X-31 3D thrust vectoring

[9HighFlyer9]

I know these responses are quite old but I laughed when I saw people referring to the X-31 in present tense. The only remaining X-31 is in a German museum. The planes were NASA/DARPA research tools from the early 1990's.

[starknight97]

Demo models x31 vs su47 say both only have guns lol

[starknight97]

the f35 will have stealth over the su47 is about it. Though the pak fa has it all baby.

[MrNoeboy]

we have yet to see the progress of the pulse detonation engines. this technology have more potential than conventional jet fighter engines. if this technology progresses significantly; piloted jet fighters will still be around for decades to come.

[mokechi27]

it looks and sounds like the euro fighter........isn't it?

[USAAIRPOWER]

The F-22 Raptor, F-15SE Silent Eagle, F-15E Strike Eagle, F-16IN Super Viper Block 70, F-18E/F Super Hornet / Block 2, F-35A Lightning II, & Eurofighter Typhoon should use 3D Thrust Vectoring. Also F-22, F-15SE, F-15E, F-16IN, F-18E/F, & Eurofighter Typhoon should change the glass color liquid cockpit design to panoramic cockpit display glass cockpit like F-35 had.

[slapyousilly3]

very cool i hope this technology is seriously implemented on the F22 and future craft... and i don't know if its just me but the x31 looks a lot like the Ef2000

[mcsons13]

@slapyousilly3

Yes, they tested their concept on it. It's a feedback controled instable aircraft, that's why both, the EF and the X31, use the canard wings.

[slapyousilly3]

oh well now i know

[Patrickz1984]

@slapyousilly3 that is because the company that designed the vast majority of the EF2000 designed this jet as well. Hence the German Flag on the X-31.

[Warpath2198]

@Patrickz1984 I guess you never of a joint venture lol.

[Patrickz1984]

@Warpath2198 what?

[USAAIRPOWER]

The F-22 Raptor (USA) & Eurofighter Typhoon (Germany) are going use 3D Thrust Vectoring in the future since USA/Germany are working together. They are testing on X-31. The way I see 3D Thrust Vectoring make the aircraft turn easily & more maneuverable than any aircraft using 2D Thrust Vectoring.

[KARASAWA40]

3D TVC won't do any of that. 2D and 3D TVC have the same effect on instantaneous turn rates and roll rates. 3D only adds yaw control, and that doesn't really mean much in modern combat. If air combat was still as it was in WWII, 3D TVC would be great, but missiles are the weapons of modern combat.

[slapyousilly3]

well maybe it won't make much of a difference in combat but still it is a step forward already it will make future craft less reliant on air for their steering maybe one day flaps will be completely unecessary or maybe even wings because fighters will no longer rely on the air to keep them up

[KARASAWA40]

Replacing control surfaces with TVC is certainly possible. Wings, not so much. In that case, you not only need an engine to keep the plane going, you need one to keep it up. Unless you're only going vertical, that can get complex in expensive. It's just easier to have thin pieces of metal hanging off the sides.

[slapyousilly3]

i suppose so but still maybe one day somebody will invent an anti-gravity generator or something i figure its possible but then again i'm no engineer

[mcsons13]

That's true, there is also a ready-to-implement thrust vector nozzle developed by MTU I think, but for now there's no plan to produce it...

[timurstrupp72]

hmmm scary. finaly they learned from the errors they  made? no more hyperexpensiv buggy supercomplex F22? now cheap supermanoeuvrability small Fighter in exchange for the F16? maybe RCS is smaller than the MIG 21. this is gonna become a Problem for the Chinese and Russians at the market.

[pelagic6]

How much does this change the radar signature?

[USAAIRPOWER]

I think it would be cool if F-22 Raptor used 3D Thrust Vectoring instead of 2D.

[DanielMadrigalC]

I do not think that's possible because they will have to completely change the whole tail so that the turbine exhaust could move from right to left and then the F22 would be no more the F22

[molinobeer]

It's not the turbine exhaust that moves.... it's a directional Exhaust Nozzle.

[DanielMadrigalC]

that's what I meant but anyway there is no way to change the directional Exhaust Nozzle to move from right to left withowt completely change the whole tail

[molinobeer]

i don't know.

[EquinoxParadox91]

@USAAIRPOWER Does the Su-37 use 3D Thrust Vectoring?

[USAAIRPOWER]

@EquinoxParadox91

Yes it does!

[surfthecentre]

The f-15 is way faster and so is the mig-35. and the f-117 is stealthier.

[surfthecentre]

you don't actually believe all these apple pie american websites that claim it flys at mach 3 ? The stealth fighter is clearly more stealth its way more angular and black radar absorbing and designed specifically to be stealthy whereas the f-22 is meant to be multi role.

[surfthecentre]

The absence of variable intake ramps generally limits speeds to approximately Mach 2.0. thats from wiki.

[sakoshooter48]

GET THE FUCK OFF OF GODDAMN WIKIPEDIA AND DO SOME STUDYING! Wikipedia is chalked full of errors on so many things it is just about the most useless. Where do you think the intake marginalization devices are located smarty pants, I know where they are do you??????????? I'll give you a hint, they are invisible until the mach airspeed sensors detect the onset of the shock wave, and by the way it is a laser. Where would you put it if you had stealth considerations, I am anxiously awaiting!!!!!

[sakoshooter48]

Ok surf, heres the scoop. The F-22 uses an expanding area within the intake to slow the supersonic airflow down to manageable speeds. Very low tech, very cost effective.  The benefit of this system is that the amount of moving parts is minimal and therefore lends to the ease of maintenance. The old addage in aviation is that aircraft are designed by PhD's, flown by college grads, and maintained by people with a high school diplomas. Please think about this for a moment!

[sakoshooter48]

Here is a little more food for thought. The engines of the Raptor produce more thrust than ANYTHING ever put into a front line fighter. Accelerating at mach straight up is nothing. Imagine no afterburners at M1.74. Dry thrust of each engine is a closely guarded secret, but from the speeds attained without afterburner you can imagine how powerful they are. And top speed, well, thermal issues are the limiting factor here. Make no mistake, I would send my son to war in one of these vehicles!

[Cab0cl0]

less drastic landing my ass; lol

[Congamako]

fmoa, air combat is NOT about speed, sorry, and BVR is NOT air combat. Anyway, the SU-37 is FASTER than the F-22 and the X-project - if ever comes into service - will come too late (as usual in the USAF, as you know), so the Russians don't fear about their leading in this field.

[HawxSmokedTempo]

f-22 is much faster that than the su-37, and has better maneuvering abilities.

[peepeevagi]

Air combat has alot to do with speed, so dont count it out. All combat is about speed, time, and ability to counter attack.

I thought the X project ended up being the F35, lol.

[bobo1234ification]

BVR isn't air combat? accourding to whom?

[Czaendermajer]

but russia has new shields & their radar is extremely improved♫▐▐

[IthenGer]

Yesterday I was in a museum and there was this jet! AWESOME! BEAUTIFUL!

[ayonkish]

this thec nology its was used in nothig new usa or europe aircraft , `caus they are not so inteligen like a russian cientific, they have just money

[bleachxblitz]

i think its much funner in the old days, because the combat was more harsh. today is boring, i want killing! hahahahaa!

[ete0]

Not bad, but Russia already have serial plane MiG-35 with 3d OVT.

[boondocksaintss]

not to mention SU-37 Terminator....that's the real stuff!!!

[CRFpilot22]

No it won't that so called heavy Terminator nor the Mig-35 can't accomplish the mongoose maneuver. I call B.S on that

[uhmidk7]

thought it was a cobra meneuver

and i thought that the F-22 could do that to and the MiG -27, -27 ,

[fmoa]

su-37 is a experimental plane like this 1 idiot,,dont u know air to air combat is about speed,,none o this maneuvers will work in a actual high speed dogfight,dont u know that a EF can out-turn a su-37 at high-speed,,who cares,,russia planes av poor BVR combat capability,radar range,stealth n advance tech when compare to yanks fighter jets..

[fmoa]

russia werent the 1st to av thrust vectoring mate,,yanks test the f-15 active,f-16 matv n f-18 harv in mids 80s n this x-31 in early 90's while russia didnt even av 1 o its prototype TV fighter ready,the 1st rusky TV plane debut at mid 90's,so yanks av already av prototype before russia mate..also rusky planes dont come close to yanks at BVR combat,radar range,advance avionics n stealth,,so suck on that rusky..

[phillydecapitator]

Don't forget the american HIMAT from the 1970s

[Patrickz1984]

@ete0 true but the X31 had it's maiden flight in 1990, back then it was a ground breaking concept.

[Tomyeta1]

I learned something from this video: It pisses me off because Northrop made the YF-23 Yes? Well they are not using it in combat. makes me mad ):(

[ELOKPUTO]

whats the real cause for a plane to loss altitude when the speed is given to the exact rate?

[MediaNKinG18]

no prb

[Capt777harris]

Interesting to see this footage. When I was studying engineering this was already an old concept years back. I saw all kinds of photos in the trades, but never saw it actually fly until now.

It's old technology, but it looks like it's been perfected enough to incorporate it into present generation aircraft. Future fighters will be radically different.

[UnlimitedRC]

Fighter jet fanboys...from a fellow aviation enthusiast, stop arguing over what you think is best as if you're on some sort of payroll and just appreciate the technology.

[isezgz]

a. Shoot backwards

b. Why dogfighting? shoot from a distance

c. Far too complicated landings

[wntu4]

"b. Why dogfighting? shoot from a distance"

We (the US) have already been through this...When the USAF/Navy stopped teaching dogfighting the kill ratio dropped way off in Vietnam. We established Top Gun and Red Flag (USAF) to teach these skills, and the kill ratio immediately went back up.

[isezgz]

well todays fighting has nothing to do with the Vietnam era fighting i think.. there simply wasn't the tecnology back then.

The only way dogfights will happen is between two "invisible" airplanes, so when US enemies use them thrust vectoring and good trainning will be very useful i agree

[uhmidk7]

a. not gonna happen anytime soon

b. what if your out of long range missiles? or your going up against a stealth and your missle dont lock on him

c. ..............well yeah........

[VersionCookie2000]

Vectored thrust wont matter when you've been shot down BVR by a stealthed UAV.

[piwright42]

But that UAV will benefit from having thrust vectored technology developed on this manned X-plane. Besides within months of the selection of the F-35 the press had already said that it and the F-22 could be the last of the manned US fighters.

[VersionCookie2000]

ahh. that makes more sense. touche

[piwright42]

Thank you, even the Brits are going to the US for UCAV tech.

[toofanii]

"Radical new system"... ? The chinese did this design 8 years ago. So did the russians.

[jjs4you2]

The X-31 was first tested out at Edwards AFB, about 20 years ago, it was stationed at NASA's Dryden Research Center across the runway from Edwards Air Force base around 1990 to 1998.

This video was probably from 2000/01 when the program shifted to the other side of the U.S. to Patuxent River Naval Air Station in Maryland.

The pioneering was done at Dryden by NASA with the X-31 in the early 90's, not when this video was taken, and well before the Russians or Chinese, by about 10 years.

[jjs4you2]

When this video was produced in 2000/01 they had shifted the X-31 project from super maneuverability at Dryden to short take off and landing at Patuxent River.

[sakoshooter48]

Sure they did! God, get off of your cloud sonny, you are messed up in the head! The Russians and the Chinese aren't even in the same league as we are. Just look at eh F-15's kill ratio, 127-0. And from a 1960's era designed fighter. Hmmmmm, makes ya kinda wonder doesn't it?

[MegaBrits]

When they eventually fit TV to the later Eurofighter it will be utterly superb and pretty much an X-31D.

German + British tech eh... Superb.

As in Vietnam, the biggest fear of any fighter pilot was when you didn't fight their fight they were trained for (Oh why have I no machine guns, there is a MIG-15)

So the guy who saw you regardless of your stealth will now stuff you in your F-22 which is built like a battleship.

Q) How did TV start? A) Harriers TV nozzles + the idea of VIFF.

[piwright42]

The Eurofighter is an incredible plane, and a 2D thrust vectoring system would enhance it's agility considerably. But when RAF exchange pilot Lt. Dan Robinson begrudgingly says that the F-22 is the most capable fighter in the world there is a reason. The F-22 is not the fastest, nor is it the most maneuverable, but it has the best mix of these and other, (as yet unquantified), traits. As for you Vietnam analogy the F-4's loss ratio dropped off quick once a gun pod was added.

[gherzrinfk]

It would be a 3D trust vectoring nozzle.

(am I allowed to post link?, just search google for "TVN" and "eurofighter")

I wouldn't be surprised if a potential japanese eurofighter was to be equipped with it if the US keeps on laying hard to get with the F-22..

[piwright42]

The source I used for my prior statement must have been outdated. Thanks for the tip. The new nozzel is more along the lines of the MATV style used on a F-15 test bed, although the mounting rings of the EF are more sophisticated. I doubt the Japanese will get an F-22. The Japanese are getting ready to take over their own air defence and the US is getting nervous about how easy it is to steal tech in the new global economy. There is already legislation against export of the F-22.

[gherzrinfk]

There's a nice video of the F-16 MATV (watch?v=rt3neRLquDI) for those wondering what we are talking about.

About japans fighter project (they work with Lockheed Martin on that one) the thrust vectoring on the prototype looks a lot like the one on the x-31

(watch?v=jRPlnT-PD0A)

[piwright42]

While Japan will take more responsibilty of their air defense, they will still enjoy American assistance in this mission. If a squadron of F-22's is based in Japan then the Japanese need for their own stealth superiority fighter will be reduced. This will allow them to focus on a pure dogfighter. I am glad that Japan sees the continued merit of the F-16 concept and used it as a base for a super version. It will be interesting to see where their inovation will take their future fighters.

[sakoshooter48]

Although the Harrier WAS an interesting jet 40 years ago, it is now about as relevant as a square wheel. It is very amusing reading all of your posts when most of you are underage, underemployed, and certainly don't work in the field of aviation. Come back after you have your 25-30 years in and we will discuss the merits of the F-22, the Su-35-37 series, and some of the other main force fighters that will appear on the scenes in the next several years. In the end the B-747 will even the

[sakoshooter48]

field and relegate most of these interesting technical masterpieces to nothing more than scarce commodities. Already the future of aerial warfare is changing and the US has a three to four generation lead on everyone else, and they don't even realize the game has changed. Mark my words, the penultimate fighter at this moment is the F-22, argue and bluster if you must, but it is one of the most awe inspiring aircraft that has ever been conceived. And its kool that I helped to build it!

[sirnicholson]

lol the f 22 was old news when you guys were arguing about it lmao

[annihil8ted]

yeah but im 90% sure that due to finacial problem.

[FanFisique]

American PLANE???

Sorry retard, this is German technology by Daimler Benz...NASA obtained xperience to help to build the F22 crappy raptor project...(remember...almost 10 years crashing prototypes before delivering mediocrecy..)

By the way...the current leaders in thrust vectoring are Russians: MIG-29 (OTV) OR SU-37..

[ArmYkiCkAzz]

ok then why is the raptor the best fighter jet in the world? man fuck germany and russia

[DannyZRC]

it was a joint development by Rockwell and MBB (Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm), but don't let that ruin your ignorance. Many further companies were involved after the program was restarted as the VECTOR program.

[FanFisique]

This technology that was developed by NASA and EADS, actually was aplied into the development of the EUROFIGHTER...

MBB is a fully owned company of Daimler Aerospace wich actually forms part of EADS.

Rockwell is actually Boeing, an active part of the F22 Consortium: BAE, BOEING, LOCKHEED-MARTIN.

GET UR FACTS STRAIGHT FUCKTARD.

[DannyZRC]

Daimler Aerospace AG bought MBB in 1989, mid program on the X-31.

Boeing purchased Rockwell aerospace in 1996. After the initial X-31 program was concluded.

nice try, but please watch your language.

it's sad to see, this comment campaign against the raptor fueled purely by anti-american sentiment.

the Typhoon is a good ship, but it's very clearly optimized for GCI and air defense, it doesn't truck the fuel necessary for OCA or AI

[piwright42]

"almost 10 years crashing prototypes before delivering mediocrecy"

I'm a little confused here I can only remember one crash of YF-22 prototype. I can't for the life of me find anything about the F-22 production craft crashing. I don't know but one pre-production crash speaks well of the fighters development. As I recall in 2002 a prototype Typhoon crashed after an engine failure. I guess it's just like in racing where if you don't crash once in a while, you are not pushing the envelope.

[annihil8ted]

hey wasnt the f35 program canceled and marked as a failure????

[MouseFX]

theres thrust vectoring mig-29

[truthspeaker969]

"theres thrust vectoring mig-29"

not only mig 29, much others too,

like the MIG-35, the SU-30, the SU-35, the planned SU-50/Pak FA and the EF-Typhoon,

the X-31 was an mixed american-german project and the results has been integrated in the engineering of the F-22 and the EF.

the su-47 had vector thrust, too btw, so the F35 would not have an advantage...

[2254859236]

my great yncle is chuck yeager

[KARENTHESTALKER]

And its only mach 1.3 muhahahaha

[sethcat99]

thank you cowboy beebop.

[KARENTHESTALKER]

To bad americans have run out of money 4 this thing..

[GREYMANTIS7]

We have the new TR-3Chameleon and smaller TR-3Drogonfly, both are mach-50 craft. They let you see only antiques for the masses.

[iambac]

you retard America doesn't run out of money

[rEEZEErB]

watch?v=CIdvSQB2dP4

[Kirilltraceur]

The why don't Russian planes have a limit of attack angles- i have seen the SU-35 do a backflip....

[rtrThanos]

... Um, I'm not sure what you mean by "backflip," because just about any plane can do it. If by "backflip" you mean the Kulbit manuever, then no I have never seen an SU-35 do it, and no one else on the planet has because it isn't capable of it. I've seen the F-22 do it, along with the Mig29OVT, SU-33, SU-37, and variants of SU-30. The SU-47 and F-15 ACTIVE should be able to, but I've never seen it. If you saw the SU-35 do it, then it wasn't public, and never made public. So, you're lying.

[annihil8ted]

yeah sorry to burst all of your bubble and im american too and chinese, but the russians have always dominated in planes. they just have budget and resource problems.

[twinoceans]

uhh...bullshit!

[Kirilltraceur]

too bad Russia already HAS 3d Thrust vectoring in their actual planes- not experimental )))

[rtrThanos]

Russia only relatively recently "HAS" thrust vectoring. Let's keep in mind that the Harrier is technically a thrust-vectoring plane, and it has been around for quite some time. Also, the F-15 ACTIVE made it's first flight in 1988. On behalf of the USA, I would like to welcome Russia to the 21st century! CONGRATS ON YOUR NEW VIFF-CAPABLE AIRCRAFT. P.S. GJ kicking those stupid Georgian asses! What the hell were they thinking, attacking Russian citizens?!?

[MediaNKinG18]

f-18 harv came before in 1987 lol

[Capt777harris]

F/A-18, if I recall, was first developed as the F-17 in the late 60s.

[MediaNKinG18]

no no i mean f-18 HARV high angle of attack

[Capt777harris]

My bad. You're right about the HARV.

[Kirilltraceur]

watch?v=9weHUIoMEao

[twinoceans]

I'm not gonna try those links out, because probably I already seen them. They are all great planes, no doubt. As for your comment about Russia has them in actual plane. It's all about decision, the US military considered it not nessasary to install them in this age of Beyond Visual Range Engagement, while Russia needs to sell plane, so any new upgrades, they call it a different plane.

[iambac]

Thats funny Russia planes suck compared to the US we dominate the sky and always will

[annihil8ted]

not nessesary. Like i said, russia has always better planes and ideas, they just suffer financially. Their planes already has supermaneuverbility on almost all of them, We only have it on some and are still testing. Also, they have the biggest bomb. do we???

[sakoshooter48]

You are an idiot! What have they dominated, the propaganda battle you seemed to have sucked on. Please elaborate from your vast aviation experience. I'm sure that the US fighter command has a job waiting for you right now. Lets see F-15 127 kills, Migs and assorted O. Ya, you go buy those Russian targets, because that is all you are going to be!

[shanonobanion]

"Beyond the rules of aerodynamics " what an utterly stupid phrase. The plane is just as subject to physics as everything else in the universe, including planes. Cool Plane!!!

[FanFisique]

American PLANE???

Sorry retard, this is German technology by Daimler Benz...NASA obtained xperience to help to build the F22 crappy raptor project...(remember...almost 10 years of crashes before deliver)

By the way...actually the leaders in thrust vectoring are Russians.

[twinoceans]

This plane is a joint venture. If it's German, then f-35 is british.

As for Russia leaders of Thrust Vector, ullshit! US achieved 360 degree thrust vector in the early 90's with modified f-16, while Russia had their first test with 360' thrust vectoring in 2008 with the su-35BM.

[annihil8ted]

notice i said leaders in plane, not thrut vectoring dumbfuck. and russians arent bad in that either.

[twinoceans]

No, you're the dumbfuck, that message wasn't for you, dumbass! My message for you was below it.

[annihil8ted]

w/e i dont have time to waste talking to lowlife like you.

[twinoceans]

The why the heck replying to me at all!? This is what I call "running away from an arguement with dignity bullshit," haha. YOu call me an lowlife, and the evidence for that? I'm up for insults as long as you can back them up with evidence, but bashing mindlessly is the stuff done by the ignorants, so you are more than welcomed to demonstrate your nature.

[GorgStoffs]

STOP ARGUING.

[stealthyf23]

I didn't argue, only discussed. I never did any mindless bash agianst russian planes. I actually made a point earlier that they are indeed great planes. Cheer!

[Kirilltraceur]

watch?v=9weHUIoMEao thats 3d- they hade that on migs 29s.... and SU-30s.... so yeah

[twinoceans]

Yeah, mig 29 and su 30 only had 2-d thrust vector, and their angle of vectoring is only 15 degree, and they came up with it (around 2000) way after America achieved 3-d and 360 degree thrust vector with the x-31 and f-16 MATV (around 1991).

[iambac]

You are a looser America hatter your country wouldn't exist if we hadn't saved you twice

[alphafour]

wait the harrier this technology already doesnt it? and that means the technology's been around at least since malvenas aka falklands which is '82!

[bedeone]

harrier uses it's exhaust to thrust down, it directs it back up in flight for vertical thrust.

[Danno57]

Fancy that, a german in a us plane

[swisstestpilot]

it was a jont venture between US and German Gov, Air Forces and Induustrie (Rockwell USA and MBB Germany , the first  of the US X planes who is on international base.. but. Thiis X-plane is overrune from the time If you pay enoughe money you get the Sukhoi (27 family) jets and MIG-29 (OTV) with trust vector nozzels complet and ready for use.

[superafterburner]

F-22 Raptor has been doing thrust vectoring for years...

[RCReview]

Only up and down though.

[benbarel]

The American f-35 is better, from the 5th generation with great profit, and it is also more frugal..

[RCReview]

It's a VTOL aircraft though.

[appa609]

this thing is more manueverable, but the f-35 is an actual combat aircraft, unless you were refering to rhe x-35

[F22coleman]

Theres no way that you can say that Russia and American planes don't all have something in common eith one another and honestly mean it with out looking at the facts

[F22coleman]

You know, I just put the two together but, look at the X-29 and Su-47 but them side by side see the similarities? Now out this plane next to the proposed mig-1.44 design, coincidence? I think not, I will put up a link in a day for a site with the comparison for both planes

[SFLegacy]

no similarities, no coincidence the airframes are so different, the forward swept wing concept was proposed long in 1930s, NASA and russians were working on forward swept wing planes throught cold war, the only thing X-29 has in common with su-47 is the idea of forward swept wing.

[F22coleman]

Well I just learned that you tube won't let you post links but, you got to admit there are some physical similarities between the X-29 and the Su-47 look at the canard structures, the same forward swept wing design, minorly diffrerent nose, intakes on the sides, and its not only these planes I know that the Mig-25 was made from the A-5 Avenger (similarities) and the F-15 was made the Couterract the Mig-25 (similarities) and the Su-27 was made the counteract the F-15 (similarities)

[piwright42]

I think the similarities are because the machines are designed to do similar things, you know form follows function. Side mounted intakes are common from the British Vampire, to the Foxbat to the F-35. All Forward Swept Wing, (FSW), aircraft feature canards. This is because FSW's are intended to prevent high alpha stall. At high angles of attack FSW's do not lose air flow over the outer wing controls. Canards help the plane to rotate from high alpha back to level flight faster than a tail does.

[technoswitch]

Mig-29 OVT owns...

[grigoridj]

the mig 29ovt is agiler... i guess.

[appa609]

Oh by the way, "agiler isn't a word, I guess."

[yaplakalvid]

LOL

copied from the migs. :)

[PrinzEugn]

The X-31 first flew it 1990, so no.

[fpere006]

yeah the X-31, F-15 Active and F-16 VISTA pionered thurst vectoring

[RevealT]

of all fighters, MIG-23 is the most beautiful breed, what do you say?

[PrinzEugn]

I like the early MiG-31 the best of the Russian fighters.

[fpere006]

I like how the 29 looks myself

[RevealT]

thanks both of you!

[Tube4Christ]

Thrust Vectoring is the ability of the engine nozzles to move independently from the rest of the aircraft. Thus allowing it to turn and manuver much much better then fixed nozzle air craft. Since the pilot can now direct the flow of thrust on a dime with advanced controls.

[RevealT]

What is thrust vectoring? Could you please give a brief technical explanation?

[ecyor0]

Basically, you control where the engine thrust goes using movable flaps/vents, giving you a lot more agility (imagine how fast a jumbo jet could roll if you could swivel one set of engines to turn up and the other set to turn down and you get an idea of the effect of thrust vectoring)

[KosherCutie]

cooool video!!! I love all of them, i dont know enough to know what' better etc... They are all exciting and powerful to me :) Love it!!

[israeliforever89]

I hope Israel will make something like this for the f-35A.

[bittemeinrammstein]

israel is too poor... realying on US money to stay afloat witch is soon to be non-existant... plus the US bras already said israel is going to fall soon and wont recover

[RevealT]

u r right! massive american alms keep zionists going.

[Octopi1]

We spend quadruple in a month of Iraq than on help for Israel annually. That's 3 billion annually, and that's it. The Israelis have a 13 billion annual military budget, not including municipal and everything else budgets. They also give us lots of our advanced computer stuff we say makes us "BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE!" Oh yes, another thing, Israel isn't even all jewish, there are lots of Europeans/Americans/Arabs there too.

[RevealT]

OH YES! only to loot Iraqi Oil.

Everything has been made free and open for foreigners to ...uck and enjoy leaving for Iraqis!!!

Not only Jews bur there are CHRISTIAN Zionists as well like Bush, Blari, Cheney, etc. Also Muslim Zionists like Hosni, Saudi, Kuwaiti, Jordanians!

[Octopi1]

Ummmm....no....we have Saudi Arabia and Kuwait for oil already....Iraqs oil logistics were basically annihilated when the US/Coalition arrived. And lol, your theories are hilarious. We arrived for WMDs since he was openly saying to his neighbors "I HAVE WMDS! FEAR ME!" and since we had just had 9/11 a couple years before (like barely 1 actually?) so yes, we didn't wanna find out if he was bluffing or not.

[subprime2006]

Octopi1: I am an American and I do believe the U.S went to Iraq because of OIL. Saddam Hussein was killing us by trading his oil in Euro.