What is 'whirling feedback' exactly, sounds like piano with some reverb on it, the piano part is there in all the mixes. A multitrack tape is not a 'master' that is the final mix from which you make the LP, CD etc. There is no such thing as 'true' stereo for a pop mix like this. Funny how 5.1 sounds a LOT like the 1971 mix. As is typical with remix culture it just gets louder & LOUDER. One of their worst songs, but I have found myself humming it to myself....he he he. Nice effort paulisdead!
@dutchgoing Wow, I consider this one of their finest moments. Two separate songs of two totally different ideas by John and Paul melded into one perfectly flowing song highlighted by an instrument they would use only one time. It just doesn't get much better than this IMO.
@dutchgoing Wow, crap is a strong word for such a wonderful and memorable song. My idea of crap in Beatles terms is Revolution 9, Mr. Moonlight, When I Get Home or I Dig a Pony. Now those are crap.
@buffalobraves9 It isn't a very strong song and always sounded like filler to me. Those other examples are crap except for Revolution 9 which was ground-breaking, a track that used 'sampling' back in 1968 is a milestone, it's not meant to be catchy or even particularly enjoyable. Avant garde Lennon after that really was utter rubbish.
@dutchgoing The 'feedback' part sounds like delay feedback (the way it rapidly increases). To elaborate on the 1999 mix: they took elements from different 4-track multi-track tapes (there could be several tapes for one song as they had to bounce down onto one or two tracks of a new multi to exceed 4 tracks), then synced the tracks to create a new digital multi-track that had more tracks to work with. For this new digital multi-track, they mix a new stereo mix.
@paulisdead I think you are right about the feedback. I would have been happy with a cleaned up sonic solutions 're-master' of the original mix. I'm not really happy with the way the track is completely taken apart and remixed. The original mix, very much part of creating the track just gets chucked in the bin. You wouldn't do that with restoration of any other creative work, doing as little as necessary in most cases. I think the Beach Boys cds are better because they were restored this way.
What is 'whirling feedback' exactly, sounds like piano with some reverb on it, the piano part is there in all the mixes. A multitrack tape is not a 'master' that is the final mix from which you make the LP, CD etc. There is no such thing as 'true' stereo for a pop mix like this. Funny how 5.1 sounds a LOT like the 1971 mix. As is typical with remix culture it just gets louder & LOUDER. One of their worst songs, but I have found myself humming it to myself....he he he. Nice effort paulisdead!
dutchgoing 6 months ago
@dutchgoing Wow, I consider this one of their finest moments. Two separate songs of two totally different ideas by John and Paul melded into one perfectly flowing song highlighted by an instrument they would use only one time. It just doesn't get much better than this IMO.
buffalobraves9 6 months ago
@buffalobraves9 Most of their other songs are a great deal better than this. It isn't a great song but they way they perform it carries it off well.
dutchgoing 5 months ago
@dutchgoing I consider it one of my top 10 favorite Beatle songs...
buffalobraves9 5 months ago
@buffalobraves9 Fair enough. I consider it crap (by their standard) but enjoyable though.
dutchgoing 5 months ago
@dutchgoing Wow, crap is a strong word for such a wonderful and memorable song. My idea of crap in Beatles terms is Revolution 9, Mr. Moonlight, When I Get Home or I Dig a Pony. Now those are crap.
buffalobraves9 5 months ago
@buffalobraves9 It isn't a very strong song and always sounded like filler to me. Those other examples are crap except for Revolution 9 which was ground-breaking, a track that used 'sampling' back in 1968 is a milestone, it's not meant to be catchy or even particularly enjoyable. Avant garde Lennon after that really was utter rubbish.
dutchgoing 5 months ago
@dutchgoing The 'feedback' part sounds like delay feedback (the way it rapidly increases). To elaborate on the 1999 mix: they took elements from different 4-track multi-track tapes (there could be several tapes for one song as they had to bounce down onto one or two tracks of a new multi to exceed 4 tracks), then synced the tracks to create a new digital multi-track that had more tracks to work with. For this new digital multi-track, they mix a new stereo mix.
paulisdead 3 months ago
@paulisdead I think you are right about the feedback. I would have been happy with a cleaned up sonic solutions 're-master' of the original mix. I'm not really happy with the way the track is completely taken apart and remixed. The original mix, very much part of creating the track just gets chucked in the bin. You wouldn't do that with restoration of any other creative work, doing as little as necessary in most cases. I think the Beach Boys cds are better because they were restored this way.
dutchgoing 3 months ago
Scholarly work - nice job!
PC3900 11 months ago
@PC3900 Cheers!
paulisdead 11 months ago