Wow, I'm totally in the minority here. This is more interesting than you guys give it credit for, and I really think you just hate that you have to do it for homework.
@chessykit I heard from my friend who's one grade above me that it's boring. This year I did it and I was probably the only one in class who listened not only because he had to.
im not doing this instead of reading it for school.... god, id way rather read it than watch this. my teacher made us watch some of it at school and wants us to write an essay on whether or not sophocles would approve... ugh i don't like this version though the whole thing is inside i imagined it to be like outside :/
@tinawerewolfgirl My teacher said she says it that way because her students are immature, and when you say it out loud (correctly), it sounds like "eat a puss".
Fuck all you damn high school kids who are too lazy to read the damn play! Shame on you, it's actually a really good play. I enjoyed it a lot when I read it in high school...which is why it's ok that I'm watching it now instead of reading it for my presentation tomorrow.
I absolutely hated this when I was forced to study it in high school. Thought I would die of boredom. Now, years later, I'm able to fully appreciate it. Found a love for this story I never imagined I'd have.
i have to do the king speech to the senators for a drama exam. Its so llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg and boring.
@mirandalazdans Watch oedipus the king. Creon is Oedipus's cousin. When Oedipus was banished from thebes for birthing children with his own mother, one of his sons became king and once they killed each other the next person in the family was Creon since he cared for all of Oedipus's children after Oedipus was banished and their mother commited suicide.
You know, we have to read this play in Theater class and our teacher told us to read it beforehand so that we understand it better... Torture. Complete torture.
I enjoy reading plays but just not this one, actually. This play is very weird. I mean, Antigone's Dad is her "brother." And Her Mom is her Grandma too.
Really, I had to do this play in Drama class....I didn't like it at first, but I somehow like it. It's a good movie, if they just made a revision, like they made a revision of Van Helsing, or KING KONG....
Not quite clear what era this adaption is set...i mean, i know the play is set in Ancient Greece, but the setting, the costumes and the actors are rather ambiguous.
ugh we read this in class and i almost fell asleep during it, so now we're having a test in two days and now i'm doomed so i came to watch this boring movie...lol
"Yet, its impossible to understand the soul, the mind the wisdom of any man before hes tested by the great power and laws." - am very grateful for this quote of (in the Homeric sense) divine Sophocles; because of it I will never again have to quote Lincoln on that subject: "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - as one should never employ modern folk if ancient wisdom is available...
I think the actors in this version of the Theban plays are dressed in clothes from all periods of history to give the play a universal character. You will find costumes from antiquity, the Napeleon age, Victorian England and the twentieth century. The themes and motives from these plays, especially Oedipus Rex, are valid in all times, best shown, maybe, by the use of the Oedipus-theme by Freud. You will find different accents(cockney working class e.g.) as well as clothes for the same reason.
Haha I'm gunna have to tell my teacher bout this cuz she said she wanted to show our class this movie but a copy costs like 200 bucks. shes gunna be happy
Creon is sermonising, a sign of insecurity about himself or his intellect. The lecture as to what is state, what is loyalty, and what is necessary to preserve the state, shows the thoughts of a tyrant.
...Adolf Hitler as he in some sense is power hungry and questions both the rights of the state and the individuals. In every sense he resembles a tyrant ...and like Donald Tsang, he uses his actions to appeal to the society. He deprives the individuals burial rights and instead would rather appeal to the society. A society is made up of individuals with rights. When the rights are gone, the society slowly begins to become like a dictatorship. ( Maybe its just me but this reminds me of WWII)
I agree and disagree with the actions of Creon. Although I think it's very legitimate for Polycines to not be buried as he has fought against his own nation and damned all the people there. I think this is one of the worst crimes you can commit and since you can't be sentenced to death or put in jail after you die, the next most reasonable thing to do would be to not bury him. Setting him up for worst thing. Apart from this I think that Creon is an extreme leader. He actually reminds me of
Now that I have thought about it, Polynices does deserve to be buried, although he commited wrong in going against Thebes, if you take a kind of christian aspect, everyone deserves to explain themselves and be judged by their chosen god. (in this case the greek ones) Everyone should be able to be with their families and loved ones for eternity. This is what Antigone has realized. go her!
The audience of this play can tell that Creon enjoys his power to be king. He also enforces laws that don't affect the entire society. Instead his new law only applies to his own opinions about Polynices, Antigone's brother. While he thinks that Polynices shouldn't be buried, others, such as Antigone, may not think so. Yes, Polynices WAS a traitor, but that doesn't change the fact that he still remains Antigone's brother. In Greek culture, having a proper burial for your family members is a
... ... and enjoy the play to a higher level. This is just like how the directors of the Odyssey added in the Judeo-Christian view of hell, to appeal to larger audience.
(AJ) ... ... proper burial, lest he should suffer "everlasting anguish and wandering without rest". Another thing I noticed was from the dialogue of the messenger, which obviously was affected by modern day influence. For example, the man had an extremely heavy accent, which almost seemed comical and relieving, and he also talked about several modern day things, such as a firing squad. I believe this man was placed into the play to appeal to the modern day audience, who would understand ...
(AJ) ... ... of Thebes, no matter if the action is moral or not. This disgracing of Polynices is one of these decisions. The lack of a burial for Polynices, one who committed treason, will strike as a warning for the people of Thebes, sending the messages that ones who disobey and rule of law will be punished. This is good for Thebes in the long run, setting up a foundation for the laws that should be followed, however it infringes on the rights of Polynices, who deserves to at least have a ...
(AJ) Kreon seems like a king that would put the priority of the state over everything else. Judging by the situation of Thebes - just after the story of Oedipus Rex and the deaths of the two heirs of the throne - Eteocles and Polynices, this behavior is very understandable. After all, after such tragedies, who would want the state to fall into an every deeper state of despair? With this cautious attitude, Kreon seemed to make some unjust decisions - making moves for the greater good ... ... ...
Kreon presented his rule of law very clearly; yet no justice was shown. Kreon spoke of his intentions and his rule and shared it with the chorus; however he never asked them of what they would advise. He makes it seem that the rights of state is so important, how any enemy of the state will be an enemy of his; however, how will it regard the rights of state by burying or not burying a person? yes it may raise some disagreements but it will not harm the state.
Creon is portrayed as desperately power hungry and brings about much debate between the state's rights and the individual's rights. It seems that he puts himself, and the rights of Thebes as a society much before an individual's, such as Polycines's, who received no burial even as Prince of Thebes. He enforces his laws and neglects the individual human rights, certainly not signs of a good King.
i disagree with what the chorus said about the responsibility to be Creon alone. Even though Creon is king, he should give a law that is not made by him, but is made by the whole government. He says that he has absolute power, which is not good because he could quickly turn into a tyrant instead of him being king. he talks about how everyone has a price that he can be bought by. is this foreshadowing? Which is another reason why no one should have sole-power over a government.
However, since Polynices is not to be buried, he is unable to live in the underworld, and must still suffer on the land of the living after he is already dead.
Kreon seems to be desperate to secure his power as the king, by enforcing laws that do not particularly serve any purpose to the society as a whole. I feel that the laws that he makes is completely forgetting the 'rule of law', because no longer are the laws made to bring about security to the citizens, but are of personal benefit to the king. Also, Kreon is denying humans their right, because according to the Greeks, those who died lived in an underworld.
I think Creon is too arrogant. When Oedipus was king, Creon said that he didn't have any wish to become king. Now that he is the king, he believes that what he thinks is justified sets the whole standard of what is right and what is wrong. Just because he's the king, doesn't mean that what he says is always right.
8:06 A firing squad?? There's definitely a large modern influence here. This messenger is very much a sort of comic relief. His manner is very different from the atmosphere Kreon created. And the laws are apparently quite effective. The messenger himself says he was scared when he saw the body gone, knowing it was illegal, and didn't want to confront the king.
I agree with what has been said. it seems to me like Kreon is trying to fill Oedipus's shoes and take over his role. I think he has always been jealous, and this viscous thirst for power has caused him to enforce his own rules and try to govern the state in a way that only he deems right. This is definitely un just, he is like a modern day corrupt leader. Jonathan Raines
Again, Kreon makes his laws quite clear. As he himself, rather vehemently, states to the council. He obviously puts the state's welfare high above the individual's rights, and everyone knows it. He seems very power hungry, and it's a bit ironic, when in Oedipus Rex, he declared that he would never crave Oedipus' position, because of all the responsibilities being king entailed. But now that he is king, he seems to be enjoying it quite a lot, and is certainly very assertive of his authority.
Kreon seems like he is a power seeker. Also, i feel like he is trying to get back at Oedipus by doing this to his son. I agree with Morgan. He is not giving people their human rights. To have a proper burial was very important and to take that right away is not fair.
I disagree with Creon, by proclaiming title of ruler and enforcing his power. He is making sure that people fear his laws so they dont break them. He is trying to prevent people of their human rights, which is why he is upset once he finds out that Anitgone's brother is being buried.
In this scene we can see how Creon's promotion to king has changed him. His whole view of justice had been altered. He genuinely believes that because he is King, what he says is law, and during this time he was right because his people carried out what ever he said. I think he would have strongly agreed with Cicero because he is using his reason to govern the city. He thinks that it is best that polynices should not be buried because it will inspire others to refrain from acting like polynices
I don't think Cicero would have agreed with Kreon. Nobody likes an autocratic ruler who is oppressive, and Kreon certainly seems to enjoy his position a bit too much. Cicero's reason was more of an innate moral feeling. An innate feeling of what is just and right, which is in accordance with the natural Law. And because of this innate sense of justice, good laws are made. Cicero's reason is not really logic, which I think you're trying to say Kreon is acting logically.
...of behavior by showing the punishment brought by committing this crime. Nowadays, we know that the "stoning" punishment is cruel and torturous (and it violates one of the universal rights), but back then it was probably the most effective way of publicly punishing someone. I think that the stoning of anyone who tries to cover the body is a very harsh punishment for the crime in question, but then again you have to put it in context and try to understand what Creon was trying to achieve.
Creon believes that Polynices is getting the punishment that he deserves. Polynices already received somewhat of a punishment, he rebelled, and his attempt caused him failure and a brutal death. Polynices is dead, and now Creon's law about anyone who buries him should be stoned to death is really only punishing Polynices' only family, his sisters, who have been completely innocent throughout all of this. Also, like people have said already, I think that Creon is being extremely over reactive.
Creon seems kind of arrogant about being king, considering that in the play 'Oedipus Rex', he said that he would not want the responsibilities of being king.
I can understand where Creon is coming from -- he seems to be quite patriotic, and he wishes to keep his kingdom intact and safe. "Polynices, who returned here at the head of a foreign army to destroy his homeland, burn down this city and reduce the people to slavery." <-- it would only be natural for him to want to discourage this type...
I believe that it is correct for Creon to deny this from Antigone. Nobody is above the law. Even if the people who try to bury Polynecies are stoned to death for their lack of observance for the law, it is only correct, sometimes the ends justify the means. For example, is it okay to kill one person to save a thousand peoples' lives? It may not seem just in the process, but in the end, the ends justify the means. It was wrong of the people to disobey the law. Laws are there for a reason.
Though I despise Creon and his unnecessary determination to prove his power, I don't really agree with what you said about how Creon is technically a murderer because he created the law about being stoned to death. He creates this law because he wants to PREVENT the burial of Polynices. He is simply making the people fear his laws so that Polynices will not be buried. I don't think that he should be portrayed as a murderer.
Good insight, Gordon. Recall that Odipus made a proclamation that also carried the force of law (find the offender, exile) and he did not exclude himself. Once convinced by clear evidence, he submitted to his own sentence.
I agree with Kunal. Why is Creon wearing a suit with a cape? Anyways, on to the actual story. Creon is very extreme here, something that's been pointed out before. He's obviously a little desperate to make people think he's a strong king, and he's trying to prove the strength of Thebes through the treatment of Polynices' body. He also seems a bit more power hungry than Oedipus. He's just been crowned, yet he seems convinced that he should be a better king than Oedipus and Laius combined.
Does Creon have the right to deny Antigone of her brother's burial? In my opinion no he does not. Whether or not the man was a rebel has nothing to do with it. Now that he is dead, the family should be able to hold on to the remains and do what they can to try and say their final goodbye. The act of denying a burial is cruel and unjust, and is partly for the reason that he may not live peacefully in the afterlife. There must be some pity! It just seems very unjust to me.
By creating the law that states that anyone that buries Polynices should be stoned to death, isn't Kreon just as bad as those who would murder, because by writing the law, he would be killing, simply indirectly? Kreon might as well have been as oblivious as Oedipus because wouldn't his actions of disrespecting the dead anger his gods (in the setting of the play)?
I believe that the only reason that no one, other than Antigone had rebelled against Kreon becoming ruler was because he was cleverly putting harsh laws into place, indirectly placing fear into the society's hearts. Even though Oedipus had done many grossly "wrong" things, he had at least been a ruler that seemed to show genuine care for his people. Kreon seems so manipulative and greedy when he says that Thebes is "mine by right...I claim it".
there would have been a severe power vacuum similar to in the days before WW1 which would have resulted in all out war and destruction, so i think that it was best that he took over while he could. But i think that he is abusing his power by declaring that Polynices cannot be buried, and those that break this law will be put to death
I was confused when Creon addressed the choir as his counsel. I was under the impression that in greek plays the choir was on the side, and not really a part of the actual discourse. This was one way that BBC decided to adapt the original into a more modern play.
I believe that Creon's sentence is somewhat just because Polynecies did commit treason which was considered a great offense to their fatherland. Also, Creon's policy was really straightforward, how everyone is bonded together in society, if one fall they all fall. So Polynecies was wrong, as a king or ruler, these laws have to be enforced. If people didn't listen to you, then what kind of ruler are you? You have to show the people that you're powerful and you mean business. Jason Chou
The case of Creon vs. Antigone is an example of individual rights or societys rights. The rights of the society are being fulfilled because Polyneices was a traitor, however the rights of him as an individual and of Antigone to be able to bury his body are being harshly discarded.
For an example in the movie Troy, Achilles kills Hector and drags him back to their tents and doesn't want to bury him properly. However, the father of Hector goes to Achilles and begs for his son's body back to bury him and so Achilles does. Even Achilles is a better man than Creon. Creon is going a bit too far with the whole "leave him to the birds so they can feast on him" and so on.
I think that there are some strange choices made in the production of this play. For one thing, all of the characters are wearing relatively modern clothing, and the senators/ choir are wearing judges uniforms as if they are holding back their opinions about Creon's actions.
I think that Creon has become an absolute ruler. Oedipus and Laius before him never had to deal with this issue, since Oedipus and Laius both chose to share their power with those around them, and split it equally.
I think that Creon is taking away Polynices right to remain resting in peace, as well as Polynices' familial rights to decide how their family member should be placed. Thus, the rule of law is not upheld in the Greek society shown in this video because of Creon's position as king, he is placed above the law and instead of law having absolute rule, Creon has absolute rule in society.- Vivienne
What is the purpose of the Choir people? And realy, what is the big deal about someone being buried. Its Oedipus's son so doesnt the sisters get some kind of say in the matter? I'm glad that Antigone buried him because Creon will be proved wrong about the righteousness of the laws, she has every right to. Who is he to say no and he also had said previously that he didn not care for the throne but he's taking the power of being a King way too far
I think the choir are acting as 'society' in this. They are the voice of the common people. And Creon is so strict about this burying ordeal because he is so transfixed on teaching his people a lesson. He wants the people of Thebes to acknowledge and respect his rule and law because 'after all, he is king', and he is caught up in thinking that because he is king, he is law.
The conflict between individual rights and rights of society, as a whole, was as pressing for the ancient Greek city-states as it is for the modern nation. Antigone is exemplary of the passionate dissenters in history and continues to be subversive and powerful play.
I dont think the sentencing was just. Everyone should have the right to be buried properly, even a convicted killer or traitor. Also, I dont believe Polyneices was necessarily in the wrong. He was not coming to attack the city but to get back the throne he was entitled to from his brother who was refusing to give it up. His brother was also breaking laws, so why should he be the only one to get a proper burial?
I don't think that Creon should be so angered about Polynecies who is already dead which means that Creon can't do anything about it anymore. I also think that he is over reacting over everything, i don't think that Creon's sentence is just.
After watching this part, I thought that Creon is a person who would want to hunt you down so that justice would be served. Just like how Creon mentioned that he would use death as a punishment. Also why is Creon still angered by Polynecies, I mean he is dead already so what could he do about it? In addition to this, I also think that Polynicies should deserve to have some form of burial, because it is just like disowning a family member, so it would be a heartless action in not doing so.
I think that Creon's sentencewas not just, it would have been a good way to show citizens what you get for going against this society which definitely would create a lot of fear in them, but overall everyone (good or bad) deserves the right to their own proper burial, as everyone deserves the right to be respected alive and dead. In this case, I would rather the individual override society. Individuals make up the society, and they all deserve the same respect no matter what.
I thought that Creon's sentence was just, as Polyneices as rebelled against his own fatherland, although I believe that Creon posting guards around the body, as well as declaring death for anyone burying the body is going overboard-there are better things to do than such things, and death is too big of a punishment.
I also think its a waste of resources for Creon to put guards around the body of polyneices. I think he is talking it a bit seriously. I mean the man is already dead, its not like he can do any more harm.
I understand why Creon would want to forbid anyone from burying polyneices or mourning for him, because he wanted the destruction of the city and its people. I think this is unrealistic because you can't really forbid someone to mourn over the death of a friend or family member. I also think that he should allow him to be buried away from the city by antigone because of the importance funeral ceremonies played in those days.
i like the fact that they are elderly men as was intended in the original by Sophocles chorus. They're not singing as the dioces would during a traditional greek play but the music lets us know what is intended... i also like the steps... Creon throughout onsiders himself higher than everyone else throughout the play - it is only at the end he realises , too late like Macbeth and Dr Fraustus, that they are the sole icon within the tragedy.. victims of their own demise.
this play the whole thing is just brillient. i love it i read the whole thing line for line about 10 times. antigone is such a strong woman. i really look up to her, she stuck up for hat she belived in and suffered a terrible price.
Is that Dr.Evil?
chachachaves93 6 days ago
I like Turtles
XSMGollnickX23 1 month ago
fuck english plass per 3. we have a quiz tommorow on the book. is it the same exact story in this as in the book?
toodlerjackass 1 month ago
@toodlerjackass lol i hope so i have the same thing
sagixcv10 4 weeks ago in playlist Antigone by Sophocles (1984 TV) complete in 11 parts
Wow, I'm totally in the minority here. This is more interesting than you guys give it credit for, and I really think you just hate that you have to do it for homework.
chessykit 1 month ago 2
@chessykit I heard from my friend who's one grade above me that it's boring. This year I did it and I was probably the only one in class who listened not only because he had to.
asafk8 2 weeks ago
thunder, ghost, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
DuxRomanorum 1 month ago
This is just AWEFUL at least the chorus part, thats as far as we got in English
MrJondoe981 2 months ago
im playing halo while listing to it lololololololol
30Zoidberg 2 months ago
im not doing this instead of reading it for school.... god, id way rather read it than watch this. my teacher made us watch some of it at school and wants us to write an essay on whether or not sophocles would approve... ugh i don't like this version though the whole thing is inside i imagined it to be like outside :/
tinawerewolfgirl 3 months ago
@tinawerewolfgirl the script says its outside
BryonAWitHonors 2 months ago
@BryonAWitHonors yeah? so thats why lol. well then THEY SHOULDA DONE IT OUTSIDE!
but i guess that was the point
tinawerewolfgirl 2 months ago 2
King Edipus? EEdipus?.... my teacher said it sounded like eh-dipus.
tinawerewolfgirl 3 months ago
@tinawerewolfgirl My teacher said she says it that way because her students are immature, and when you say it out loud (correctly), it sounds like "eat a puss".
chessykit 1 month ago
Am I the only one watching this just cause I felt like it? :o
austin4181 3 months ago 3
Fuck all you damn high school kids who are too lazy to read the damn play! Shame on you, it's actually a really good play. I enjoyed it a lot when I read it in high school...which is why it's ok that I'm watching it now instead of reading it for my presentation tomorrow.
StonerPunk666 3 months ago 3
so boringg,,,,,,,,, why do i have to watch this for english homework :(
fromm your sister
ilovetaylorswifty133 3 months ago
Hurriken
koenan1 3 months ago in playlist Antigone by Sophocles (1984 TV) complete in 11 parts
anyone else enjoying the moyocyle driver in the backround running laps?
LowJackKoJack 3 months ago
@LowJackKoJack you can't blame him! Creon said he'd kill him if he stopped even for a second!
BryonAWitHonors 2 months ago
Wow,some people just dont understand how amazing this play is...too bad for them.
asiakia123 4 months ago
*** wipes drool off Macbook***
mani0sos3xy 4 months ago in playlist More videos from ShakespeareAndMore
The guard was funny, at least.
Antigone1Evenstar 4 months ago
so guys what was the answer for ur homework
PierProductions1 4 months ago
Damn you ENGLISH!@#!@#!@#
canter23 4 months ago
Lol the guard is such a spaz :P Love.
(He deserves comments tooo!!!)
meowmecomics 5 months ago
I watched because Christopher Hitchens mentioned "Antigone" in one of his talks. Thanks for the video! I remember VHS. 8)
csnowutube 7 months ago
o_o maybe reading it is better than watching this shit
xdirt3 7 months ago
@xdirt3 no no no don't ever think like that....
xXCORNNXx 6 months ago
ohmygod i need to exam this story of my englit exam tmr
but it is really boring... felling asleep....
maymay588 7 months ago
what a crap
naivelittlepotimist 8 months ago
the chorus guys seem like right fun sponges
annatatton1993 9 months ago
i have to do watch all the antigone movies for my english oral D: KILL ME!!!!!
GRACELUVSTOKIOHOTEL 10 months ago
FuuuucK!!!!!
x7Chaosbullet 11 months ago
The chorus is gold. I love it.
AziralVA 11 months ago
hmmm i dont understand it at all,, but it is my Homework of Drama subject at school huufff
duiduiable 11 months ago
buzzing drive me crazy
16bitwars 11 months ago
I absolutely hated this when I was forced to study it in high school. Thought I would die of boredom. Now, years later, I'm able to fully appreciate it. Found a love for this story I never imagined I'd have.
Jess0062 11 months ago
Did anyone else notice the king is the puppy killer who couldn't talk from 101 dalmations?
Stuhby 11 months ago 2
i have to do the king speech to the senators for a drama exam. Its so llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg and boring.
weirdlightsaber44 1 year ago
@weirdlightsaber44 you clearly don't understand the wisdom behind it ;). don't be an actor if you think thats boring
BryonAWitHonors 2 months ago
kill me drama project
io161010 1 year ago
THIS IS SUCH AN AWFUL MOVIE kill me
MsDanceintherain 1 year ago
Creon is way too old, he is meant to be young and inexperienced, Antigone is meant to be hot but the chorus is casted well :D
MrSlothinator5000 1 year ago
@MrSlothinator5000 ikr. i always imagined antigone to be really pretty.
tinawerewolfgirl 3 months ago
what the ? ! this is sooo boring !!! i hate chorus .. what the heck are they saying ???
gatchanpoh000 1 year ago
I hate myself for hating this so much, I know it's ancient and genius and whatever and usually I really like plays and literature and shizzle
but it feels as if I've been watching this all my life and I want to pull my brains out through my nose
queenjaime 1 year ago
listening to the buzzing noises makes me want to go through the screen and say " what the f*** is this sound going on?!"
jtadore9 1 year ago
what are this farting noises?????
arkonllf 1 year ago 2
i think they should redo this movie and have anigone played by angelina jolie...
shmahoogale 1 year ago
@shmahoogale blech no no no no
BryonAWitHonors 2 months ago
my earrrrrrrssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
TheSteezyCheese 1 year ago 5
Who's watching this for english?
forkmorktork 1 year ago 7
im just like everyone who wrote a comment
its the most painful thing to watch its only part 2 and it seems like 2 hours have passed
too bad i need this for school :A:A
Loriiik 1 year ago
y is dr. evil the new king
mirandalazdans 1 year ago
@mirandalazdans Watch Oedipus the King (The original mother f***er! LOL).
abrown145 1 year ago
@mirandalazdans Watch oedipus the king. Creon is Oedipus's cousin. When Oedipus was banished from thebes for birthing children with his own mother, one of his sons became king and once they killed each other the next person in the family was Creon since he cared for all of Oedipus's children after Oedipus was banished and their mother commited suicide.
abrown145 1 year ago
watching this is painful, shame this is for my english project
antypantyat 1 year ago 46
@antypantyat lmfaoo mee too. what skool doo you g2 xD. No worries i wont stalk you :P
xxEMOcutiepiexx 1 year ago
@antypantyat IQ academy?
bmjdtheshow 3 weeks ago
You know, we have to read this play in Theater class and our teacher told us to read it beforehand so that we understand it better... Torture. Complete torture.
I enjoy reading plays but just not this one, actually. This play is very weird. I mean, Antigone's Dad is her "brother." And Her Mom is her Grandma too.
OMG. This is so disgusting...
scottluvsjenna 1 year ago
Really, I had to do this play in Drama class....I didn't like it at first, but I somehow like it. It's a good movie, if they just made a revision, like they made a revision of Van Helsing, or KING KONG....
drumelimination 1 year ago
Not quite clear what era this adaption is set...i mean, i know the play is set in Ancient Greece, but the setting, the costumes and the actors are rather ambiguous.
ladyrenegade96 1 year ago
ugh we read this in class and i almost fell asleep during it, so now we're having a test in two days and now i'm doomed so i came to watch this boring movie...lol
kitty12345678900 1 year ago
Thank You- so much help with Drama and Theatre A level!! x
beenhereb4 1 year ago
Chorus: BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAAAHHH
SunriseGloryx 1 year ago 55
thank you for putting these videos of the
Greatest play ever written on youtube!
atfatw 1 year ago
"Yet, its impossible to understand the soul, the mind the wisdom of any man before hes tested by the great power and laws." - am very grateful for this quote of (in the Homeric sense) divine Sophocles; because of it I will never again have to quote Lincoln on that subject: "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - as one should never employ modern folk if ancient wisdom is available...
GreatGrumbledook 2 years ago
Why are the actors dressed in modern type clothes instead of in Ancient Greek type clothes?
OmegaWolf747 2 years ago 2
It's because it is supposed to be antigone in a world war 1 setting. Dramatists love doing things like that
Ke1raak 2 years ago
Its cheaper!
JanetteHeffernan 1 year ago
I think the actors in this version of the Theban plays are dressed in clothes from all periods of history to give the play a universal character. You will find costumes from antiquity, the Napeleon age, Victorian England and the twentieth century. The themes and motives from these plays, especially Oedipus Rex, are valid in all times, best shown, maybe, by the use of the Oedipus-theme by Freud. You will find different accents(cockney working class e.g.) as well as clothes for the same reason.
ThinkGentle 2 years ago
my english honors finals tmmro has a big section of antigone, so im glad i found this video, but the play is so boring
angelica797 2 years ago
Haha I'm gunna have to tell my teacher bout this cuz she said she wanted to show our class this movie but a copy costs like 200 bucks. shes gunna be happy
scbe6811 2 years ago
Creon is sermonising, a sign of insecurity about himself or his intellect. The lecture as to what is state, what is loyalty, and what is necessary to preserve the state, shows the thoughts of a tyrant.
Walls2008 2 years ago
does anybody else think this guy looks like dr. evil?
supersonicfan84 2 years ago
hahahahaha seriously xP
8990609 2 years ago
...Adolf Hitler as he in some sense is power hungry and questions both the rights of the state and the individuals. In every sense he resembles a tyrant ...and like Donald Tsang, he uses his actions to appeal to the society. He deprives the individuals burial rights and instead would rather appeal to the society. A society is made up of individuals with rights. When the rights are gone, the society slowly begins to become like a dictatorship. ( Maybe its just me but this reminds me of WWII)
fhmlo 2 years ago
I agree and disagree with the actions of Creon. Although I think it's very legitimate for Polycines to not be buried as he has fought against his own nation and damned all the people there. I think this is one of the worst crimes you can commit and since you can't be sentenced to death or put in jail after you die, the next most reasonable thing to do would be to not bury him. Setting him up for worst thing. Apart from this I think that Creon is an extreme leader. He actually reminds me of
fhmlo 2 years ago
Now that I have thought about it, Polynices does deserve to be buried, although he commited wrong in going against Thebes, if you take a kind of christian aspect, everyone deserves to explain themselves and be judged by their chosen god. (in this case the greek ones) Everyone should be able to be with their families and loved ones for eternity. This is what Antigone has realized. go her!
bradfordlex 2 years ago
very important aspect and it shows respect. If the body isn't buried, the person will not be able to enter the Underworld.
thefeliciat619 2 years ago
The audience of this play can tell that Creon enjoys his power to be king. He also enforces laws that don't affect the entire society. Instead his new law only applies to his own opinions about Polynices, Antigone's brother. While he thinks that Polynices shouldn't be buried, others, such as Antigone, may not think so. Yes, Polynices WAS a traitor, but that doesn't change the fact that he still remains Antigone's brother. In Greek culture, having a proper burial for your family members is a
thefeliciat619 2 years ago
... ... and enjoy the play to a higher level. This is just like how the directors of the Odyssey added in the Judeo-Christian view of hell, to appeal to larger audience.
applejuice1000000 2 years ago
(AJ) ... ... proper burial, lest he should suffer "everlasting anguish and wandering without rest". Another thing I noticed was from the dialogue of the messenger, which obviously was affected by modern day influence. For example, the man had an extremely heavy accent, which almost seemed comical and relieving, and he also talked about several modern day things, such as a firing squad. I believe this man was placed into the play to appeal to the modern day audience, who would understand ...
applejuice1000000 2 years ago
(AJ) ... ... of Thebes, no matter if the action is moral or not. This disgracing of Polynices is one of these decisions. The lack of a burial for Polynices, one who committed treason, will strike as a warning for the people of Thebes, sending the messages that ones who disobey and rule of law will be punished. This is good for Thebes in the long run, setting up a foundation for the laws that should be followed, however it infringes on the rights of Polynices, who deserves to at least have a ...
applejuice1000000 2 years ago
(AJ) Kreon seems like a king that would put the priority of the state over everything else. Judging by the situation of Thebes - just after the story of Oedipus Rex and the deaths of the two heirs of the throne - Eteocles and Polynices, this behavior is very understandable. After all, after such tragedies, who would want the state to fall into an every deeper state of despair? With this cautious attitude, Kreon seemed to make some unjust decisions - making moves for the greater good ... ... ...
applejuice1000000 2 years ago
Kreon presented his rule of law very clearly; yet no justice was shown. Kreon spoke of his intentions and his rule and shared it with the chorus; however he never asked them of what they would advise. He makes it seem that the rights of state is so important, how any enemy of the state will be an enemy of his; however, how will it regard the rights of state by burying or not burying a person? yes it may raise some disagreements but it will not harm the state.
hlaw110360 2 years ago
Creon is portrayed as desperately power hungry and brings about much debate between the state's rights and the individual's rights. It seems that he puts himself, and the rights of Thebes as a society much before an individual's, such as Polycines's, who received no burial even as Prince of Thebes. He enforces his laws and neglects the individual human rights, certainly not signs of a good King.
AnnieeTing 2 years ago
i disagree with what the chorus said about the responsibility to be Creon alone. Even though Creon is king, he should give a law that is not made by him, but is made by the whole government. He says that he has absolute power, which is not good because he could quickly turn into a tyrant instead of him being king. he talks about how everyone has a price that he can be bought by. is this foreshadowing? Which is another reason why no one should have sole-power over a government.
holyoak83 2 years ago
However, since Polynices is not to be buried, he is unable to live in the underworld, and must still suffer on the land of the living after he is already dead.
bowiiex3 2 years ago
Kreon seems to be desperate to secure his power as the king, by enforcing laws that do not particularly serve any purpose to the society as a whole. I feel that the laws that he makes is completely forgetting the 'rule of law', because no longer are the laws made to bring about security to the citizens, but are of personal benefit to the king. Also, Kreon is denying humans their right, because according to the Greeks, those who died lived in an underworld.
bowiiex3 2 years ago
I think Creon is too arrogant. When Oedipus was king, Creon said that he didn't have any wish to become king. Now that he is the king, he believes that what he thinks is justified sets the whole standard of what is right and what is wrong. Just because he's the king, doesn't mean that what he says is always right.
AnneL
adnannece 2 years ago
The set also reflects Kreon's power over his subjects, embodying the law. While he sits on a big throne, all the elders sit on these tiny stools!
MartinMI6 2 years ago
8:06 A firing squad?? There's definitely a large modern influence here. This messenger is very much a sort of comic relief. His manner is very different from the atmosphere Kreon created. And the laws are apparently quite effective. The messenger himself says he was scared when he saw the body gone, knowing it was illegal, and didn't want to confront the king.
MartinMI6 2 years ago
I agree with what has been said. it seems to me like Kreon is trying to fill Oedipus's shoes and take over his role. I think he has always been jealous, and this viscous thirst for power has caused him to enforce his own rules and try to govern the state in a way that only he deems right. This is definitely un just, he is like a modern day corrupt leader. Jonathan Raines
adioboyy69 2 years ago
Again, Kreon makes his laws quite clear. As he himself, rather vehemently, states to the council. He obviously puts the state's welfare high above the individual's rights, and everyone knows it. He seems very power hungry, and it's a bit ironic, when in Oedipus Rex, he declared that he would never crave Oedipus' position, because of all the responsibilities being king entailed. But now that he is king, he seems to be enjoying it quite a lot, and is certainly very assertive of his authority.
MartinMI6 2 years ago
Kreon seems like he is a power seeker. Also, i feel like he is trying to get back at Oedipus by doing this to his son. I agree with Morgan. He is not giving people their human rights. To have a proper burial was very important and to take that right away is not fair.
rayleerusso 2 years ago
No dancing all night shaking the foundation trying to invoke Bacchus. Go to bed.
kjopowicz 2 years ago
I disagree with Creon, by proclaiming title of ruler and enforcing his power. He is making sure that people fear his laws so they dont break them. He is trying to prevent people of their human rights, which is why he is upset once he finds out that Anitgone's brother is being buried.
morganemilythibault 2 years ago
In this scene we can see how Creon's promotion to king has changed him. His whole view of justice had been altered. He genuinely believes that because he is King, what he says is law, and during this time he was right because his people carried out what ever he said. I think he would have strongly agreed with Cicero because he is using his reason to govern the city. He thinks that it is best that polynices should not be buried because it will inspire others to refrain from acting like polynices
xjohn2006 2 years ago
I don't think Cicero would have agreed with Kreon. Nobody likes an autocratic ruler who is oppressive, and Kreon certainly seems to enjoy his position a bit too much. Cicero's reason was more of an innate moral feeling. An innate feeling of what is just and right, which is in accordance with the natural Law. And because of this innate sense of justice, good laws are made. Cicero's reason is not really logic, which I think you're trying to say Kreon is acting logically.
MartinMI6 2 years ago
...of behavior by showing the punishment brought by committing this crime. Nowadays, we know that the "stoning" punishment is cruel and torturous (and it violates one of the universal rights), but back then it was probably the most effective way of publicly punishing someone. I think that the stoning of anyone who tries to cover the body is a very harsh punishment for the crime in question, but then again you have to put it in context and try to understand what Creon was trying to achieve.
Tara546 2 years ago
ta ra
xjohn2006 2 years ago
Creon believes that Polynices is getting the punishment that he deserves. Polynices already received somewhat of a punishment, he rebelled, and his attempt caused him failure and a brutal death. Polynices is dead, and now Creon's law about anyone who buries him should be stoned to death is really only punishing Polynices' only family, his sisters, who have been completely innocent throughout all of this. Also, like people have said already, I think that Creon is being extremely over reactive.
denisehbh 2 years ago
Creon seems kind of arrogant about being king, considering that in the play 'Oedipus Rex', he said that he would not want the responsibilities of being king.
I can understand where Creon is coming from -- he seems to be quite patriotic, and he wishes to keep his kingdom intact and safe. "Polynices, who returned here at the head of a foreign army to destroy his homeland, burn down this city and reduce the people to slavery." <-- it would only be natural for him to want to discourage this type...
Tara546 2 years ago
The actor playing Creon has definitely changed his delivery of the character.
kjopowicz 2 years ago
I believe that it is correct for Creon to deny this from Antigone. Nobody is above the law. Even if the people who try to bury Polynecies are stoned to death for their lack of observance for the law, it is only correct, sometimes the ends justify the means. For example, is it okay to kill one person to save a thousand peoples' lives? It may not seem just in the process, but in the end, the ends justify the means. It was wrong of the people to disobey the law. Laws are there for a reason.
TheDonLau 2 years ago
Jodie!! I love replying to your comments.
Though I despise Creon and his unnecessary determination to prove his power, I don't really agree with what you said about how Creon is technically a murderer because he created the law about being stoned to death. He creates this law because he wants to PREVENT the burial of Polynices. He is simply making the people fear his laws so that Polynices will not be buried. I don't think that he should be portrayed as a murderer.
denisehbh 2 years ago
Good insight, Gordon. Recall that Odipus made a proclamation that also carried the force of law (find the offender, exile) and he did not exclude himself. Once convinced by clear evidence, he submitted to his own sentence.
kjopowicz 2 years ago
I agree with Kunal. Why is Creon wearing a suit with a cape? Anyways, on to the actual story. Creon is very extreme here, something that's been pointed out before. He's obviously a little desperate to make people think he's a strong king, and he's trying to prove the strength of Thebes through the treatment of Polynices' body. He also seems a bit more power hungry than Oedipus. He's just been crowned, yet he seems convinced that he should be a better king than Oedipus and Laius combined.
Christine752 2 years ago
Audience? COntext? 80's Cold War (communism v free countries) and looming nuclear destruction?
kjopowicz 2 years ago
Does Creon have the right to deny Antigone of her brother's burial? In my opinion no he does not. Whether or not the man was a rebel has nothing to do with it. Now that he is dead, the family should be able to hold on to the remains and do what they can to try and say their final goodbye. The act of denying a burial is cruel and unjust, and is partly for the reason that he may not live peacefully in the afterlife. There must be some pity! It just seems very unjust to me.
DrewH714 2 years ago
The Chorus/Senators don't seem to question him at the assembly.
kjopowicz 2 years ago
By creating the law that states that anyone that buries Polynices should be stoned to death, isn't Kreon just as bad as those who would murder, because by writing the law, he would be killing, simply indirectly? Kreon might as well have been as oblivious as Oedipus because wouldn't his actions of disrespecting the dead anger his gods (in the setting of the play)?
JodieWYC 2 years ago
Remember the killing indirectly.
kjopowicz 2 years ago
I believe that the only reason that no one, other than Antigone had rebelled against Kreon becoming ruler was because he was cleverly putting harsh laws into place, indirectly placing fear into the society's hearts. Even though Oedipus had done many grossly "wrong" things, he had at least been a ruler that seemed to show genuine care for his people. Kreon seems so manipulative and greedy when he says that Thebes is "mine by right...I claim it".
JodieWYC 2 years ago
Given that Thebes is in a state of civil war, what if Creon had not claimed the throne forcefully AND legally?
kjopowicz 2 years ago
there would have been a severe power vacuum similar to in the days before WW1 which would have resulted in all out war and destruction, so i think that it was best that he took over while he could. But i think that he is abusing his power by declaring that Polynices cannot be buried, and those that break this law will be put to death
xjohn2006 2 years ago
Hurried here as slow as I could! Har, har!
kjopowicz 2 years ago
I was confused when Creon addressed the choir as his counsel. I was under the impression that in greek plays the choir was on the side, and not really a part of the actual discourse. This was one way that BBC decided to adapt the original into a more modern play.
-Bryn
bp8120367 2 years ago
Hmmm. Remember that the Choragos does interact with the main characters as does the whole chorus.
kjopowicz 2 years ago
I'm glad someone buried Polyneices. He deserved to as much as his brother.
karolynink 2 years ago
I believe that Creon's sentence is somewhat just because Polynecies did commit treason which was considered a great offense to their fatherland. Also, Creon's policy was really straightforward, how everyone is bonded together in society, if one fall they all fall. So Polynecies was wrong, as a king or ruler, these laws have to be enforced. If people didn't listen to you, then what kind of ruler are you? You have to show the people that you're powerful and you mean business. Jason Chou
MMA31 2 years ago
The case of Creon vs. Antigone is an example of individual rights or societys rights. The rights of the society are being fulfilled because Polyneices was a traitor, however the rights of him as an individual and of Antigone to be able to bury his body are being harshly discarded.
bp8120367 2 years ago
For an example in the movie Troy, Achilles kills Hector and drags him back to their tents and doesn't want to bury him properly. However, the father of Hector goes to Achilles and begs for his son's body back to bury him and so Achilles does. Even Achilles is a better man than Creon. Creon is going a bit too far with the whole "leave him to the birds so they can feast on him" and so on.
carolyn
karolynink 2 years ago
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karolynink 2 years ago
I think that there are some strange choices made in the production of this play. For one thing, all of the characters are wearing relatively modern clothing, and the senators/ choir are wearing judges uniforms as if they are holding back their opinions about Creon's actions.
I think that Creon has become an absolute ruler. Oedipus and Laius before him never had to deal with this issue, since Oedipus and Laius both chose to share their power with those around them, and split it equally.
kunals100 2 years ago
Good insight. However, what tells you these things? What details, sir?
kjopowicz 2 years ago
I think that Creon is taking away Polynices right to remain resting in peace, as well as Polynices' familial rights to decide how their family member should be placed. Thus, the rule of law is not upheld in the Greek society shown in this video because of Creon's position as king, he is placed above the law and instead of law having absolute rule, Creon has absolute rule in society.- Vivienne
Vtsan430 2 years ago
What is the purpose of the Choir people? And realy, what is the big deal about someone being buried. Its Oedipus's son so doesnt the sisters get some kind of say in the matter? I'm glad that Antigone buried him because Creon will be proved wrong about the righteousness of the laws, she has every right to. Who is he to say no and he also had said previously that he didn not care for the throne but he's taking the power of being a King way too far
annikarelliott 2 years ago
I think the choir are acting as 'society' in this. They are the voice of the common people. And Creon is so strict about this burying ordeal because he is so transfixed on teaching his people a lesson. He wants the people of Thebes to acknowledge and respect his rule and law because 'after all, he is king', and he is caught up in thinking that because he is king, he is law.
xjohn2006 2 years ago
he dosent jus want people to achknowledge him for himself, he wants to make an example aout of ectocleus to stop further war for his people
Aduro9 2 years ago
It's Polynices he doesn't want buried, not Eteokles.
goodnightwolf 2 years ago
The conflict between individual rights and rights of society, as a whole, was as pressing for the ancient Greek city-states as it is for the modern nation. Antigone is exemplary of the passionate dissenters in history and continues to be subversive and powerful play.
JamesHar7 2 years ago
I dont think the sentencing was just. Everyone should have the right to be buried properly, even a convicted killer or traitor. Also, I dont believe Polyneices was necessarily in the wrong. He was not coming to attack the city but to get back the throne he was entitled to from his brother who was refusing to give it up. His brother was also breaking laws, so why should he be the only one to get a proper burial?
-mallory
mgm1994 2 years ago
I don't think that Creon should be so angered about Polynecies who is already dead which means that Creon can't do anything about it anymore. I also think that he is over reacting over everything, i don't think that Creon's sentence is just.
cocochen10 2 years ago
After watching this part, I thought that Creon is a person who would want to hunt you down so that justice would be served. Just like how Creon mentioned that he would use death as a punishment. Also why is Creon still angered by Polynecies, I mean he is dead already so what could he do about it? In addition to this, I also think that Polynicies should deserve to have some form of burial, because it is just like disowning a family member, so it would be a heartless action in not doing so.
justxollie 2 years ago
(this is jaclynp)
I think that Creon's sentencewas not just, it would have been a good way to show citizens what you get for going against this society which definitely would create a lot of fear in them, but overall everyone (good or bad) deserves the right to their own proper burial, as everyone deserves the right to be respected alive and dead. In this case, I would rather the individual override society. Individuals make up the society, and they all deserve the same respect no matter what.
jacxphi 2 years ago
I thought that Creon's sentence was just, as Polyneices as rebelled against his own fatherland, although I believe that Creon posting guards around the body, as well as declaring death for anyone burying the body is going overboard-there are better things to do than such things, and death is too big of a punishment.
Euvin Kahng
120415 2 years ago
I also think its a waste of resources for Creon to put guards around the body of polyneices. I think he is talking it a bit seriously. I mean the man is already dead, its not like he can do any more harm.
calebiscool1 2 years ago
I understand why Creon would want to forbid anyone from burying polyneices or mourning for him, because he wanted the destruction of the city and its people. I think this is unrealistic because you can't really forbid someone to mourn over the death of a friend or family member. I also think that he should allow him to be buried away from the city by antigone because of the importance funeral ceremonies played in those days.
calebiscool1 2 years ago
Human2ers, do you think that Creon's sentence (interdiction) was just?
kjopowicz 2 years ago
FIX THE FUCCIN GAP BETWEEN THE 2 PARTS bKITCH
jaguarcichlid08 2 years ago
i like the fact that they are elderly men as was intended in the original by Sophocles chorus. They're not singing as the dioces would during a traditional greek play but the music lets us know what is intended... i also like the steps... Creon throughout onsiders himself higher than everyone else throughout the play - it is only at the end he realises , too late like Macbeth and Dr Fraustus, that they are the sole icon within the tragedy.. victims of their own demise.
EmsyPloves2laugh 2 years ago
Wow, this is the best antigone i've come across in utube. I'm prepaing Creon's speech for an audition next week - thanks!
b00i00d 2 years ago
GOOD!!!
alsemnlorie 2 years ago
The chorus was awful. They should have been in masks or at least spoken in meter.
PatheticToady 2 years ago
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pyromohanzed 2 years ago
They're the senators, not a chorus.
pyromohanzed 2 years ago
O.o they call Creon "Crayon"
SunriseGloryx 2 years ago
He invented them.
pyromohanzed 2 years ago
this is so fuckin boreing fuck lol
annchovies 2 years ago
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pyromohanzed 2 years ago
Not quite a fan of the chorus, but I think Antigone was done well.
DrummerBoyJason 2 years ago 4
this play the whole thing is just brillient. i love it i read the whole thing line for line about 10 times. antigone is such a strong woman. i really look up to her, she stuck up for hat she belived in and suffered a terrible price.
angels4acause1012 2 years ago
The Ode Annoys me
hahaha2531 2 years ago
A battyman video dis
R00TZSP 3 years ago
god!!!! This sucks but im glad i dont actualy have to read the play so thank you =)
watchingyakimaburn 3 years ago 9
If you did, it won't have the same wordings as this screenplay does.
pyromohanzed 2 years ago
nice!
mphuturem 3 years ago
Tnxx for uploading :D
ayoooodiii00 3 years ago