Wagner Siegfried - Forest murmurs

[inminentefinal]

«There, in the big rock with fire, is a women. You must to kill here. Or marriage...»

[devilxhlywood]

received tweet: " yo, just saw a hot bitch named brunhilde chillin' up on a hill. step to her if you got the balls."

[Nineteen58Fury]

pure beauty

[DesAbends]

Copied from Liszt's Waldesrauschen.

[carpathicus]

@DesAbends Actually Liszt copied Wagner - Wagner had already written (but not orchestrated the music to the act 2 of Siegfried 6 or 7 years before Liszt's Waldesrauschen.

[alldaytubin]

I think this is about as good as it gets. Very moving music.

[raticida123456]

esta pieza es compleja, es moderna pero lo mas importante es que es bella y sincera.. tiene el olor humilde, con las cosas mas serias e imponentes como en el minuto 6:28 y cosas tan delicadas comod e niño, y cosas de gran sabio maestro.. el mago, el humano, el niño.. todo junto.. el aprendio enormemente de los grandes maestros del pasado y no solo bach, mozart, beethoven y etc.. sino aprendio desde muchisimo antes!! desde la cultura griega..

[jazzpsalti]

one of my favorites... one of my tunes up, "arctangent," owes itself entirely to this piece

[fedka86]

I think I can understand what the bird in singing...Tell me, little bird, who do I have to kill next?

[IrishClaudius]

@fedka86 No the bird is telling him where he can find a friend its the mythological version of on line dating....;-)

[MrJoshuaHaines]

This is, in my opinion, Wagner's most imaginative excerpt. It alerts the mind and lets you imagination run free.

[poopinmymouthilikeit]

god.... hot shit.

the beginning of this piece sounds a lot like the score they used in the new batman movies for his theme.

wagner's the man

[IrishClaudius]

@poopinmymouthilikeit all the best TV and movie music is from Wagner and in Hollywood from captin blood to star wars and Star Trek!!

[morvensky]

Thank you. I am trying to get more familiar with Wagner. But it seems like I am more of Brahmsian than a Wagnerite.

[IrishClaudius]

@morvensky In his early years Brahms wanted a musical revolution too listen to his 1st piano concerto it is more advanced than Wagner...

[azoriusherald]

@IrishClaudius You sure about that?

[IrishClaudius]

@azoriusherald what is there to disagree with?

[azoriusherald]

@IrishClaudius Wagner's sense of counterpoint is, as far as I understand, very advanced. While I admit to knowing nothing about the compositional techniques used in the piano concerto, any statement that a piece is "more advanced" than Wagner would require a bit of effort to prove. Especially since the claim seems to be that the concerto is more advanced than any of Wagner's many innovative ideas.

[IrishClaudius]

@azoriusherald There are places in Wagner that are as advanced as Schoenberg - listen to the harmony of Guturne waiting for Seigfred's return in Gotterdammerunng act 3. We can hear -briefly the harmony of Erwartung - Now listen to the opening of Brahms 1st piano concerto it shares it harmony with sections of Bartok's concerto for Orchestra - 1944. They are both Gothic masterpieces.

[carpathicus]

@IrishClaudius Not to take anything away from the great Brahms, but that is very naive! The truth is they both admired each other's music and in fact the music of each one of them contains even some "references" to the other's! The funny thing is Brahms even worked for Wagner once - as he helped copy some of the orchestral parts of Meistersingers for some concerts. Afterwards he joked saying that some would now call him a "Wagnerite".

[IrishClaudius]

@carpathicus Well you would say that wouldn't you but I think it is more about what we both see as "modern" and what can be seen as part of "modernity" - modern in music ususally means advaced harmony I meant the word in terms of modernity - ie advanced culturally - a representation of cultural ideas that Schuman expoused - remember the Romantic is not about pastroal sunshine it also about the gothic and the austre and what out there moving about in the night.

[carpathicus]

@IrishClaudius Ha! It seems to me you imagine Wagner's music to be "about pastoral sunshine"!! That couldn't be further from the truth! Listen to the whole Ring! The entire thing not just fragments! Listen to Tristan! Again, the whole thing, not just the prelude! Many passages in that are as modern as you can get! The corruption of power, envy, etc. And some of it as gothic and austhere as you can get!

[IrishClaudius]

@carpathicus yes and you should read all of my posts before commenting see particually what I say about the gothic and Schoenberg and Ewartung and Guturne above.

[neptunisregis11]

@IrishClaudius Human nature never changes. Humans were always evil, and today they remain evil. Humans strive to create the illusion of goodness about themselves. But of course, it is only an illusion, we continue to be wild beasts cloaked in a veneer of civility.

[IrishClaudius]

@neptunisregis11 we produce human nature and we have been chaning sometimes for the better sometimes for the worse it deepends on who has the power and what they want do do with it.

If you are a depressed you don't want to do anything any way but if you live in Cairo and are young woman you want change - change for the better Richard Wagner believed that too.

[IrishClaudius]

@neptunisregis11 you are confusing art with life. the reason why we have the ring is because of revolution (1848) you also forget Wagner's ideal of the feminine is close to Ibsen's in that they both saw woman as a sign of great social change and upheval - with the possible acception of Puccni no artist has written for women the wagner has where the woman dominates the whole work and that was revolutionary in its day.

[IrishClaudius]

@carpathicus you are right would 100% agree but see my most recent post but one.

[earthatic]

You are uploading so much Wagner! I am thankful for that though, because I am a big fan of his music and always love to listen to amazing pieces like this by him!