metabolic syndrome is basically cauesed by one thing, malnutrition, low fat diets and sun avoidance leads to low intakes of vita d, e, k, and calcium. glucose intolerance leads to proliferation of fat cells to handle the excess glucose that is not being used by the body cells due to not having the nutrients to handle glucose glucose is toxic without these nutrients so the cell protects itself. glucose stays to long in blood leads to severe glycation and damage to proteins.
sorry I couldn't go on. this video is so full of flaws, innuendos and statisical bias I can't stand it . there is a reason your body stores nutrients as saturated fats, they are more resistant to free radicals and oxidation. polys are so oxidative you can only eat them fresh. if you eat 338 extra caloires per day you gain 34 pounds a year, yet who gained 34 pounds in a year? I Never seen it, drink a pop per day gain 10 pounds a year, never did gain one extra pound doing that.
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Finally! More scientists who agree and expand on Lustig, Taubes, Yudkin, Atkins and can put a nail in the super low fat/ hign carb coffin... we need more of them on here...
She starts with the Keys study - where he cherry-picked his data, and ignored outliers, such as Innuit & Polynesians who eat diets with VERY high sat fat. A bad start. Then she cites studies which are observational, and not experimental. If you want a different interpretation of those studies - google "fat head movie."
One other note - she emphasizes that when one overeats, excess calories in the form of fat are ostensibly easier to store. But what if you're not "overeating"?
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It is the twenty country study that is hysterical. The correlation coefficient looks good and may be weighted by a couple of outliers but if you look at the graph, there is absolutely no predictive value for most of the points. It's right in front of her eyes that the correlation is poor. Statistics is our servant not our master. She does have excellent English and I would love to hear her describe how a black object is actually white.
@ProfFeinman Did you only watch the first 30 seconds or something? Quit acting like you're hot shit when you don't even know what she's talking about.
@ProfFeinman Dude - if you are a professor and jump to firm conclusions before you have reviewed the evidence in front of you (in this case, her lecture) then I pity any students you might have.
@Orionsaru Quite right. Every possibility that rest of her talk makes sense. Should have spelled out review of evidence but others got it: whatever the statistical significance, 20-countries is meaningless -- look at level of SF for the US that she emphasizes: the outcome values are all over the place. Also, isn't it R^2 that accounts for % variance? My students are encouraged to question what I say including above. First 5 minutes so seriously in error that can't see why I should hear rest.
people should watch the entire program before jumping to conclusions. just watching the first few minutes of the presentation can lead to mistaken assumptions about what she is leading up to.
It's obvious that many of the commenters only watched the first 5-15 minutes or so. She is NOT blindly supporting a low fat diet. This complements Robert Lustig's talk quite nicely (he is the first person she thanks at the end of the talk) and provides a good overview of the science and some good advice for those interested in weight loss.
@qocweb It is what happens when uneducated people listen to an academic lecture, the lack of soundbites and use of precise language leads to confusion.
E.g. her statement about fats being easier to convert suddenly becomes 'fats are bad', when instead it was part of her showing how the early low-fat diets were reasoned. And she doesn't really give any real indication of what conclusion she's reached until at least half-way in the video.
@RakshasaCat I'm an academic and reasonably well-educated. If you don't "really give any real indication of what conclusion she's reached until at least half-way in the video" that is a serious fault in academic presentations and if the beginning is faulty as in other comments, then you have to fix it, if you want people to hang in there for you main point.
@qocweb I only watched the first 5 minutes of her talk but it is so erroneous (described above and by others) that there is no reason to keep watching. Lustig's YouTube is not a model of scientific accuracy -- some of what he says is true, some is false, some is blatantly wrong, e.g. fructose does provide glycogen.
There are a lot of folks walking around and talking about what we should and shouldn't eat. Unfortunately research in this field is always flawed because there are too many variables and no way to completely control the study. Nonetheless, if folks want to eat a high fat, meat based diet its there choice. It does seem to me that there is enough evidence from various sources to conclude a plant-based diet is better for one's health than eating animal flesh and fat and eating dairy and eggs.
Very informative, and most importantly - for me - fairly easy to grasp and understand. And the Harvard Food Group chart at the end of her lecture, makes her talk, picture perfect.
I am so angry with people like this lady - how long has mankind been walking the earth? Just about 100,000 years or so. How long have we been eating saturated fats? She's rediculous!
Wow. 5 minutes in and she's already hit my skeptic button. The 7 countries study by Ancel Keyes has been so widely debunked as to be barely considered science. Then on the 20 country study she points out Japan which is an extreme statistical outlier and ignores France and Switzerland which aren't (or at least less so) and which also refute her premise about saturated fat being the culprit of heart disease. Bad science.
This woman is completely misinterpreting this information. Fat is stored ONLY when it is consumed when you eat it with carbohydrates or sugars because the sugar and carbohydrate are rapidly metabolized energy. Our body uses them first. Because people consume significant calories via sugar and carbs/grain, the fat they consume is stored and often unhealthy fat. If the sugar and unhealthy grain intake was reduced or removed and replaced with high vegetable intake, the fat would be burned off.
@Razz8282 Wait what, what you're saying is totally wrong. Well, except for more veggies being a good thing, that's true. rapidly metabolized energy doesn't matter. The problem is eating TOO much energy, not how you get it. It's simply too easy to get. You see farmers who're fat, yet they haven't touched soda (or "rapidly metabolized energy") more than once or twice in their lives. It's all about how much you consume versus how much you use. Slow carbs are also stored as fat if not used :/
If you had watched the whole presentation you would have learned something. Watching 5 minutes and then spouting off like you know something just shows your attention deficit issues.
At 44:45 "This very elegant feeding study really was the first study to establish the biochemical basis for over-eating in response to a high refined carbohydrate and high sugar meal."
What Garber fails to mention about William Banting, one of the pioneers in the low carb movement, when she cast aspersions on his credibility by mentioning that he was an undertaker, was that Banting lived to be 81 years of age, dying in the year 1878 - well before medicine ever came up with treatments for diabetes/heart disease. Hence, Banting's life may testify to the efficacy of a low carb diet. After all, he did exceed even the life expectancy for males by modern standards!
it seems scientists are gonna send someone to mars. but unfortunately they have no worked on what is good for human brain, how to treat depression without forcing those destructive drugs down his throat, what is the right food to lose weight? maybe its time to forget about outer space and start worrying about your inner space.
@AtheistJon thanks, someone agrees. everyone you see has found the magic exercise to reduce weight and the magic drug , magic diet, a new diet book, just a quick way to make money.
@AtheistJon bottom line these days is money, so everyone is trying to make money, that was my point. having said that i do enjoy most videos from this channel, it has less of bs .
@lokhtar you are right. i stand corrected then. but they are doing less of inner space. wouldn't you agree ? because everything is motivated by capitalistic gains. peace!
@killintymm Most research in the basic sciences is government funded, and under Obama, it is increasing. We spend probably $20-$30billion per year. The problem is that as we move to treatments of chronic conditions instead of acute ones, the problems are much greater, since it's not the bacteria or a virus, it's your own body that is responsible, and fighting that is much harder, and thus progress is going to be slower. Not much we can do but keep trying, we'll get there eventually.
@killintymm Both. Our lifestyles, the things we eat, environment, genetics, all of those things contribute to many chronic conditions. Things like cancer is just cells in your body going out of control. It's much harder to treat conditions caused by changes in your body itself - unlike acute diseases where you can focus on killing 'a thing' like a bacteria. To treat chronic conditions, you have to make your body change what it's doing via therapies, and keep it that way- a much harder thing.
In the original research, this study notes that high-fat foods are often high-SUGAR foods, or were consumed w/sugary foods. (Think pastry, or burgers & coke.). In the conclusions this was NOT mentioned, thought to be coincidental & irrelevant . WRONG: It was sugar all along. If they'd paid attenetion to their own research, we'd be 50 years ahead in dietary recommendations.
I love her critique of the "low-fat" diet. I cringe when I see "diet" products, period. Switching from "whole" foods to processed crap wasn't a healthy idea, reallly??? I would have never guessed. Hey, I found the cause of obesity in the USA: Lazy, gluttonous pigs don't want to just eat less and move more.
I agree with Auriganus here. The raw correlation of a scatter of points with a line is not enough. You have to compare it with other possible lines. For example, if you have a single cluster of points, you can get the same correlation drawing a line through it in any orientation. It doesn't tell you anything at all.
Come to that, the first graph shows no trend at all - just three isolated points at top right. How does she get the trend line from that graph? It is totally arbitrary.
I am shocked. That first graph showing CHD against saturated fats is completely useless. It shows 16 points randomly distributed up and down the vertical axis. Only two, the Japanese and Italian points, are significantly lower fat and CHD. Two points don't make a trend!
lower. For example, she picked out the US point on the graph, but she might equally well have chosen the French or Swiss data, which show very low CHD but the same fat intake as the US. The graph is statistically meaningless.
I just do not think that the figure of 0.71 is significant in this case. The sample is too small and too bunched. Just for comparison, what would be the correlation rate with the best-fit horizontal line? Can you tell us please? I 'guesstimate' that it would be just slightly less than 0.71.
Excellent information thanks
TheMetodogabriel 1 week ago
metabolic syndrome is basically cauesed by one thing, malnutrition, low fat diets and sun avoidance leads to low intakes of vita d, e, k, and calcium. glucose intolerance leads to proliferation of fat cells to handle the excess glucose that is not being used by the body cells due to not having the nutrients to handle glucose glucose is toxic without these nutrients so the cell protects itself. glucose stays to long in blood leads to severe glycation and damage to proteins.
TheRosa63 2 weeks ago
sorry I couldn't go on. this video is so full of flaws, innuendos and statisical bias I can't stand it . there is a reason your body stores nutrients as saturated fats, they are more resistant to free radicals and oxidation. polys are so oxidative you can only eat them fresh. if you eat 338 extra caloires per day you gain 34 pounds a year, yet who gained 34 pounds in a year? I Never seen it, drink a pop per day gain 10 pounds a year, never did gain one extra pound doing that.
TheRosa63 2 weeks ago
@KrisLawren I dont need any other diet program cause im totally sticked to what ive been performing found in the site WeightLossAction.Info.. I so much lost a bunch of weight through the help of there weigh loss programs and methods.. So, why should i switch? that's a big no no..
YoursTrulyGlenn 3 months ago
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YoursTrulyGlenn 3 months ago
Finally! More scientists who agree and expand on Lustig, Taubes, Yudkin, Atkins and can put a nail in the super low fat/ hign carb coffin... we need more of them on here...
ntaaid 4 months ago
She starts with the Keys study - where he cherry-picked his data, and ignored outliers, such as Innuit & Polynesians who eat diets with VERY high sat fat. A bad start. Then she cites studies which are observational, and not experimental. If you want a different interpretation of those studies - google "fat head movie."
One other note - she emphasizes that when one overeats, excess calories in the form of fat are ostensibly easier to store. But what if you're not "overeating"?
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Hi hi! Have you ever tried cleverous 402 diet (search on google)? Ive heard some unbelivable things about it and my buddy lost a ton of weight with it.
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danhantheman 7 months ago
It is the twenty country study that is hysterical. The correlation coefficient looks good and may be weighted by a couple of outliers but if you look at the graph, there is absolutely no predictive value for most of the points. It's right in front of her eyes that the correlation is poor. Statistics is our servant not our master. She does have excellent English and I would love to hear her describe how a black object is actually white.
ProfFeinman 7 months ago
@ProfFeinman Did you only watch the first 30 seconds or something? Quit acting like you're hot shit when you don't even know what she's talking about.
Eetaq 7 months ago
@ProfFeinman Dude - if you are a professor and jump to firm conclusions before you have reviewed the evidence in front of you (in this case, her lecture) then I pity any students you might have.
Orionsaru 2 months ago
@Orionsaru Quite right. Every possibility that rest of her talk makes sense. Should have spelled out review of evidence but others got it: whatever the statistical significance, 20-countries is meaningless -- look at level of SF for the US that she emphasizes: the outcome values are all over the place. Also, isn't it R^2 that accounts for % variance? My students are encouraged to question what I say including above. First 5 minutes so seriously in error that can't see why I should hear rest.
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novreka 8 months ago
people should watch the entire program before jumping to conclusions. just watching the first few minutes of the presentation can lead to mistaken assumptions about what she is leading up to.
sroh98 9 months ago 3
It's obvious that many of the commenters only watched the first 5-15 minutes or so. She is NOT blindly supporting a low fat diet. This complements Robert Lustig's talk quite nicely (he is the first person she thanks at the end of the talk) and provides a good overview of the science and some good advice for those interested in weight loss.
qocweb 10 months ago 18
@qocweb It is what happens when uneducated people listen to an academic lecture, the lack of soundbites and use of precise language leads to confusion.
E.g. her statement about fats being easier to convert suddenly becomes 'fats are bad', when instead it was part of her showing how the early low-fat diets were reasoned. And she doesn't really give any real indication of what conclusion she's reached until at least half-way in the video.
Basically the net is full of idiots.
RakshasaCat 2 months ago
@RakshasaCat I'm an academic and reasonably well-educated. If you don't "really give any real indication of what conclusion she's reached until at least half-way in the video" that is a serious fault in academic presentations and if the beginning is faulty as in other comments, then you have to fix it, if you want people to hang in there for you main point.
ProfFeinman 2 months ago
@qocweb I only watched the first 5 minutes of her talk but it is so erroneous (described above and by others) that there is no reason to keep watching. Lustig's YouTube is not a model of scientific accuracy -- some of what he says is true, some is false, some is blatantly wrong, e.g. fructose does provide glycogen.
ProfFeinman 2 months ago
im my opinion, low fat diets are really unsatisfying, we all need some fat (not saturated or trans fat), but essential fatty acids
msdancingqueen11 10 months ago
most of the calories in peanut butter come from fat
but are peanut oil, mono and polyunsaturated fat in natural peanut butter linked to heart disease??
msdancingqueen11 10 months ago
"Sugar: The Bitter Truth" video is much more convincing. Very scientific explanation of fructose metabolism. It is poison.
ktcrochet 10 months ago
There are a lot of folks walking around and talking about what we should and shouldn't eat. Unfortunately research in this field is always flawed because there are too many variables and no way to completely control the study. Nonetheless, if folks want to eat a high fat, meat based diet its there choice. It does seem to me that there is enough evidence from various sources to conclude a plant-based diet is better for one's health than eating animal flesh and fat and eating dairy and eggs.
pbziegler 10 months ago
Very informative, and most importantly - for me - fairly easy to grasp and understand. And the Harvard Food Group chart at the end of her lecture, makes her talk, picture perfect.
YisraelOrBust 11 months ago
this is the most informative speech that I have ever listen to about low fat diet and low carb diet. well done Dr.
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peepeevagi 1 year ago
I am so angry with people like this lady - how long has mankind been walking the earth? Just about 100,000 years or so. How long have we been eating saturated fats? She's rediculous!
AoneSpain 1 year ago
Wow. 5 minutes in and she's already hit my skeptic button. The 7 countries study by Ancel Keyes has been so widely debunked as to be barely considered science. Then on the 20 country study she points out Japan which is an extreme statistical outlier and ignores France and Switzerland which aren't (or at least less so) and which also refute her premise about saturated fat being the culprit of heart disease. Bad science.
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This woman is completely misinterpreting this information. Fat is stored ONLY when it is consumed when you eat it with carbohydrates or sugars because the sugar and carbohydrate are rapidly metabolized energy. Our body uses them first. Because people consume significant calories via sugar and carbs/grain, the fat they consume is stored and often unhealthy fat. If the sugar and unhealthy grain intake was reduced or removed and replaced with high vegetable intake, the fat would be burned off.
Razz8282 1 year ago 4
@Razz8282 did you watch the entire video, or just the first 5-15mins?
ihatecakes 10 months ago
@Razz8282 Wait what, what you're saying is totally wrong. Well, except for more veggies being a good thing, that's true. rapidly metabolized energy doesn't matter. The problem is eating TOO much energy, not how you get it. It's simply too easy to get. You see farmers who're fat, yet they haven't touched soda (or "rapidly metabolized energy") more than once or twice in their lives. It's all about how much you consume versus how much you use. Slow carbs are also stored as fat if not used :/
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@Razz8282
If you had watched the whole presentation you would have learned something. Watching 5 minutes and then spouting off like you know something just shows your attention deficit issues.
1kickerfish 6 months ago
At 44:45 "This very elegant feeding study really was the first study to establish the biochemical basis for over-eating in response to a high refined carbohydrate and high sugar meal."
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stephenoff 1 year ago
What Garber fails to mention about William Banting, one of the pioneers in the low carb movement, when she cast aspersions on his credibility by mentioning that he was an undertaker, was that Banting lived to be 81 years of age, dying in the year 1878 - well before medicine ever came up with treatments for diabetes/heart disease. Hence, Banting's life may testify to the efficacy of a low carb diet. After all, he did exceed even the life expectancy for males by modern standards!
alphacause 1 year ago
it seems scientists are gonna send someone to mars. but unfortunately they have no worked on what is good for human brain, how to treat depression without forcing those destructive drugs down his throat, what is the right food to lose weight? maybe its time to forget about outer space and start worrying about your inner space.
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AtheistJon 1 year ago
@AtheistJon thanks, someone agrees. everyone you see has found the magic exercise to reduce weight and the magic drug , magic diet, a new diet book, just a quick way to make money.
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That's very true, but when the idea is presented with science that has been published in peer-reviewed literature, it certainly has more credibility.
AtheistJon 1 year ago
@AtheistJon bottom line these days is money, so everyone is trying to make money, that was my point. having said that i do enjoy most videos from this channel, it has less of bs .
killintymm 1 year ago
@killintymm That's a false dichotomy. You can do both.
lokhtar 1 year ago
@lokhtar you are right. i stand corrected then. but they are doing less of inner space. wouldn't you agree ? because everything is motivated by capitalistic gains. peace!
killintymm 1 year ago
@killintymm Most research in the basic sciences is government funded, and under Obama, it is increasing. We spend probably $20-$30billion per year. The problem is that as we move to treatments of chronic conditions instead of acute ones, the problems are much greater, since it's not the bacteria or a virus, it's your own body that is responsible, and fighting that is much harder, and thus progress is going to be slower. Not much we can do but keep trying, we'll get there eventually.
lokhtar 1 year ago
@lokhtar our own body is responsible ? do you mean the lifestyle and we dont know how harmful some things are in the long run ?
killintymm 1 year ago
@killintymm Both. Our lifestyles, the things we eat, environment, genetics, all of those things contribute to many chronic conditions. Things like cancer is just cells in your body going out of control. It's much harder to treat conditions caused by changes in your body itself - unlike acute diseases where you can focus on killing 'a thing' like a bacteria. To treat chronic conditions, you have to make your body change what it's doing via therapies, and keep it that way- a much harder thing.
lokhtar 1 year ago
In the original research, this study notes that high-fat foods are often high-SUGAR foods, or were consumed w/sugary foods. (Think pastry, or burgers & coke.). In the conclusions this was NOT mentioned, thought to be coincidental & irrelevant . WRONG: It was sugar all along. If they'd paid attenetion to their own research, we'd be 50 years ahead in dietary recommendations.
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gvividheart 2 years ago
I love her critique of the "low-fat" diet. I cringe when I see "diet" products, period. Switching from "whole" foods to processed crap wasn't a healthy idea, reallly??? I would have never guessed. Hey, I found the cause of obesity in the USA: Lazy, gluttonous pigs don't want to just eat less and move more.
SugarMagnolia20 3 years ago
I dont think the woman in the video knows what a graph is, never mind how to analyse the data!
GARETHMOCHAN 3 years ago
I agree with Auriganus here. The raw correlation of a scatter of points with a line is not enough. You have to compare it with other possible lines. For example, if you have a single cluster of points, you can get the same correlation drawing a line through it in any orientation. It doesn't tell you anything at all.
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Come to that, the first graph shows no trend at all - just three isolated points at top right. How does she get the trend line from that graph? It is totally arbitrary.
Auriganus 3 years ago
I mean the second graph.
Auriganus 3 years ago
I am shocked. That first graph showing CHD against saturated fats is completely useless. It shows 16 points randomly distributed up and down the vertical axis. Only two, the Japanese and Italian points, are significantly lower fat and CHD. Two points don't make a trend!
lower. For example, she picked out the US point on the graph, but she might equally well have chosen the French or Swiss data, which show very low CHD but the same fat intake as the US. The graph is statistically meaningless.
Auriganus 3 years ago
The correlation was 0.71, a lot more reliable than your guesstimations of the correlation.
aussiejudoka 3 years ago
I just do not think that the figure of 0.71 is significant in this case. The sample is too small and too bunched. Just for comparison, what would be the correlation rate with the best-fit horizontal line? Can you tell us please? I 'guesstimate' that it would be just slightly less than 0.71.
Auriganus 3 years ago