Today--Water Filters ! !

[waterfiltersystems1]

good explanation.. thank's for this lesson..



[VanceMarks]

Great review. Thanks

[FatDaddy4Fun]

Thanks for the break down. There is a ceramic MSR now, with a charcoal core too. I am watching all of the videos where these filtration systems are concerned, and the ceramic MSR (although requiring a little more care) seems to be the most effective, and durable. Thanks for the video. The information helped a lot. ~Wolf

[Antioch18x]

The filter has a carbon element inside of the ceramic cylinder... the siltstopper attachment that you put on doesn't. I believe that is simply a 40/50 micrometer pre-filter to catch, well, silt!

[OldManGlitch]

Real Good Review

Thanks

[iloveiphone93]

how much are the replacement filters and were do you get them from

[401Hammer]

Good review..!!! Have you tried the Katadyn Hiker Pro..? 100g lighter, but a 0.3 micron filter. A 5 minute min. rolling boil should kill the little bugs or a Steripen U.V. treatment will also help for good clean water.

[jeeping32810]

Are you still using this filter today, 03-03-10? I am thinking of through hiking in 1 year, and I wanted to see your thoughts on using this filter the WHOLE trail. I dont like the chemicals. Let me know.

[nsgrossman]

Thanks tinny, great review.

[USMarineMOS1833]

Thanks Tinny, I was looking at buying one of these but like to see a little more info on things beforehand. I like it. Keep up the good work!

[b1naryd1g1t5]

It wont take out most viruses. The smallest virus is 25 nanometers, that's several times smaller than the .2 microns pore size of this ceramic filer (which is about 200 nanometers).

So, you will still need to boil or use chemicals if you want to take out viruses in the field. That is unless you use some of the filters that claim to be able to filter down to a few nm (the "lifesaver bottle" claims to have a pore size of 15nm).

[minibulldesign]

I am not worried about viruses in the wild away from people.---should I be?

[b1naryd1g1t5]

In the USA, you probably don't have to worry about viruses as much. I think viruses in water are rare here (though not unheard of). In other countries, especially developing countries, you will definitely want the ability to filter viruses. Usually this means boiling or using chemicals (unless you have RO or distillation options).

Ceramic filters might remove some of the larger viruses, but there are viruses as small as 20nm.

[STRIKER520]

@minibulldesign You should be worried animals can give you viruses just the same as people and since alot use the water you drink for the same plus they go to the bathroom in and to clean them selves off you can catch worse then you will around people you can even get many stomach viruses, flu's and even hepatitis A.

[FatDaddy4Fun]

@minibulldesign Absolutely. Even crystal clear mountain streams have biological micro-organisms, that need to be eliminated. The MSR, with a Seri-pen (or water tabs, etc.) is a complete system. The filter alone, is not sufficient enough to keep you from getting some pretty nasty intestinal difficulties on the trail. But if you have both systems working together (a charcoal core is recommended for taste and smell), you can reasonably drink out of a pothole.

[jons4real]

Tinny would you say this filter is a better filter than the Katadyn Hiker Pro?

[389Lee]

Tinny, where do you get the charcoal filter to attach to the water filter to make the water taste better? By the way, I like your videos....thanks.

[minibulldesign]

I think this came from Campmor and is a product sold by the company that makes PUR water filters ---as an add on. I think my filter came with a free one.

[Swazooli]

thanks tinny, I see so many toys and yet what does work simplest and gets the job done is always he question. That jandle looks annoying as you stated, but better'n dysentary.

[neakerizm]

gosh we have this same filter and love it but for some reason we've never really taken it apart! I cleaned it out tonight after seeing your video and glad we did!!! Now i can take better care of our filter :) keep up the good work and thanks for sharing

[SB20330]

Ugh! Mine will not purge when upright! It is brand new and the instructions clearly state DO NOT INVERT TO PURGE FILTER.... WTF am I suppose to do? I am not impressed that this thing won't purge upright... its 2009 for F sakes.

[minibulldesign]

If you contact the maker they are offering a new and more open filter replacement cartridge for the hyperflow for free

[draconiandevil01]

I have a couple of tips. I own that exact same filter and the manufacture recommends that after your done using it you set the ceramic filter out to dry for a few days (this will prevent mold from growing on the filter it self ) Also It's a good Idea to make sure that the O ring is properly seated in the casing. I usually carry chap stick with me and apply a little on the O ring to insure it seals properly, but wax, or even spit will work. Thanks and great video.

[northwoodsdude]

You're more likely to get sick if you filter your water then if you don't...Always drink water closest to it's source if you can..Water filters are a gimmick. Dont buy them.. You've been warned.

[tigerboyav]

northwoodsdude.....you are wrong fucktard...so stfu...water filters work better than you stupid ass thinks...so shut the fuck up.

[JSmithPhoto]

Hello. I'm assuming you still use tablets or drops after pumping/filtering your water.....right?

[minibulldesign]

With a filter format of 0.2 micron there is no need to poison your self with a bunch of liver damaging chemicals---that is the whole idea

[ahkinzero]

when you're pumping, you can screw the clean side cover on to the lid of your nalgene bottle (or a dromedary bag, in my case). It helps prevent cross contamination and lessens the chance of losing it

[CreamPie9uy]

i've been thinkin about buyin' one of those. thanks for the advise

[devronl]

The literature says the unit has an activated carbon core to remove bad taste and chemicals inside the ceramic filter element, yet the video says this is not so... was this an oversite, an older unit, misleading info, or what?

[upupaepops]

Good question. My EX is about 3 years old, and the original ceramic filter it came with had the carbon filter core. I was curious enough that I decided to waste $40 and break it open to see it. If I'm in a dirty or cloudy water area, I ALWAYS use this filter because it does remove odor and taste. Recently I've added the SteriPen Ultraviolet sterilizer to make 100% certain that I've killed everything, and if I'm in clear water country, I'll only use the SteriPen.

[haha48]

depends on what filter it comes with they made more then 1 modle and filter type but the one i got is that one and it has a carbon core in it

[cdltpx]

Thanks for the review I bought one just like it tonight it also recommends you carry an additional ceramic should you go on an extended trip like a missionary would go so if you happen to chip the cerammic rendering it non functioning you have the backup. Need to get the charcoal filter too didn't think to get that when @ bass pro. Saw the stirie pen but figured not to get it hoping the filter is good enough. My wife said if we need to filter water &shoot critters she will probably not make it.

[aimusleh]

God this is an amazing review, one of the best I have ever seen. What do you mean you are no expert, you are ridiculous and know exactly what you are talking about.

I have a quick question, more like just asking your opinion. Down here, the MSR miniworks is $85 but for this week they have the Katadyn Vario on sale for $45. Do you think that it would be a good filter, or should I stick with the MSR? I would appreciate your comments. Thank you and take care.

[minibulldesign]

The ceramic filters are all very good the only real difference is water per pump or speed to filter

[gm0042oidos]

nice review. I'll buy this.

[ROCKsquareANORACK]

excellent informative video tinny

[redtortoise76]

Do you find that the ceramic unit breaks easily?

[minibulldesign]

no it is very durable

[ArmyRanger10]

You should add the MSR PES filter on there so you have 2 filters.

[minibulldesign]

Because you have to filter the water to a clear state to use the UV pen I think I would just as soon use this filter and be sure my water was safe

[TogetherinParis]

I've used the K pro hiker with good effect. I got sick on the first five days out of Springer, twice, with Seychelle gravity filters. 600 miles on the AT with the Katadyn hiker pro, the filter started to get harder to pump, so I always knew when to get a new filter. $30.00 though! Ouch!

[minibulldesign]

The danger is catching a virus because this filter does not have an iodine pack

[ArmyRanger10]

Get sweetwater chlorine drops to add to the filtered water.

[donfachabella]

Thanks for the great video!

I hope you do more like it.

And the information about purfiers vs filters was an eye opener!

I do beliefe that "FIRET NEED PURFIERS" has a filter replacement cartridge that can be put in line after your water filter to make it a purfier. And it will work with gravity also.Ill check it out and let you know.

[minibulldesign]

Yes --I beleive this is exactly the filter I use. It can be unscrewed and refilled with charcoal. You can get the charcoal from a sporting good store or from a tropical fish store--they use it to filter the tropical fish tank water

[donfachabella]

What kind of charcoal filter do you use?

Its a great idea

[minibulldesign]

I am using a charcoal filter that came with an old PUR water filter

[donfachabella]

Tinny check this out it looks like the same water filter,great video, Don

Katadyn Carbon Cartridge

REI Item #7090060018

[WeekendAdventurer]

I took one of these on a 4 week trip in the Adirondacks. It cleaned water for 8 thirsty guys. What made it good was the fact that I could clean it and keep going. (It needed cleaning about once a week) The bad thing about it is once the ceramic filter is waterlogged, you can't get the water weight out of it. Once used, it weighs about half as much as a liter of water! It is great for durability and long trips, but I try to stick to light and cheap iodine pills for my short stuff.

[minibulldesign]

I don't think the small amount of water the filter cartridge can soak up is heavy enough to even mention and measures to less than an ounce.

[minibulldesign]

Iodine pills are not good for your liver and you have to wait 4 hours before you can drink the water --so you will have to carry this water in your pack for 4 hours. This water is much heavier than the 15 oz filter. I don't know about you but I like to drink when I get thirsty not wait 4 hours. I won't even address the taste of iodine.

[WeekendAdventurer]

You must have an updated design. Mine was purchased in 1999 and was green. (not that the color matters) Iodine kills most bacteria in 20min. Bever fever is the only one it takes 4 hours to kill. How do you feel about the UV pen?

[minibulldesign]

How do you know weather you have beaver fever in your water or not? Do you really want to take the chance?

[Algonquin]

Thanks for the tip on pressurizing the unit.

I've considered this unit as it seem to do a decent job for a reasonable price.

I know some folks will wrap a J-cloth around the water intake as a pre filter if there is a lot of algae.

I've been using Pristine for some time now, and it also does a good job.

[donfachabella]

Whatsa J-cloth

[Algonquin]

A J-cloth is a disposable/reusable cloth that you can buy at your local grocery or Walmart type retailer. Inexpensive, and now contain microban, which is supposed to inhibit bacterial growth. Using one as a prefilter just saves you from cleaning your ceramic filter as often in certain conditions.

[donfachabella]

THANKS!!!!