@tnoutdoors9...... I was wondering if this would be a suitable home defense round. If you need another video topic .223/5.56 home defense ammo options would be awesome.
awesome review..just bought these rounds a few weeks ago..they were a bit on the high price but they look bad ass and by the looks of your review now i know the round has a nice sharp expansio..thnx again..
As a hunter myself, what was the reason for shooting the opossum? Food, rabies, defensive (as in coyotes, wild dogs) or just for fun? I suspect the latter. Don't care much for a man that shoots animals for enterainment.
ugh i want an ar-15 soooo bad but the local age to have job is 16 here in missouri >___< i got like 5 months till i can even get a job!!!! but tell me how well do you think these would work against a person (im not a psyco but my friends uncle has an ar-15 for self defence...of course we all agree a hand gun is just another way to get to a real gun (not nocking you hand gun extreamists just saying my opinion) but i also think a .223 is tomuch for home defence il stick with my hi point carbine
ugh i want an ar-15 soooo bad but the local age to have job is 16 here in missouri >___< i got like 5 months till i can even get a job!!!! but tell me how well do you think these would work against a person (im not a psyco but my friends uncle has an ar-15 for self defence...of course we all agree a hand gun is just another way to get to a real gun (not nocking you hand gun extreamists just saying my opinion)
Alright, listen up dude, that "oxide" coating you say is on the bullet is ballistic moly, it helps the bullet fly more consistent longer making it more accurate, it also comes off the bullet somewhat in the barrel and coats the crap out of it making it hard to clean. If your gonna post something be right. How often do you predator hunt anyway, you dont really know what your talking about
@sandmankid no offense but actually if you look it up its not a moly coating. it appears to be, but its not. its just some oxide coating that winchester put on the bullet for appearance. I used to think it was molly but if you touch one of winchesters and an actuall molly coated bullet you can tell the difference.
WOW. I was a bit surprised at the results. I've been researching .223 effectiveness because my fiance is interested in a bolt-action rifle, but something a bit lighter than the milsurp Soviet stuff I have around the house (recoil isn't an issue for her, but weight). She won't touch the semi-auto carbines and I don't have much experience with non com-bloc rifles. But, MAN... this shows that a .223 can be an effective round. I'm coloured impressed.
I think this is a great combat round. But not so good for someone who is intent on murdering you. If you shot a soldier with this round they would if they survivded no longer care to fight you. They also could be saved which is nice. You only want to disable a threat if possible. Some crazy drugged out people do manage to continue to fight. So this may not be a good home protection or law enforcement round. I love it for varmit and such.
@meronmotors How so? From what I read the original 55gr FMJ that was used by the military was very fast )3200ft/sec) not as stabalized with a 1in12 rotation and it was an effective man stopper as it would frag or yaw leaving very nasty damage. This round went strait, did not frag, but openned up and I would imagine shred a lot of tissue. Not saying you are wrong, I would not mind being corrected at all. What would an affective .223 look like for self defense?
@mojothemigo You are correct regaurding the fragmentation and yaw. The round tumbles frags and does some very serouis damage. This is very effective at droping an enemy to his knees. I saw a young man who was shot in the thigh by a off dutyt officer who had been drinking. This thiegh is like nothing I had ever seen before. It was about 20-24 inches wide.The swelling was so severe. They had to amputate the leg. The bone had become millions of specks of matter along with the bullet.
@mojothemigo The leg looked how Id imagine if youd stuck a m80 or somthing similiar in the leg and let it burst. I have seen gunshot wounds in the pas. This was so diffrent. The problem here is people dont die instantly as often as youd hope.They go down. Now you have 2-4 soldiers helping him move or tending his wounds.that means youve taken that many more out of the fight. I have heard many stoories from local law (Los angeles) that they will shoot a intoxicated threat and they will keep runnin
@mojothemigo They end up dieing hoever in this time they can shoot you or someone around or detonate there suicide bombs. I would prefer a 30.06 for sure intant disablement. a .308 would be good too. I am not one of those bigger is better guys at all. I love the .223 and would prefer it in 9/10 situations. A issue with the .223 hollow point is if ANYTHING is in your way even a blade of grass it bursts. If you have to shoot through a door or a thin wall it will start to frag.
@meronmotors Interesting on all your accounts. However, I would be hard pressed to use ball of any kind in a home invasion scenario. I know in war, you have to worry about shooting through barriers, in a 'with rule of law scenario' and you are confronting a badguy(s) in your home and you don't want a lot of barrier penetration, I've been told by many others round that hollow points that frag and penetrate are better man stoppers then handguns an pentrate barriers less then shotguns.
@Calum041095 The bullet rises from the barrel then drops to the point of impact it was sighted in at. @100 yards it may hit an inch high above the cross hairs, 200 yrds 0in hopefully right on the cross hairs, and say 300 yrds it may drop 1-2 inches below the crosshairs pending bullet wieght and velocity. Those arent exact numbers just estimates. other factors, especially overall skill of the shooter are important too. .223 shoots flat to 300 yrd but still has a tracjectory. hope that helps
Just got my first two deer last week in W. Tenn with 55gr Hornaday Vmax with muzzle velocity of about 3070 fps. First one was lasered at 230 yds and the second at just over 300 yds. Both hit in the lung area and each went no more than 50 ft. Did a post mortem on the second deer. The lung/heart cavity was nothing more than a bloody mush.
bottom line is 223 is a small fast round not very powerful fun to shoot i call them the superman of 22 cal. i like 7.62x39 its cheaper and hits alot harder ak ftw
.223 is legal in my state, Tennessee. I was talking to a neighbor/hunter today, and we both felt that any load with a headshot would do it. Although it could work quickly, I'm not a fan of taking a typical thoracic shot on a deer with the .223 .
No offence...but if your shooting for the head on a deer...you should sell your guns. No hunter with a bit of grey matter would shoot for the head. If you miss/clip or wound a deer in the head...your in the realms of animal cruelty.
ALWAYS aim for the kill zone behind the shoulder.
And a 5.56/.223 round...would NOT be sufficient for a clean kill.
@rockhardrs I build professionally ARs for resale, many of my clients and my self use our AR's for hunting dear The best 223 loads we use for deer in Oregon and in Alaska are loaded with the 60 grain to 70 grain Barns X bullets over 25 grains of Hodgdon Benchmark Powder .
The solid copper hollow point Barns X retains 98 to 100 % weight .
One of these Barns X bullets through the lungs is always death on deer .
For factory 223 hunting ammo you are very limited to being stuck with Varmint ammo ..
@rockhardrs forget .223, use min. of a .243 for deer. .223 can barely take out a coyote more than 200 yards. I use a 6.8, four times the energy of a .223.
@rockhardrs id go with like a Hornady match 75gr. hollow point and its all about shot placement you have to make sure you put the shot right were it needs to be and the .223 will bring a deer down with no problem
yeah opossum's are weird animals for sure i used my 870, 18 inch barrel cylinder choke on one with 000 buck and that thing did two complete flips and got up and continued walking about two hundred feet before it finally died i don't get it
@Roflzmahwoflz My bro and i have a video up where we go hunting. He nailed a possum in the head with a 22 mag revolver, thing was kicking around, and the 12 gauge made quick work of it after that. But I'll be damned if that mag didn't anchor it LOL that thing was done before it died basically lol. Here's the link: /watch?v=Wycj-OjXwOM
@Roflzmahwoflz thats the nerves for you, we shot a deer in the head and it just about kicked out our back window in the truck 45 min after we shot it.
yeah man, i unloaded a .22 revolver into a sick one one time, and that think rolled around and kicked forever. finally i unloaded another cylinder into it and it stopped.
What a great video, well thought out and completed, I have a new found respect the the 223 Remington round when loaded with Winchester Ballistic Silvertip.ammo.
would this round be good for hunting mule deer and hogs????? right now im shooting some cheap FMJ ammo made buy some russian brand i switched because winchester stopped makin my fav bullet soooo
@MrMdr96 I would use something a little bigger like a 30-06 but as we all know a well placed round is key. I have killed many hogs and white tail deer with a 30-06 using winchester silver tip 168 grain
i have the same gun and i can say i feel it is the best gun around. anyone who says otherwise, i dont care to know so dont reply to this if you dont have anything good to say, i dont care!
well that's interesting, obviously a bit tougher than the likes of the V-max...Keep these .223 ammo reviews coming!- what about a small deer hunting load?- thinking along the lines of federal 60gn Nosler partition.....
@danebrewer10 I shot 2 deer last night with these 180m out dropped them dead in there track this is a devastating round went rite threw them and just stop short of exiting and the round mushroomed as good as this in the video. i shot one threw the spin and turned the bone to pulp and the bullet did not fragment i took some photos of the deers skun the bruising was mad
@Brookssteff oh I have no doubt that a .223 will dish the dirt on even fairly large deer well, but I'd probably use it for deer up to and including roe deer, which stand mid thigh height, anything larger like fallow, which I are a bit bigger, abouth a smaller whitetail I think, depending on where you live, I'd opt for something bigger like a .243, .308 or 6.5, I guess you use what you have, and with a good solid bullet you can go far, but for me, I would have issues about
@Brookssteff shooting an animal with something that would give marginal performance if shot placement was not %100, for shooting the odd deer now and again, then I'd imagine it's ok, but for serious deer culling, like I say, personally I'd want something with a bit more clout it's like that fact that I have retired my airgun to shooting pigeons in barns and squirrels out of trees, as I feel that the 17 HMR does a far better job on rabbits with almost no chance of wounding and the animal escaping
Your videos are entertaining & informative without too much of either. I've enjoyed blowing apart milk jugs for years & like your spin on making an interesting impact zone. I like the Prvi Partizan .223 75gr BTHP for it's decent accuracy & price. But my wifes RRA LAR-15 & my POF P-415 will also do well with Brown or Silver Bear steel fodder. AIM Surplus has good prices on Prvi .223 69gr BTHP. I don't shoot too much of the Hornady or Black Hills stuff as much lately due to the outrageous prices.
@tnoutdoors9 I have tried this in the past with subsonic hollowpoint .22LR, and it, surprisingly mushroomed the bullet as you might expect from flesh, the sand was dry and very fine, more like sand you find on the beach, fine white sand I forget what it's properly called...
@tnoutdoors9 , doesnt matter. i shot a .30-06 fmj into a coffee can full of sand and it stopped. wet might work more for ur .223 since it's faster. try both. all i can say without testing it myself with a .223,
My penis would stop that bullet. @noisemostbeautiful i didnt see this till i got into my inbox, this is my account but due to registration issues on other computers in the house, im not the only one to use it. I deleted the comment and will say i absolutely respect and utilize the right and many others men before me have fought and died for. As for this round being good for human yotes, i think its a no brainer.
how exactly did you make those jugs? fill em up with newspaper then fill it up with water? and how long did they sit before you shot them? i want to try it with 7.62x39 jhp
This might be a bit much, but is there any reason to think this wouldn't make a good round for those human coyotes? You know, the kind that skulk around and try to come on the property and take and eat things that arn't theirs. Thanks. Looks like a good round for a defensive carbine. Recomended for an A4?
AmAce, I'm neither kid nor cowboy. I've been (touching?) carrying firearms for years on duty in service and have defended both myself and third partys against armed criminals. One must be a bit pre-emptive as you put when you engage in such serious actions as I have. I assure you sir, you'd have a hard time finding anyone more safe with firearms than myself. There are many among us who would freely and easily hurt you and your family, do not be deceived, I've seen too much evidence of this!
@MrAmericanAce what is your stance on the right to bear arms? Are you pro Brady Bill? Do you believe we have the right to self defense? I don't assume these privilidges are given, but so many good men have had to die to earn these priv. that I have a hard time taking it for granted as so many do. It gives me pause, as it should everyone. Even if you are a hunter or plinker...otherwise why would you be watching this video, those same men have afforded your simple hobby. A bit of thanks? -N
I guess shooters like this load, know I do. I try to keep a few boxes (and mags) of this around. And it's easy to find....Bass Pro usually has it, and think I saw some at WalMart. Nothing better than availability of good ammo.....at a decent price.
More .223 ballistic tip tests planned....they are fun.
I have seen them bigger then that in the past. It depends on how good the corn crops are, and how much rain fall's. It seems the rainfall makes a big difference on the amounts of game size also.They last few years they have been smaller overall.Coyote's are getting crazy thick,and many County's are placing bounty's on them.There doing so much livestock damage .
Great shot and test of that round .Looks to be a great all around varmints load. Even the 30 to 45 # groundhogs in the NE TN Tri state areas. I thought it would have completely fragment. But it's good to see that it did not.Could have something to do with the setup you shot it trough. Who knows ? Another great video.Thanks..
Mark III 4.5 x 14.5 50mm objective lens....I think that is correct...working from memory. It is at least 4 years old....never fogged, always clear, and does well in lower-light conditions.
I love how the second top comment has 0 likes.
DantheAuthor 2 months ago
Great vid - you prefer the Bushmaster Varmitter or Ruger mini 14?
spiritartman 2 months ago
porque no el 243 no se seria un mejor tiro y mas sertero
marcos99828 2 months ago
great bullet i use this for elk hunting!
AmazingZombieWeapons 2 months ago
what kind of "ballistic test " is that ? lol
BarthelemyLesaint 2 months ago
@tnoutdoors9...... I was wondering if this would be a suitable home defense round. If you need another video topic .223/5.56 home defense ammo options would be awesome.
jimbosa85 2 months ago
i bought a pack of those these are really tough but expensive
Donaldjames1234 3 months ago
awesome review..just bought these rounds a few weeks ago..they were a bit on the high price but they look bad ass and by the looks of your review now i know the round has a nice sharp expansio..thnx again..
Titan9mm 4 months ago
These bullets are not lead, right?
fermin94 5 months ago
what would be a good rifle for deer hunting overall?
plach16 5 months ago
@plach16 Any rifle chambered in .308, if you are just using it for deer hunting then buy a bolt action, it shoots more accuracy.
pac6010 3 months ago
Wow, that is a VERY nice rifle. How much did the full setup cost?
joslinnick 5 months ago
As a hunter myself, what was the reason for shooting the opossum? Food, rabies, defensive (as in coyotes, wild dogs) or just for fun? I suspect the latter. Don't care much for a man that shoots animals for enterainment.
WESTover7740 6 months ago
woho! TN! Apparently we are known as the patron state of shooting stuff! where do you live man? i live in Dickson County.
CoD0general 7 months ago
what kind of bipod is that?
imgone23 7 months ago
Hey on what distance did you mesure that 3200-3300fps bullet ?
Tom
street58cars 7 months ago
ugh i want an ar-15 soooo bad but the local age to have job is 16 here in missouri >___< i got like 5 months till i can even get a job!!!! but tell me how well do you think these would work against a person (im not a psyco but my friends uncle has an ar-15 for self defence...of course we all agree a hand gun is just another way to get to a real gun (not nocking you hand gun extreamists just saying my opinion) but i also think a .223 is tomuch for home defence il stick with my hi point carbine
blazeclicker 7 months ago
ugh i want an ar-15 soooo bad but the local age to have job is 16 here in missouri >___< i got like 5 months till i can even get a job!!!! but tell me how well do you think these would work against a person (im not a psyco but my friends uncle has an ar-15 for self defence...of course we all agree a hand gun is just another way to get to a real gun (not nocking you hand gun extreamists just saying my opinion)
blazeclicker 7 months ago
how much for a bolt action .223
TheProPilot100 8 months ago
If you want this rifle you need to ask for bushmaster's VARMINT SPECIAL ( stainless
barrel ) the "varminter" gets you a differant barrel!.......
larrysquared 9 months ago
awesome vid. i totally need to make a few of those jugs for the next time i go shooting
cibolodave 9 months ago
.223 with FMJ / Slow expanding bullet is actually pretty good for bagging roe deers here in arctic circle :) It works just fine.
Morrimoo 10 months ago
Alright, listen up dude, that "oxide" coating you say is on the bullet is ballistic moly, it helps the bullet fly more consistent longer making it more accurate, it also comes off the bullet somewhat in the barrel and coats the crap out of it making it hard to clean. If your gonna post something be right. How often do you predator hunt anyway, you dont really know what your talking about
sandmankid 10 months ago
@sandmankid no offense but actually if you look it up its not a moly coating. it appears to be, but its not. its just some oxide coating that winchester put on the bullet for appearance. I used to think it was molly but if you touch one of winchesters and an actuall molly coated bullet you can tell the difference.
bkershner13 9 months ago
how many guns in total do you own??
Pageyindahouse 10 months ago
I use the 35grain ballistic silvertip . 3800fps its nasty. anybody do a test on it on ballistic gel yet????
redman12143 11 months ago
WOW. I was a bit surprised at the results. I've been researching .223 effectiveness because my fiance is interested in a bolt-action rifle, but something a bit lighter than the milsurp Soviet stuff I have around the house (recoil isn't an issue for her, but weight). She won't touch the semi-auto carbines and I don't have much experience with non com-bloc rifles. But, MAN... this shows that a .223 can be an effective round. I'm coloured impressed.
neothespian 11 months ago
@neothespian If you liked this, you might want to take a look at a 22-250. Really fast & flat shooting! Not a hard kick.
jimfberry 11 months ago
I think this is a great combat round. But not so good for someone who is intent on murdering you. If you shot a soldier with this round they would if they survivded no longer care to fight you. They also could be saved which is nice. You only want to disable a threat if possible. Some crazy drugged out people do manage to continue to fight. So this may not be a good home protection or law enforcement round. I love it for varmit and such.
meronmotors 11 months ago
@meronmotors How so? From what I read the original 55gr FMJ that was used by the military was very fast )3200ft/sec) not as stabalized with a 1in12 rotation and it was an effective man stopper as it would frag or yaw leaving very nasty damage. This round went strait, did not frag, but openned up and I would imagine shred a lot of tissue. Not saying you are wrong, I would not mind being corrected at all. What would an affective .223 look like for self defense?
mojothemigo 10 months ago
@mojothemigo You are correct regaurding the fragmentation and yaw. The round tumbles frags and does some very serouis damage. This is very effective at droping an enemy to his knees. I saw a young man who was shot in the thigh by a off dutyt officer who had been drinking. This thiegh is like nothing I had ever seen before. It was about 20-24 inches wide.The swelling was so severe. They had to amputate the leg. The bone had become millions of specks of matter along with the bullet.
meronmotors 10 months ago
@mojothemigo The leg looked how Id imagine if youd stuck a m80 or somthing similiar in the leg and let it burst. I have seen gunshot wounds in the pas. This was so diffrent. The problem here is people dont die instantly as often as youd hope.They go down. Now you have 2-4 soldiers helping him move or tending his wounds.that means youve taken that many more out of the fight. I have heard many stoories from local law (Los angeles) that they will shoot a intoxicated threat and they will keep runnin
meronmotors 10 months ago
@mojothemigo They end up dieing hoever in this time they can shoot you or someone around or detonate there suicide bombs. I would prefer a 30.06 for sure intant disablement. a .308 would be good too. I am not one of those bigger is better guys at all. I love the .223 and would prefer it in 9/10 situations. A issue with the .223 hollow point is if ANYTHING is in your way even a blade of grass it bursts. If you have to shoot through a door or a thin wall it will start to frag.
meronmotors 10 months ago
@meronmotors Interesting on all your accounts. However, I would be hard pressed to use ball of any kind in a home invasion scenario. I know in war, you have to worry about shooting through barriers, in a 'with rule of law scenario' and you are confronting a badguy(s) in your home and you don't want a lot of barrier penetration, I've been told by many others round that hollow points that frag and penetrate are better man stoppers then handguns an pentrate barriers less then shotguns.
mojothemigo 10 months ago
Yeah. That'll knock the sense into, and out of, back into, and back out of a coyote.... for sure... and a bi-pedal species if u got the money lol.
SupremeAmerican 11 months ago
Nice info and test for that round. Looks like it will give a nice, immediate expansion and provide a neat wound cavity for a clean kill.
Thank TN
ocjuiceman24 1 year ago
greetings from Spring Hill!
aekdbbop 1 year ago
Easily it can kill a deer. The right bullet and placement are key. Head/high neck shots are best. Nice vid!
ljalaska 1 year ago
balistic tip rounds explode wen they hit bone i dont think th plastic and wet paper had enough densitity
vlcjet 1 year ago
so where exactly were you aiming on the target, im just a little confused on it going high at 100 when sighted to 200
Calum041095 1 year ago
@Calum041095 The bullet rises from the barrel then drops to the point of impact it was sighted in at. @100 yards it may hit an inch high above the cross hairs, 200 yrds 0in hopefully right on the cross hairs, and say 300 yrds it may drop 1-2 inches below the crosshairs pending bullet wieght and velocity. Those arent exact numbers just estimates. other factors, especially overall skill of the shooter are important too. .223 shoots flat to 300 yrd but still has a tracjectory. hope that helps
ThatDudeSirraj 11 months ago
The Silvertips are devestating rounds as you can see in this video. Very bad for about anything yoiu hit with it. Great video !
TheRaulr151 1 year ago
Just got my first two deer last week in W. Tenn with 55gr Hornaday Vmax with muzzle velocity of about 3070 fps. First one was lasered at 230 yds and the second at just over 300 yds. Both hit in the lung area and each went no more than 50 ft. Did a post mortem on the second deer. The lung/heart cavity was nothing more than a bloody mush.
moosefisherman 1 year ago
Greetings from Nashville =)
Ducanasty 1 year ago
deer beware also
kcman011 1 year ago
ballistic silvertip- if you hit an animal in ribs mainly- any part it crushes everything in it
awesomeberri 1 year ago
bottom line is 223 is a small fast round not very powerful fun to shoot i call them the superman of 22 cal. i like 7.62x39 its cheaper and hits alot harder ak ftw
trigun890 1 year ago
@trigun890 its not even close to the superman of the 22 calibers. its maybe a tweety bird. Look into the 220 swift and 22-250.
123abcownz 1 year ago
Great for hunting and great accuracy to hunt deers from a distance.
strategistmmo 1 year ago
Good stuff!!
Aussie038 1 year ago
what would be a good round to hunt whitetail deer with in 223?
rockhardrs 1 year ago 3
@rockhardrs
.223 is legal in my state, Tennessee. I was talking to a neighbor/hunter today, and we both felt that any load with a headshot would do it. Although it could work quickly, I'm not a fan of taking a typical thoracic shot on a deer with the .223 .
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
@tnoutdoors9 if you are talking about EXTREME close range self defence and if a .223 is all you have, I like the M193 ball
meronmotors 10 months ago
@tnoutdoors9 .223 is for small varmit hunting only, not for deer. It's a .22, enough said.
DRAGOONSPANDORA75 10 months ago
@DRAGOONSPANDORA75 Get hit in the thigh with one and you would surely change your mind, I'd bet you have no experience with one anyway.
Many terrorists have fallen to the round with FMJ bullets, if they were using bullets like these over there it would be even better.
TEHLEGITGUY 10 months ago
@tnoutdoors9 i got a 6 point buck this year in mi with .223 55 grain. droped right in its tracks.
DarkDkOfFire 9 months ago
@tnoutdoors9
No offence...but if your shooting for the head on a deer...you should sell your guns. No hunter with a bit of grey matter would shoot for the head. If you miss/clip or wound a deer in the head...your in the realms of animal cruelty.
ALWAYS aim for the kill zone behind the shoulder.
And a 5.56/.223 round...would NOT be sufficient for a clean kill.
TheRockomb 6 months ago
@tnoutdoors9 where did you get the grip on the varminter?
MrShortstop33 5 months ago
i had great sucess with 75grain hollow piont
jennalla 1 year ago
@rockhardrs if u are a good enough shot u can kill a deer with any gun
dog33100 1 year ago
@rockhardrs I build professionally ARs for resale, many of my clients and my self use our AR's for hunting dear The best 223 loads we use for deer in Oregon and in Alaska are loaded with the 60 grain to 70 grain Barns X bullets over 25 grains of Hodgdon Benchmark Powder .
The solid copper hollow point Barns X retains 98 to 100 % weight .
One of these Barns X bullets through the lungs is always death on deer .
For factory 223 hunting ammo you are very limited to being stuck with Varmint ammo ..
Moldovawineimporter 11 months ago
@rockhardrs try find TMJ rounds if you can or Non-lead bullets, That is if your gonna eat the deer
Umimugo 11 months ago
@rockhardrs forget .223, use min. of a .243 for deer. .223 can barely take out a coyote more than 200 yards. I use a 6.8, four times the energy of a .223.
DRAGOONSPANDORA75 10 months ago
@rockhardrs id go with like a Hornady match 75gr. hollow point and its all about shot placement you have to make sure you put the shot right were it needs to be and the .223 will bring a deer down with no problem
PAOUTDOORSTV 6 months ago
that be a good bullet for deer hunting
1hunterdale 1 year ago
full fucking metal jacket....
lachlanSB 1 year ago
i shot a doe with my .223 super shot mag and it look like someone took a saw to the heart and lungs
deerslayer199102 1 year ago
i shot i a doe with my .223 ballistic tip and when i my dad and i gutted it.it look like someone took a saw to the lungs and heart
deerslayer199102 1 year ago
any value in the silver in them bullets ? like a walking liberty coin?
gasdorf 1 year ago
whats the fps on these rounds
bobiscool308 1 year ago
who disliked this video
bobiscool308 1 year ago
I shot a possum 4 times in the head with a .22 and it was still kicking for 1minute. Creepy.
Roflzmahwoflz 1 year ago 12
@Roflzmahwoflz
Those things are tough..... .22 or even 12 gauge.
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago 13
@tnoutdoors9 check the comment reply to roflzmahwoflz LOL
SupremeAmerican 11 months ago
@tnoutdoors9 i saw a rifle exactly like that with the stainless barrel. that monster is heavy to lug around...(for an AR15 i mean :P )
joshkkv 9 months ago
@tnoutdoors9 recoioal wise what gauge of shot gun would resemble the kick of a 223
xXGMonsterXx9 5 months ago
@tnoutdoors9
yeah opossum's are weird animals for sure i used my 870, 18 inch barrel cylinder choke on one with 000 buck and that thing did two complete flips and got up and continued walking about two hundred feet before it finally died i don't get it
tubevideoguy762 3 months ago
@Roflzmahwoflz My bro and i have a video up where we go hunting. He nailed a possum in the head with a 22 mag revolver, thing was kicking around, and the 12 gauge made quick work of it after that. But I'll be damned if that mag didn't anchor it LOL that thing was done before it died basically lol. Here's the link: /watch?v=Wycj-OjXwOM
SupremeAmerican 11 months ago
@Roflzmahwoflz nerves?, or was it still alive?
benchmstr 11 months ago
@Roflzmahwoflz thats the nerves for you, we shot a deer in the head and it just about kicked out our back window in the truck 45 min after we shot it.
SneakyGoomba 9 months ago
@Roflzmahwoflz haha :) i shot a fox in the head twice with a .22 using hollow points and it was still kicking, creepy shit.
TheZooEscapee 8 months ago
@Roflzmahwoflz with nerves or life?
awesomeabsol 8 months ago
@Roflzmahwoflz
yeah man, i unloaded a .22 revolver into a sick one one time, and that think rolled around and kicked forever. finally i unloaded another cylinder into it and it stopped.
kingofthe40oz 6 months ago
haha i thought it is .22 but that BOOOM xD
MachineFight 1 year ago
I want that weapon!
escueladeleyi 1 year ago
Oct 2010 - I'll be doing a full review of this rifle sooner than later.
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
What a great video, well thought out and completed, I have a new found respect the the 223 Remington round when loaded with Winchester Ballistic Silvertip.ammo.
Well Done!
2at017 1 year ago
we have the same sawhorses as you lol
BigCatTheJew 1 year ago
no handloading ??
ferretinpro 1 year ago
I like your video...however you don't seem to know the rifle you are shooting
is not a varminter but is a bushmaster varmint special (stainless barrel)
the varminter has a 4150 barrel.
larrysquared 1 year ago
@larrysquared
It is technically a Varmint Stainless Special, but still a Varminter.
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
@tnoutdoors9 Checked Bushmaster's web site and in the product description
they never once used the word " Varminter " . I have one of these and love it. So
far the best 5 shot group was ~ 5/8" @ 100 yards ( umc fmj oddly enough ).
larrysquared 1 year ago
what kind of grip is that
untame8 1 year ago
i found these in my local gun store in australia. Great and accurate in my tikka t3 .223
drummerlars 1 year ago
do these expand good?
TheAirsoftmaster3 1 year ago
@TheAirsoftmaster3
They essentially explode in a soft target, so I guess you could call that expansion!
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago 3
@tnoutdoors9 how much
uogf 10 months ago
@TheAirsoftmaster3 you see that at the end, tard. watch the video again.
123abcownz 1 year ago
that's a great video, ive been looking into getting a .223 savage!
CHOSENMARINE 1 year ago
Tn, Is u`r gun The Bushmaster Stainless Varmint Special ?
lisapizza8 1 year ago
I am guessing this round would pass completely through a person at 100 yards? I don't know alot about long range penetration of living targets.
6117240 1 year ago
would this round be good for hunting mule deer and hogs????? right now im shooting some cheap FMJ ammo made buy some russian brand i switched because winchester stopped makin my fav bullet soooo
MrMdr96 1 year ago
@MrMdr96
Just my opinion, but I don't think you would have sufficient penetration, in particular on hogs. Lots of heavy mass on those critters.
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
@MrMdr96 I would use something a little bigger like a 30-06 but as we all know a well placed round is key. I have killed many hogs and white tail deer with a 30-06 using winchester silver tip 168 grain
kalzx 1 year ago
wash your hands after handling lead!
succawal 1 year ago
@succawal
I always carry soap and water in SUV, paper towels, etc.
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
i have a question, y was my comment earlier removed? just wondering, cant remember wat i said.
747pro 1 year ago
@747pro
Not that I'm aware. I rarely remove comments. Feel free to repost.....
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
can you get the same rounds for a .223 WSSM as i got one myself
TheGervarod 1 year ago
wow nice gun
TheJewWrangler 1 year ago
i have the same gun and i can say i feel it is the best gun around. anyone who says otherwise, i dont care to know so dont reply to this if you dont have anything good to say, i dont care!
ionmanpaintball 1 year ago
that is beautiful. That would be pefect for javelina and coyotes
TGLymantaiste 1 year ago
Good job man. i'm very surprised that bullet didn't disintegrate. Like your idia of newspaper jugs.
toxa84 1 year ago
Very very good video!
wizdumbb 1 year ago
well that's interesting, obviously a bit tougher than the likes of the V-max...Keep these .223 ammo reviews coming!- what about a small deer hunting load?- thinking along the lines of federal 60gn Nosler partition.....
Cheers
danebrewer10 1 year ago
@danebrewer10 I shot 2 deer last night with these 180m out dropped them dead in there track this is a devastating round went rite threw them and just stop short of exiting and the round mushroomed as good as this in the video. i shot one threw the spin and turned the bone to pulp and the bullet did not fragment i took some photos of the deers skun the bruising was mad
Brookssteff 1 year ago
@danebrewer10 This is the pictures of one of these hitting a deer watch?v=DTNvjCUZ29E
id have no hesitation shooting a large deer in the heart with this round it holds together and mushrooms nicely even after passing threw bone
Brookssteff 1 year ago
@Brookssteff oh I have no doubt that a .223 will dish the dirt on even fairly large deer well, but I'd probably use it for deer up to and including roe deer, which stand mid thigh height, anything larger like fallow, which I are a bit bigger, abouth a smaller whitetail I think, depending on where you live, I'd opt for something bigger like a .243, .308 or 6.5, I guess you use what you have, and with a good solid bullet you can go far, but for me, I would have issues about
danebrewer10 1 year ago
@Brookssteff shooting an animal with something that would give marginal performance if shot placement was not %100, for shooting the odd deer now and again, then I'd imagine it's ok, but for serious deer culling, like I say, personally I'd want something with a bit more clout it's like that fact that I have retired my airgun to shooting pigeons in barns and squirrels out of trees, as I feel that the 17 HMR does a far better job on rabbits with almost no chance of wounding and the animal escaping
danebrewer10 1 year ago
I would like to have a rifle like that one.
Frankyboy1177 1 year ago
Your videos are entertaining & informative without too much of either. I've enjoyed blowing apart milk jugs for years & like your spin on making an interesting impact zone. I like the Prvi Partizan .223 75gr BTHP for it's decent accuracy & price. But my wifes RRA LAR-15 & my POF P-415 will also do well with Brown or Silver Bear steel fodder. AIM Surplus has good prices on Prvi .223 69gr BTHP. I don't shoot too much of the Hornady or Black Hills stuff as much lately due to the outrageous prices.
paomtep 1 year ago
good video, good work!
malignantpoodle 1 year ago
it's fun to fill them full of sand.
747pro 1 year ago
@747pro
Now there's an idea....wet or dry?
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
@tnoutdoors9 I have tried this in the past with subsonic hollowpoint .22LR, and it, surprisingly mushroomed the bullet as you might expect from flesh, the sand was dry and very fine, more like sand you find on the beach, fine white sand I forget what it's properly called...
danebrewer10 1 year ago
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747pro 1 year ago
@tnoutdoors9
Both :D
dahgutone 1 year ago
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@tnoutdoors9
Both :D
dahgutone 1 year ago
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@tnoutdoors9 , doesnt matter. i shot a .30-06 fmj into a coffee can full of sand and it stopped. wet might work more for ur .223 since it's faster. try both. all i can say without testing it myself with a .223,
747pro 1 year ago
@747pro wow good idea!
lexmark136 1 year ago
Great test !
gragrn 1 year ago
My penis would stop that bullet. @noisemostbeautiful i didnt see this till i got into my inbox, this is my account but due to registration issues on other computers in the house, im not the only one to use it. I deleted the comment and will say i absolutely respect and utilize the right and many others men before me have fought and died for. As for this round being good for human yotes, i think its a no brainer.
MrAmericanAce 1 year ago
how exactly did you make those jugs? fill em up with newspaper then fill it up with water? and how long did they sit before you shot them? i want to try it with 7.62x39 jhp
akshooter762 1 year ago
@akshooter762 I would also like to see some AK-47 rounds tested that would be awesome.
Dietzeeeee 1 year ago
@ akshooter762
I'll send you the recipe, but I'm also going to post it in the context of a video description soon.
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
@tnoutdoors9
Can you send me a recipe too because i do something very similar to this but yours seem much more compact.
Thanx
hunterwr69 1 year ago
this bullet looks like a kind to kill vampires lols
SuperDwang 1 year ago 18
@SuperDwang It is for killing vampires and zombies too :)
zx2kain 1 year ago
@zx2kain lol indeed and for wannabe vampire xD
SuperDwang 1 year ago
This might be a bit much, but is there any reason to think this wouldn't make a good round for those human coyotes? You know, the kind that skulk around and try to come on the property and take and eat things that arn't theirs. Thanks. Looks like a good round for a defensive carbine. Recomended for an A4?
NoiseMostBeautiful 1 year ago
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MrAmericanAce 1 year ago
AmAce, I'm neither kid nor cowboy. I've been (touching?) carrying firearms for years on duty in service and have defended both myself and third partys against armed criminals. One must be a bit pre-emptive as you put when you engage in such serious actions as I have. I assure you sir, you'd have a hard time finding anyone more safe with firearms than myself. There are many among us who would freely and easily hurt you and your family, do not be deceived, I've seen too much evidence of this!
NoiseMostBeautiful 1 year ago
@MrAmericanAce what is your stance on the right to bear arms? Are you pro Brady Bill? Do you believe we have the right to self defense? I don't assume these privilidges are given, but so many good men have had to die to earn these priv. that I have a hard time taking it for granted as so many do. It gives me pause, as it should everyone. Even if you are a hunter or plinker...otherwise why would you be watching this video, those same men have afforded your simple hobby. A bit of thanks? -N
NoiseMostBeautiful 1 year ago
i think i better some of these for my rem 700!!!
karllevin1 2 years ago
@ karllevin1
I was stalking the ammo selection at a Nashville WalMart last week and they actually had this on the shelf.
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
great now im 99.99999999 % sure im getting it
camelkiller22 2 years ago
i love the hole rifle TN. except the buldge at the end of the grip. can u take that off..
camelkiller22 2 years ago
@ camelkiller22
Yes, the bottom of the grip can be removed. Mine came with the rifle that way.
tnoutdoors9 2 years ago
wow interesting results! good penetration and the bullet staying relatively intact. very cool
SAXD45ACP 2 years ago
nice..
hunterman505 2 years ago
What is the barrel length and twist rate on that rifle?
Try buying some of that kitty litter made from recycled newspapers and fill your milk jugs with that (and water) sometime.
spacemanspiff2012 2 years ago
@spacemanspiff2012
22 inches and 1 in 9 I believe
gksk8monk 2 years ago
24" and 1 to 9
tnoutdoors9 2 years ago
I will test some V-MAX early 2010.
tnoutdoors9 2 years ago
@tnoutdoors9 can u coyote hunt with a mossberg 270
TheBighen30 2 years ago
I don't see why not. The caiber is legal here.
tnoutdoors9 2 years ago
alright because thats wat i killed my first coyote with.
TheBighen30 2 years ago
@TheBighen30 im pretty sure you can hunt with it, it's way more powerful than a .223
akshooter762 1 year ago
@akshooter762 ok thanks yea there nice guns for there price
TheBighen30 1 year ago
Interesting. I would not have thought that the bullet would stay intact.
ReDact45 2 years ago
i shoot this out of my browning in .223 wssm it 4200fps it great.
qintan0008 2 years ago
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Pr3dat0r5000 2 years ago
I guess shooters like this load, know I do. I try to keep a few boxes (and mags) of this around. And it's easy to find....Bass Pro usually has it, and think I saw some at WalMart. Nothing better than availability of good ammo.....at a decent price.
More .223 ballistic tip tests planned....they are fun.
tnoutdoors9 2 years ago
nice shot! 5/5
HITMANMONSTER 2 years ago
nice video
tripmatt1 2 years ago
Fantastic video! Keep up the good work.
VitosBlaster 2 years ago
Great test ! 5 stars
zeno57 2 years ago
I have seen them bigger then that in the past. It depends on how good the corn crops are, and how much rain fall's. It seems the rainfall makes a big difference on the amounts of game size also.They last few years they have been smaller overall.Coyote's are getting crazy thick,and many County's are placing bounty's on them.There doing so much livestock damage .
ylism 2 years ago
Great shot and test of that round .Looks to be a great all around varmints load. Even the 30 to 45 # groundhogs in the NE TN Tri state areas. I thought it would have completely fragment. But it's good to see that it did not.Could have something to do with the setup you shot it trough. Who knows ? Another great video.Thanks..
ylism 2 years ago
You have 45 lb. groundhogs? Good grief, I would be having a field day.
tnoutdoors9 2 years ago
would the ballistic silvertips be good for defense as well?
MrShotgunjim 2 years ago
It would probably do OK on someone up to 100 yards, possibly 200. For the house AR magazine, I stuff it with 55gr NATO.
tnoutdoors9 2 years ago
Thanks.
MrShotgunjim 2 years ago
great video. i was expecting the bullet to completely fragment.
cnknguyen 2 years ago
I have stopped deer dead in their tracks with this exact load in .223 and 115gr in .25-06. The Winchester ballistic silvertip ammo is devastating..
shihulud1982 2 years ago
What leupold model scope do you have?
ohiodeerhunter21 2 years ago
Mark III 4.5 x 14.5 50mm objective lens....I think that is correct...working from memory. It is at least 4 years old....never fogged, always clear, and does well in lower-light conditions.
tnoutdoors9 2 years ago
I shoot the same bullets in my 22-250 coyote slayer......fast, flat, and deadly!
yotedown09 2 years ago
Do they make this same bushmaster AR in .204 ruger.
Velocity4000fps 2 years ago