Dk's tanking debuff's are applied through their diseases, frost fever=atk speed reduction, scarlet plaque=atk power reduction I had to look into this as well cause I wondered why all the dk tanks wouldnt have such awesome tools. Also a bear spec makes skull bash(interupt) a 10sec cd
i cannot concurr more on your evaluations, as a pally it sucks cos you do not have as much control on your toon , warrior has it. the pally class plays the game for you,simply boring.
I play a warrior tank, but trying to get gear now suks. I have every best in slot from heroics and a few raids but people still won't risk bringing you because you gearscrore isn't 5700+. However playing a warrior is always fun and keeps you busy.
lol kinda disappointed i just made a dk tank i don't really know what to choose in the talent trees i have seen that blood is which works better as mitigation and agro actually frost spec makes me like WTF i really need advices its so disappointed this is my second dk but my frist dk i made it before the last patches and it was much better holding agro than now it was frost but now i made this one and i had to go blood tho still i'm kinda confused it sucks WTF BLIZZARD ????? !!!!!!!!
I am new to tanking... I have a DK tank and i have great guild that allows me to put their lives at risk as I gain experience... I like DK tanking (i have a lower lvl pally) as it is very 'active" and it keeps me on my toes... i think that the dk have a lot of utility in a tanking situation... I would have to say that dk probably make better OT that MT... just my opinion... i plan to lvl a tank of each class because I am really enjoying being the center of attention lol keep posting vids thanks!
Have you seen the new Cataclysm tree they set up for Pallies yet? I keep trying to set up what i feel will be a good setup for it and it's feeling.. rather difficult.
Oh come on, I was really hoping for some lingerie here :D
Very nice information, and exactly the same ranking as I have. I switched to warrior some time now and you're completely spot on.
However, some notes: Just like druids, paladins miss a reliable interrupt too (unless I'm totally missing something), HoJustice is on a long CD (for an interrupt, even when talented) and on the GCD, if you're horde you have arcane torrent but that's on a 2m CD so not that reliable either...
@Horvarthisness You, like a lot of paladin tanks, are forgetting the god given gift that is Holy Wrath. Probably won't be as useful come Cataclysm as it is now, but is better than sex in a lot of ICC content. Useful in other situations too, add tanking on Anub, for example.
@Zbrandoz The 5% health buff only applies to base health, and it's extremely small. Warstomp is cool but is a cast and you are undefended while casting. Orcs provice a little bit more offensive firepower, but not alot.
Personally, I suggest whatever looks cooler in plate.
I personally play a warrior tank and feral alt tank but i don't understand why you say dk's take more dmg? I mean druids can only dodge atks and personally in icc i find my druid to be much more squishy than my warrior. For example on my warrior i can 1 man the beginning trash even in 25man, but on my druid ive tried having aggro on all mobs and i take massive hits, sometimes dieing
@silverstonewebcam while druids can only dodge, they do have a much higher dodge % than other tanks, generally equal to a plate tank's parry/dodge. The downside is that thier savage defense, while awesome on a single target, is horrible on trash compared to shield based tanks. However, you have barkskin that you can be using often to help mitigate a lot of the damage. Also, a druids armor does not scale as well as plate tanks stack +armor gear in ICC, so they need heavy armor trinkets to balance
@drz197 True, my druid has 21% dodge after the nerf and about 25% dodge while my idol is proced, my warrior after the nerf has 8% dodge, about 23% parry and about 20% block
Awesome video, you're incredibly knowledgeable. I'm my guild's off-tank as a paladin and the main tank is a DK. He's insanely good and makes my job so much easier, especially because my gear isnt great and i only have about 5300"GS". However he does have 50k unbuffed hp and we raid with the 25% buff so the problems you mentioned are a little less severe for us, but I failed at DK tanking myself so I know for a fact you were right about it. IMO a skilled and geared player can make a good dk.
Dk's tanking debuff's are applied through their diseases, frost fever=atk speed reduction, scarlet plaque=atk power reduction I had to look into this as well cause I wondered why all the dk tanks wouldnt have such awesome tools. Also a bear spec makes skull bash(interupt) a 10sec cd
joshehutch 1 month ago
prot warrior FTW!
RelaxGodfolk 1 year ago
i cannot concurr more on your evaluations, as a pally it sucks cos you do not have as much control on your toon , warrior has it. the pally class plays the game for you,simply boring.
sushanalone 1 year ago
Warriors FTW, indeed
SelfProclaimedGamer 1 year ago
From the info out atm. What tank are you /drooling over in the cata push to 85?
EMCFAQ123 1 year ago
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12markinlove12 1 year ago
I play a warrior tank, but trying to get gear now suks. I have every best in slot from heroics and a few raids but people still won't risk bringing you because you gearscrore isn't 5700+. However playing a warrior is always fun and keeps you busy.
J0RDSKI 1 year ago
lol kinda disappointed i just made a dk tank i don't really know what to choose in the talent trees i have seen that blood is which works better as mitigation and agro actually frost spec makes me like WTF i really need advices its so disappointed this is my second dk but my frist dk i made it before the last patches and it was much better holding agro than now it was frost but now i made this one and i had to go blood tho still i'm kinda confused it sucks WTF BLIZZARD ????? !!!!!!!!
demonhordelock7 1 year ago
I am new to tanking... I have a DK tank and i have great guild that allows me to put their lives at risk as I gain experience... I like DK tanking (i have a lower lvl pally) as it is very 'active" and it keeps me on my toes... i think that the dk have a lot of utility in a tanking situation... I would have to say that dk probably make better OT that MT... just my opinion... i plan to lvl a tank of each class because I am really enjoying being the center of attention lol keep posting vids thanks!
jermean 1 year ago
Have you seen the new Cataclysm tree they set up for Pallies yet? I keep trying to set up what i feel will be a good setup for it and it's feeling.. rather difficult.
TheNoobExperiment 1 year ago
i chose to be dk tank for 1 reason..... the badass skill names :P
death and decay
blood boil
vampiric blood
dark command
death grip
and also it's cool to see a tank tanking a huge ass boss with a 2 handed axe and no shield :P
black19940 1 year ago
Oh come on, I was really hoping for some lingerie here :D
Very nice information, and exactly the same ranking as I have. I switched to warrior some time now and you're completely spot on.
However, some notes: Just like druids, paladins miss a reliable interrupt too (unless I'm totally missing something), HoJustice is on a long CD (for an interrupt, even when talented) and on the GCD, if you're horde you have arcane torrent but that's on a 2m CD so not that reliable either...
Horvarthisness 1 year ago
@Horvarthisness
continued: The warrior speed debuff remove skill is Intervene I presume? or am I missing a skill?
Kinda forgot the other stuff. Good vid as always, keep it up.
Horvarthisness 1 year ago
@Horvarthisness yes, intervine
drz197 1 year ago
@Horvarthisness This is true. The main reason I didn't say it was due to time constraints.
drz197 1 year ago
@Horvarthisness You, like a lot of paladin tanks, are forgetting the god given gift that is Holy Wrath. Probably won't be as useful come Cataclysm as it is now, but is better than sex in a lot of ICC content. Useful in other situations too, add tanking on Anub, for example.
Sathilan 1 year ago
@Zbrandoz I completely agree with drz197, as usual, take whatever looks coolest because you'll be spending a lot of time looking at your own butt ;)
(I'm a troll warrior tank btw, I just chose it because it's fairly rare and I like that :) )
Horvarthisness 1 year ago
@Zbrandoz The 5% health buff only applies to base health, and it's extremely small. Warstomp is cool but is a cast and you are undefended while casting. Orcs provice a little bit more offensive firepower, but not alot.
Personally, I suggest whatever looks cooler in plate.
drz197 1 year ago
dk's WILL get a atp debuff in cata
kolly864 1 year ago
@kolly864 Yes, yes they do. Right now it looks like it will be through blood boil improved by talents
drz197 1 year ago
I personally play a warrior tank and feral alt tank but i don't understand why you say dk's take more dmg? I mean druids can only dodge atks and personally in icc i find my druid to be much more squishy than my warrior. For example on my warrior i can 1 man the beginning trash even in 25man, but on my druid ive tried having aggro on all mobs and i take massive hits, sometimes dieing
silverstonewebcam 1 year ago
@silverstonewebcam while druids can only dodge, they do have a much higher dodge % than other tanks, generally equal to a plate tank's parry/dodge. The downside is that thier savage defense, while awesome on a single target, is horrible on trash compared to shield based tanks. However, you have barkskin that you can be using often to help mitigate a lot of the damage. Also, a druids armor does not scale as well as plate tanks stack +armor gear in ICC, so they need heavy armor trinkets to balance
drz197 1 year ago
@drz197 True, my druid has 21% dodge after the nerf and about 25% dodge while my idol is proced, my warrior after the nerf has 8% dodge, about 23% parry and about 20% block
silverstonewebcam 1 year ago
Great vid as always. btw what software do you use to record your ingame videos?
DieselEngine32 1 year ago
@DieselEngine32 Ingame I use fraps to get the raw data.
Outside of the game I use Sony Vegas 9.0 as my editor.
drz197 1 year ago
toybull is the best Shaman tank!!! :D sup caine!!
oskrbull 1 year ago
@oskrbull Hope your coming back soon crazy!
drz197 1 year ago
i want supreme commander 2 vids !!! :D
ed0u4rd 1 year ago
lmao "OH SHIT WHAT THE FUCK AM I GONNA CHOOSE!"
BadAzzPally 1 year ago
Since you have a tank class comparison, could you do a Healing class comparison.
Shaman , Priest, Druid, Paladin. PLZ PLZ PLZ ! ! !
~HeavenlyStyx
Smi1e4me23 1 year ago
@Smi1e4me23 ALSO Very good post, thx for the video and taking the time to make it
Smi1e4me23 1 year ago
@Smi1e4me23 I don't know anything about healing. It would be like describing color to a blind man.
drz197 1 year ago
@drz197 lol ok well, thank you for your honesty, do you know any videos or people that you would recommend that would give me some insight
Smi1e4me23 1 year ago
you said DK tanks don't have an atk buff??? uhh we have abominations might
onionmann 1 year ago
@onionmann attack DEBUFF, such as demo shout
drz197 1 year ago
Awesome video, you're incredibly knowledgeable. I'm my guild's off-tank as a paladin and the main tank is a DK. He's insanely good and makes my job so much easier, especially because my gear isnt great and i only have about 5300"GS". However he does have 50k unbuffed hp and we raid with the 25% buff so the problems you mentioned are a little less severe for us, but I failed at DK tanking myself so I know for a fact you were right about it. IMO a skilled and geared player can make a good dk.
BeatlesFan32 1 year ago
HAVE AT IT!!!!!
orangerabbit99 1 year ago
Thats kinda how I feel about paladins, my main is a paladin tank.
Hopefully in Cata they make them more distinct, and you can tell the good from bad.
davidxdelirious 1 year ago
@davidxdelirious If it's any constellation (spelling?), I can tell good tankadins from bad ones ;)
Used to do the cleansing on Rotface, healers will love you ;)
Horvarthisness 1 year ago
@Horvarthisness are you calling me a bad tank because I dont call them tankadins lol?
davidxdelirious 1 year ago
Drood for life.
pain128 1 year ago
I love my DK tank
link1340000 1 year ago
Grrr you Druids, stealing my gear :(.
miniled 1 year ago
Very informative.
ptbaconway 1 year ago