Some background to this...Hubbard was teaching the first Class VIII Auditor Course on the Flagship Apollo at this time, and...it wasn't going well. The class was making "mistakes" ie the rubbish he was teaching them didn't work properly cos it couldn't work. Hubbard would never in a billion years admit his 'tech' was nonsense, so he threw tantrums and kept telling the Class 8s that the reason for the lack of progress was that the tech wasn't being applied 'standardly'. The RPF began...
If anybody was still in any doubt of L Ron Hubbard's mental illness, here's proof. The man was an absolute fruit-loop. Mad as a box of frogs. Daft as cheese.
Fantastic. People need to hear this. Thanks for sharing L Ron's little temper-tantrums.
Nice! vaLLarrrr commented on this one. vaLLarrr never harpoons a video with a comment unless there were good reason. And she was threatened by this video, or compelled to defend it. Just like she tried to convince ILOVESCIENTOLOGY that Depakote wasn't a psych drug, after ILOVESCIENTOLOGY acknowledged management has been infiltrated by SPs.
You know what, vaLLarrr? Your behaviour actually gives us very good leads on how your stat system works. It seems you really can't leave any comments on crazy L Ron Hubbard or wacky abussive David Miscavige uncontested. How about we anons flood you, and only you, with negative comments about those two? And how about doing it on thursday? Would you like that stats?
You really got to learn to play dead. But David Miscavige won't let you. I guess you're lost to the cult now...
That is all very fine. Still I wonder why you keep responding my comments here. After all, it is already clear we are not going to reach any agreement. Could it be you need to respond every comment I make for your stats? If thats not the case, I guess you could just leave this comment uncontested...
Really guys, you got a wacky guy like these telling you he's been a war hero, while he was not, telling you he's a nuclear scientist, while he's not even got a degree, etc.
Then he tells you he's got a bridge for total freedom to sell you, called "$cientology". Would you buy even matches froma guy like these?
Actually you and your reaction to this video is the very proof of brainwashing.
You have L Ron Hubbard here, a false self proclaimed war hero and nuclear physicist, yelling and abusing his staff with nonsense. Yet his staff thinks every word he says is brilliant. They think the episode is their fault.
And then you got vaLLarrr. He can't see the madness in this and calls the it "brilliant". He comments on anon videos 24/7 because of some "tech" made by a conman. Enjoy your downstat, Sea Org.
No, really. Any sane person that finds my comments so worthless would just stop responding them. But $cientology, runned by crazy David Miscavige, tells you to responde every single critical comment on your conman messiah, L Ron Hubbard. You just won't stop.
This should be proof to you that "the tech" does not work. The only reason I keep commenting this is becuase you keep doing it. If you just let it go, like any sane guy would do, your stats would be bettter
When are you guys ever going to address an issue? How many times are you going to shake off glaring inconsistancies before you finally recognize "Wow! This is pretty messed up!"
You want to know how Scientology works? KSW, that's how, because if Scientologists didn't have it drilled into them "KSW KSW KSW" this nonsense would all come to an end.
Scientology works because it trains you to ignore reality. Don't believe me? Pick up a book on neuroscience; any of them. Read chapter ONE.
It is not a generality it is an open question of your personal behavior and that of your cult. You don't address issues you are trained to brush them off.
Even if it were a Generality SO FUCKING WHAT? As long as I am not Vague, misleading, or making straw man arguments, who cares?
You don't have a defense based on reason, You specifically and Scientologists IN GENERAL can't brush this off, you all in a widespread GENERAL sense are ignoring reality.
Fine lets do some generalities, I don't give a shit. I when I go to the Org the Scientologists usually hide inside with shades drawn when they see me coming. Sometimes some of them come out and harass and handle me, and generally I shoot their arguments down because they don't acknowledge any facts if they contradict the cult's diatribe. Sometimes they send Private investigators out to follow me as I leave, and I have to shake them.
This is a very general story and hundreds have lived it.
They are not logical fallacies, and they are required, yes required, to examine trends. If you cannot examine specifics in the general field and if you cannot get a general feel of specific cases you fail at studying trends. I guess that would fit for you, though because clearly you are unaware of the enormous trends of stat-crashes bad PR and flap that are spewing out of the cults every orifice.
Trends are things that let us know things like population growth, continental drift, the stock market, pandemic control, global warming. Basically anything and everything having to do with science.
Now tell me what about Generalizing is good, what about generalities is bad and what distinguishes the two?
unfortunately for your "point," it has NOTHING WHATEVER to do with logical fallacies.
and the DIFFERENCE between the two, is that "generalizing" allows one to INFER things, without claiming "PROOF."
while using a GENERALITY like "everyone knows," for instance, is a logical "FALLACY of OMNISCIENCE" where YOU CLAIM to know what "EVERYONE" thinks when you DON'T, as IF you are "proving" something, when you are IN FACT NOT proving a DAMN THING.
The thing is that I may use a generalization, fine then you don't have to take my word for it. I am not being vague. Just a little research into Scientology protests demonstrate that all of my general statements bear factual evidence.
Listen to hubbard in this say that THOOUUUUUSANDs of PCs have been ARC broken and chopped up. What PCs? When? That's a fucking generality there, isn't it? Right from Hubbard's fatass mouth.
and many OTHER things in SCIENCE INCLUDING cultural anthropology HAVE NOTHING WHATEVER to do with "trends."
not to MENTION of course that TRENDS have NOTHING WHATEVER to do with using the logical FALLACY of using GENERALITIES, which is the ACTUAL POINT, not the straw man "argument" YOU are attempting to create.
and you hven't actually MADE ANY statements that can be PROVEN or DISPROVEN.
and he is GENERALIZING and NOT using that to PROVE ANYTHING IMBECILE.
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rubbish. not EVERYTHING is a "trend" imbecile.
not to mention that "TRENDS" have NOTHING WHATEVER to do with the LOGICAL FALLACY of "PROVING" something with a GENERALITY, which proves NOTHING AT ALL.
just because YOU are too STUPID to understand the DIFFERENCE between EXTRAPOLATING from a GENERALIZATION, and the LOGICAL FALLACY of "SPEAKING IN GENERALITIES" to "PROVE" something.
Trends bring proof, by providing reliable data taken from a large pool. Trends are a vital part of all scientific humanities. Generalities/Generalizations are only fallacious when they cannot be scientifically supported, and to say otherwise is to fall back on straw man arguments.
Go get sec-checks and RPF assignments. I hope everyone you love blows, and your cult forces you to disconnect. I hope you end up at gold with your abusive leader. Clearly that's what it's going to take for you.
I wonder if I touched a nerve with my last comment.
Hey vaLLarrr, I was wondering, how about I place two comments on a video critical of L Ron Hubbard for each comment you response. Will that help your stats?
Well for one thing it is good that you recognize this as a genuine L Ron Hubbard lecture.
Now, that you find this wacky ran not only meaningful, but actually "brilliant" does tell a lot of your current state of mind. Only a $cientologist would find this out of control rant of any worth, and that is becuase they have been brainwashed by LRH and David Miscavige to adore any crap they say.
You call yelling at people like a mad man "humor"? Man, I would recommend you to show this video to any non-$cientologist to you can re-learn what normal people think of behavior like these, but I'm pretty sure you have no contact with non-$cientologist anymore.
Like most people trapped in a this cult.
L Ron Hubbard was not being funny on this one. He was being abusive on his staff, something he enjoyed, as is well documented. And so does David Miscavige, your criminal leader.
"I laughed till. . . my sides were sore." -Adam Sedgwick, British geologist in a letter to Darwin in regards to his theory of evolution, 1857
and,
"Airplanes are interesting toys, but of no military value." - Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy
and,
"To affirm that the aeroplane is going to 'revolutionize' naval warfare of the future is to be guilty of the wildest exaggeration." -Scientific American, 1910
Well, its really sad to see how you refuse to acknowledge the wackiness of your fail prophet L Ron Hubbard, but whatever. Still, you might want to search a video called "Hubbard Completly Lossing his Mind".
Just out of pure curiosity, do you happen to believe all the lies L Ron Hubbard told about being a war hero? And a nuclear scientist?
You might want also to listen to what Arthur C. Clark had to said about LRH. Just make a search "hubbard arthur clark"
what's REALLY sad is that you are obviously not intelligent enough to recognize ALL the times in HISTORY that something that was called "wacky" or "insane" or "batshit crazy" turned out to be RIGHT, and everyone ELSE WAS WRONG.
but people like YOU still go around doing that ANYWAY, because it's all so "OBVIOUS," JUST like it was all those OTHER times.
don't BOTHER "debating" it of course.
nah. better to just SAY it RIGHT? like ALL anons.
"You might want also to listen to what Arthur C. Clark had to said about LRH"
oh, you mean like what "Professor Goddard does not know the relation between action and reaction and the need to have something better than a vacuum against
which to react. He seems to lack the basic knowledge ladled out daily in high schools."
-- 1921 New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard's revolutionary rocket work.
and of course the NOBEL PRIZE for the "inventor" of the LOBOTOMY.
Its funny how everytime we have these lovely chats you leave out the parts you dislike of my comments. What about L Ron Hubbard being a war hero and a nucelear scientist?
'you leave out the parts you dislike of my comments."
oh, I don't "leave them out."
I only refute ONE lie at a time, not a BARRAGE, which is a typical anon tactic, hoping ONE will somehow "stick."
so merely state ONE lie at a time, and watch me CRUSH IT.
"What about L Ron Hubbard being a war hero and a nucelear scientist?"
it's utterly IRRELEVANT, and I couldn't care less about it, since if EINSTEIN and HUBBARD were PEDOPHILES, Relativity and Scientology would work JUST AS WELL!
Well, its actually quite relevant, since L Ron Hubbard claimed he was a war hero and a nuclear scientist to impress people. Which means, L Ron Hubbard LIED a lot about his past. Does not add much to his credibility, does it?
you obviously don't want to get the POINT that Hubbard's "credibility" is IRRELEVANT, since Scientologists DON'T "believe" or "accept" WHAT HUBBARD SAYS ANYWAY!!
"What is true for you is what you have observed yourself and when you lose that you have lost everything . Nothing in Dianetics and Scientology is true for you unless you have observed it and it is true according to your observation. That is all."
You have a dude, called L Ron Hubbard, that claims he's been a war hero and he has a degree on nuclear physics, which are both flat lies.
The he says he's invented this thing $cientology, and claims it can fix all your problems and give you "total freedom". He tells you you can try it and only take the bits of it that work for you, but does no tell you it uses techniques to brainwash people.
And then you get people that comment 24/7 on videos like you do...
Its really sad to see how you are brainwashed to the point you have to believe a guy loosing control like L Ron Hubbard does in this tape is some Einstein. Anyone can notice something is not sane in this man, to say the least. Anyone but a $cientologist.
You might want to search a video called "Hubbard Completly Loosing his Mind". Wonder if you will find that to be "brillian". Sure you will, L Ron Hubbard is sacred to you.
But for the rest of people, he was just a wacky conman.
Yeah, my parents said their doctors prescribed it to them because they had two kids under 3 years old and were dead tired. That was before the docs found out how dangerous it was.
his disturbing diatribe along w/ the video of cows placidly grazing while he terrifies his audience in the background is single-handly the funniest thing i'v ever seen in my entire life...(literally rolling around on the floor unable to breathe...)
No really--here's the deal with this. Hubbard, a writer of cheap alien novels (pulp) in the 30s, became obsessed with science fiction and himself. He descended into a self-aggrandizing state (basically a state of believing he was someone or something very special and spectacular) and created a "religion" that his followers later expanded into the "church" of Scientology. He was obsessed with sci-fi and with himself. THAT'S IT. That is the entire story of Scientology.
I was audited once by the IRS and they used a parking meter on me. They told me I shouldnt use my PC to file claims. They assessed that, even if I'm doped up, my thetan deduction exceeded the maximum and that I should expect NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING. So I just got back in line in the cattle chute and waited for hammertime.
His people are "fucking things up" because they're following the bullshit space-opera "tech" that he devised.
The comparison to the USMC is borderline offensive, especially since the Sea Org goons are clearly trying to model themselves after the Corps. And failing.
Listening to a mad-man rant is like watching an alcoholic get drunk; it's not funny.
Despite the harm that CoS has done to people, and the self-serving adulation Hubbard clearly craved, on hearing this you can't help but feel sympathy for this man, who was clearly psychologically disturbed.
They haven't listened to that ahh "recorded lecture," maybe? BUT I tell you what, I bet Tom Cruise HAS! I don't know WHEN you learn about what was it? Oh yeah, assessment (YIKES!) but it's definitely AUDITOR TRAINING.
I would think anybody with some common sense wouldn't need all that much intelligence to realize this man was clearly disturbed. WoW! (QQ)
The man was speaking pure BS. I can hear the audience a bit in the background. I can't believe other people paid to hear this and were listening to pure poppycock ( Anglicized form of the Dutch pappekak, which literally means soft dung or diarrhea)?
This is the "religion" that Tom Cruise is espousing.
Yik~Yik Yab~Yab!!!Listing & Nulling Its all quite simple...All one must do is Yik only as much as the Pre-Clear Yabs, if one over Yiks well then the pre-clear might tend to mal-Yab to the point of Listing and we cant have that if we want him to be Nulling, so its easy for you to stay on a Yik-Yik, Then Yab in that order no one will Yab before they Yic-Yic for then the Assesment will not Yab but completely Yic.. and no Nulling,Nulling will only assecc the Yac-Yac..BE PREPAIRED PEOPLE no LIST/NULL
The year was 2776,in the r"y"ear of the"MOST BEUTIFULL PENITRATING L-RONPOOPDEDOOPER"the year we be betrexted to diexlapax and twiver to the ethicklZanopreme sundrie operational spritzQuadrothwapidz...it was so beutiful,I personly had a colon packed and full of L-Ronzo-semonalistrom it was seeping out of the folds of my dielaXopreme ethic suite but I had a qwick change into my blastoVixon delaKolitis flatulenze diaper in order to keep my new ethiKalostomy in order,if you know what I mean,DO YOU?
yes, I DO. finally, FINALLY SOMEONE ANSWERS MY QUESTION!! Listen to every word that is said here peoples, it is all very important! Prepare your lists and null assessments! :P
not so much to laugh about after finding out how much damage this bizarre cult has done to cult members and families...oops, forgot about anyone who leaves the cult or disagrees with them. Even reporters and newspapers. Miscavige rants about totally obliterating psychiatry! He... who so obviously needs it!
oops, should have said.....needed it; the whack job is dead. The crazy cult said he "left' his body" because he no longer needed it to continue his "important" research!
hubbard was daarn crazy, but god damn he knew how to make people's lives better, it has certainly changed my life studying scientology, thats something i'll never forget.
I would love to walk in LRH's office while he was recording this and then shoot him in the head and watch his body drop like a sack of potatoes. I just want to put the poor fuck out of his misery
Yup. Fair use clips of an audio tape of Hubbard going bonkers is a great way to make Scientologists run in the opposite direction. Especially if they're not cleared to listen to it at their auditing level.
hey kids, let this be a warning to you...if you drink rum and pop pinks and greys, you may end up sounding like this lunatic! (This was in a letter to his wife). To think $cientology is against drugs and psychiatry! They should listen to their drugged out insane leader!
Some background to this...Hubbard was teaching the first Class VIII Auditor Course on the Flagship Apollo at this time, and...it wasn't going well. The class was making "mistakes" ie the rubbish he was teaching them didn't work properly cos it couldn't work. Hubbard would never in a billion years admit his 'tech' was nonsense, so he threw tantrums and kept telling the Class 8s that the reason for the lack of progress was that the tech wasn't being applied 'standardly'. The RPF began...
ProjectFlashlight612 5 months ago
This is not a lecture, he just fills his ramblings with meaningless statements.
liamstarwatcher 5 months ago
Someone needs his Ritalin...
EpicSwordGuy 6 months ago
How in gods name are there still Scilons after stuff like this. What a joke.
SOJOA 6 months ago
wut a dumb fucker
digitallykilla 6 months ago
4:11. This, according to Scientologists, is the voice of the man who has solved all of humanity's problems.
alexmortland 7 months ago
If he wasn't talking crap, maybe he wouldn't have to keep repeating himself.
Digscomics 10 months ago
ASSESMENT ASSESMENT ASSESMENT!!!
titans9002 1 year ago
Stupid fat retard, none of his ideas are worth shit.
This proves he was just a crazy old drug addicted fool.
Fuck him and fuck his cult.
vaaLLarr 1 year ago 2
Many thanks for posting
StopUnumNow 1 year ago 2
So, let me see if i got this right......the laws of listing and nulling don't apply to the laws of assessment,........okay that was simple enough.
does everyone understand? but can one assess the nulling without listing???
this is important i must know............yadda yadda yadda
fzappa007 1 year ago
Bat. Shit. Crazy.
cultssuck 1 year ago 6
If anybody was still in any doubt of L Ron Hubbard's mental illness, here's proof. The man was an absolute fruit-loop. Mad as a box of frogs. Daft as cheese.
Fantastic. People need to hear this. Thanks for sharing L Ron's little temper-tantrums.
doobedoo22 1 year ago
balls to the wall crazy
mebeluvined 1 year ago 3
WTF, who could be bothered listening to the whole 90 mins of this angry, despotic, crackpot drivel???
von2679 1 year ago 3
Wow - this video succeeded in getting little $cientology android vaLLarrr quite "enturbulated".
Look at all those caps. Heh.
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NarkAnon 2 years ago 2
Nice! vaLLarrrr commented on this one. vaLLarrr never harpoons a video with a comment unless there were good reason. And she was threatened by this video, or compelled to defend it. Just like she tried to convince ILOVESCIENTOLOGY that Depakote wasn't a psych drug, after ILOVESCIENTOLOGY acknowledged management has been infiltrated by SPs.
OpenComments 2 years ago 2
Tottaly nuts
KittyKatSpanker 2 years ago 3
Here we have it, folks. Elron loses his shit and Vallarr follows up by losing HER shit! LULZ
byte301 2 years ago 2
Hubbard in this video sounds just like Lonesome George Baillie, the OT8 street marauder.
11Jamie11 2 years ago
Rage much?
Blu3W4r10Ck 2 years ago 2
6:23
LMAO
chenalos 2 years ago
Someone should make a youtube poop out of this.
RedCrescentDemon 2 years ago
You know what, vaLLarrr? Your behaviour actually gives us very good leads on how your stat system works. It seems you really can't leave any comments on crazy L Ron Hubbard or wacky abussive David Miscavige uncontested. How about we anons flood you, and only you, with negative comments about those two? And how about doing it on thursday? Would you like that stats?
You really got to learn to play dead. But David Miscavige won't let you. I guess you're lost to the cult now...
DarthX3nu 2 years ago 2
'It seems you really can't leave any comments on crazy L Ron Hubbard or wacky abussive David Miscavige uncontested."
RUBBISH. MANY of your "friends" posts I don't even bother to READ, since they're entirely DRIVEL, let alone "RESPOND" to them.
have a nice day.
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
That is all very fine. Still I wonder why you keep responding my comments here. After all, it is already clear we are not going to reach any agreement. Could it be you need to respond every comment I make for your stats? If thats not the case, I guess you could just leave this comment uncontested...
By the way, I just commented here, as promised:
watch?v=vd1v7K5CsT4&
DarthX3nu 2 years ago 2
Hey val, I'm surprise with your silence. Did you learn to play dead, finally?
DarthX3nu 2 years ago
Really guys, you got a wacky guy like these telling you he's been a war hero, while he was not, telling you he's a nuclear scientist, while he's not even got a degree, etc.
Then he tells you he's got a bridge for total freedom to sell you, called "$cientology". Would you buy even matches froma guy like these?
DarthX3nu 2 years ago
' but does no tell you it uses techniques to brainwash people."
that's because they don't and that's just stupid.
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
Actually you and your reaction to this video is the very proof of brainwashing.
You have L Ron Hubbard here, a false self proclaimed war hero and nuclear physicist, yelling and abusing his staff with nonsense. Yet his staff thinks every word he says is brilliant. They think the episode is their fault.
And then you got vaLLarrr. He can't see the madness in this and calls the it "brilliant". He comments on anon videos 24/7 because of some "tech" made by a conman. Enjoy your downstat, Sea Org.
DarthX3nu 2 years ago 2
"Actually you and your reaction to this video is the very proof of brainwashing. "
wow. what brilliant "proof."
as usual.
got it.
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
No, really. Any sane person that finds my comments so worthless would just stop responding them. But $cientology, runned by crazy David Miscavige, tells you to responde every single critical comment on your conman messiah, L Ron Hubbard. You just won't stop.
This should be proof to you that "the tech" does not work. The only reason I keep commenting this is becuase you keep doing it. If you just let it go, like any sane guy would do, your stats would be bettter
DarthX3nu 2 years ago
When are you guys ever going to address an issue? How many times are you going to shake off glaring inconsistancies before you finally recognize "Wow! This is pretty messed up!"
You want to know how Scientology works? KSW, that's how, because if Scientologists didn't have it drilled into them "KSW KSW KSW" this nonsense would all come to an end.
Scientology works because it trains you to ignore reality. Don't believe me? Pick up a book on neuroscience; any of them. Read chapter ONE.
chenalos 2 years ago
wow. how "SPECIFIC."
"an issue."
not a TOTAL GENERALITY AT ALL.
LOL
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
It is not a generality it is an open question of your personal behavior and that of your cult. You don't address issues you are trained to brush them off.
Even if it were a Generality SO FUCKING WHAT? As long as I am not Vague, misleading, or making straw man arguments, who cares?
You don't have a defense based on reason, You specifically and Scientologists IN GENERAL can't brush this off, you all in a widespread GENERAL sense are ignoring reality.
chenalos 2 years ago
oh RIGHT. saying something has "glaring inconsistencies" without showing just WHAT they are is VEEEEEEERY "specific."
NOT a complete NON specific GENERALITY at ALL.
GOT IT. LOL
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
Fine lets do some generalities, I don't give a shit. I when I go to the Org the Scientologists usually hide inside with shades drawn when they see me coming. Sometimes some of them come out and harass and handle me, and generally I shoot their arguments down because they don't acknowledge any facts if they contradict the cult's diatribe. Sometimes they send Private investigators out to follow me as I leave, and I have to shake them.
This is a very general story and hundreds have lived it.
chenalos 2 years ago
oh, let's NOT do generalities, since they are logical fallacies.
and I haven't seen you "shoot down" ANY argument, since you have never MENTIONED any actual argument, not to mention have never MADE any argument.
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
They are not logical fallacies, and they are required, yes required, to examine trends. If you cannot examine specifics in the general field and if you cannot get a general feel of specific cases you fail at studying trends. I guess that would fit for you, though because clearly you are unaware of the enormous trends of stat-crashes bad PR and flap that are spewing out of the cults every orifice.
I mean, see attached video, for the love of god.
6:23 "WOOF!"
The lunatic actually woofs.
chenalos 2 years ago
yea sure. whoever "they" are. and whatever "trends" have to do with logical FALLACIES like GENERALITIES.
and just because YOU are too dense to understand the difference between "generalizing" and using "generalities" is entirely YOUR problem, of course.
DUH
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
Trends are things that let us know things like population growth, continental drift, the stock market, pandemic control, global warming. Basically anything and everything having to do with science.
Now tell me what about Generalizing is good, what about generalities is bad and what distinguishes the two?
chenalos 2 years ago
oh I know what trend is better than YOU.
unfortunately for your "point," it has NOTHING WHATEVER to do with logical fallacies.
and the DIFFERENCE between the two, is that "generalizing" allows one to INFER things, without claiming "PROOF."
while using a GENERALITY like "everyone knows," for instance, is a logical "FALLACY of OMNISCIENCE" where YOU CLAIM to know what "EVERYONE" thinks when you DON'T, as IF you are "proving" something, when you are IN FACT NOT proving a DAMN THING.
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
The thing is that I may use a generalization, fine then you don't have to take my word for it. I am not being vague. Just a little research into Scientology protests demonstrate that all of my general statements bear factual evidence.
Listen to hubbard in this say that THOOUUUUUSANDs of PCs have been ARC broken and chopped up. What PCs? When? That's a fucking generality there, isn't it? Right from Hubbard's fatass mouth.
chenalos 2 years ago 4
and many OTHER things in SCIENCE INCLUDING cultural anthropology HAVE NOTHING WHATEVER to do with "trends."
not to MENTION of course that TRENDS have NOTHING WHATEVER to do with using the logical FALLACY of using GENERALITIES, which is the ACTUAL POINT, not the straw man "argument" YOU are attempting to create.
and you hven't actually MADE ANY statements that can be PROVEN or DISPROVEN.
and he is GENERALIZING and NOT using that to PROVE ANYTHING IMBECILE.
geez, are you stupid.
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
OK, Seriously. Enough. There are no sciences that don't use trends. Fact. All trends rely upon a general data field to make valid conclusions. Fact.
OK?
Scientology never has trends. They don't care how much more OT3
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is helping one guy and not the other, they just want the money. This is why you're among the worlds biggest suckers
The game.
chenalos 2 years ago 2
and there are SCIENCES that have NOTHING to do with "trends" per se.
like CULTURAL ANTHROPOLOGY, for one.
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
Uh, Cultural Anthropology is filled with trends, Migration, Agriculture, populations, natural resources.
Stop saying stupid things or stop trying (and failing) to make a point.
chenalos 2 years ago 2
vaLLarr, I really mean this, you are one of the dumbest Scientologists I've ever trolled.
chenalos 2 years ago 8
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rubbish. not EVERYTHING is a "trend" imbecile.
not to mention that "TRENDS" have NOTHING WHATEVER to do with the LOGICAL FALLACY of "PROVING" something with a GENERALITY, which proves NOTHING AT ALL.
just because YOU are too STUPID to understand the DIFFERENCE between EXTRAPOLATING from a GENERALIZATION, and the LOGICAL FALLACY of "SPEAKING IN GENERALITIES" to "PROVE" something.
geez. you're too stupid to bother with.
have a nice day.
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
Trends bring proof, by providing reliable data taken from a large pool. Trends are a vital part of all scientific humanities. Generalities/Generalizations are only fallacious when they cannot be scientifically supported, and to say otherwise is to fall back on straw man arguments.
Go get sec-checks and RPF assignments. I hope everyone you love blows, and your cult forces you to disconnect. I hope you end up at gold with your abusive leader. Clearly that's what it's going to take for you.
chenalos 2 years ago
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who's ARGUING that trends bring proof??
YOU. NOT ME. I AGREE with that!!
but GENERALITIES like "EVERYONE KNOWS that....."
CANNOT be "scientifically supported," imbecile. and "EVERYONE KNOWS...." IS NOT A "TREND!!"
that's exactly the POINT!!
geez, are you stupid.
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
YOUR CAPSLOCK IS LOUD!!!
Whatever vaLLarrr, go to LJ and blog it out.We're too busy destroying your cult.
Gloria Marcabia. Outie.
chenalos 2 years ago 4
I wonder if I touched a nerve with my last comment.
Hey vaLLarrr, I was wondering, how about I place two comments on a video critical of L Ron Hubbard for each comment you response. Will that help your stats?
DarthX3nu 2 years ago
Looks like Gross Income was going down at the time, an unbearable idea for Hubbard
V17kZJ 2 years ago 2
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LRH is absolutely brilliant in this lecture.
you people are completely nuts.
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
Well now you call that ilogic mad rant brilliant? A guy completely loosing this mind in public? Man, you should visit a psychiatrist!
DarthX3nu 2 years ago 2
'Well now you call that ilogic mad rant brilliant?"
rubbish. he was just being farcical.
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
LRH is absolutely brilliant in this lecture.
you people are completely nuts.
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
Well for one thing it is good that you recognize this as a genuine L Ron Hubbard lecture.
Now, that you find this wacky ran not only meaningful, but actually "brilliant" does tell a lot of your current state of mind. Only a $cientologist would find this out of control rant of any worth, and that is becuase they have been brainwashed by LRH and David Miscavige to adore any crap they say.
Sad. I really hope you leave the cult some day.
DarthX3nu 2 years ago 3
"Well for one thing it is good that you recognize this as a genuine L Ron Hubbard lecture."
sure do. and it's brilliant. and he was just being farcical like I said.
but you anons never DID have any sense of humor.
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
You call yelling at people like a mad man "humor"? Man, I would recommend you to show this video to any non-$cientologist to you can re-learn what normal people think of behavior like these, but I'm pretty sure you have no contact with non-$cientologist anymore.
Like most people trapped in a this cult.
L Ron Hubbard was not being funny on this one. He was being abusive on his staff, something he enjoyed, as is well documented. And so does David Miscavige, your criminal leader.
DarthX3nu 2 years ago 3
'You call yelling at people like a mad man "humor"?
he wasn't yelling AT them. he was clowning around farcically.
next you'll be claiming that Albert Einstein was "INSANE" because he stuck his tongue out at REPORTERS.
Ooooooo. OBVIOUSLY a feeble minded lunatic.
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
You can try to fool yourself all you want, but crazy L Ron Hubbard was crazy.
But David Miscavige might be crazier... Anyhow, both have runned the $cientology scam at some point, which makes both dangerous sociopaths!
DarthX3nu 2 years ago 3
"You can try to fool yourself all you want, but crazy L Ron Hubbard was crazy."
oh, I'm not fooling myself. that's YOUR story.
YOU would have been one of those calling PASTEUR crazy.
""Louis Pasteur's theory of germs is ridiculous fiction." -Pierre Pachet, Professor of Physiology France, 1872
or TESLA,
"Fooling around with alternating current in just a waste of time. Nobody will use it, ever." -Thomas Edison, 1889
cont...
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
cont..
not to mention,
"I laughed till. . . my sides were sore." -Adam Sedgwick, British geologist in a letter to Darwin in regards to his theory of evolution, 1857
and,
"Airplanes are interesting toys, but of no military value." - Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy
and,
"To affirm that the aeroplane is going to 'revolutionize' naval warfare of the future is to be guilty of the wildest exaggeration." -Scientific American, 1910
etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
Well, its really sad to see how you refuse to acknowledge the wackiness of your fail prophet L Ron Hubbard, but whatever. Still, you might want to search a video called "Hubbard Completly Lossing his Mind".
Just out of pure curiosity, do you happen to believe all the lies L Ron Hubbard told about being a war hero? And a nuclear scientist?
You might want also to listen to what Arthur C. Clark had to said about LRH. Just make a search "hubbard arthur clark"
DarthX3nu 2 years ago
"Well, its really sad to see how you...'
what's REALLY sad is that you are obviously not intelligent enough to recognize ALL the times in HISTORY that something that was called "wacky" or "insane" or "batshit crazy" turned out to be RIGHT, and everyone ELSE WAS WRONG.
but people like YOU still go around doing that ANYWAY, because it's all so "OBVIOUS," JUST like it was all those OTHER times.
don't BOTHER "debating" it of course.
nah. better to just SAY it RIGHT? like ALL anons.
got it.
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
"You might want also to listen to what Arthur C. Clark had to said about LRH"
oh, you mean like what "Professor Goddard does not know the relation between action and reaction and the need to have something better than a vacuum against
which to react. He seems to lack the basic knowledge ladled out daily in high schools."
-- 1921 New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard's revolutionary rocket work.
and of course the NOBEL PRIZE for the "inventor" of the LOBOTOMY.
got it.
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
Its funny how everytime we have these lovely chats you leave out the parts you dislike of my comments. What about L Ron Hubbard being a war hero and a nucelear scientist?
Just curious...
DarthX3nu 2 years ago
'you leave out the parts you dislike of my comments."
oh, I don't "leave them out."
I only refute ONE lie at a time, not a BARRAGE, which is a typical anon tactic, hoping ONE will somehow "stick."
so merely state ONE lie at a time, and watch me CRUSH IT.
"What about L Ron Hubbard being a war hero and a nucelear scientist?"
it's utterly IRRELEVANT, and I couldn't care less about it, since if EINSTEIN and HUBBARD were PEDOPHILES, Relativity and Scientology would work JUST AS WELL!
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
Well, its actually quite relevant, since L Ron Hubbard claimed he was a war hero and a nuclear scientist to impress people. Which means, L Ron Hubbard LIED a lot about his past. Does not add much to his credibility, does it?
DarthX3nu 2 years ago
'Does not add much to his credibility, does it?"
*sigh*
you obviously don't want to get the POINT that Hubbard's "credibility" is IRRELEVANT, since Scientologists DON'T "believe" or "accept" WHAT HUBBARD SAYS ANYWAY!!
"What is true for you is what you have observed yourself and when you lose that you have lost everything . Nothing in Dianetics and Scientology is true for you unless you have observed it and it is true according to your observation. That is all."
LRH
vaLLarrr 2 years ago
No, val, thats no the way it works.
You have a dude, called L Ron Hubbard, that claims he's been a war hero and he has a degree on nuclear physics, which are both flat lies.
The he says he's invented this thing $cientology, and claims it can fix all your problems and give you "total freedom". He tells you you can try it and only take the bits of it that work for you, but does no tell you it uses techniques to brainwash people.
And then you get people that comment 24/7 on videos like you do...
DarthX3nu 2 years ago
Its really sad to see how you are brainwashed to the point you have to believe a guy loosing control like L Ron Hubbard does in this tape is some Einstein. Anyone can notice something is not sane in this man, to say the least. Anyone but a $cientologist.
You might want to search a video called "Hubbard Completly Loosing his Mind". Wonder if you will find that to be "brillian". Sure you will, L Ron Hubbard is sacred to you.
But for the rest of people, he was just a wacky conman.
DarthX3nu 2 years ago 3
Excellent find!
5star posting!
Holy fuck he was such a crazy mofo!
Ogsonofgroo 2 years ago
Many thanks for posting
StopUnumNow 2 years ago
This is just fantastic. Spread it around!
cultssuck 2 years ago
ASSESSMENT, ASSESSMENT, ASSESSMENT,
Completely, Completely, UTTERLY, UTTERLY, UTTERLY!!! (QQ)
YIK YIK YIK YAB YAB YAB -- WTF?
BONGO BONGO BONGO
ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
BANG BANG BANG
WAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!! !!!!!!!
Ron: Class dismissed!
Class Assessment? HE'S FUCKING INSANE!
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
Repetition is a HUGE part of BRAINWASHING.
Scientology calls it "drilling" and "training routines".
anonamace 2 years ago 2
Wow. I think he's trying to say that assessment is different from listing and nullting.
inkstersco 2 years ago
Listening to him is so similar to listening to Jim Jones, David Koresh or so many other sociopaths.
So obviously mentally disturbed.
cultssuck 2 years ago
1:53 And people says $cientology is safe lol
Slicolas 2 years ago
one of the funniest ever
rakovsky 2 years ago
holy shit...this man was crazy....
notchies 2 years ago
WTF??? Ya THINK he was on drugs or what? sounds like he's been up a couple days!!!
I can hear the SPIT coming out of his mouth!
LISTING and NULLING have nothing to do with each other!!
ASSESSMENT, E METER BOOK 24
fucking bat shit crazy!!!!!!!
MARYBLEUZ 2 years ago 3
he was absolutely, undeniably insane. creepy
shalindriaharam 2 years ago 2
I wonder how many courses and how much money scns have to pay before they get to listen to that rabble XD
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
Dexidrine (speed) was very popular and easy to come by in those days, Seewhatimsayin?
sixstringpsyco 2 years ago 2
Yeah, my parents said their doctors prescribed it to them because they had two kids under 3 years old and were dead tired. That was before the docs found out how dangerous it was.
parrotnutz 2 years ago
ASSESSMENT!! WOOF!!
AlmostShaoKahn 2 years ago
is this lagg or what :D the guy repeats every second word 2-3 times :D
filipeccc 2 years ago
why did no one stand up and say "aw shut up you damned fool"?
jas22 2 years ago 2
ok, and exactly what kind of accent is that? (ps...Now let me not hear in the future that somebody hasnt done it!)
Sinanimateobject 2 years ago
his disturbing diatribe along w/ the video of cows placidly grazing while he terrifies his audience in the background is single-handly the funniest thing i'v ever seen in my entire life...(literally rolling around on the floor unable to breathe...)
Sinanimateobject 2 years ago 2
No really--here's the deal with this. Hubbard, a writer of cheap alien novels (pulp) in the 30s, became obsessed with science fiction and himself. He descended into a self-aggrandizing state (basically a state of believing he was someone or something very special and spectacular) and created a "religion" that his followers later expanded into the "church" of Scientology. He was obsessed with sci-fi and with himself. THAT'S IT. That is the entire story of Scientology.
donaldTfox 2 years ago 2
Agreed. Creepy how he repeats shit and talks like a televangelist... Lullng his guillible audience into a trance.
ntelekt1 2 years ago 2
I was audited once by the IRS and they used a parking meter on me. They told me I shouldnt use my PC to file claims. They assessed that, even if I'm doped up, my thetan deduction exceeded the maximum and that I should expect NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING. So I just got back in line in the cattle chute and waited for hammertime.
spycious 3 years ago 2
Listing and Lulzing!
Listing and Lulzing!
Listing and Lulzing!
SayinItAndSprayinIt 3 years ago 2
"Listing and nulling! Listing and nulling!"
RevAlex 3 years ago
someone should make a remix of this video....hell of all scientology vids with the crazy phrases.
RedCrescentDemon 3 years ago 2
Woah...this guy is crazy....
RedCrescentDemon 3 years ago
HOLY DUMB FUCK!
WHAT IS THIS SHIT?
ericedbj 3 years ago
Re-upload file to somewhere else.
chenalos 3 years ago
uh oh... I think I lost the original! D:
DatsumJB 3 years ago
This sure explains the strange behavior of its followers!
ANON9000000 3 years ago
this is insane...this guy is psychotic!!
isophist 3 years ago 2
ANNNNNNNNND he has his own thousand member cult.
SayinItAndSprayinIt 3 years ago 2
I don't know why but I have this subconscious desire for a hamburger after this...
hiker64 3 years ago
Sounds like the guy is pissed because his people keep fucking things up. I see nothing insane about that.
Spend 13 weeks in Marine boot camp. After that this guy will seem like the calmest person on earth. lol
JunBoogy 3 years ago
His people are "fucking things up" because they're following the bullshit space-opera "tech" that he devised.
The comparison to the USMC is borderline offensive, especially since the Sea Org goons are clearly trying to model themselves after the Corps. And failing.
ChildeRolandofGilead 3 years ago
Wait. I don't understand. Are you implying there is a difference between listing and nulling vs assessment?
PointyTail 3 years ago
Listening to a mad-man rant is like watching an alcoholic get drunk; it's not funny.
Despite the harm that CoS has done to people, and the self-serving adulation Hubbard clearly craved, on hearing this you can't help but feel sympathy for this man, who was clearly psychologically disturbed.
bshieldsbb01 3 years ago
What a nutter.....not to mention the man was a bloody broker record.
ISUPPORTANON 3 years ago
and this is what totally boggles my mind....practically half of Hollywood are Scientologists!!! WTF???!!
NessawithanN 3 years ago 3
They haven't listened to that ahh "recorded lecture," maybe? BUT I tell you what, I bet Tom Cruise HAS! I don't know WHEN you learn about what was it? Oh yeah, assessment (YIKES!) but it's definitely AUDITOR TRAINING.
I would think anybody with some common sense wouldn't need all that much intelligence to realize this man was clearly disturbed. WoW! (QQ)
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
Jesus. everything I see about this guy keeps geting worse. What an insane man.
DarthX3nu 3 years ago 4
The man was speaking pure BS. I can hear the audience a bit in the background. I can't believe other people paid to hear this and were listening to pure poppycock ( Anglicized form of the Dutch pappekak, which literally means soft dung or diarrhea)?
This is the "religion" that Tom Cruise is espousing.
eeepic 3 years ago 2
Yik~Yik Yab~Yab!!!Listing & Nulling Its all quite simple...All one must do is Yik only as much as the Pre-Clear Yabs, if one over Yiks well then the pre-clear might tend to mal-Yab to the point of Listing and we cant have that if we want him to be Nulling, so its easy for you to stay on a Yik-Yik, Then Yab in that order no one will Yab before they Yic-Yic for then the Assesment will not Yab but completely Yic.. and no Nulling,Nulling will only assecc the Yac-Yac..BE PREPAIRED PEOPLE no LIST/NULL
fzappa007 3 years ago 3
What year was this?
Sinjinator 3 years ago
1968
DatsumJB 3 years ago
The year was 2776,in the r"y"ear of the"MOST BEUTIFULL PENITRATING L-RONPOOPDEDOOPER"the year we be betrexted to diexlapax and twiver to the ethicklZanopreme sundrie operational spritzQuadrothwapidz...it was so beutiful,I personly had a colon packed and full of L-Ronzo-semonalistrom it was seeping out of the folds of my dielaXopreme ethic suite but I had a qwick change into my blastoVixon delaKolitis flatulenze diaper in order to keep my new ethiKalostomy in order,if you know what I mean,DO YOU?
fzappa007 3 years ago 2
yes, I DO. finally, FINALLY SOMEONE ANSWERS MY QUESTION!! Listen to every word that is said here peoples, it is all very important! Prepare your lists and null assessments! :P
Sinjinator 3 years ago
wonder what he was on during this lecture...
crazy ramblings and racing thoughts....what a lunatic!
MARYBLEUZ 3 years ago 2
What a complete lunatic.Prepared list,what the fuck is he on.
squilky1951 3 years ago
the ravings of a scam artist lunatic......
MaryOMackie 3 years ago 3
This is my favorite elron remix! Very inspiring.
OnlyLoveCanDoThat 3 years ago
You better watch out! You better be nice! He's making a list and nulling it twice.
MikeOfKorea 3 years ago 6
operation listing and nulling assessment at your local org... begin. so easy to enturbulate orgs with this blasting on the boombox. ASSESSMENT!
W0LF20009 3 years ago 8
ooooohhh my bleeding ears...aaahhhhhh!!!!
great idea WOLF..Operation "LISTING & NULLING"
SWEEEEEEET
fzappa007 3 years ago
You know, there is something strange that links this video and Hubbards ranting. Dat! You are an artist! LOL
PointyTail 3 years ago 4
:D :D
DatsumJB 3 years ago
This is one Lron piece I have never heard. Good grief, this guy was so mentally ill! This is so bizarre.
Forseti4xenu 3 years ago 6
He admits this shit practically kills people? nice
fitch2000 3 years ago 5
hahahahaha!
good old crazy L. Ron <333
SPGoblivion 3 years ago 4
not so much to laugh about after finding out how much damage this bizarre cult has done to cult members and families...oops, forgot about anyone who leaves the cult or disagrees with them. Even reporters and newspapers. Miscavige rants about totally obliterating psychiatry! He... who so obviously needs it!
parrotnutz 2 years ago
oops, should have said.....needed it; the whack job is dead. The crazy cult said he "left' his body" because he no longer needed it to continue his "important" research!
parrotnutz 2 years ago
BONGO BONGO BONGO
exfalsoquodlibet 3 years ago 4
Wow. Bipolar disorder in spades. He needed some serious psychiatric help.
PointyTail 3 years ago 5
Yik Yik Yik Yab Yab Yab. haha
Bonezmayon 3 years ago 4
He was probably on some sort of drugs, and was getting pissed because he wanted to take a break and snort some more.
ProfessorxVile 3 years ago 2
Moar! luv to see LRH descend into the pit of his rage and paranoia.
Enturbanon 3 years ago 3
And the moral of this story is, "ASSESSMENT!". I thought it was bad enough that they had to pay money to hear the xenu story.
zambimaru 3 years ago
Oh holy shit. As listening to this, it's really scary.
rubyfire 3 years ago 5
Utterly utterly udder!
Relikvie 3 years ago 5
This explains so much about Cruise's infamous fruitloop video leak! L Ron is in serious need of assessment, nurse!
laserofjustice 3 years ago 5
I think he may be wanting assesment from a prepared list or something, I think.
analyzingfunny 3 years ago 3
Funkin nuts. Fuck You Scientology for what you did to Gareth Cales in LA, you disgusting cult. Fail cult, fail.
analyzingfunny 3 years ago 8
hubbard was daarn crazy, but god damn he knew how to make people's lives better, it has certainly changed my life studying scientology, thats something i'll never forget.
DeathereX 3 years ago
It hurts my head :( he won't stop repeating himself :X
pecaall 3 years ago 5
I would love to walk in LRH's office while he was recording this and then shoot him in the head and watch his body drop like a sack of potatoes. I just want to put the poor fuck out of his misery
ilikeflickerstick 3 years ago 9
"I just want to put the poor fuck out of his misery"
You're a few years too late, lol...
FreePlay 3 years ago 4
Freakin great. Biting off my thetan fingernails now.
skoek 3 years ago 5
I think Charles Manson attended this lecture
takerdust 3 years ago 12
notice the lack of scilon commentary? all the best videos they steer completely clear of.
Ironhead097 3 years ago 10
Yup. Fair use clips of an audio tape of Hubbard going bonkers is a great way to make Scientologists run in the opposite direction. Especially if they're not cleared to listen to it at their auditing level.
DatsumJB 3 years ago
stoner rock indeed
mulattorus 3 years ago 4
stoner rock!!!
toecutterr6 3 years ago 5
psychotic cunt
TheVagoo 3 years ago 4
LOL
skoek 3 years ago 5
dumb ass scientology
ArianHabibi458 3 years ago 3
"Hey, buddy. Go over there and ask that fat red-headed guy if assessment has anything to do with nulling. I'll wait here." :D
ChristopherBradley 3 years ago 5
lol "made up"
ur freud slipped
sadriaens 3 years ago 3
hey kids, let this be a warning to you...if you drink rum and pop pinks and greys, you may end up sounding like this lunatic! (This was in a letter to his wife). To think $cientology is against drugs and psychiatry! They should listen to their drugged out insane leader!
parrotnutz 3 years ago 2
LOL @ 2:22
DREAMED!
TheVagoo 3 years ago
so you had to pay $360k for this ....
zaqmlp1234 3 years ago 3
what a fucking lunatic. and people actually listen to this asshole's ramblings and promote scientology. man people are dumb.
jnycnuk 3 years ago