A look a Georgia's new gun law, interveiw with Ray McBerry Part 1

[skipwadoo]

When will politicians realize that thugs don't care about laws. Politicians fail to grasp the reasoning that bad guy's will care firearms anywhere they want to carry. This leaves the honest ccw person defenseless in those areas. A sign saying no weapons allowed on premises outside a door of a business is no more than a door stop to a criminal that intends to do warm. Wise up people !

[KevinJayCash]

All supporters of gun control (thus traitors against the Constitution) need to be held responsible from all of the deaths associated with people killed by the criminals that will always own guns.

Militias are what keep the government in "check" and help to prevent tyranny. Take away the guns and all are at risk.

Anti-gun lobbyist are essentially traitors to this country, and should be ex-communicated from society since they desire for it to be at risk. They are the true enemy of the USA.

[1982field]

WTF

[danieldefenseM4]

Georgia may not have the BEST gun laws in the country, but we do have have a lot more rights than other states. Quit complaining. We have no restrictions on what we can own, we have shall-issue GWL permits, ect. We are a lot better off that most places.

[freatork1]

Narative: "When the Founding Fathers wrote the.. Second Amendment, it was very, very important that they established it was allowed for regular citizens to own guns."

THAT'S not what they wrote, although it would have been easy for them to have done so if that's what they intended.

In the debate on the wording of this amendment in the First Congress, there isn't the slightest hint that they're discussing the ownership of guns. It's a militia amendment, not a guns amendment.

[stevenjaeger69]

Please read the Judgement in Columbia vs. Heller. This debate is over.

[freatork1]

@stevenjaeger6

Original draft: "but no person religiously scrupulous shall be compelled to bear arms."

From the debate in the First Congress: Mr. Gerry: "Now, if we give a discretionary power to exclude those from militia duty..."

This shows us that, TO THEM, "bear arms" was "militia duty."

It was also sugested that ""upon paying an equivalent, to be established by law" should be added to the end. You don't pay to be excused from exercising a personal right to carry guns.

[XNMR53]

@freatork1 ""but no person religiously scrupulous shall be compelled to bear arms."

Evidently the ignorant limey trash is ignoring the word "keep".

What I don't understand is where he gets the inflated idea that anyone outside of his little island litter box has any interest at all in his worthless opinions.

[freatork1]

@XNMR53 "Evidently the ignorant limey trash is ignoring the word "keep"".

You're ignoring EVERYTHING that I've said.

If the right to "bear arms" isn't personal (which I've shown), why do you think that "keep" means "personally own?" I mean, in the AoC, every STATE was required to "keep" a sufficient quantity of arms in public stores.

[XNMR53]

@freatork1 "You're ignoring EVERYTHING that I've said."

Why shouldn't I ignore an ignorant limey maggot?

Let me put it a little more bluntly.

STFU, eurovermin. Mind your own damned business.

[freatork1]

@XNMR53 "STFU"

Original draft: "compelled to BEAR ARMS."

Next draft: "compelled to render MILITARY SERVICE in person."

The words "in person" show us that the right protected is a collective right of "the people," but certain individuals wouldn't be forced to participate in the exercise of the right "in person."

[freatork1]

"the right of the people.... but no person...."

Why didn't they also use the word "people" when excempting certain INDIVIDUALS? Because the "people" wasn't a suitable term to refer to individuals. The right protected is NOT for individuals.

[XNMR53]

@freatork1 More bullshit from irrelevant foreign trash who really needs a tire iron laid across hit teeth to remind him to mind his own damned affairs.

Couldn't the Irish teach you scum that, either?

[freatork1]

@XNMR53 "bullshit"

Explain WHY it's bullshit. If you can't, it's fact.

[freatork1]

@XNMR53 "foreign trash..."

Let's put it this way: Unlike you, I've not been brainwashed into believing that I've borne arms for simply picking up a gun. This is a fairly recent distortion all to do with selling guns.

[freatork1]

Maryland, Acts of 1715: "That no negro or other slave within this province shall be permitted to CARRY any GUN..."

Maryland, 1806. "...and in case any free negro or mulatto shall be seen going at large CARRYING a GUN..."

Delaware, 1791: "That if any Negro or Mulatto slave presume to CARRY any GUNS.."

Why isn't the phrase "bear arms" being used in these acts? Because "bear arms" is a military expression and these acts have no military context.

[Revbone450]

At least you're not in California

[monsterman27]

alcahol shouldnt be a part of the decision because alchahl isnt a right guns are. Get rid of the alcahol

[isamtator]

I thought Georgia gun laws, was fine. I thought we had great laws.

[luattlebaum]

waste of time hillbilly shit

[SniperSurkov]

no your guns should be in your house

not with you in public

[etucker5007]

@SniperSurkov you really don't get America

[eatmyjeep]

RON PAUL 2012

[JaxxBat]

@eatmyjeep .. Ron Paul in 2012..

[MrChindow]

@eatmyjeep YOU DAMN RIGHT RON PAUL 2012!! HE IS AMERICAS ONLY HOPE!!!

[michaelscreen]

If only you Americans would get so passionate about healthcare provision, quality education, social mobillity etc. Some US states have higher infant mortality rates than some African countries. However, what can you expect from a nation that spends two and half times as much money on porn than foreign aid. Finally, do you have to be a US ciizen to join the N.R.A?

[etucker5007]

@michaelscreen Premature deliveries account for over half of infant deaths in America. America delivers many thousands of premature babies that would be left for dead in almost any other country. We have better technology and are able to save about half of premature babies. Those same babies would die and NOT BE COUNTED AGAINST THE INFANT MORTALITY RATE in any other country. You are also assuming that African countries keep good records like the US does, but they don't.

[greenvaepor]

@michaelscreen If only you foreigners would mind your own business (not that the American government does, but I digress). Let us worry about stuff that doesn't matter, you worry abut your king or dictator robbing you blind. If you want foreign aide, AID YOURSELF. Quit being a begging little bish.

[Wolfstanus]

@shumble32 Also letting people purchase weapons such as these helps the economy also helps in tracking such thing to help find murderers. It is also a known fact that crime will go down if criminals don't know who's armed. Ather crimes will rise slightly but most fall. But it's in the us constitution that says I may purchase and own a gun. Banning them is like banning bows arrows and or knifes

[Wolfstanus]

@shumble32 So government violates my 2a rights (btw they are) then its ok for them to do so? Not really taking away my rights because of a few. Also politicians tried to take rights away from the people. Like being able to vote them out of office etc. when government is Africa's of the people they take away their rights. But banning guns you don't really accomplish anything. It's like banning marajuna it does not go away it goes underground

[Wolfstanus]

More people die from stabbings and beating combined... more so than guns... sooo... I ban fists. Also ban guns then you have a black market... When you have one only criminals go there and thus only outlaws will have guns. Im happy to live in colorado open carry state I can walk around with it loaded and in "stage one"

[shumble32]

@Wolfstanus - so if it's not possible to reduce one cause of violent death then you shouldn't try to reduce another? Like saying that there's no point in going after drunk drivers when more people die of smoking-related disease

[utubehayter]

@shumble32

"you shouldn't try to reduce another?"

Sure, you should try to reduce violent deaths from all causes, but to say possession of guns cause death is like saying possessions of hammers cause breaking of things. There will always be guns the only question in the debate is do you want the innocent to possess one or just the criminal elements. Even if you magically manage to disarm criminals, then the guns of the law enforcement become potent threat to innocent lives.

[shumble32]

"possession of guns cause death is like saying possessions of hammers cause breaking of things" - yes but hammers make it so much easier to break things! And perhaps less things would get broken if there were less hammers. (yes you CAN smash down a wall with your bare hands but...)

[shumble32]

@utubehayter

True there will always be guns in America - politically there's no other option and the perception of their necessity is overwellming. But there are countries not obsessed with guns that have few murders and no more problem with out of control police than the US.

[utubehayter]

@shumble32

"few murders and no more problem with out of control police than the US."

Oh really? Is that why most of the world lives under soul crushing and totalitarian rule? Is that why British rioters had a free-for-all until the people (not the police) stood up to them with whatever arms they could muster? Gee, if only we could live in the lalaland that you live in....

[shumble32]

@utubehayter - you seem confused - I said that there are are countries that have "few murders and no more problem with out of control police than the US." - and you come back with the irrelevant "most of the world lives under soul crushing and totalitarian rule" - which even if right doesn't contradict my statement. Neither does that, frankly laughable, exaggeration of the recent storm-in-a-teacup riots.

[utubehayter]

@shumble32

Really? Tell me did you loose your business in the riot? Was your shop looted and burned down? Your head that was smashed with a baseball bat? Of course it is a "storm-in-a-teacup" when someone else pays the price for your preferred defenseless nakedness of society. Wait till it happens to you, then we will talk.

[shumble32]

@utubehayter - how many shops do you think were looted? 100, 200? oh dear, oh dear - much better to have thousands shot dead you say? mm...

[utubehayter]

@shumble32

How many times were you raped in your lifetime, once? twice? oh dear, better have thousands shot dead by law enforcement, you say? mmm...

There are no alternatives to self-defense other than just lying down and taking it like a woman. I am not American, so your adhominem attack is irrelevant. I rather have innocent persons have a fighting chance than trivializing the times they are victimized. Your so-called utopia where no one needs to defend themselves does not exist.

[shumble32]

@utubehayter - A society where guns are freely available for self-defence is unfortunately a society where guns are freely available for attack. If you live in such a society, having a gun may make you feel personally safer. But your freedom to arm yourself gives the same freedom to the bad guys.

Your accusation that I imagine a 'utopia where no one needs to defend themselves' - is just trying to put words in my mouth.

[utubehayter]

@shumble32

Wrong! Guns are always freely available for attack. The bad guys always have guns, even in the best "gun controlled" locales around the world. This is why your idiotic utopia does not exist.

[shumble32]

@utubehayter - Nope - around here the bad guys don't have guns - in a population of about 1/2 million) we've had one shooting in the last 5 years. The bad guys don't have guns because if they got stopped by the police while carrying one they'd be arrested.

Seems like you've fallen for the gun lobby's propaganda again. But hey, sucker, they tell you need guns because they want you to buy guns

[utubehayter]

@shumble32

To notice the fact that a 90lb teenage girl is MORE equal with a 300 lb muscle man in the scenario where both have guns is, as compared to neither having guns... is not propaganda.. just living in reality. I have not seen a single advertisement for guns in my life. There IS NO gun lobby where I live, neither do innocent civilians have guns. Murder is easy, robbery is common and rape happens all the time. Yeah, those gun lobbies are sure propagandizing me. 1Qestion - HOW?!

[shumble32]

@utubehayter - actually I was probably being a bit hard on you in that last post.

The point is that America is addicted to guns and nothing is going to change that

- but all the excuses and attempts at rationalizing the situation fall down when you look across the water at nations where guns are not popular nor necessary.

Of course the NRA and gun lobby don't want you to know that but they represent big business and are like the drug dealers who don't want you to give up the drug.

[utubehayter]

@shumble32

I have lived outside America for most of my life! I know how life is where people do not have the right to defend themselves.

And I don't get this conflation that if someone is pro-self defense and for taking responsibility and acquiring tools that would allow you to perform that task, that I must be American, or propagandized by "gun lobby"!

That profit seeking "big business" is behind this .. is laughable. Guns cost less than good wrist watches and last for generations!

[utubehayter]

@shumble32

Heck, you would spend more on a 3 day cruise than a good pistol costs! Not only that, it will allow you significant value for decades. It gives you a fighting chance against armed, bigger, or groups of assailants at your hip. If anything, the "big business" must be out of its mind to "propagandize" for such a cheap, useful, safe and long lasting product for the most important thing you got.. your life.

[XNMR53]

@shumble32 "actually I was probably being a bit hard on you in that last post"

How about if you stuff your head back up your ass and toddle along, limey? We already had this discussion with you trash about interfering in our internal affairs a couple of hundred years ago. You lost.

Now get lost!

[shumble32]

@XNMR53

a couple of hundred years ago - and you're still sensitive about it? amazing!

[XNMR53]

@shumble32 "a couple of hundred years ago - and you're still sensitive about it? amazing!"

No sensitive. Just aware that you ignorant trash are apparantly too stupid to learn stay out of our internal affairs.

Now, go boff you "mates".

[shumble32]

@XNMR53 - Sorry - didn't understand your reference 'boff your mates' - perhaps it's an American thing? Some sort of sport perhaps? How often do you do it?

[shumble32]

@utubehayter

But ok, if you think they are relevant ask yourself how many people died in the riots?

One (who died of a heart attack as far as I remember).

Back in the USA of course, everyone has guns and 12,000 people are not shot dead each year.

[utubehayter]

@shumble32

Really? How many of them were rightfully killed criminals? How many were shot by police officers (whom you plan not to disarm by the way)? How many were suicides (unless you think if people don't have guns, they wont commit suicide by other means)?

FYI, 40,000 people die on highways each year, should highways or vehicles be banned too?

Giving up guns for fear that they would fall into wrong hands is like giving up homes so they not be burglarized... i.e. stupid.

[shumble32]

@utubehayter - you get me wrong - I don't 'plan' to change anything at all. America can't get rid of guns and the UK doesn't need them.

"Giving up guns for fear that they would fall into wrong hands" - wake up - they already have fallen into the wrong hands!

[utubehayter]

@shumble32

Oh really? so you are just bitching about nothing?

"America can't get rid of guns"

yeah and I can't eat a pile of shit. I can't because I won't as it is undesirable and stupid thing to do. Are you going to bitch about that too?

"they already have fallen into the wrong hands!"

You fail to understand. Guns have been in the wrong hands overwhelmingly from the beginning. Allowing law abiding persons to have them legally is allowing some of the the right hands to have them too.

[shumble32]

@utubehayter - And now, laughably, you are telling me that 40,000 die on the roads as some sort of reason not to do anything about the lesser numbers killed by guns - when it was you, at the very start of this discussion who said

"Sure, you should try to reduce violent deaths from all causes",

Perhaps you meant to say "Sure, you should try to reduce violent deaths from all causes except for guns",

[shumble32]

@utubehayter

Americans love guns and that love has made you blind to alternatives and irrational in your arguments. Not that you have any alternatives.

[lust4nonedrummer321]

ironic, the length of this video on Firearm laws in 5:56

[JaxxBat]

@lust4nonedrummer321 .. :)

[CArdsadET]

3:37 ''not be harassed'', yea as well u can shoot a bunch of people, yea that`s cool, guns brings peace, mkay.

[gwmiv]

The bad guys and thugs are the F.G. I can scare a street thug empty handed. Cops and Feds not so easy. However most cops do not want to mess with a disabled combat veteran. I have seen them hesitate and/or walk away or treat a "detainee" very gently.

[JaxxBat]

@gwmiv . Good to hear. America needs a few million more with your stuff..

[Ladyradical]

Ray has my vote too! He is simply the very best choice for Georgia, bar none.

[hiruleshouse]

every time I try to view this I can hear the host but I can NOT hear Ray Mcberry's commentary

[UglyBonnie]

@hiruleshouse Do you have both Left and Right speakers working? Ray is in the right speaker. Also, turn your volume up a lot after Mr. Lupo's introductory remarks. The interview audio is weak in comparison to the first remarks.

[XxXxINSIGHTxXxX]

I heard that Obama told the secretary of Ga that GA will not be allowed to check to see if it's voters are even citizens. They will allow all non citizens to vote. Does anyone know about this story?

[UglyBonnie]

@XxXxINSIGHTxXxX

I believe that a federal judge ruled against Georgia's requirement that a voter provide a driver's license or other valid picture ID to vote. The election workers have to accept other documents such as a phone bill as "proof" of ID, which is all that Georgia law previously required before the new law was passed requiring valid picture ID.

[UnitedCorpOfAmerica]

@XxXxINSIGHTxXxX It makes sense. Obama, a non-citizen will then get the non-citizen vote! It has all but become a crime to be patriotic. "Pay taxes to support your nation... BUT don't support it any other way... or else." We have a psychotic government! "Cold dead hands" may have to become a reality and no longer just a euphemism.

[barelyillegal79]

GA public gathering law has got to go.

[ThePlaneTruth]

There shall be no infringement there of.

[ObiWanShinobi1]

1: (experienced) street level beat cops are very often very pro-gun (for citizens)

2: Kennesaw, Ga would be an excellent companion piece to this - seems they issued a law requiring all sane, rational non felon adults who could afford one to own a gun: Crime is pretty much gone in Kennesaw Ga.

[Blackhalo325]

Ray McBerry has my vote.

[803honda]

Georgia does seem to be controlled by the intrest of downtown Atlanta. maby you should consider a split.

[kmassabe]

NICE INTERVIEW