@usmchutch Okay, lets say you do get the border secure some how. You're saying that you are going to cut families in half? do you know what that would do to the kids? It's a fact that you are more likely to become a criminal if you don't have both parents in your home. How would you arrest these immigrants? imagine the state you would live in, raids left and right, homes of hard working families with no criminal ties besides the fact that they're illegal. In the end it will bite you in the ass.
@lab4x16 Hey let this teabagger answer the question. Cut families in half? No way man not if it's up to me because they'd all be deported. And that's exactly what 85% of this country wants. It's a damn shame that we're going to end up having to amend our own constitution on account of another invading country or countries taking advantage of something that don't even apply to them, but I guess that's just the way it's gonna have to be so we'll have to get err done soon.
@WatchmenNo1 85% of this country? I think not, I'm not sure what polls you're looking at maybe one on the NSM website. Well, seems like both sides have been amending the constitution to me(considering rights basic to a human). What countries are taking advantage? if anything the U.S. has been taking advantage of all America(continent) since this country was founded, even asia and the middle east! then you cry about there being immigrants from those same countries the U.S. corrupted and raped!
@lab4x16 I see and exactly who did you come here to represent because the Indians had this country first. And guess what? I'm part Indian just as many whites in this country are. I guess that takes care of your argument?
@lab4x16 It should not be the responsibility of American citizens to pay for illegal immigrants children so they should take their children with them back to Mexico. You act like securing the border is impossible however many other countries do it properly. America is so screwed so it does not even really matter anymore.
@usmchutch Then whos responsibility is it? okay lets say they set up a way they can pay for their own deportation through work programs while they are in jail for being illegal, do you know how long it would take? not including how much money it would already cost the taxpayer keeping them in that jail? You're right, it shouldn't be the responsibility of the taxpayers like you or myself, but what other option do you have? What country does it properly? North Korea? i'll give you that.
It's their own responsibility dumbass. If they come here illegally then they know they may suffer the consequences. You need to grow a set of nuts son!
@lab4x16 You asked whos responsibility is it to pay for illegal immigrants children and I say it is THEIR responsibility and that is not sensible? So I answered your argument and then hurt your little vagina afterwards.
@usmchutch I never asked whos responsibility it was to pay for their kids, I asked how do you plan to pay for deportations? do you think they can pay for their own deportation with out being able to have a job? You don't think, all you say is "git er don" and expect magic money to end up in their back pockets so they can buy the first ticket out of here. Yeah, but lets deport their parents so the kids stay here parentless with no money, then you bitch and wonder why kids join gangs and steal.
@lab4x16 But no, it's the parents responsibility, lets see how their parents will be able to pay for their childrens home in the U.S. with a Mexican wage of $300 a month. A generation of young monorities growing up with out parents. Look at all statistics, it's a fact that most criminals come from poverty stricken homes with the presence of only one parent, if any. You don't understand that by deporting all these parents the children will suffer inturn making them vulnerable to commiting crime.
@lab4x16 It will end up costing the U.S. tax payer, as much as their parents try to help their kids there is no possible way they will be succesfull at it(remember they left to find work). The tax payer will end up paying because the parents arent there to do so, why? because they get paid shit in their country. So how do you think the tax payer will pay less? if the parent is here, right? you save all the $ from the deportation, they pay taxes, kids grow up with parents, you don't pay for it.
@lab4x16 We actually do not need to deport them. If we make it illegal for illegal immigrants to work then they cannot make money and have to take their own asses home.
@elvexx1 You ask the question as if it is impassible to deport them. Let me ask you this question. How could you count 15 million illegals but not be able to deport them? Census ring a bell? If they can count them that means they found them. And if they can find them they can deport them. Amnesty IS NOT the answer. First of all it's more like 40 million plus illegals to begin with. Then factor in if given amnesty it will allow their families in so factor in double that number.
@WatchmenNo1 You do know that number doesn't just include Mexicans, it's not a drive to the border, there is people here from all over the world, you want to talk spending? then tell me how the hell you would pay for this? Tea Baggers want to cut-taxes but then they want every illegal deported? how the hell? People like you are so ass backward I don't under stand how you come up with this.
@lab4x16 You do know that I used the word illegal alien right not Mexican? I don't care who's here illegally. The fact is they are here illegally and they need to be shown the door. How do I intend to pay for this? Well in short I don't have any intentions on paying for it because I don't approve of it period. We are not responsible for other countries citizens follow me? What looks ass backwards to you is called direction and without it you don't know which way is up.
@WatchmenNo1 I understand the fact that they are illegal, but before you talk about not approving of being responsible for other countries citizens and with all do respect to the men/women that served(including illegal aliens) then why was there a Iraq war? why is the U.S. even involved in peace treaties in the middle east? if you want to talk about not being responsible for other countries people then maybe you should start with the foreing policy?
@lab4x16 Like the rest of us citizens I have nothing to do with foreign policy though we have plenty to do with paying taxes or they'll take our house we already paid for. We pay $2000 a year just to keep what we already paid for and it pisses me off knowing our money goes to pay for heath services, education and everything else for illegals. We're being forced to pay their way through theft extortion and black male when the invaders don't even belong in our country.
@WatchmenNo1 And you don't think illegals pay taxes? they do! they just don't get the benifits when they lose that job! my uncle has been here since he was 5(fleeing a war that the U.S. started - the interest was in the corp. not the people) and pays every penny in taxes he owes, but when he became unemployed(was easier to lay-off) he received no benefits, no welfare, no unemployment, nothing. And how much do you think we spend on health services, education and everything for people in Iraq?
@lab4x16 Okay, but you don't have anything to do with foreing policy, that's fine. So lets talk welfare, latinos only account for about 15% of welfare in this country! compared to 40%-50% in whites! sure there is a great cost in border protection, but that's a given, every country has great cost when it comes to that. I understand there is a problem on our borders, and I understand it is illegal to be here with out papers, but waiting 25 years isn't a good option apposed to just being here.
legal or illegal I want everyone of you to get out, you are all trash. FOR MEXICANS
BillaBeer21 6 months ago
iam for legal immigration but how the fuck are you gonna deport 15 million people. amnesty and militirized border is the answer.
elvexx1 1 year ago
@elvexx1 Amnesty is not the answer. First secure the border then start the deporting it will take years.
usmchutch 1 year ago
@usmchutch Okay, lets say you do get the border secure some how. You're saying that you are going to cut families in half? do you know what that would do to the kids? It's a fact that you are more likely to become a criminal if you don't have both parents in your home. How would you arrest these immigrants? imagine the state you would live in, raids left and right, homes of hard working families with no criminal ties besides the fact that they're illegal. In the end it will bite you in the ass.
lab4x16 1 year ago
@lab4x16 Hey let this teabagger answer the question. Cut families in half? No way man not if it's up to me because they'd all be deported. And that's exactly what 85% of this country wants. It's a damn shame that we're going to end up having to amend our own constitution on account of another invading country or countries taking advantage of something that don't even apply to them, but I guess that's just the way it's gonna have to be so we'll have to get err done soon.
WatchmenNo1 1 year ago
@WatchmenNo1 85% of this country? I think not, I'm not sure what polls you're looking at maybe one on the NSM website. Well, seems like both sides have been amending the constitution to me(considering rights basic to a human). What countries are taking advantage? if anything the U.S. has been taking advantage of all America(continent) since this country was founded, even asia and the middle east! then you cry about there being immigrants from those same countries the U.S. corrupted and raped!
lab4x16 1 year ago
@lab4x16 I see and exactly who did you come here to represent because the Indians had this country first. And guess what? I'm part Indian just as many whites in this country are. I guess that takes care of your argument?
WatchmenNo1 1 year ago
@WatchmenNo1 Great argument, since you are Native American please watch this.
"M. Shebala On Navajo Nation's Position On Arizona's Anti-"Immigrant" & Anti-"Ethnic" Studies Laws " Just type it into the youtube seach bar.
lab4x16 1 year ago
@lab4x16 It should not be the responsibility of American citizens to pay for illegal immigrants children so they should take their children with them back to Mexico. You act like securing the border is impossible however many other countries do it properly. America is so screwed so it does not even really matter anymore.
usmchutch 1 year ago
@usmchutch Then whos responsibility is it? okay lets say they set up a way they can pay for their own deportation through work programs while they are in jail for being illegal, do you know how long it would take? not including how much money it would already cost the taxpayer keeping them in that jail? You're right, it shouldn't be the responsibility of the taxpayers like you or myself, but what other option do you have? What country does it properly? North Korea? i'll give you that.
lab4x16 1 year ago
It's their own responsibility dumbass. If they come here illegally then they know they may suffer the consequences. You need to grow a set of nuts son!
usmchutch 1 year ago
@usmchutch Wow, you made no sensible argument, and then you went to insult.
"If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names" -Elbert Hubbard.
lab4x16 1 year ago
@lab4x16 You asked whos responsibility is it to pay for illegal immigrants children and I say it is THEIR responsibility and that is not sensible? So I answered your argument and then hurt your little vagina afterwards.
usmchutch 1 year ago
@usmchutch I never asked whos responsibility it was to pay for their kids, I asked how do you plan to pay for deportations? do you think they can pay for their own deportation with out being able to have a job? You don't think, all you say is "git er don" and expect magic money to end up in their back pockets so they can buy the first ticket out of here. Yeah, but lets deport their parents so the kids stay here parentless with no money, then you bitch and wonder why kids join gangs and steal.
lab4x16 1 year ago
@lab4x16 But no, it's the parents responsibility, lets see how their parents will be able to pay for their childrens home in the U.S. with a Mexican wage of $300 a month. A generation of young monorities growing up with out parents. Look at all statistics, it's a fact that most criminals come from poverty stricken homes with the presence of only one parent, if any. You don't understand that by deporting all these parents the children will suffer inturn making them vulnerable to commiting crime.
lab4x16 1 year ago
@lab4x16 It will end up costing the U.S. tax payer, as much as their parents try to help their kids there is no possible way they will be succesfull at it(remember they left to find work). The tax payer will end up paying because the parents arent there to do so, why? because they get paid shit in their country. So how do you think the tax payer will pay less? if the parent is here, right? you save all the $ from the deportation, they pay taxes, kids grow up with parents, you don't pay for it.
lab4x16 1 year ago
@lab4x16 We actually do not need to deport them. If we make it illegal for illegal immigrants to work then they cannot make money and have to take their own asses home.
usmchutch 1 year ago
@elvexx1 You ask the question as if it is impassible to deport them. Let me ask you this question. How could you count 15 million illegals but not be able to deport them? Census ring a bell? If they can count them that means they found them. And if they can find them they can deport them. Amnesty IS NOT the answer. First of all it's more like 40 million plus illegals to begin with. Then factor in if given amnesty it will allow their families in so factor in double that number.
WatchmenNo1 1 year ago
@WatchmenNo1 You do know that number doesn't just include Mexicans, it's not a drive to the border, there is people here from all over the world, you want to talk spending? then tell me how the hell you would pay for this? Tea Baggers want to cut-taxes but then they want every illegal deported? how the hell? People like you are so ass backward I don't under stand how you come up with this.
lab4x16 1 year ago
@lab4x16 You do know that I used the word illegal alien right not Mexican? I don't care who's here illegally. The fact is they are here illegally and they need to be shown the door. How do I intend to pay for this? Well in short I don't have any intentions on paying for it because I don't approve of it period. We are not responsible for other countries citizens follow me? What looks ass backwards to you is called direction and without it you don't know which way is up.
WatchmenNo1 1 year ago
@WatchmenNo1 I understand the fact that they are illegal, but before you talk about not approving of being responsible for other countries citizens and with all do respect to the men/women that served(including illegal aliens) then why was there a Iraq war? why is the U.S. even involved in peace treaties in the middle east? if you want to talk about not being responsible for other countries people then maybe you should start with the foreing policy?
lab4x16 1 year ago
@lab4x16 And please don't give me the Al Qaeda excuse because even bush himself said that was not the reason.
lab4x16 1 year ago
@lab4x16 Like the rest of us citizens I have nothing to do with foreign policy though we have plenty to do with paying taxes or they'll take our house we already paid for. We pay $2000 a year just to keep what we already paid for and it pisses me off knowing our money goes to pay for heath services, education and everything else for illegals. We're being forced to pay their way through theft extortion and black male when the invaders don't even belong in our country.
WatchmenNo1 1 year ago
@WatchmenNo1 And you don't think illegals pay taxes? they do! they just don't get the benifits when they lose that job! my uncle has been here since he was 5(fleeing a war that the U.S. started - the interest was in the corp. not the people) and pays every penny in taxes he owes, but when he became unemployed(was easier to lay-off) he received no benefits, no welfare, no unemployment, nothing. And how much do you think we spend on health services, education and everything for people in Iraq?
lab4x16 1 year ago
@lab4x16 Okay, but you don't have anything to do with foreing policy, that's fine. So lets talk welfare, latinos only account for about 15% of welfare in this country! compared to 40%-50% in whites! sure there is a great cost in border protection, but that's a given, every country has great cost when it comes to that. I understand there is a problem on our borders, and I understand it is illegal to be here with out papers, but waiting 25 years isn't a good option apposed to just being here.
lab4x16 1 year ago
where did you find this?
BLACKBEAUTY8989 1 year ago
Duh, Yea, ya think?
submix8c 1 year ago