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  • China's success: oh, it's fake; India's failure: oh, it has potential... Democracy always wins you know just like justy always does!!

  • best discussion i have ever heard.........cool

  • I dont see this as India Vs China...We both countries have divided things to benefit the best...Come on west let us see who will be the Superpowers...U have had enough...Its time we play

  • @gautamduvvuru I lpve CHINDIA

    

  • @gautamduvvuru unfortunately india would never be a superpower

    they cant even do a crushing victory to the pakis thats how weak india is

    nepali gurkhas are better than indians despite their numbers

    DEAL WITH IT

  • @anonymous133711 The thing is India is just not that interested in dealing a crushing blow to pakistan. Besides have you EVER seen two nuclear countries fight a war to the death? The losing side might just start a nuclear holocaust!

  • @akram4179 LOL us made a crushing defeat to afghanistan and iraq that shows the superiority of their force, WITHOUT THE USE OF NUKE. yet india cannot do it

    now now gtfo

  • @anonymous133711 Did you read my comment properly? I said TWO nuclear countries, NOT one of the country being nuclear and the other isn't.

  • @akram4179 LOL u idiot, i never answered that question because we havnet had a nuke war before or so i believe. besides afghanistan and iraq had potential on bioweapon.

    so lets get back to our topic, india can never become a super power if they cant do crushing defeat on paki which never happened and will never happen

    prove me wrong

  • @anonymous133711 If all there is to being a superpower means putting down someone/some other country, I definitely don't want India to become a superpower. Or at least I DO NOT want India to become THAT KIND OF Superpower. What did America gain gain by putting down Iraq and Afghanistan? The hatred of the next generation of Afgans and Iraqis? The sentiment all over the world that America is losing its moral High ground? An economic down turn at home not seen since a loong time

  • @anonymous133711 No, I don't think I want India to become that. I will be completely content if only 100% of Indians have food and shelter. I'll be content if 80% of Indians have jobs. I'll be content with a SELF SUFFICIENT INDIA. So that if another recession happens, we don't have to take a fall. I'll be content if we can protect our sovereignty. That's pretty much enough.

  • @Trooperalbum nah india is well fucked, and GTFO you're being too emotional dont cry alright? besides im not asking how do you feel about india being not a superpower

  • @anonymous133711

    lolwut. Emotional? o.O wut? O.o ...I quoted historical fact. I stated realistic aspirations.

    You reply with weird non sequitur.

    I find your trolling skills quite lacking sir. Good day.

  • @anonymous133711 As for Pakistan, lol they're doing an excellent job of destroying themselves without any external help. Why spend money and human resources on that pitiful country when all those resources and money are needed at home?

    And If push comes to shove and they force our hands, we'll just repeat 1971 and help their own people create Balochistan. No big deal.

  • @anonymous133711

    I broke Pakistan into two in 1971. So think before you say that India do not know crushing victory.

  • @girishlinux no you didnt broke the pakistan into two

    loool you stupid or something? it was nowhere near crushing victory

    heard of us occupation of iraq and afghan??

    that is an example of crushing victory

  • i saw some comments far behind and intend to say, we cannot achieve the same strengths of both people in the country and its country together at a time.. india is focusing on democracy and its human rights, just like the westerners.. whereas china focus on its country rather on its people.. so, one thing at a time, if human rights is first, you gonna have to sacrifice your country.. if country is its priority, you gonna have to sacrifice your people..

  • wow, thats a hell lot of SPAMS.. i like this kind of discussion as they are not quarreling or whatsoever..

  • According to economic historian Angus Maddison in his book The World Economy: A Millennial Perspective, India had the world's largest economy from the first to the 18th century, with a 32.9% share of world GDP in the 1st century to 28.9% in 1000 AD, and in 1700 AD with 24.4%.

  • @MrSeekerofjustice India is still in deep shit because of stupid British. China was affected less by the British so we managed to get back up faster and catch up with all the other nations. India used to be great (before British ofc) but it still needs to catch up. Economy-wise, India was probably the richest (before 18th century), but now Economy-wise China=#2 while India is around 10th.

  • Astronomy- India held the #1 position until the 18th century. Go through the quotes.

    Metaphysics- India was and still is the #1 in the world. Attend a spirituality course in India and find out for yourself.

    Technology: India invented metallurgy, among many other things! India was the #1 in the world

    Education: India established the world's first university. It was also the first university to admit women. Socrates, Plato, Pythagoras and Aristotle were students in India!

    Beat that Bitch!

  • @obsidianstatue

    Do something about your inferiority complex.... and stop pulling facts outta thin air! Goodbye!

  • @MrSeekerofjustice Chinese GDP in millions of international dollars

    1 AD 26,820。 1000AD 26,550。 1500AD 61,800。1600AD 96,000。 1700AD 82,800。 1820AD 228,600。 1870AD 189,740。 1913AD 241,431.

    india GDP ppp in Geary–Khamis dollar(international dollar) same time scale

    33,750 。 33,750 。 60,500。 74,250 。90,750 。 111,417 。 134,882 。 204,242

    drop the indian superiority crap.

  • @MrSeekerofjustice

    Agree e 100% dude,

    China is moving like the hare...

    India is a sly fox...

  • Science- science was number 1 in India! the middle easterners learnt it from us.

    Medicine- The first surgery was conducted in India by the Great sage - Sushrutha, who is considered the father of medicine. EVERY surgical instrument in use today was invented in India.

    Anesthesia was discovered in India. The first ever school of medicine - Ayurveda originated in India. India was #1 throughout history and is still #1 now, in many ways!

  • If I were asked under what sky the human mind has most fully developed some of its choicest gifts, has most deeply pondered on the greatest problems of life, and has found solutions, I should point to India.

    - Max Mueller (German scholar)

  • why are we waiting for some one to come and invest and sell our products to us?? can't we do it ourselves ??? it is like giving your land for lease.. we should not open like China,

  • both are great ... COOOOL

    

  • Don't blame everything on Chinese propaganda... Do you even know the strength of China? Sure, India was one of the WEALTHIEST civilizations EVER. But so was China. Both had few problems with each other throughout history, with an exception of the 1962 war between China and India. China dominated Asia for more than 2000 years, with an exception of 19th and 20th. India was also a powerful country, and was glorious for thousands of years as well, with an exception of the last few hundred years.

  • @Xinyuan12345

    From the first to the eighteenth century, India was the centre of human existence, by every index.... - wealth, intellect, technology, etc.... The British bastards ruined our image and that was the image that most westerners had of India until 3 or 4 years ago. It is only now, in the past 4 or 5 years that india is being talked about in such a positive way... if you do even a little research, you will realise that India dominated the whole world, including China for 2000 years!

  • @MrSeekerofjustice Are you kidding me? India never dominated the world... If YOU had done a little research, you would've found that India is hemmed in from ALL SIDES. So communication was difficult, and India kept to themselves. Chinese kill themselves in many bloody civil wars, but at least they kept to themselves as well. India and China never had any major conflicts with each other... Only the British were the ones who came in and ruined everything.

  • @Xinyuan12345 And in terms of wealth: Yes, India was ONE of the wealthiest. It was also quite advanced in the field of technology. But back then actually, China was the one of the best, if not THE best, in the field of technology. China and India both excelled intellectually... India and China lost to Britain in wars because they refused to adapt to the new ways. And as such, they missed the Industrial Revolution and fell behind.

  • @Xinyuan12345

    Your ignorance about India astounds me! India's wealth finds mention in the literature of every major civilization - Rome, Greece, Egypt and even in less important civilizations like China. India was the wealthiest civilization, by far. India lost this position in the 1800s. India was #1 in math, medicine, astronomy, metaphysics, technology and education! Research the civilization of India. I will post a few quotes for you to make up your mind.

  • @Xinyuan12345

    None of the claims made by China can be verified. In fact, India dominated the world for most of human history and china for more than 2000 years.

    Hu Shih, former Ambassador of China to USA: "India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border."

    Martial arts, Buddhism, Yoga and the technique of building 3-D statues were taught to China by India. Research Boddhidharma! China was puny compared to India.

  • @MrSeekerofjustice Excuse me, but what you're saying is only partially correct. Martial arts was never taught to China by Boddhidharma; he only taught them strength exercises because he saw how physically weak the monks were. But what role has India played in the world for the last 2000 besides trade? China has had a HUGE influence on Japan, Korea, Mongolia, Vietnam, Thailand, and even the Phillipines. Now name some cultures that were influenced by India. I dare you to.

  • @MrSeekerofjustice And you think that Rome, Greece, and Egypt are greater civilizations than China? The Roman empire has dominated ONLY Europe for less than a thousand years. Greece wasn't even a major player, besides their influence on a few other countries in Europe... Egypt? Don't make me laugh! While being one of the oldest and most advanced in the field of technology and many other things, it wasn't a major player either.

  • @MrSeekerofjustice India- Math- Yes, probably #1 for about 2 millenia

    Science- Never held the #1 position; science was number 1 in the middle east. Medicine- No, this goes to the middle east as well for about a thousand years. Astronomy- It is disputed as to which country held this position. I believe that it was either India or Greece. Metaphysics- Yes, but for a period less than 500 years. Technology? Never number one, don't make me laugh. China was number 1 for about 4.5 millenia. Education?

  • @Xinyuan12345 We don't want to dominate humans, that is slavery.. We are known for humanity, and humanity will prove its best, and we have to realize that west is ruining the rest, I'm glad that you have similar thoughts, I don't want Silk route to turn dessert.

  • @Xinyuan12345 of-course we both have few problems, that is what forcing us to buy weapons and invest on military from which West is earning, 2.5% of Indian GDP and 3 or 4+% of Chinese GDP is being spent on defense, for the amount we spent so far, will exceed the value of amount of land that are disputed,, But not to forget we have more in common than contradictions..

  • I think these 2 countries are cannot be compared if we look at both of their tradition and people's mindset. China has totally different background in terms of religion and approaches by the people to the government. In this case comparison made by Dr.Fukuyama could be very proper to cite.

  • @Yotta1983

    Hu Shih, former Ambassador of China to USA:

    "India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border."

  • @Chinahahahahahahaha If so, India Dominated the whole world, because we thought every thing, but what now? why are we waiting for some one to come and invest and sell our products to us?? can't we do it ourselves ??? it is like giving your land for lease.. we should not open like China,

  • whatever you guys say, its all about freedom. which country doesn't have corruption? India's infrastructure sucks, i totally agree, but people there do things the way they wanted. as for china, do guys know that chinese government kills people just because they protested against government for democracy? phew.... FREEDOM!!

  • @dernaren

    "do guys know that chinese government kills people just because they protested against government for democracy? phew.... FREEDOM!!"

    You mean like what's happening in Kashmir everyday where the Indian military is shooting and killing innocent men, women, and kids who are resisting India's occupation and humanrights abuse and the never ending raping of the females there? Being forced to protecting themselves against modern firearms with stones.India is a sham democracy!

  • And these guys are idiots.

    How the hell do you take a peasant off a farm in India and put that illiterate farmer to work in services? What's he gonna be an instant programmer?

    But what if you take that same illiterate farmer and put him into a factory where he is nothing but a cog in the assembly line where he's not expected to think. That's what China is doing with it's illiterate farmers.

    India is headed for failure with the "jump to services" bypassing factories..

  • @lukebccb Well, the same way it was done in the west. Just give each person one thing to do repeatedly. It works.

  • India will become a state where there is a small minority of Indians living a "modern industrial" life while the rest of the vast majority of Indians will continue living in semi-feudal poverty.

    That's what will happen if India doesn't go thru an "industrial revolution".

    If you don't understand what I mean by this "industrial revolution" for a nation to "transform" then go do some research.

  • @lukebccb Why call revolution when it's not like setting a trend. You mean to industrialization?

  • This is nothing but a feel good video making excuses to make India feel better.

    India is further behind China than any of these talking idiots can understand.

    China is going thru the industrial revolution right now turning China into a modern industrial state like Europe, USA, Japan, etc.

    India isn't showing any signs of heading for an industrial revolution and without that hundreds of millions of Indian will be left in grinding poverty.

    (cont.)

  • @lukebccb They clearly state that China can gear where it wants the growth go to because of authoritarian government. India cannot do that.. It has to find a different way.

  • The big issue that addressed is the rise of fundamental islam in asia. It is affect both India and China. How would these countries deal with it. And instead of competing with each other maybe India and China can actually work on this issue together. Maybe India, China, US, Russia, and Europe can all work on this together. It clearly would be advantages for all of them because all of them are dealing with the same issue.

  • * The big issue that was not addressed...

  • china thinks its about country

    india thinks it not about the country , its about who is inside it ...us the himan beings .

    i dnt care if India end up in 2nd place but " I like my human right and democratic freedom and that the only reason i love india "

    ps:chines has any freedom ? or their communist govt tell them what to do/dont

  • @prithvie02

    The Chinese may not have so call western style freedom like the right to elect ones own dictator however they do have the right to eat, have shelter, and to educate themselves. Indians have freedom...free to be poor, illiterate, corrupt, and to drink cow urine. Good job Mandeep!

  • @2101silverstein

    Q: What do you throw a Chinaman When he is drowning?

    A: His wife and kid!

  • @2101silverstein

    Q: What is long, smelly and Yellow?

    A: A construction site in the south!

  • With the scarcity of the natural resources and increasing problems with pollution and globe warming, is uncontrolled population growth a curse or blessing?

  • I am basically skipping all the Gordon's crap while watching this video clip, what an idiot he is!

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  • @IndiaforHindus if anything that is a good thing for china, just perfect timing.

  • @tiger9502

    Whaddya mean?

  • @MrSeekerofjustice china has no interest in telling indians how to behave themselves

  • @tiger9502

    India needs to tell china how to behave. India needs to tell China that they are dealing with a vastly superior civilization - a civilization that that has given China so much without asking for anything in return! Research Boddhidharma, buddhism, shaolin temple, origin of martial arts. These gems were taught to china by India!

  • @MrSeekerofjustice hahaha, don't make us laugh. you are welcomed to try tho.

  • @tiger9502

    “Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.”

    - Gautama Buddha

  • @MrSeekerofjustice agreed there, still, i would love to see you try your other rhetoric with anyone.

  • @tiger9502

    I have... and they were convinced! An ancient Indian buddhist monk named Bddhidharma travelled across the Himalayas and taught the Chinese Yoga, Martial arts, Buddhism and Kung Fu.... He also founded the Shaolin temple and presided as its first priest.

  • @MrSeekerofjustice did you manage to convince them indian civilization is not inferior? who did you convince anyway? essentially you were just saying "o, i am sooo much better than you". grow up please. hahaha

  • @MrSeekerofjustice

    达摩祖师

  • Unfortunately India has 20% of it's population following a retarded, demonic arabic death cult...India can never catch china...

  • Great round-table discussion... I just wish they spoke more about how China and India can work together!

  • @IndiaforHindus

    Travel to China man.... You will realise how big a hoax "rising China" is! Read the following article on the internet: "David Sedaris: Chicken toenails, anyone?"

  • @IndiaforHindus

    I am talking about history..... Historically, there is no comparison between India and China..... India is vastly superior by every index!

    Hu Shih, former Ambassador of China to USA: "India conquere