For example, workers in which EU countries work the longest weeks?That would be the Greeks, who work on average 42h a week. Spain and Portugal aren’t far behind with a work week of around 39h. And where is the shortest work week in the EU? That would be in the Netherlands, under 31h a week. Germans on average work just under 36h a week, significantly less than the hard-working Greeks they are now bailing out.
Belgium (Karelvan Miert), Germany (Otmar Issing), Ireland (Peter Sutherland), France (Antonio Borges), Italy (Mario Monti) and Greece (Lucas Papadimos, Petros Christodoulou), all ex advisors of Goldman Sacks. HOW COME?
For example,workers in which EU countries work the longest weeks? That would be the Greeks, who work on average 42h a week. Spain and Portugal aren’t far behind with a work week of around 39h. And where is the shortest work week in the EU? That would be in the Netherlands, under 31h a week. Germans on average work just under 36h a week, significantly less than the hard-working Greeks they are now bailing out.
After pushing a large amount of money for Greece to hide their finaciall deficit and sending Greece to the EU, Goldman bought the Credit Default Insurance from a German bank as it had predicted that this crisis would happen,,,so is Goldman to blame?
Do you realise who caused the world crisis in 2008? Goldman sachs was deeply involved, do you realise that goldman sachs helped the greeks to enter the eurozone with huge debts? all camouflaged by goldman sachs.
Do you realise the people that have to 'save' europe from going bankrupt are the people responsible for all this? Mario draghi, was working for Goldman sachs, even as the new italian prime minister and the new greek president.
That agreements and sign the policy, the Greek people do not recognize. and when (the Greek people) to prosecute, he would withdraw all its treacherous agreements they signed. And not only that. First to nationalize everything you have and you've stolen second will demand and war reparations from germany owes us the 2 World War.
Americans and Mediterraneans are just alike. You appreciate what life has on offer but don't wish to pay the price. What a great plan for society.
Continue like this and your offspring will get raided by Vikings. Yes, we mean it. Already you can hear their sincere appreciation of your fatherly guidance and manhood as they are forced to pay your debts by a ring of men being your superiours.
As far I know you are not capable to fuck your own women. That’s why the tour Mediterranean for cock every summer(I think they call it personal experience this days)
So now we have establish that we fuck you women you are free to come and get fucked any time you want (we will call it family package!!!)
I wonder what would be the solution to an underestimated dollar to overcome the strongest euro ! Hmm let's think , there it is , we find the wooden horse to invade into the fortress (EU) and we rip it out from the inside , old time classics
They invented a fictional exchange rate (fraud)... They did this to hide their debt... allowing them to borrow billions more. If they had not "invented" a "fictional" exchange rate... they would NOT have been able to borrow the billions more. It walks like fraud, talks like fraud... hence it's fraud
WE WON'T PAY A PENNY!!!! DEAL WITH IT!!!! THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT REAL...THEY NEVER WHERE...FUCK THE GOVERMENTS!!! HELLAS WILL PREVAIL EITHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT ΕΣΣΕΤΑΙ ΗΜΑΡ!!!
@athenslarge I know your upset that your country had to default on its debt, but this is entirely Greeces fault. They spent too much goverement dollars on investment and commercial banking. I fear that if we can't make the payments because of our federal budget deficit that we too might have to default on our debt. Either way good luck to you guys, because it looks as though as you guys are going to need it.
@texniki1 Hey buddy. I'm writing a manifesto. Is this a quote? If so, can you provide me with the source? It would be greatly appreciated. Or the video, or just point me in the direction of. If you like, I can send you a template to a letter which will prove any mortgage or credit card contract to be unlawful so you don't have to pay them back even if you've spent all the money/credit. Provided you live in a common law country: USA, Canada, England, Australia etc. Peace and hair grease.
Do all of you people who admire the US, actually believe the bullshit we put out about, "The US being a Christian nation"? We're capitalists. What part of the word, "CAPITALIST" do you morons not understand? It's this simple; we Americans are guile. We capitalize on other's misfortune that we create or help create. We adore the gullible as well as the greedy. We will rape your women, kill your kids and torture your men. We will bomb the hell out of your country if it pleases us.
@Musicsage Wait... Goldman sacks was only helping the Greek government hide debt that they knew they had. So isn't the Greek government the real bad guy here?
Did they do it? Well why not. They employ the brightest people on the planet to make loadsamoney. Such a shame the world's brightest didn't do something their kids could be proud of. Instead of which, their kids will become just yet more screwed up rich kids with a cocaine problem.
The reason for the crisis is of course a lot of greed & individualism. From a lot of sectors. Even the birds in the sky will tell you this. Its obvious. Its a lot of things post-1991. People living unsustainably, not saving any money for a rainy day or tomorrow, corruption, etc. Its just a breakdown in the social fabric post-1991. People are not collective because they lost their spirituality, or never had any to begin with.
LOL you people are so dumb to give Goldman Sachs so much credit and power. LOL I cant stop laughing on how stupid people are. Look you stupid Nazis my advice BUY Goldman stock and make some money. Nazi's are always easy to bribe.
Silly us... you're so right!! How could anyone think that crooked banking giants like Goldman Sachs are part of the problem? It is the average taxpayers fault for not bailing out more greedy Wall Streeters, how dare we try to interfere with the Wall Street-Washington gravy train!!
Everyone you hear that? Just go back to sleep there's nothing wrong the the system... ZionDF says everything is fine so be smart go back to watching MTV.
how come these companys can make the whoile economy hostage of them? arent they terrorists then? saying or u give us billions triollions or we will destroy you all? they should be killed just for that, thats blackmail and betrayl of their countrys, its thievery and theft and simply disgusting i think this was planned from the start to rapp the compatition with toxic assets and then bail out the fed riothschild boys
I wonder why this guy Max Kaiser is still alive....everyone who tolds the truth that stands against American,NWO's and Hebrew's interest in this fucking world is "mysteriously" assaninated....
You really think that small Greece managed to fool the EU to get in and avoid detection for a decade? Is Germany that stupid? I don't think so. EU/bank funded corruption bought those loans, to buy vastly overpriced EU goods (3-20 times the prices) and, more importantly, bind Greece tight for those other 'opportunities' that slowly emerge in the Eastern Med Basin (check Leviathan, Israel Cyprus and the USGS reports for the enormous natural oil and gas resources being discovered daily).
even a hundred rothschilds is not enough to feed greeks. wooooowww greeks are going to be rothschilds slaves.if I was instead of rothschilds I would burn all of these lazy greek flies.
goldman sacks is rothschild wake up, they own all banks they own england and the usa by the federal m s. they are trying to break the eu and euro and put imf in to destroy and inslave euro this is to make china big next thing and then inslave them too
Why the ratting agencies are only in the USA? And why this same agencies are guilty in the crash of the toxics products? Why Europe don`t have any ratting agencies? Now this ratting agencies are debiting bad information and the investors believe. This agencies don`t have any credit.
Why the ratting agencies are only in the USA? And why this same agencies are guilty in the crash of the toxics products? Why Europe don`t have any ratting agencies? Now this ratting agencies are debiting bad information and the investors believe. This agencies don`t have any credit.
oh god. this is just a stupid accusation. the level of intelligence - more like the lack of - can be exemplified when ppl accuse goldman for the greek crisis. i cannot believe people expect goldman to be accountable for the actions of greece and their wasteful spending.
If the greece government starts to eliminate corrupcy and the greece people start to work instead of whining then this issue can be resolved. Untill that time the rest of the european union is paying for this bullshit crisis.
There needs to be a worldwide revolt against all the elite, central bankers, and hidden power mongers. It's the only way people (regular people) will be able to enjoy life.
These collapses of economies are all carefully planned.
Greek polititians stolen all the money, and most Greeks do not really do work hard that is the statistics, just reliying on Tourist money will not going to finance your free Govrement give aways, NO Germany do not want to finance your banks, since this bail out money is given everyone %90 Germans resents Greeks , and very soon they will vote Merkel's cabinet out just wait for the ellections, I think Greeks should be kiked out from EU for liying about their finances to get in
I am Greek. I gratuated high school with 19.9/20 grade, entered the law School, studied for 5 years. Then I Had to work 2 as an intern and give oral and written exams to get my license. At the same time I was having my Master. Now I work from 9 a.m to 7, 8, 9 or 10 p.m and I'm getting paid 800 euros per month (and I have to pay my insuranse from my own pocket). This is the situation, more or less, for all young scientists in my country.
@mtakman Does it seem to you that we don't work hard? Or that we are overpaid?How much a corresponding lawyer in your country is getting paid? I think that before you critisise someone or jump to easy and big mouth conclusions, you should be informed of the situation of a country and you should look deeper.
@mtakman There are a lot of things to fix in my country, especially matters of mentality, but to characterize a nation from a historical moment, is totally unfair, untrue and irresponsible. Wouldn' t it be unfair if I said that all Germans f.e. are racists or fascists?
Greece has been bleeding the EU net contributing countries dry since they joined in the early 80's. Both the politicians and public have been living beyond their means, perpetuating a corrupt economy and they are now trying to blsme eberyone else except themselves. I'm sick of my taxes being used to prop up the Club Med countires. Fcuk them all - let them go bust !
@davehardinguk What I know is that: As you, I personally wasn't asked or voted if I as a person of a country wanted to join the EU. I bet you didn't want as well. Also believe me or not what Greeks pay as taxes, cannot be compared in percentage to what you pay. As from the point a development in the country, I cannot see that I live beter after the EU. Still though you and I pay trementous ammounts of money to taxes. Obviously the money don't go where it is supposed to and somebody steals.
@davehardinguk I wouldn't also say fuck the Greeks cos a lot of us including myself came to UK for studies due to the Greek crappy educational system. Personally I stayed in UK for 5 years of studies including MSc, where I payed more that 250000 euros for studies and living. That went to you UK people and I am not the only one. Once I came back my degrees from UK were not properly recognised in Greece (although UK is EU) and I can't find a proper job. Unemployed for 15 months due to crisis.
@davehardinguk Can't find even a crappy job in a freaking supermarket for studing in UK after so many years of study. What should I say: fuck UK? Mate we are both being robbed, clear?
@ta4gma - Yes, I feel sorry for the youth in Greece, as they are just picking up the crap left by their parents, who voted for the same old families, year after year and who kept the corrupt system going all these years. You can change the system, but it will not happen if you follow your parents example. Good examples of how to run a country properly are all around. You don't see switzerland or Norway suffering do you?
PS - Yes, the Harding family comes from the North East of England
@davehardinguk No, of course it won't happen. Youth tries to change things in Greece, but I am afraid (as the situation is at the moment) whoever we vote left party right, center, even the most extreme parties, they are all corrupt. That's why I wrote all the 300 seem corrupt and we are fed up. More extreme measures and nation's awakening is required, otherwise we are lost.
I agree that other countries are not suffering, cos there is meritocracy there. 1 way or another we have to change.
Lack of education,or not being stupid as most southern europeans,thinking that EU is something more than central european neo colonialism over the south.
Knowing that those central european countries don´t have a structure at 3rd world level,they have heavy industries,producing top quality material,crisis proof,exactly because their primary sectors are very small,and are secured by the EU funded southern european dependency on agriculture....
Now the south have uncompetitive economies,incapable of resisting anything,and we are the bad guys,the lying bastards,and the northerners the good fellows that heroically come to our aid..... and so rightfully......gain greater decisiveness in the EU institutions.....
Time to be very clear or Germany,France,Benelux,start providing us with some of their tech,and this becomes again a union of equals,in the measure of what it is possible(I don´t question their greater weight),or we,one by one we start sticking EU and NATO up their asses,and to tell them,to get lost,along with their hypocrite paternalism,because unlike them,we have many more alternatives than this filthy Union.
@StellandBlood - So get on with your alternatives, I'm sick of my taxes being spent on bailing out Club Med countires. I'm also sick of hearing them bitching about how it's everyone else's fault, when the blame lies squarely with themselves. Do us all a favour and leave the EU, then I can enjoy watching you and the whole EU shit pile come crashing down
As we are sick of seeing your products here,as if we couldn´t produce them ourselves,its you northerners who bitch about everything,then when you heard what is really happening you don´t like it.
If the EU doesn´t change yes we will leave it,and start to shit on it,resources we have them from Africa,and nothing will give us more pleasure than to embargo you"paper powers",and to make far more expensive African and South American resources,we have geopolitical supremacy.
@davehardinguk And I am sure the Greeks would love to be rid of filthy pommy chavs taking vacations to their land,(via unpaid credit cards) poluting their area with classless drunken behaviour. BTW Engalnd is in FAR bigger shit than Greece. Full of musilims, terroists, and spending millions of pounds on an unnesary war. At least Greece has no blood on their hands unlike the UK
@davehardinguk Are you high? Greeks were terrorized by The Turks, The English and the Germans. Did they invade Iraq? Or Afghanistan? Did they commit genocide or invent concentration camps like the British?There is NO comparison to the amount of blood your country has shed. Try look at your land's shortcomings (UK DOES have a debt, you know?) before you point fingers at others. And the Anglos in the UK seem to have NO problem being employed by greek owned businesses in the UK
@EffLabels BTW, Turks are in far better position and stronger because they are not leeching on EU like you are. Look inside to find the problem rather than blame others for your pitiful situation.
Τούρκοι είναι σε πολύ καλύτερη θέση και ισχυρότερη, διότι δεν είναι leeching της ΕΕ όπως σας είναι. Κοιτάξτε στο εσωτερικό για να βρείτε το πρόβλημα και όχι άλλα, φταίει για θλιβερή κατάσταση σας.
@bacaca88 The Greek inside problem was massive borrowing via Jew banks who don't care to make your nation bankcrupt for their profit. Maybe you target your hated towards your oligarch rulers whom you voted for to deal with these bankers. Maybe you also look in the mirror and accept your own blame in this.
@EffLabels So, you are racist 'christian' and ignorant!!! I guessed as much. I also hope that you are Irish, Spanish or Portuguese. Then you can suffer and reflect as penitant man. Stuff you.
@EffLabels are you long distant descendant of some greek settler who 'bailed out' of Greece many years ago because your papa could not make good life there? Maybe you are link to Goldman and likes to stand up for your boss? If so, then you are traitor big mouth child.
@bacaca88 Nope. I have lived in Greece and still to this day think it is a beautiful country. It certainly has a better quality of life than the UK or other countries.
@EffLabels I 100% agree with you and would wish that the Greek government never made the decision on behalf of the Greek electorate to borrow cash from a bank which does not care for the values which you do. Regarding the UK and other countries, including Ireland, Portugal, Spain and Belgium then these places can suffer far harder than the Greeks in many ways. I apologise for insulting you, but do not resort to blaming Islam for Greek problems which made me angry with you.
@davehardinguk We do have blood on our hands,though mostly from defending our own country. the only expansion war I can recal is that of Alexander the Great. Reclaim wars do not count as expansion wars btw and through thousands of years Greece has lost and got back territory a handful of times. Nowadays those that stole from us ,present our own treasures,monuments,culture as their own. The runaways and nomads that were once given selter or fended off became thieves and finally masters .
Switzerland lives with a banking system that accepts to store the money of criminals all around the world,including all the EU financed crap polititians in southern Europe,its a criminal country.
@ta4gma I bet that you bet that Greek tourism this year is fraction of previous years. But, it is not important because big money from those who count is (and never will be) invested in Greek tourism.
Keep striking for worthless outcomes because you Greek are finished before you protest and have nothing to gain except for misplaced pride.
@bacaca88 Actually I meant I bet that Goldman is responsible, but of course with the acceptance of keys members of Greek government (who actualy are more responsible of course). Tourism is actually down, but I wouldn't complain. The truth is that Greece is a paradise and it is a shame that there is not enough investment on this sector. It is a treasure that we do not take advantage of and I also bet that if some other country had those natural beauties, they would do much more than us, shame.
@ta4gma I am really sad that tourism is down, but everyone expected this. Western civilisation started here and your history and islands are head and shoulders some of most important in the world. I just wish that politician did not ruin this by self greed and corruption. Same in UK and most countries in the world. Hope people can vote more intelligently next time rather than let liars get into power.
@bacaca88 Thanks man for your good words. i am afraid though that all the 300 hundred in the Greek parliament seem corrupted of influenced and afraid of some foreign force and all Greeks seem to feel lost at the moment. God bless...
oi aplistoi politikoi pou 8a poulagan k tn psyxh tous sto diaolo gia na fane ta ekanan ola k twra emeis fainomaste ta maura provata...alla ftaime k meis dn mporw na pw oxi
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No one to blame but Greeks, living for free for years sleeping all day ,drinking UZO all night retiring at 50 will not going to cut it , go to work like the rest of us in Germany, no more free money go to work
@mtakman What are you talking about?I will answer only for the retiring,because everyone can understand that,what you said about sleeping and Uzo,just show your stupidity.NO ONE here,in Greece retires at 50 or 60,except the pilots.Do you understand? FREE MONEY?What are you talking about?They are just loan.Secondly,do you remember the war?We ask you this money.The amends,about the disasters you caused.And,finally we are in E-U-R-O-P-E.Understand it.
@mtakman Dear co-citizen in Europe. We did play our part on this situation. We must be blamed for letting things be like that. We have to blame ourselves for voting politicians we do not deserve. But U must WAKE UP! We do NOT live our lives for free. We work all our lives in worse conditions than you do - most of us at least -. We live to work just like you. We were wrong in trusting some people. Like U were wrong trusting Hitler and his crue. That's all there is in a simple way of saying things
@mtakman you have no idea about Greece so stfu we are working and we are working hard but all our politicians are corupted and we have noone else to vote.They do whatever the fucking america tells them and the fucking jews
@mtakman you are fool man! my mother is working from 11 years old..now she is 49, and she has not stop working...the same my fatser, all my family! i dont think that germans work from 11 years as my mother.... grow up, and stop listening what does the mutes speaking for...
olso, you must learn that germany, ows 50 billions to greeve, from the 2ww... i do not olso think that you mutes speaking for this...go kill yourself
@KingRyltar But goldman sachsIMF/world bank federal UN reserve r the real rulers of the usa any country dares to default? cause they been made bankrupt by bankers who have the *right to print the international trading currency at will based on NOTHING THEY CAN N WILL PRINT ENOUGH MONEY TO FUCK ANY COUNTRY THEY WISH he Whole world owes so much to few bankers who produce FA but bits of paper
Well Goldman,in corporation with the corrrupted Greek government hid the Greek debt,and now those guys,who also control IMF,say that we need measures,need to borrow more money etc..
Μπορείς να κάνεις κάτι φίλε...η γονείς μας καταστρέψανε αυτά για τα οποία οι γονείς τους παλέψανε. Πιεζώμαστε απο την οικογένοιά μας για να ψηφίσουμε "το κόμα" απο το οποίο θα καλοπεράσουμε πιό πολύ. Δέν μας σκεφτήκανε καθόλου. Μόνο την πάρτη τους κοιτάζουνε. Όλοι θέλουν το κακό της Ελλάδας και όπως φαίνετε θα κληθούμε να ξεπληρώσουμε τον φόρο τιμής που χρωστάμε σε όσους έχουν χύσει το αίμα τους για εμάς..εχθροί μας είναι οι εφιάλτες...
The Plan is ONE!!! "Dominate the world" this is the job of the wall-street monkeys,
Us and Uk got this plan for years now, the invisible war has all-ready started years now everything is a target, and the No1 GOAL is Greece coz if they slave us, they will
easy slave everyone, they can wash everyone with media and sound, they even controle the weather (search about HAARP + Orgonite) and WE ARE NOT SHITING THERE AND WACTH THEM, BUT WE WILL FIGHT BACK WITH THE SAME WEAPONS ,Rhodes/Greece
And the reason he changed the trade laws model was to favour globalization and extreme capitalism.And the reason to favour globalization and capitalism was because forreign international buissinesses like Lidl and Carrefour wanted to bring their products at Greece and sell them at very low prices to rise their competitiveness.Foreign international buissinesses are sucking money from Greece,money that go elsewhere,and greek shops are closing one after another.
The reason Greece cannot pay this debt is because Greece isn't making enough money.And the reason Greece is not making enough money is because greeks shops are closing one after another.(More buissinesses=more tax money)And the reason greek shops are closing is because They doesn't make profit.And they reason they doesn't make profit is because people are poor.And the reason people are poor is because at 2005 the ex-PM Karamanlis changed the whole trade model of Greece.
funny.............goldman sachs employees running the US FED/treasury and this story about how they wanted to help greece hide their debt problem........anyone thinking twice about their banking portfolio???
Greece is a poison of EU from Goldman Sachs. The objective of US is to disintegrate Euro area using Greece as a key. How about getting rid of Greece from EU to protect others? Greece shouldn't be in EU at the beginning.
@langrissser ...greece is a poison to the eu...right..very clever..so if you get rid of greece you think that the americans cannot find another weak (financially ) european nation (and maybe a corrupt goverment) in order to disintegrate the euro ??in addition where do you think the debt comes from mostly??weapons and aircraft maybe??greece is spending the biggest amount of money buying arms in order to keep a balance wtih turkey..all that because the EU is a fraud from the start..
@langrissser in addition ..the EU was never present when cyprus was invaded..or when imia was trespassed by turkey ..or even everyday that our borders are tresspassed by airplanes...but ..when it is about money..you know..we are the black sheep within the EU..
God bless the our masterbankers WHO have been given the "right" by crooked politicians to print our money based on FUCK ALL but hot air n theyu can print all they want at will can u imagine that? u work like fuck sweat blood but however much u earth in a year or a life time they can print MORE is seconds who is the slave n who the master? WT Fuck up thjis is MADNESS n if you cannot see it u deserve all u get from them
I'm sorry to say I teach the English language (and what it represents) to greek children after reading your racist comments. Do you actually come from a developed country?
It's our crisis, our debt, our fault, so why don't you stay out of it and give us a break? You're gonna get back your money with an interest rate. What do you have to lose apart from your decency?
@andronikim you confuse racism with your inadequacy and stupidity. You are 100% to blame and we won't forget you. Tell your children why you have failed them and explain why they have many very hard years in front of them to 'pay' for their parents abject greed. You get no break for making the collapse of Europe. You can even beg, but you are finished.
@bacaca88 I know exactly what racism is...grouping people and tagging them because of the few who made this mess. How would you feel if I called the English imperialists because of your politics? Would that apply to the whole nation? If so, then I'd rather be Greek and corrupt than English and imperialist. I won't even bother replying to your message. Adios.
your oblivion and ignorance are depicted by your language style and use. Even I, a corrupted stupid citizen of Greece with my only intention to be the one of being similar to the ones i judge and swear to as "thieves" has a better language formation and use than your English supremacy.Learn that if the English and German had refunded Greece and Cyprus for the years of their illegal territorial possession the killings and the abuse,our dept would be no more.
@MARIOSBOUNAK I agree with you here BTW. It's not just Greece and many (if not all) EU 'governments' have played a big part in this.
The problem is that nobody seemed to care when things looked good.
Regarding Greece, you are just the tip of the iceberg and will be the first to fall. For sure, many more will follow - maybe even the UK. Everyone deserves this. It is time for law abiding and careful people to take control of this mess from those who caused it all.
I do speak exceptionally good English. I just try to keep my comments simple so that many people can understand. If want big words and an intellectual chat, then OK with me.
@andronikim You play racist card to me for saying Greeks let this happen because your greed overruled your morality. I advise that you spent more time to teach your school morals, ethics and about your proud history rather than dwelling upon your deep-seated insecurities.
It is the banking system and politicians that will never give you a break. The sooner you realise this, then you can understand that outrage that ordinary Europeans have for your selfishness and gross stupidity.
@EffLabels You are in denial. I critsise Greece because you are poorly educated and enjoy a lifestyle totally alien to most which makes you a leech - not a supporter - on the EU.
@bacaca88 Iam not from Greece you moron 'I like burn leech like you' What?Could please learn some English first before you start judging whom should be in the EU.
A lifestyle totally alien? Have you ever been? Greeks dont blow people up, start wars, stone woman. I think their 'lifestyle' is akin to any socially advanced country. Greece is certainly not the only EU country in debt. Read the news. BTW Turkey is doing SO well it just got the shit bombed out of it today LOL
Goldman and Sachs helped Greece to become a troyan horse to fuck themselves actually and the USA. Why don't they solve the problem. Greece is telling they got no money.. boohooh, I don't buy that. They got a lot of assets, we should consider to claim when they keep on protesting. Every birthright Greek on this planet. WHY? Because dictature.. or should I say corruption is part of their culture.
@Brulluhman you are right. They can sell their islands or expensive private yacht of their politician. Thing is that they protect their politician since all Greek citizen aspire to political position to make corrupt earning. So, if they expose politician to prosecution, then Greek lose their entire ambition and reason to exist.
@bacaca88 It's not so much about Greece. More about the rest, like Italy and Spain. We're arranging a bail out that should be hard enough to scare off those countries. The GDP of Greece is not big enough to kill the euro, that story is overdue. That means they can go bankrupt and nothing happens. Only Greece would be in the deepest shit ever. When the terms for Greece aint hard enough.. other countries will come with their bad financial shit.
@Brulluhman I really expect the whole EU to implode in the coming months as the situation is far more serious than people realise.
Essentially, the system and those governing it are corrupt and have bankrolled their countries future with greedy crap banks like Goldman.
In many ways I feel very sorry that Greece is taking the brunt. But people have to wake up and accept their personal responsibilities for letting this happen. Maybe even put their politician on trail for this.
@bacaca88 Again.. even when Greece go's bankrupt, that doesnt hurt the eurozone enough to kill the euro. We are able to save 72 billion euro within 10 years just by closing our border for non-western countries. We're able to save 200 billion euro by taking the measures we're doing now with the current poles (able, that doesnt mean doing) Greece is a country that completely runs on gov. officials. 1/4 people are. They should change that climate, they are trying to do that.
@Brulluhman Απλά τραβήξτε από την ΕΕ και την προεπιλογή για το χρέος σας. Καλό για να ορίσετε αυτό το παράδειγμα προς μίμηση και θα λύσουμε το πρόβλημά σας με κυβερνητικούς αξιωματούχους που πήρατε σε αυτό το χάος. Πραγματικά.
Something will blow back, I think USA IS SCREWED! This is what's going to happen. Greece go's down, they need to cut costs but they protest, so that means no rescue plan. Those Greeks don't have any sence of reality.Their moneymachines will stop soon. After that, comes the banks of Spain. They are just out of the crisis, but likely their banks will be hit by that. After that comes UK. Now there's the worry of the USA.
Put GOLDMAN SACHS executives in JAIL......They are Robber Barrons... Putin took care of them in Russia methodically but firmly. The same should happen in the US.
i love how the greeks think having to work past the age of 60 is an "austerity" measure. not to mention how the politically correct utterly delusional euro-dandies are still running around calling anyone who wants to institute any form of immigration reform whatsoever in any nation anywhere a racist. brilliant!!! and what's with telling people they have some sort of divine right to not work more that 35 hours a week? talk about lazy.
No Greece Politicians are responsible for their problems. The US politicians are responsible for the Debt problems we have in the USA. Blame it on the ones who spent the money. Who made the decision to do the deal with Goldman Sachs? Start their and hold them all responsible>
@mueygringo This is why highly paid SEC employees like to masturbate all day with porn that they downloaded at taxpayer expense rather than regulate crap banks like Goldman?
@bacaca88 If my monthly expenses to maintain the necessities of life exceed my income, I don't get an American Express Card to cover the difference. I don't buy a car or bigger home. I find another job. If I get the Credit Card to cover my short fall is that my fault or the credit card company's fault for giving me the card. Personal responsibilty. Someone in Greece had to know this was wrong. Then you say no to the deal! If Goldman is complicit in the deal then fines should be levied.
@mueygringo The whole situation has caused by personal greed and lax regulation. Goldman acted (and continue to act) with impunity and without ethics and morals. I do thing that ordinary Greeks were totally unaware of what their gvt was up to, but having a culture of corruption is mostly to blame.
@bacaca88 I agree with the issue of greed and regulation. What I am saying is that go after the politicians and they will tell all. Then go after all the others who are culpable . They should all be held accountable.
This has gone on to long. Ivan Bosky and Michael Milken made hundreds of millions. Frank Lorenzo is as low as you can get.. The Derivative traders on Wall Street and across the Globe made millions on Commissions and it has cost U.S. taxpayers and others over a trillion.
@mueygringo We agree here, this despicable behaviour it has gone on for far too long. Greeks fall first because they were easiest for Goldman et al in Europe. Politician there wanted money for nothing when they got into European Economic Union and made millions personally from this and knew that their laws protected them from prosecution.
Greeks must try politician responsible in court. But they won't because politician follow a culture of corruption accepted there.
@bacaca88 Honorable mention. Currency traders. These vultures manipulate monies accross the globe. They devalue a countries currency and swoop in to purchase devalued companies and other assets. George Soros and others are huge offenders. With friends in the Whitehouse and the State Department. this is a license to steal.
watch Zeitgeist addendum in youtube this documentary will show you who gains from broken economies , is all made by design there is allways a reason behind the madness
Well, "Goldman Sachs didn't do anything illegal..." that remains to be seen. They helped the Greeks fudge the books and sold them assets that had no value. Where did the money go? Into G-S's pockets.
@Khamomil International banking laws/policing are basically written/conducted by Sachs anyhow. Maybe I make a law to refine uranium in open air in Acropolis if I have the power and money.
Legality is defined by those with cash - not those with ethics, morals and history. This is why Greeks are setting the worst example - as they created democratic society, laws and ethics. Now they are uncivilized greedy dogs.
They cost careful person like me thousands because they have fucked up Europe.
Has anyone ever been to greece? Cash is king there!!! People look for ways to avoid taxes!! large public sector with nice pensions. You can retire at 50 and when you die your children can collect your pension!! You want to see the doctor? Slip the doc 50 euros and you'll be seen quicker. People steal electricity. Steal phones. You want to import something? Pay the customs guy 300 euros and you can sneak anything in. All a recipe for disaster.
Brulluhman bastard wash your mouth with antiseptic before you talk about Greece.
Greece are the heaven on earth and all that bastards like you, tries to lied avery time and every day to show that we are the problem!!! Fuck you an your economy-politics.
I'm going to tell you what's going on. Greece is a fucking communist country that lied their way into the eurozone. Now they are helping us to dust and after that the EU is handed over to communism. Look at the energy..interests. We can't pay our bills.. or maybe Germany. Russia raises their prices and give them big cuts when they allow Russians to use their airspace.. etc.
@Brulluhman "Greece is a communist country" How stupid are you??? If you can't pay your bills, then quit smoking dope and GO GET A FUCKING JOB YOU FUCKING MORON!
να πεθανετε ολοι ρε να ησυχασουμε. να βγαλετε ολοι καρκινο πλην των ελληνων
axaristos20 4 weeks ago
@axaristos20 ahahahah kala ta les
Xristinakisagapw2 2 weeks ago
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For example, workers in which EU countries work the longest weeks?That would be the Greeks, who work on average 42h a week. Spain and Portugal aren’t far behind with a work week of around 39h. And where is the shortest work week in the EU? That would be in the Netherlands, under 31h a week. Germans on average work just under 36h a week, significantly less than the hard-working Greeks they are now bailing out.
WALL STREET JOURNAL
By Matthew Dalton-Feb 14, 2011
panioleoful 1 month ago
EUROZONE MASTERS...
Belgium (Karelvan Miert), Germany (Otmar Issing), Ireland (Peter Sutherland), France (Antonio Borges), Italy (Mario Monti) and Greece (Lucas Papadimos, Petros Christodoulou), all ex advisors of Goldman Sacks. HOW COME?
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For example,workers in which EU countries work the longest weeks? That would be the Greeks, who work on average 42h a week. Spain and Portugal aren’t far behind with a work week of around 39h. And where is the shortest work week in the EU? That would be in the Netherlands, under 31h a week. Germans on average work just under 36h a week, significantly less than the hard-working Greeks they are now bailing out.
WALL STREET JOURNAL
By Matthew Dalton-Feb 14, 2011
panioleoful 1 month ago
After pushing a large amount of money for Greece to hide their finaciall deficit and sending Greece to the EU, Goldman bought the Credit Default Insurance from a German bank as it had predicted that this crisis would happen,,,so is Goldman to blame?
921Christopher 2 months ago
@OderuntDumMetuant
You are really a dumb, uneducated moron.
Do you realise who caused the world crisis in 2008? Goldman sachs was deeply involved, do you realise that goldman sachs helped the greeks to enter the eurozone with huge debts? all camouflaged by goldman sachs.
Do you realise the people that have to 'save' europe from going bankrupt are the people responsible for all this? Mario draghi, was working for Goldman sachs, even as the new italian prime minister and the new greek president.
Flyingdutchmen0317 2 months ago 2
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That agreements and sign the policy, the Greek people do not recognize. and when (the Greek people) to prosecute, he would withdraw all its treacherous agreements they signed. And not only that. First to nationalize everything you have and you've stolen second will demand and war reparations from germany owes us the 2 World War.
nekrothaftis88 2 months ago
No, the lazy Greeks are.
Americans and Mediterraneans are just alike. You appreciate what life has on offer but don't wish to pay the price. What a great plan for society.
Continue like this and your offspring will get raided by Vikings. Yes, we mean it. Already you can hear their sincere appreciation of your fatherly guidance and manhood as they are forced to pay your debts by a ring of men being your superiours.
scholion 2 months ago
@scholion What a surprise a Sweden!!!
As far I know you are not capable to fuck your own women. That’s why the tour Mediterranean for cock every summer(I think they call it personal experience this days)
So now we have establish that we fuck you women you are free to come and get fucked any time you want (we will call it family package!!!)
Vikings? Really?
poutsarasostoikos 2 months ago 2
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scholion 2 months ago
Its a complex question...go back to watching sports while the jew bankers rip you off and enslave you.
rotagen5 3 months ago
I wonder what would be the solution to an underestimated dollar to overcome the strongest euro ! Hmm let's think , there it is , we find the wooden horse to invade into the fortress (EU) and we rip it out from the inside , old time classics
konvalium 3 months ago
"Derivatives are financial weapons of mass destruction" - Warren Buffett
MarketDepth 3 months ago 6
my computer is not a tool for fun, i use it to read other opinions and share also...i hope real life is not hard with you...
haroulakos 4 months ago
They invented a fictional exchange rate (fraud)... They did this to hide their debt... allowing them to borrow billions more. If they had not "invented" a "fictional" exchange rate... they would NOT have been able to borrow the billions more. It walks like fraud, talks like fraud... hence it's fraud
sailingwest 4 months ago
WE WON'T PAY A PENNY!!!! DEAL WITH IT!!!! THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT REAL...THEY NEVER WHERE...FUCK THE GOVERMENTS!!! HELLAS WILL PREVAIL EITHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT ΕΣΣΕΤΑΙ ΗΜΑΡ!!!
haroulakos 4 months ago 3
@haroulakos haha enjoy your computer while u can, start printing porn and hording your money cause soon, youll need it.
1rken1nfantry 4 months ago
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itachiitachi1946 5 months ago
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People say there is a RACE problem. People say this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY and ONLY into white countries.
People say the only solution to the RACE problem is if EVERY and ONLY white countries “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
But if I tell the truth about the ongoing program of genocide against White people, Anti-Whites agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillion jews.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
VOTE THIS UP
WhiteHussar83 6 months ago
Goldman small Sacs and the fuckin jew rats can eat a FAT dick!
Long Live Greece..... You gave the World everything.
mrtundra45 6 months ago 2
@mrtundra45 was it really Goldman?
charms71 4 months ago
It's a wonder God has anything to do, what with Goldman Sachs doing so much of God's work.
ignoblius 6 months ago
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ignoblius 6 months ago
" Is it possible that this could have an impact on the US? "
Can u not see that u American Cowboys have ruined the world's economy, and u still care about your ass.
Unbelievable.......
athenslarge 6 months ago 2
@athenslarge I know your upset that your country had to default on its debt, but this is entirely Greeces fault. They spent too much goverement dollars on investment and commercial banking. I fear that if we can't make the payments because of our federal budget deficit that we too might have to default on our debt. Either way good luck to you guys, because it looks as though as you guys are going to need it.
AZsportshut 6 months ago
HENRY KISSINGER
Greek people are anarchic and difficult to tame.
For this reason we must strike deep into their cultural roots:
Perhaps then we can force them to conform. I mean, of course,
to strike at their language, their religion, their cultural and historical reserves,
so that we can neutralize their ability to develop, to distinguish themselves,
or to prevail; thereby removing them as an obstacle to our strategically vital plans in the Balkans, the Mediterranean, and the Middle East.
texniki1 7 months ago 13
@texniki1 that is one dangerous comment and the sad thing is it's true. [researched it some more].
charms71 4 months ago
@texniki1 Hey buddy. I'm writing a manifesto. Is this a quote? If so, can you provide me with the source? It would be greatly appreciated. Or the video, or just point me in the direction of. If you like, I can send you a template to a letter which will prove any mortgage or credit card contract to be unlawful so you don't have to pay them back even if you've spent all the money/credit. Provided you live in a common law country: USA, Canada, England, Australia etc. Peace and hair grease.
20Proff 4 months ago
Do all of you people who admire the US, actually believe the bullshit we put out about, "The US being a Christian nation"? We're capitalists. What part of the word, "CAPITALIST" do you morons not understand? It's this simple; we Americans are guile. We capitalize on other's misfortune that we create or help create. We adore the gullible as well as the greedy. We will rape your women, kill your kids and torture your men. We will bomb the hell out of your country if it pleases us.
BobbyWarrenMiller 7 months ago
Goldman SUCKS!!!
Musicsage 7 months ago 2
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@Musicsage Wait... Goldman sacks was only helping the Greek government hide debt that they knew they had. So isn't the Greek government the real bad guy here?
schedulingothers 7 months ago
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Well then Greece shouldn't be part of the EU.
Macguyverman 7 months ago
Did they do it? Well why not. They employ the brightest people on the planet to make loadsamoney. Such a shame the world's brightest didn't do something their kids could be proud of. Instead of which, their kids will become just yet more screwed up rich kids with a cocaine problem.
nowthatsinteresting1 7 months ago
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The reason for the crisis is of course a lot of greed & individualism. From a lot of sectors. Even the birds in the sky will tell you this. Its obvious. Its a lot of things post-1991. People living unsustainably, not saving any money for a rainy day or tomorrow, corruption, etc. Its just a breakdown in the social fabric post-1991. People are not collective because they lost their spirituality, or never had any to begin with.
gamimenaki 9 months ago
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@gamimenaki I second that!
DAVEDSIG 8 months ago
Goldman Sucks
aggelospanatha 9 months ago
LOL you people are so dumb to give Goldman Sachs so much credit and power. LOL I cant stop laughing on how stupid people are. Look you stupid Nazis my advice BUY Goldman stock and make some money. Nazi's are always easy to bribe.
ZionIDF 10 months ago
@ZionIDF
Silly us... you're so right!! How could anyone think that crooked banking giants like Goldman Sachs are part of the problem? It is the average taxpayers fault for not bailing out more greedy Wall Streeters, how dare we try to interfere with the Wall Street-Washington gravy train!!
Everyone you hear that? Just go back to sleep there's nothing wrong the the system... ZionDF says everything is fine so be smart go back to watching MTV.
bobshenix 9 months ago 2
how come these companys can make the whoile economy hostage of them? arent they terrorists then? saying or u give us billions triollions or we will destroy you all? they should be killed just for that, thats blackmail and betrayl of their countrys, its thievery and theft and simply disgusting i think this was planned from the start to rapp the compatition with toxic assets and then bail out the fed riothschild boys
badsign1980 10 months ago
I wonder why this guy Max Kaiser is still alive....everyone who tolds the truth that stands against American,NWO's and Hebrew's interest in this fucking world is "mysteriously" assaninated....
FOTARAStheGREEK 10 months ago
You really think that small Greece managed to fool the EU to get in and avoid detection for a decade? Is Germany that stupid? I don't think so. EU/bank funded corruption bought those loans, to buy vastly overpriced EU goods (3-20 times the prices) and, more importantly, bind Greece tight for those other 'opportunities' that slowly emerge in the Eastern Med Basin (check Leviathan, Israel Cyprus and the USGS reports for the enormous natural oil and gas resources being discovered daily).
Grrrrreekman 11 months ago 3
even a hundred rothschilds is not enough to feed greeks. wooooowww greeks are going to be rothschilds slaves.if I was instead of rothschilds I would burn all of these lazy greek flies.
Igotangry 11 months ago
even a hundred rothschilds is not enough to feed greeks.
Igotangry 11 months ago
Goldman sachs JEWISH BLACK MONEY
unfukkkmee 11 months ago
goldman sacks is rothschild wake up, they own all banks they own england and the usa by the federal m s. they are trying to break the eu and euro and put imf in to destroy and inslave euro this is to make china big next thing and then inslave them too
badsign1980 1 year ago
lets not forget about the Rothschild too! these snakes have been playing money lending particularly in england, France and most of Europe.
Moods921 1 year ago
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Why the ratting agencies are only in the USA? And why this same agencies are guilty in the crash of the toxics products? Why Europe don`t have any ratting agencies? Now this ratting agencies are debiting bad information and the investors believe. This agencies don`t have any credit.
forcadelta5 1 year ago
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Why the ratting agencies are only in the USA? And why this same agencies are guilty in the crash of the toxics products? Why Europe don`t have any ratting agencies? Now this ratting agencies are debiting bad information and the investors believe. This agencies don`t have any credit.
forcadelta5 1 year ago
Iceland said no to bank debt and comes out of recession.
telegraph . co . uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/8187476/Iceland-offers-risky-temptation-for-Ireland-as-recession-ends . html
Iceland offers risky temptation for Greece and Ireland as recession ends - Telegraph
TheNewMusicNetwork 1 year ago
oh god. this is just a stupid accusation. the level of intelligence - more like the lack of - can be exemplified when ppl accuse goldman for the greek crisis. i cannot believe people expect goldman to be accountable for the actions of greece and their wasteful spending.
bearstearn3 1 year ago
"Is Goldman responsible for Greek crisis? "
YOU GOD DAMN RIGHT ABOUT THAT !!!
OlympianPierian 1 year ago
those fucking bitches are fucking fat
Sardrith 1 year ago
If the greece government starts to eliminate corrupcy and the greece people start to work instead of whining then this issue can be resolved. Untill that time the rest of the european union is paying for this bullshit crisis.
Steve3272 1 year ago
There needs to be a worldwide revolt against all the elite, central bankers, and hidden power mongers. It's the only way people (regular people) will be able to enjoy life.
These collapses of economies are all carefully planned.
skipp311 1 year ago
economic killers. greece has too much oil..they couldn't keep their hands off of our land
deedeegr100 1 year ago
Greek polititians stolen all the money, and most Greeks do not really do work hard that is the statistics, just reliying on Tourist money will not going to finance your free Govrement give aways, NO Germany do not want to finance your banks, since this bail out money is given everyone %90 Germans resents Greeks , and very soon they will vote Merkel's cabinet out just wait for the ellections, I think Greeks should be kiked out from EU for liying about their finances to get in
mtakman 1 year ago
@mtakman
I am Greek. I gratuated high school with 19.9/20 grade, entered the law School, studied for 5 years. Then I Had to work 2 as an intern and give oral and written exams to get my license. At the same time I was having my Master. Now I work from 9 a.m to 7, 8, 9 or 10 p.m and I'm getting paid 800 euros per month (and I have to pay my insuranse from my own pocket). This is the situation, more or less, for all young scientists in my country.
mironasathens 11 months ago
@mtakman Does it seem to you that we don't work hard? Or that we are overpaid?How much a corresponding lawyer in your country is getting paid? I think that before you critisise someone or jump to easy and big mouth conclusions, you should be informed of the situation of a country and you should look deeper.
mironasathens 11 months ago
@mtakman There are a lot of things to fix in my country, especially matters of mentality, but to characterize a nation from a historical moment, is totally unfair, untrue and irresponsible. Wouldn' t it be unfair if I said that all Germans f.e. are racists or fascists?
mironasathens 11 months ago
Today Greece. Tomorrow EU. Goldman Sachs can destroy countries.
As greek i wont pay shit to bank-fascists. Also the greek politicians are liars and traitors, but the time is coming...
mpoukoma 1 year ago
Greece has been bleeding the EU net contributing countries dry since they joined in the early 80's. Both the politicians and public have been living beyond their means, perpetuating a corrupt economy and they are now trying to blsme eberyone else except themselves. I'm sick of my taxes being used to prop up the Club Med countires. Fcuk them all - let them go bust !
davehardinguk 1 year ago
@davehardinguk What I know is that: As you, I personally wasn't asked or voted if I as a person of a country wanted to join the EU. I bet you didn't want as well. Also believe me or not what Greeks pay as taxes, cannot be compared in percentage to what you pay. As from the point a development in the country, I cannot see that I live beter after the EU. Still though you and I pay trementous ammounts of money to taxes. Obviously the money don't go where it is supposed to and somebody steals.
ta4gma 1 year ago
@davehardinguk I wouldn't also say fuck the Greeks cos a lot of us including myself came to UK for studies due to the Greek crappy educational system. Personally I stayed in UK for 5 years of studies including MSc, where I payed more that 250000 euros for studies and living. That went to you UK people and I am not the only one. Once I came back my degrees from UK were not properly recognised in Greece (although UK is EU) and I can't find a proper job. Unemployed for 15 months due to crisis.
ta4gma 1 year ago
@davehardinguk Can't find even a crappy job in a freaking supermarket for studing in UK after so many years of study. What should I say: fuck UK? Mate we are both being robbed, clear?
PS: had a family named Harding in Sunderland.
ta4gma 1 year ago
@ta4gma - Yes, I feel sorry for the youth in Greece, as they are just picking up the crap left by their parents, who voted for the same old families, year after year and who kept the corrupt system going all these years. You can change the system, but it will not happen if you follow your parents example. Good examples of how to run a country properly are all around. You don't see switzerland or Norway suffering do you?
PS - Yes, the Harding family comes from the North East of England
davehardinguk 1 year ago
@davehardinguk No, of course it won't happen. Youth tries to change things in Greece, but I am afraid (as the situation is at the moment) whoever we vote left party right, center, even the most extreme parties, they are all corrupt. That's why I wrote all the 300 seem corrupt and we are fed up. More extreme measures and nation's awakening is required, otherwise we are lost.
I agree that other countries are not suffering, cos there is meritocracy there. 1 way or another we have to change.
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StellandBlood 1 year ago
@StellandBlood - If that is your best argument, then it's your lack of education is criminal
davehardinguk 1 year ago
@davehardinguk
Lack of education,or not being stupid as most southern europeans,thinking that EU is something more than central european neo colonialism over the south.
Knowing that those central european countries don´t have a structure at 3rd world level,they have heavy industries,producing top quality material,crisis proof,exactly because their primary sectors are very small,and are secured by the EU funded southern european dependency on agriculture....
StellandBlood 1 year ago
@StellandBlood - Their corruption and false accounting is certainly "first rate", by both politicians and public alike !
davehardinguk 1 year ago
@davehardinguk
Now the south have uncompetitive economies,incapable of resisting anything,and we are the bad guys,the lying bastards,and the northerners the good fellows that heroically come to our aid..... and so rightfully......gain greater decisiveness in the EU institutions.....
StellandBlood 1 year ago
@davehardinguk
Time to be very clear or Germany,France,Benelux,start providing us with some of their tech,and this becomes again a union of equals,in the measure of what it is possible(I don´t question their greater weight),or we,one by one we start sticking EU and NATO up their asses,and to tell them,to get lost,along with their hypocrite paternalism,because unlike them,we have many more alternatives than this filthy Union.
StellandBlood 1 year ago
@StellandBlood - So get on with your alternatives, I'm sick of my taxes being spent on bailing out Club Med countires. I'm also sick of hearing them bitching about how it's everyone else's fault, when the blame lies squarely with themselves. Do us all a favour and leave the EU, then I can enjoy watching you and the whole EU shit pile come crashing down
davehardinguk 1 year ago
@davehardinguk
As we are sick of seeing your products here,as if we couldn´t produce them ourselves,its you northerners who bitch about everything,then when you heard what is really happening you don´t like it.
If the EU doesn´t change yes we will leave it,and start to shit on it,resources we have them from Africa,and nothing will give us more pleasure than to embargo you"paper powers",and to make far more expensive African and South American resources,we have geopolitical supremacy.
StellandBlood 1 year ago
@StellandBlood - "geopolitical supremacy" ? What a joke !
The only thing supreme is the quality of the dope your obviously smoking to dream up such bullshit !
davehardinguk 1 year ago
@davehardinguk
Well,if my lack of education is "criminal",then yours is monstrous.
StellandBlood 1 year ago
@davehardinguk And I am sure the Greeks would love to be rid of filthy pommy chavs taking vacations to their land,(via unpaid credit cards) poluting their area with classless drunken behaviour. BTW Engalnd is in FAR bigger shit than Greece. Full of musilims, terroists, and spending millions of pounds on an unnesary war. At least Greece has no blood on their hands unlike the UK
EffLabels 1 year ago
@EffLabels - The Greeks have no blood on their hands ?!
WTF were you doing during history lessons - pulling yourself off ??
Take 5 minutes of your uneducated life to go and look up "Greek empire", or better still "Greek atrocities" on the internet.
Try to learn something and then perhaps you could compose an educated reply instead of the crap your currently posting.
davehardinguk 1 year ago
@davehardinguk Are you high? Greeks were terrorized by The Turks, The English and the Germans. Did they invade Iraq? Or Afghanistan? Did they commit genocide or invent concentration camps like the British?There is NO comparison to the amount of blood your country has shed. Try look at your land's shortcomings (UK DOES have a debt, you know?) before you point fingers at others. And the Anglos in the UK seem to have NO problem being employed by greek owned businesses in the UK
EffLabels 1 year ago
@EffLabels BTW, Turks are in far better position and stronger because they are not leeching on EU like you are. Look inside to find the problem rather than blame others for your pitiful situation.
Τούρκοι είναι σε πολύ καλύτερη θέση και ισχυρότερη, διότι δεν είναι leeching της ΕΕ όπως σας είναι. Κοιτάξτε στο εσωτερικό για να βρείτε το πρόβλημα και όχι άλλα, φταίει για θλιβερή κατάσταση σας.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 The Greek inside problem was massive borrowing via Jew banks who don't care to make your nation bankcrupt for their profit. Maybe you target your hated towards your oligarch rulers whom you voted for to deal with these bankers. Maybe you also look in the mirror and accept your own blame in this.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 By the way, I bet you are a Musilim Turk. I hope the Kurds get their revenge on you.
EffLabels 1 year ago
@EffLabels So, you are racist 'christian' and ignorant!!! I guessed as much. I also hope that you are Irish, Spanish or Portuguese. Then you can suffer and reflect as penitant man. Stuff you.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 Not Irish, Spanish or Portaguese. Sorry
EffLabels 1 year ago
@EffLabels are you long distant descendant of some greek settler who 'bailed out' of Greece many years ago because your papa could not make good life there? Maybe you are link to Goldman and likes to stand up for your boss? If so, then you are traitor big mouth child.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 Nope. I have lived in Greece and still to this day think it is a beautiful country. It certainly has a better quality of life than the UK or other countries.
EffLabels 1 year ago
@EffLabels I 100% agree with you and would wish that the Greek government never made the decision on behalf of the Greek electorate to borrow cash from a bank which does not care for the values which you do. Regarding the UK and other countries, including Ireland, Portugal, Spain and Belgium then these places can suffer far harder than the Greeks in many ways. I apologise for insulting you, but do not resort to blaming Islam for Greek problems which made me angry with you.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@davehardinguk We do have blood on our hands,though mostly from defending our own country. the only expansion war I can recal is that of Alexander the Great. Reclaim wars do not count as expansion wars btw and through thousands of years Greece has lost and got back territory a handful of times. Nowadays those that stole from us ,present our own treasures,monuments,culture as their own. The runaways and nomads that were once given selter or fended off became thieves and finally masters .
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@davehardinguk
Switzerland lives with a banking system that accepts to store the money of criminals all around the world,including all the EU financed crap polititians in southern Europe,its a criminal country.
StellandBlood 1 year ago
You bet...
ta4gma 1 year ago
@ta4gma I bet that you bet that Greek tourism this year is fraction of previous years. But, it is not important because big money from those who count is (and never will be) invested in Greek tourism.
Keep striking for worthless outcomes because you Greek are finished before you protest and have nothing to gain except for misplaced pride.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 Actually I meant I bet that Goldman is responsible, but of course with the acceptance of keys members of Greek government (who actualy are more responsible of course). Tourism is actually down, but I wouldn't complain. The truth is that Greece is a paradise and it is a shame that there is not enough investment on this sector. It is a treasure that we do not take advantage of and I also bet that if some other country had those natural beauties, they would do much more than us, shame.
ta4gma 1 year ago
@ta4gma I am really sad that tourism is down, but everyone expected this. Western civilisation started here and your history and islands are head and shoulders some of most important in the world. I just wish that politician did not ruin this by self greed and corruption. Same in UK and most countries in the world. Hope people can vote more intelligently next time rather than let liars get into power.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 Thanks man for your good words. i am afraid though that all the 300 hundred in the Greek parliament seem corrupted of influenced and afraid of some foreign force and all Greeks seem to feel lost at the moment. God bless...
ta4gma 1 year ago
oi aplistoi politikoi pou 8a poulagan k tn psyxh tous sto diaolo gia na fane ta ekanan ola k twra emeis fainomaste ta maura provata...alla ftaime k meis dn mporw na pw oxi
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jsoltisable 1 year ago
No one to blame but Greeks, living for free for years sleeping all day ,drinking UZO all night retiring at 50 will not going to cut it , go to work like the rest of us in Germany, no more free money go to work
mtakman 1 year ago
@mtakman hahahaha... grow up!
finebrova 1 year ago
@mtakman What are you talking about?I will answer only for the retiring,because everyone can understand that,what you said about sleeping and Uzo,just show your stupidity.NO ONE here,in Greece retires at 50 or 60,except the pilots.Do you understand? FREE MONEY?What are you talking about?They are just loan.Secondly,do you remember the war?We ask you this money.The amends,about the disasters you caused.And,finally we are in E-U-R-O-P-E.Understand it.
Capone596 1 year ago
@mtakman Dear co-citizen in Europe. We did play our part on this situation. We must be blamed for letting things be like that. We have to blame ourselves for voting politicians we do not deserve. But U must WAKE UP! We do NOT live our lives for free. We work all our lives in worse conditions than you do - most of us at least -. We live to work just like you. We were wrong in trusting some people. Like U were wrong trusting Hitler and his crue. That's all there is in a simple way of saying things
ckougar 1 year ago
@mtakman you have no idea about Greece so stfu we are working and we are working hard but all our politicians are corupted and we have noone else to vote.They do whatever the fucking america tells them and the fucking jews
Trampoukosss 1 year ago
@mtakman you are fool man! my mother is working from 11 years old..now she is 49, and she has not stop working...the same my fatser, all my family! i dont think that germans work from 11 years as my mother.... grow up, and stop listening what does the mutes speaking for...
olso, you must learn that germany, ows 50 billions to greeve, from the 2ww... i do not olso think that you mutes speaking for this...go kill yourself
spartandescendant 1 year ago
Hopefully Goldman dies and his family dies too. Painfully and without dignity.
CrazyMunky84 1 year ago
DEN INE SFALMA TOU GOLDMAN SACHS INE OI AXRISTOI ELLINES POLITIKOI
TA ELLINIKA PANEPISTIMIA EXOUN METATRAPI SE POLITIKA BOURDELA
PANE 10 XRONIA PANEPISTIMIO KAI PLIRONOUNE KAPION GIA NA PAROUNE TO DYPLO
EKANE O BENIZALOS TO KYNIMA TOU POLITEXNIOU TO 1973 GIA NA FERI DIMOKRATIA KAI EFERE ANARXIA KAI KLEPSIA
GOLDMAN SACHS KANOUNE TO DOULIATOUS OI ELLINES POLITIKOI INE POU DEN GNORIZOUNE TI KANOUNE
kouros53 1 year ago
@kouros53 Πες τα ρε μαγάλε,γιατί όταν τα γράφω εγώ είμαι φασίστας...
uboot1967 1 year ago
Goldman Sachs is to blame, and should be scraped and the revenue from the scraping used to repay ALL of the problems they have caused.
KingRyltar 1 year ago 36
@KingRyltar The revenue they reaped aint equal to damage done.
thomasmoonman 1 year ago
@KingRyltar People will forget soon, and Goldman will be up to their usual tricks. Believe that this is the truth.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@KingRyltar But goldman sachsIMF/world bank federal UN reserve r the real rulers of the usa any country dares to default? cause they been made bankrupt by bankers who have the *right to print the international trading currency at will based on NOTHING THEY CAN N WILL PRINT ENOUGH MONEY TO FUCK ANY COUNTRY THEY WISH he Whole world owes so much to few bankers who produce FA but bits of paper
THE MONEY MASTERS will shock n informe u no end
polygamous1 7 months ago
@KingRyltar learn from mistake - remember Lehman and aftermath...
dkamle234 5 months ago
Well Goldman,in corporation with the corrrupted Greek government hid the Greek debt,and now those guys,who also control IMF,say that we need measures,need to borrow more money etc..
JUST FUCK OFF AND DIE!
jimmyking92 1 year ago
@jimmyking92
Μπορείς να κάνεις κάτι φίλε...η γονείς μας καταστρέψανε αυτά για τα οποία οι γονείς τους παλέψανε. Πιεζώμαστε απο την οικογένοιά μας για να ψηφίσουμε "το κόμα" απο το οποίο θα καλοπεράσουμε πιό πολύ. Δέν μας σκεφτήκανε καθόλου. Μόνο την πάρτη τους κοιτάζουνε. Όλοι θέλουν το κακό της Ελλάδας και όπως φαίνετε θα κληθούμε να ξεπληρώσουμε τον φόρο τιμής που χρωστάμε σε όσους έχουν χύσει το αίμα τους για εμάς..εχθροί μας είναι οι εφιάλτες...
niettevragen 1 year ago
@niettevragen Ετσι ειναι απο μικρα παιδια μας μυουν στην
νοοτροπια του ευκολου πλουτισμου,παρολο που μπορουμε να
γινουμε παρασιτα στην κοινωνια...
jimmyking92 1 year ago
@niettevragen epitelous enas ellinas pou milaei me logiki. EPITELOUS.
JohnF30Music 1 year ago
The Plan is ONE!!! "Dominate the world" this is the job of the wall-street monkeys,
Us and Uk got this plan for years now, the invisible war has all-ready started years now everything is a target, and the No1 GOAL is Greece coz if they slave us, they will
easy slave everyone, they can wash everyone with media and sound, they even controle the weather (search about HAARP + Orgonite) and WE ARE NOT SHITING THERE AND WACTH THEM, BUT WE WILL FIGHT BACK WITH THE SAME WEAPONS ,Rhodes/Greece
MrGreeceCrisis 1 year ago
And the reason he changed the trade laws model was to favour globalization and extreme capitalism.And the reason to favour globalization and capitalism was because forreign international buissinesses like Lidl and Carrefour wanted to bring their products at Greece and sell them at very low prices to rise their competitiveness.Foreign international buissinesses are sucking money from Greece,money that go elsewhere,and greek shops are closing one after another.
Arxidianomeas 1 year ago
The reason Greece cannot pay this debt is because Greece isn't making enough money.And the reason Greece is not making enough money is because greeks shops are closing one after another.(More buissinesses=more tax money)And the reason greek shops are closing is because They doesn't make profit.And they reason they doesn't make profit is because people are poor.And the reason people are poor is because at 2005 the ex-PM Karamanlis changed the whole trade model of Greece.
Arxidianomeas 1 year ago
funny.............goldman sachs employees running the US FED/treasury and this story about how they wanted to help greece hide their debt problem........anyone thinking twice about their banking portfolio???
getabrainasshole 1 year ago 2
Greece is a poison of EU from Goldman Sachs. The objective of US is to disintegrate Euro area using Greece as a key. How about getting rid of Greece from EU to protect others? Greece shouldn't be in EU at the beginning.
langrissser 1 year ago
@langrissser ...greece is a poison to the eu...right..very clever..so if you get rid of greece you think that the americans cannot find another weak (financially ) european nation (and maybe a corrupt goverment) in order to disintegrate the euro ??in addition where do you think the debt comes from mostly??weapons and aircraft maybe??greece is spending the biggest amount of money buying arms in order to keep a balance wtih turkey..all that because the EU is a fraud from the start..
chris22253 1 year ago
@langrissser in addition ..the EU was never present when cyprus was invaded..or when imia was trespassed by turkey ..or even everyday that our borders are tresspassed by airplanes...but ..when it is about money..you know..we are the black sheep within the EU..
chris22253 1 year ago
God bless the our masterbankers WHO have been given the "right" by crooked politicians to print our money based on FUCK ALL but hot air n theyu can print all they want at will can u imagine that? u work like fuck sweat blood but however much u earth in a year or a life time they can print MORE is seconds who is the slave n who the master? WT Fuck up thjis is MADNESS n if you cannot see it u deserve all u get from them
polygamous1 1 year ago 10
I'm sorry to say I teach the English language (and what it represents) to greek children after reading your racist comments. Do you actually come from a developed country?
It's our crisis, our debt, our fault, so why don't you stay out of it and give us a break? You're gonna get back your money with an interest rate. What do you have to lose apart from your decency?
andronikim 1 year ago
@andronikim you confuse racism with your inadequacy and stupidity. You are 100% to blame and we won't forget you. Tell your children why you have failed them and explain why they have many very hard years in front of them to 'pay' for their parents abject greed. You get no break for making the collapse of Europe. You can even beg, but you are finished.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 I know exactly what racism is...grouping people and tagging them because of the few who made this mess. How would you feel if I called the English imperialists because of your politics? Would that apply to the whole nation? If so, then I'd rather be Greek and corrupt than English and imperialist. I won't even bother replying to your message. Adios.
andronikim 1 year ago
@andronikim Dream on boy. Reality is about to strike you awake.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 Friend :
your oblivion and ignorance are depicted by your language style and use. Even I, a corrupted stupid citizen of Greece with my only intention to be the one of being similar to the ones i judge and swear to as "thieves" has a better language formation and use than your English supremacy.Learn that if the English and German had refunded Greece and Cyprus for the years of their illegal territorial possession the killings and the abuse,our dept would be no more.
XAIRE!(prosper!)
MARIOSBOUNAK 1 year ago
@MARIOSBOUNAK I agree with you here BTW. It's not just Greece and many (if not all) EU 'governments' have played a big part in this.
The problem is that nobody seemed to care when things looked good.
Regarding Greece, you are just the tip of the iceberg and will be the first to fall. For sure, many more will follow - maybe even the UK. Everyone deserves this. It is time for law abiding and careful people to take control of this mess from those who caused it all.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@MARIOSBOUNAK Friend:
I do speak exceptionally good English. I just try to keep my comments simple so that many people can understand. If want big words and an intellectual chat, then OK with me.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@andronikim You play racist card to me for saying Greeks let this happen because your greed overruled your morality. I advise that you spent more time to teach your school morals, ethics and about your proud history rather than dwelling upon your deep-seated insecurities.
It is the banking system and politicians that will never give you a break. The sooner you realise this, then you can understand that outrage that ordinary Europeans have for your selfishness and gross stupidity.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 Dude, you must be a Turk. Why dont you leave the UK and go back to where you orginally came from. You have no business critisizing Greece
EffLabels 1 year ago
@EffLabels You are in denial. I critsise Greece because you are poorly educated and enjoy a lifestyle totally alien to most which makes you a leech - not a supporter - on the EU.
I like burn leech like you,
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 Iam not from Greece you moron 'I like burn leech like you' What?Could please learn some English first before you start judging whom should be in the EU.
A lifestyle totally alien? Have you ever been? Greeks dont blow people up, start wars, stone woman. I think their 'lifestyle' is akin to any socially advanced country. Greece is certainly not the only EU country in debt. Read the news. BTW Turkey is doing SO well it just got the shit bombed out of it today LOL
EffLabels 1 year ago
Goldman and Sachs helped Greece to become a troyan horse to fuck themselves actually and the USA. Why don't they solve the problem. Greece is telling they got no money.. boohooh, I don't buy that. They got a lot of assets, we should consider to claim when they keep on protesting. Every birthright Greek on this planet. WHY? Because dictature.. or should I say corruption is part of their culture.
Brulluhman 1 year ago
@Brulluhman you are right. They can sell their islands or expensive private yacht of their politician. Thing is that they protect their politician since all Greek citizen aspire to political position to make corrupt earning. So, if they expose politician to prosecution, then Greek lose their entire ambition and reason to exist.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 It's not so much about Greece. More about the rest, like Italy and Spain. We're arranging a bail out that should be hard enough to scare off those countries. The GDP of Greece is not big enough to kill the euro, that story is overdue. That means they can go bankrupt and nothing happens. Only Greece would be in the deepest shit ever. When the terms for Greece aint hard enough.. other countries will come with their bad financial shit.
Brulluhman 1 year ago
@Brulluhman I really expect the whole EU to implode in the coming months as the situation is far more serious than people realise.
Essentially, the system and those governing it are corrupt and have bankrolled their countries future with greedy crap banks like Goldman.
In many ways I feel very sorry that Greece is taking the brunt. But people have to wake up and accept their personal responsibilities for letting this happen. Maybe even put their politician on trail for this.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 Again.. even when Greece go's bankrupt, that doesnt hurt the eurozone enough to kill the euro. We are able to save 72 billion euro within 10 years just by closing our border for non-western countries. We're able to save 200 billion euro by taking the measures we're doing now with the current poles (able, that doesnt mean doing) Greece is a country that completely runs on gov. officials. 1/4 people are. They should change that climate, they are trying to do that.
Brulluhman 1 year ago
@Brulluhman Απλά τραβήξτε από την ΕΕ και την προεπιλογή για το χρέος σας. Καλό για να ορίσετε αυτό το παράδειγμα προς μίμηση και θα λύσουμε το πρόβλημά σας με κυβερνητικούς αξιωματούχους που πήρατε σε αυτό το χάος. Πραγματικά.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 η μονη λυση ειναι ΠΡΟΛΕΤΑΡΙΑΚΗ ΜΟΝΙΜΗ ΕΠΑΝΑΣΤΑΣΗ
dpapaioannow 1 year ago
@Brulluhman
Greece will not go Bankrupt.. Lol just check the other states total debt..
Its way bigger than Greece
WhiteAgent 1 year ago
@WhiteAgent the fans on but the shit is still in the bag!
getabrainasshole 1 year ago
Something will blow back, I think USA IS SCREWED! This is what's going to happen. Greece go's down, they need to cut costs but they protest, so that means no rescue plan. Those Greeks don't have any sence of reality.Their moneymachines will stop soon. After that, comes the banks of Spain. They are just out of the crisis, but likely their banks will be hit by that. After that comes UK. Now there's the worry of the USA.
Brulluhman 1 year ago
Put GOLDMAN SACHS executives in JAIL......They are Robber Barrons... Putin took care of them in Russia methodically but firmly. The same should happen in the US.
TheSonofawidow 1 year ago
Don't say fudged or misspoke the f-ing word is LIED start using it AGAIN!
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i love how the greeks think having to work past the age of 60 is an "austerity" measure. not to mention how the politically correct utterly delusional euro-dandies are still running around calling anyone who wants to institute any form of immigration reform whatsoever in any nation anywhere a racist. brilliant!!! and what's with telling people they have some sort of divine right to not work more that 35 hours a week? talk about lazy.
IowaArmen 1 year ago
capitalism is failing and communism already has failed.There is only one solution.
National Socialism.
Zeig heil,zeig heil!
rw5791 1 year ago
No Greece Politicians are responsible for their problems. The US politicians are responsible for the Debt problems we have in the USA. Blame it on the ones who spent the money. Who made the decision to do the deal with Goldman Sachs? Start their and hold them all responsible>
mueygringo 1 year ago
@mueygringo This is why highly paid SEC employees like to masturbate all day with porn that they downloaded at taxpayer expense rather than regulate crap banks like Goldman?
God bless the US of A.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 If my monthly expenses to maintain the necessities of life exceed my income, I don't get an American Express Card to cover the difference. I don't buy a car or bigger home. I find another job. If I get the Credit Card to cover my short fall is that my fault or the credit card company's fault for giving me the card. Personal responsibilty. Someone in Greece had to know this was wrong. Then you say no to the deal! If Goldman is complicit in the deal then fines should be levied.
mueygringo 1 year ago
@mueygringo The whole situation has caused by personal greed and lax regulation. Goldman acted (and continue to act) with impunity and without ethics and morals. I do thing that ordinary Greeks were totally unaware of what their gvt was up to, but having a culture of corruption is mostly to blame.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 I agree with the issue of greed and regulation. What I am saying is that go after the politicians and they will tell all. Then go after all the others who are culpable . They should all be held accountable.
This has gone on to long. Ivan Bosky and Michael Milken made hundreds of millions. Frank Lorenzo is as low as you can get.. The Derivative traders on Wall Street and across the Globe made millions on Commissions and it has cost U.S. taxpayers and others over a trillion.
mueygringo 1 year ago
@mueygringo We agree here, this despicable behaviour it has gone on for far too long. Greeks fall first because they were easiest for Goldman et al in Europe. Politician there wanted money for nothing when they got into European Economic Union and made millions personally from this and knew that their laws protected them from prosecution.
Greeks must try politician responsible in court. But they won't because politician follow a culture of corruption accepted there.
bacaca88 1 year ago
@bacaca88 Honorable mention. Currency traders. These vultures manipulate monies accross the globe. They devalue a countries currency and swoop in to purchase devalued companies and other assets. George Soros and others are huge offenders. With friends in the Whitehouse and the State Department. this is a license to steal.
mueygringo 1 year ago
yeah yeah blame the banks for Greece's bad spending habits
NJRocks281 1 year ago
watch Zeitgeist addendum in youtube this documentary will show you who gains from broken economies , is all made by design there is allways a reason behind the madness
doncalvito11 1 year ago
Well, "Goldman Sachs didn't do anything illegal..." that remains to be seen. They helped the Greeks fudge the books and sold them assets that had no value. Where did the money go? Into G-S's pockets.
Khamomil 1 year ago
@Khamomil International banking laws/policing are basically written/conducted by Sachs anyhow. Maybe I make a law to refine uranium in open air in Acropolis if I have the power and money.
Legality is defined by those with cash - not those with ethics, morals and history. This is why Greeks are setting the worst example - as they created democratic society, laws and ethics. Now they are uncivilized greedy dogs.
They cost careful person like me thousands because they have fucked up Europe.
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samaldini 1 year ago
Has anyone ever been to greece? Cash is king there!!! People look for ways to avoid taxes!! large public sector with nice pensions. You can retire at 50 and when you die your children can collect your pension!! You want to see the doctor? Slip the doc 50 euros and you'll be seen quicker. People steal electricity. Steal phones. You want to import something? Pay the customs guy 300 euros and you can sneak anything in. All a recipe for disaster.
cesar333 1 year ago
Brulluhman bastard wash your mouth with antiseptic before you talk about Greece.
Greece are the heaven on earth and all that bastards like you, tries to lied avery time and every day to show that we are the problem!!! Fuck you an your economy-politics.
God bless your idiot minds
aikstoforos 1 year ago
kill all trators
Brulluhman 1 year ago
I'm going to tell you what's going on. Greece is a fucking communist country that lied their way into the eurozone. Now they are helping us to dust and after that the EU is handed over to communism. Look at the energy..interests. We can't pay our bills.. or maybe Germany. Russia raises their prices and give them big cuts when they allow Russians to use their airspace.. etc.
Brulluhman 1 year ago
@Brulluhman "Greece is a communist country" How stupid are you??? If you can't pay your bills, then quit smoking dope and GO GET A FUCKING JOB YOU FUCKING MORON!
Atreas40000 1 year ago
@Atreas40000 GREECE IS A FUCKING CORRUPT COMMUNIST COUNTRY!
Brulluhman 1 year ago
@Brulluhman Lol what a troll...
x2thay 1 year ago