@mariodieter "Hate" is a loaded word, isn't it? But I don't really hate them, I hate their bad driving habits. And on the contrary I "love" the vast majority of the motorists I encounter every day who use the roads attentively and respectfully. It's those with little consideration that I have the least ability to tolerate.
As a cyclists I hate to admit it but you were in the wrong here. Cyclists have to stop at stop signs just as motor vehicles have to. Keep riding like that and you will get hit.
@harshbarj It's interesting that "as a cyclist" you see my after-the-fact slow roll of the stop sign (done to put some space between me and the vehicle involved) as somehow grounds for me being responsible for the motorist's previous carelessness in merging into me. As to your warning, in the 26 months since this video was posted I've logged more than 10,000 city bike miles without "getting hit" despite encountering scores of such drivers all of whom I'd wager you'd no doubt hold harmless.
im afraid you really do need to adjust your road attitude. you will get hurt one of these days, and whilst you'll blame it on others (due to the technicalities of the traffic laws) the real person to blame is yourself for riding like a tit.
Thanks for the concern and advice @chrisandnicky. In return I'd invite you to understand that with that irresponsible "road attitude" you've saddled me with from just this one video I've managed to log more than 20,000 miles this past five years without getting hurt -- despite hundreds of encounters with lazy motorists such as this one who you see fit to entirely excuse.
originally i thought that by passing on the right you were partially responsible for this, but i don't see any turn signals going on the car. now we all know lane-sharing is legal, but here's a question: what would you have done if the car was signalling the turn as you approached? especially with that car on the side of you...i hate it when bikers are shunted off the road like that.
@420steamboat Indeed, had the motorist done something as basic as use his vehicle's turn signal, I wouldn't have hesitated to yield so he could pull to the right in front of me. Thanks for the comment.
I expect the above comment wasn't made with reverence, but rather ridicule. Thanks at least to @efrankie90 for refraining from the use of any foul language and direct insults.
@wildbell My goodness, you're so wrong. Maybe in the heat of the moment...but then you post it and think you're right? Get a tread mill or stationary bike, then you can complain to yourself.
My goodness @firstfire603, thanks for the comment. Unlike you I will not condemn or dismiss your opposing opinion and right to express it, but I must politely disregard your snark-laden suggestion that I trade in my bike for such useless machinery. Since you've chosen -- somewhat ironically -- to publicly complain here about my public complaining, I'll hope you understand that despite your derision and double standard, I'll complain when and where I want and invite you instead to ignore me.
@wildbell Oh shit, don't worry, you are not the only one that hates motorist for this, just the other day ( In Britain) I was going straight, a junction came up, and a Ford Focus over-took me, then turned left almost hitting me, I had to break really hard just not to get hit, good thing i have decent brakes... IN FRONT OF A POLICE STATION! Motorists have no consideration whatso ever for cyclists!
@wildbell Thats the thing, the British Government try to encourage people to use bikes, yet they expect people to use the road, now, I'm not the best cyclist in the world, and when i started using the road it was terrifying, I'm used to it now, but how can they expect starter up cyclists to use the road, Holland, Now Holland has every thing right there, their cycling lanes are the best thing in the world!
@HMSDaring1 Sounds like Los Angeles and the UK have a lot of bike-friendly problems in common. HIstorically, Los Angeles was a city built to cater to the personal automobile and it's a very laborious process not only to get people out of their cars and onto bikes when they're then forced to to ride on such a dysfuntional cycling network. I dream of one day going to Holland and pedaling around. I think I'll just start bawling like a baby at what 's been accomplished there.
dude, STOP and enjoy life, it's too short! especially when you are CUTTING THE TRAFFIC WAITING AT THE STOP SIGN; And then, you blow right by them, without stopping for the intersection! Are you riding the bike because you lost your licence?
I don't know about where you are, but here passing on the right and running a stop sign are illegal, even on a bicycle... it would be really hilarious if you got a citation out of posting this. (Just to be clear, the laws against passing on the right and stopping at stop signs are to prevent this kind of stuff from happening!)
I bike, and am for sharing the roads with bikers... but I also recognize absolute arrogance and disregard for basic safety when I see it.
It's no wonder someone so superior as @billybobschmidt can recognize arrogance! As for being so well versed in the law, I'd hilariously invite him to look at the date this video was posted and expect him to know the simple facts that the citation he'sso giddily eager to issue me can't happen so far after the fact and simply by being viewed on the interNUT.
Wow, you're a real dick head! Just remember you are riding in a street on a bicycle. You're not in a car, protected by steel. I'm not sure what you were doing racing in between those cars like that, but it looked like disaster waiting to happen. I can't believe you couldn't see that coming! Try driving less offensive and a little more defensive. You might find yourself 'hating' a lot less :)
Speaking of dickheads, I get it now: The @TheRealRyanMartin's of the world look at this bit of video and not only do they know all the answers but they've snap-judged everything about me and my riding habits and my life and go on to feel entirely entitled and content to lecture at me with smileys on top. I'm super in awe of this fellow's amazing ability to incredulously wonder why I couldn't have seen a car make an unsafe maneuver into me -- that he of course would have seen a mile away.
To me it looks like the bike ran the stop sign, I would of done the same thing that the car did, I don't look in my rearview mirror to see if there's a bike back there that's going to run the stop sign.
It's interesting that @2001silverado363 excuses and accepts the driver's negligence because it mirrors his or her own after making like my rolling the stop sign further negates the driver's responsibility to know what's around him at all times. Not that it makes a difference but I continued into the intersection without stopping in order to make sure I'd put some space between myself and the encroaching vehicle.
@wildbell "It mirrors his or her own" Oh yeah, I'm negligent because I don't check my review mirror when turning right at stop sign that I was there first at. All I'm saying is bikes have to follow road rules, also. If you would have, you wouldn't have almost got crushed.
@2001silverado363 Take offense if you must, but you're the one who essentially exonerates the driver for his lack of what should be a simple and automatic defensive driving rule by admitting you'd do the exact same thing. I can thoroughly agree that we all have to abide by the rules, but releasing someone from because you perceive me as being
That last part should read: but releasing someone from responsibility because you perceive me as being irresponsible afterward is a bit of a backwards rationalization.
I know you have a reason to be mad, he wasen't looking........ But now motorists have a reason to post a vid like this "This Is Why I Hate: Road Rage Cyclests
@peg2000 Thanks peg. Those motorists of whom you write have never needed an excuse or reason to hate bicyclists before, but if you want to make me their poster child, I'm cool with that. But frankly if I were really a road rager I would've dismounted and given the motorist something to really be angry about. You might find fault in how I expressed myself, but in the big scheme it was really a pretty tame response.
@wildbell yeah it was a tame response. But just be careful on the roads, some motorists are really crappy and selfiicous. I'm just a kid and ride my mountain bike around my neiborhood, and just from that i can tell how stupid they are
I dont care what the cyclist did, the fact is the cyclist is the vunerable road user, the fact is the car nearly hit him, he did not run into the car the car nearly ran into him.
@wildbell No problem. Most CAGERS see the world through the narrow view of a motorist, and cant see things that are before their eyes.
They are the sort of people who drive 2 blocks so they can suck down a McFAT Meal. They are the same people that block off the the cycle lane if one even exists, or door cyclists and then shout from the windows that cyclists must stick to the cycle lane.
Abhish: I'll totally agree that my position contributed to the encounter, but I'll disagree that I'm equally culpable.
1.I jumped the sign as an evasive maneuver
AFTER the incident.
2. The law in California states "bikes must ride as far right as practicable." It may not have been the safest place, but it's not the wrong place to ride.
3. I don't know what states prohibit "lane sharing," but here in California and in all states that I know of the practice is legal.
Dude your yelling at the car for doing some thing stupid, while you run a stop sign, and post vid of it. One of the many things I know about people on the road is if theyve done it once theyve done it before and will do it again. So watch out for this car in the future, and remember that stop signs are for everyone. He may have frazzled you, but thats no excuse. Cars frazzle me everyday, but I remember that I'm better then they are. that keeps me from accidents
Wolf, your advice on coping with motorists is excellent and appreciated, but assuming you're a cyclist, are you telling me that you come to complete halts at EVERY stop sign you come to? That's amazing. I didn't "run" this stop. Sure I rolled through it, but in part to keep far enough beyond this motorist in case he was still oblivious of me.
I firmly believe if youre going to criticize others for what they do, then you should be better then them, or at least dont let anyone see it. Yes I do stop, its a quick stop, and my feet dont touch the ground unless there is a car stopped before me, or close. I dont trust drivers and dont feel like being a hood ornament so I watch them very carefully. Ride safe, remember there are idiots all around. I use the smith system when I drive, ride or walk. It keeps me safe.
LOL! It's OK for you to make lame assumptions as to my riding skills and judge me under such ignorant pretense, but it's not OK for me to call FAIL on a motorist's inattentive behavior. You're proof that there's always room for one more tool in the world.
Dude why are you like, not riding in the road, and right next to parked cars? You are gonna get smashed if someone backs out, even 5 inches. Learn to ride a bike..please.
CM, you make a great point and then have to ruin it with that last line. As a dedicated commuter cyclist I've logged 14,000 bike miles all over the mean streets of Los Angeles since January 2007. I may not ride a bike the way you ride a bike, but clearly I'm doing something right.
Im just saying that you need to be in the road, ata ll times, and not riding up against the rear end of parked cars. Your risking injury to yourself, and are risking an accident if you swerve out into the lane to avoid someone backing out, and having a car in the lane hitting you, causing yet another traffic hazard. Yes im all for cycling but do it properly, and you wont get hit. Ride safe.
to the cyclist: don't be an ass. i ride a bike and drive regularly. both need to abide by the rules. you guys were BOTH at fault. he didn't look back to see you, but i'm pretty sure a STOP SIGN applies to bikes too. So, YOU need to abide by street laws because it's people like you AND the driver who make sharing the streets so hard.
Arthentic, I can appreciate your wise and experienced counsel... all except for the "don't be an ass" part, which was entirely unnecessary and ass like. Your fine points are otherwise marred by such silly condescension.
I agree with him. No need to start shouting insults. What just happened to you happens to me about 9000 times a day. Just look, shake your head, change the song on your ipod, and continue. No need to provoke even further hostilities between us and motorists.
If getting cut off really grinds your gears that much stay out of orlando.
and to think if all this happend years ago it wouldn't have been recorded for people to watch over and over driving themselves crazy with anger and all sorts of emotions ! technology makin us crazy by the second .
Thanks for the idiotic comment, Alex -- the all caps are an awesome touch. And for your info, that "path" on the right (not "left," you directionally challenged moron) is something we call a "sidewalk" here in the United States and it can actually be more dangerous -- as well as illegal -- to ride on it instead of the streets.
Haha Looser and actually there is a path on the left and the right and heyy feel free to endangerour yourself by not abiding by the road laws i couldnt really care if you get run over
Wow, being called a "looser" by such a toolbag is a real honor.
As to there being a sidewalk on the other side of the street, how veeeery perceptive of you. But it's way more than a couple meters away, so in addition to your directional issues you might want to revisit your measurement system and brush up on actual lengths.
No no you got confused i simply wanted you to cross the road and get KILLED all in a days work of America who even manages to blow a few holes in their own country YEEEE HAAAAAA!
it's your responsibility to look back and check your mirrors so you don't kill a bicyclist. there's no arguing about space on the road. if somone is paralyzed or killed, there's no one right. just watch out for cyclists, pedestrians, and other cars and go home safe. don't take a life just because you're pissed. that's the road rage and everyone has to watch out for that, cyclists too!
You shouldnt have squeezed into the gap, he was there first and it was obvious he was going to turn. Either wait behind, or go one the other side.
I am a cyclist too regularly encountering driver induced danger but this stuff is easily avoiding by always taking primary (middle of the road like a car) at junctions of any sort.
Well, I wouldn't say it was entirely "obvious" he was going to turn. But otherwise I agree with you that I could have avoided the encounter -- just as he could have with an effortless turn of the head or use of his signal.
You should always expect drivers not to see you, obviously they couldve avoided this situation by looking/signalling. When on car dominated roads you have to always ride cautiously and defensively.
Overtaking should always be done to the left of the lane (usa) or right of the lane (UK)
I appreciate your advice, but you're preaching to the choir, reverend. :) Please understand you're viewing a few hundred feet of the almost 15,000 miles that I've successfully biked cautiously and defensively across many of theses mean streets of car-dominated Los Angeles these past three years.
New york state bicycle laws say cyclists should stay on the right side of the road if there is a not bike path and may only deviate left if theres obstacles in the way. It was a driver like this that caused me to chip my two front teeth and fracture my jaw. The guy didn't signal and cut me off to make a turn, sent me flying into the pavement
Yeah, ddallass, don't take issue with the fact that the motorist can't look over his shoulder to see that the right is clear, and never mind that passing on the right is an entirely acceptable practice. Instead just be a FAILdick and make me the one at fault for this.
Passing on the right is an abnormal maneuver and it is contrary to the normal rules of the road. The motorist was in error for not merging into the lane next to him before executing his right turn. (You'd bitch about that as well) Making a turn from a middle lane of the road is also contrary to the normal rules of the road.
Both of these errors demonstrate two of the reasons that bike lanes encourage dangerous behavior by introducing traffic patterns that are contrary to the rules of the road.
Well at least your follow-up is far more thoughtful. Pity you couldn't have been more reasonable first instead of so accusatory.
I will agree that passing a vehicle on the right is technically prohibited. If it'll make you feel better I'll even accept my share of the contributory negligence for this near-miss. But whether you blame lax law enforcement or bike lanes, any abnormality you assign to the practice is negated because it is considered acceptable. Lazy driving should never be excused.
Didn't look like a close call at all. Guess you had to be there.
sevoak 3 months ago
it seems u hate very much on this planet...:P
mariodieter 8 months ago
@mariodieter "Hate" is a loaded word, isn't it? But I don't really hate them, I hate their bad driving habits. And on the contrary I "love" the vast majority of the motorists I encounter every day who use the roads attentively and respectfully. It's those with little consideration that I have the least ability to tolerate.
wildbell 8 months ago
As a cyclists I hate to admit it but you were in the wrong here. Cyclists have to stop at stop signs just as motor vehicles have to. Keep riding like that and you will get hit.
harshbarj 1 year ago
@harshbarj It's interesting that "as a cyclist" you see my after-the-fact slow roll of the stop sign (done to put some space between me and the vehicle involved) as somehow grounds for me being responsible for the motorist's previous carelessness in merging into me. As to your warning, in the 26 months since this video was posted I've logged more than 10,000 city bike miles without "getting hit" despite encountering scores of such drivers all of whom I'd wager you'd no doubt hold harmless.
wildbell 1 year ago
im afraid you really do need to adjust your road attitude. you will get hurt one of these days, and whilst you'll blame it on others (due to the technicalities of the traffic laws) the real person to blame is yourself for riding like a tit.
chrisandnicky 1 year ago
Thanks for the concern and advice @chrisandnicky. In return I'd invite you to understand that with that irresponsible "road attitude" you've saddled me with from just this one video I've managed to log more than 20,000 miles this past five years without getting hurt -- despite hundreds of encounters with lazy motorists such as this one who you see fit to entirely excuse.
wildbell 1 year ago
originally i thought that by passing on the right you were partially responsible for this, but i don't see any turn signals going on the car. now we all know lane-sharing is legal, but here's a question: what would you have done if the car was signalling the turn as you approached? especially with that car on the side of you...i hate it when bikers are shunted off the road like that.
420steamboat 1 year ago
@420steamboat Indeed, had the motorist done something as basic as use his vehicle's turn signal, I wouldn't have hesitated to yield so he could pull to the right in front of me. Thanks for the comment.
wildbell 1 year ago
wow what a guy
efrankie90 1 year ago
I expect the above comment wasn't made with reverence, but rather ridicule. Thanks at least to @efrankie90 for refraining from the use of any foul language and direct insults.
wildbell 1 year ago
@wildbell My goodness, you're so wrong. Maybe in the heat of the moment...but then you post it and think you're right? Get a tread mill or stationary bike, then you can complain to yourself.
firstfire603 1 year ago
My goodness @firstfire603, thanks for the comment. Unlike you I will not condemn or dismiss your opposing opinion and right to express it, but I must politely disregard your snark-laden suggestion that I trade in my bike for such useless machinery. Since you've chosen -- somewhat ironically -- to publicly complain here about my public complaining, I'll hope you understand that despite your derision and double standard, I'll complain when and where I want and invite you instead to ignore me.
wildbell 1 year ago
@wildbell Oh shit, don't worry, you are not the only one that hates motorist for this, just the other day ( In Britain) I was going straight, a junction came up, and a Ford Focus over-took me, then turned left almost hitting me, I had to break really hard just not to get hit, good thing i have decent brakes... IN FRONT OF A POLICE STATION! Motorists have no consideration whatso ever for cyclists!
HMSDaring1 1 year ago
Thanks @HMSDaring1. Hope your rides are safe and your motorists attentive!
wildbell 1 year ago
@wildbell Thats the thing, the British Government try to encourage people to use bikes, yet they expect people to use the road, now, I'm not the best cyclist in the world, and when i started using the road it was terrifying, I'm used to it now, but how can they expect starter up cyclists to use the road, Holland, Now Holland has every thing right there, their cycling lanes are the best thing in the world!
HMSDaring1 1 year ago
@HMSDaring1 Sounds like Los Angeles and the UK have a lot of bike-friendly problems in common. HIstorically, Los Angeles was a city built to cater to the personal automobile and it's a very laborious process not only to get people out of their cars and onto bikes when they're then forced to to ride on such a dysfuntional cycling network. I dream of one day going to Holland and pedaling around. I think I'll just start bawling like a baby at what 's been accomplished there.
wildbell 1 year ago
I counted two mistakes made by the cyclist. And being a dickhead to a fellow person isn't one of them.
2stagedeep 1 year ago
Thanks to @2stagedeep for such a meticulous count but for not including his or her mistaken perception of me being a dickhead as a mistake.
wildbell 1 year ago
dude, STOP and enjoy life, it's too short! especially when you are CUTTING THE TRAFFIC WAITING AT THE STOP SIGN; And then, you blow right by them, without stopping for the intersection! Are you riding the bike because you lost your licence?
TheMarooka 1 year ago
LOL @TheMarooka: I haven't heard that "riding your bike because you lost your license?" lameness in 20 years! Thanks for the blast from the past.
wildbell 1 year ago
I don't know about where you are, but here passing on the right and running a stop sign are illegal, even on a bicycle... it would be really hilarious if you got a citation out of posting this. (Just to be clear, the laws against passing on the right and stopping at stop signs are to prevent this kind of stuff from happening!)
I bike, and am for sharing the roads with bikers... but I also recognize absolute arrogance and disregard for basic safety when I see it.
billybobschmidt 1 year ago
It's no wonder someone so superior as @billybobschmidt can recognize arrogance! As for being so well versed in the law, I'd hilariously invite him to look at the date this video was posted and expect him to know the simple facts that the citation he'sso giddily eager to issue me can't happen so far after the fact and simply by being viewed on the interNUT.
wildbell 1 year ago
Wow, you're a real dick head! Just remember you are riding in a street on a bicycle. You're not in a car, protected by steel. I'm not sure what you were doing racing in between those cars like that, but it looked like disaster waiting to happen. I can't believe you couldn't see that coming! Try driving less offensive and a little more defensive. You might find yourself 'hating' a lot less :)
TheRealRyanMartin 1 year ago
Speaking of dickheads, I get it now: The @TheRealRyanMartin's of the world look at this bit of video and not only do they know all the answers but they've snap-judged everything about me and my riding habits and my life and go on to feel entirely entitled and content to lecture at me with smileys on top. I'm super in awe of this fellow's amazing ability to incredulously wonder why I couldn't have seen a car make an unsafe maneuver into me -- that he of course would have seen a mile away.
wildbell 1 year ago
lol, guy sounds like Bert from sesame street
aha45 1 year ago
@aha45 that's an improvement. I've always been told I sound like Kermit
wildbell 1 year ago
To me it looks like the bike ran the stop sign, I would of done the same thing that the car did, I don't look in my rearview mirror to see if there's a bike back there that's going to run the stop sign.
2001silverado363 1 year ago
It's interesting that @2001silverado363 excuses and accepts the driver's negligence because it mirrors his or her own after making like my rolling the stop sign further negates the driver's responsibility to know what's around him at all times. Not that it makes a difference but I continued into the intersection without stopping in order to make sure I'd put some space between myself and the encroaching vehicle.
wildbell 1 year ago
@wildbell "It mirrors his or her own" Oh yeah, I'm negligent because I don't check my review mirror when turning right at stop sign that I was there first at. All I'm saying is bikes have to follow road rules, also. If you would have, you wouldn't have almost got crushed.
2001silverado363 1 year ago
@2001silverado363 Take offense if you must, but you're the one who essentially exonerates the driver for his lack of what should be a simple and automatic defensive driving rule by admitting you'd do the exact same thing. I can thoroughly agree that we all have to abide by the rules, but releasing someone from because you perceive me as being
wildbell 1 year ago
That last part should read: but releasing someone from responsibility because you perceive me as being irresponsible afterward is a bit of a backwards rationalization.
wildbell 1 year ago
I know you have a reason to be mad, he wasen't looking........ But now motorists have a reason to post a vid like this "This Is Why I Hate: Road Rage Cyclests
peg2000 1 year ago
@peg2000 Thanks peg. Those motorists of whom you write have never needed an excuse or reason to hate bicyclists before, but if you want to make me their poster child, I'm cool with that. But frankly if I were really a road rager I would've dismounted and given the motorist something to really be angry about. You might find fault in how I expressed myself, but in the big scheme it was really a pretty tame response.
wildbell 1 year ago
@wildbell yeah it was a tame response. But just be careful on the roads, some motorists are really crappy and selfiicous. I'm just a kid and ride my mountain bike around my neiborhood, and just from that i can tell how stupid they are
peg2000 1 year ago
@peg2000 You're wise beyond your years young peg! I average 6,000 miles a year biking and motorists never fail to surprise me. Thanks for commenting.
wildbell 1 year ago
I dont care what the cyclist did, the fact is the cyclist is the vunerable road user, the fact is the car nearly hit him, he did not run into the car the car nearly ran into him.
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
@KrunchyJD You rock, Krunchy. Thanks for seeing and understanding what so many other failed to.
wildbell 1 year ago
@wildbell No problem. Most CAGERS see the world through the narrow view of a motorist, and cant see things that are before their eyes.
They are the sort of people who drive 2 blocks so they can suck down a McFAT Meal. They are the same people that block off the the cycle lane if one even exists, or door cyclists and then shout from the windows that cyclists must stick to the cycle lane.
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
Sippy, did you run out of your meds -- AGAIN! This makes three troll comments to three of my vids. Go outside and play on the freeway or something.
wildbell 2 years ago
the other dude my have made a mistake but you also
1. Jumped the stop sign
2. were overtaking from the wrong side
3. Depending upon which state you were in, lane sharing is another wrong thing
I would count you equally responsible.
abhish1984 2 years ago
Abhish: I'll totally agree that my position contributed to the encounter, but I'll disagree that I'm equally culpable.
1.I jumped the sign as an evasive maneuver
AFTER the incident.
2. The law in California states "bikes must ride as far right as practicable." It may not have been the safest place, but it's not the wrong place to ride.
3. I don't know what states prohibit "lane sharing," but here in California and in all states that I know of the practice is legal.
wildbell 2 years ago
Dude your yelling at the car for doing some thing stupid, while you run a stop sign, and post vid of it. One of the many things I know about people on the road is if theyve done it once theyve done it before and will do it again. So watch out for this car in the future, and remember that stop signs are for everyone. He may have frazzled you, but thats no excuse. Cars frazzle me everyday, but I remember that I'm better then they are. that keeps me from accidents
wolf9walker 2 years ago 7
Wolf, your advice on coping with motorists is excellent and appreciated, but assuming you're a cyclist, are you telling me that you come to complete halts at EVERY stop sign you come to? That's amazing. I didn't "run" this stop. Sure I rolled through it, but in part to keep far enough beyond this motorist in case he was still oblivious of me.
wildbell 2 years ago
I firmly believe if youre going to criticize others for what they do, then you should be better then them, or at least dont let anyone see it. Yes I do stop, its a quick stop, and my feet dont touch the ground unless there is a car stopped before me, or close. I dont trust drivers and dont feel like being a hood ornament so I watch them very carefully. Ride safe, remember there are idiots all around. I use the smith system when I drive, ride or walk. It keeps me safe.
wolf9walker 2 years ago
u are way too wrong dude. learn to ride a bike properly, then come back again to judge others..
webassasin 2 years ago 7
LOL! It's OK for you to make lame assumptions as to my riding skills and judge me under such ignorant pretense, but it's not OK for me to call FAIL on a motorist's inattentive behavior. You're proof that there's always room for one more tool in the world.
wildbell 2 years ago
Dude why are you like, not riding in the road, and right next to parked cars? You are gonna get smashed if someone backs out, even 5 inches. Learn to ride a bike..please.
CycleMan2200 2 years ago
CM, you make a great point and then have to ruin it with that last line. As a dedicated commuter cyclist I've logged 14,000 bike miles all over the mean streets of Los Angeles since January 2007. I may not ride a bike the way you ride a bike, but clearly I'm doing something right.
wildbell 2 years ago
Im just saying that you need to be in the road, ata ll times, and not riding up against the rear end of parked cars. Your risking injury to yourself, and are risking an accident if you swerve out into the lane to avoid someone backing out, and having a car in the lane hitting you, causing yet another traffic hazard. Yes im all for cycling but do it properly, and you wont get hit. Ride safe.
CycleMan2200 2 years ago 3
lol stop signs don't apply to bicyclists
skeletoria 2 years ago
I'll take your sarcasm over the previous two commenters lame hate any day.
wildbell 2 years ago
The person riding the bike in the video is a fucking idiot and needed to get crushed to improve the average road-user intelligence.
NeedsMorePants 2 years ago 3
Thanks for the hate Pants. Blocked.
wildbell 2 years ago
@NeedsMorePants UM, didnt the car swerve into him, and somehow he is in the wrong.. That makes sense, NOT!
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
So let me get this straight. You blow through a stop sign complaining about almost being hit by a car that's actually following the rules?
I wish you got hit.
Langiroth 2 years ago
Thanks for the hate Lang. Blocked.
wildbell 2 years ago
to the cyclist: don't be an ass. i ride a bike and drive regularly. both need to abide by the rules. you guys were BOTH at fault. he didn't look back to see you, but i'm pretty sure a STOP SIGN applies to bikes too. So, YOU need to abide by street laws because it's people like you AND the driver who make sharing the streets so hard.
arthentic 2 years ago
Arthentic, I can appreciate your wise and experienced counsel... all except for the "don't be an ass" part, which was entirely unnecessary and ass like. Your fine points are otherwise marred by such silly condescension.
wildbell 2 years ago
I agree with him. No need to start shouting insults. What just happened to you happens to me about 9000 times a day. Just look, shake your head, change the song on your ipod, and continue. No need to provoke even further hostilities between us and motorists.
If getting cut off really grinds your gears that much stay out of orlando.
Kirbymcbadass 2 years ago
Thanks Kirby. Your unshakable pacifistic zen-like qualities in the wake of inattentive motorists is truly admirable.
And I've been to Orlando. Sorry, but generally speaking it's a cyclists' paradise compared to Los Angeles.
wildbell 2 years ago
and to think if all this happend years ago it wouldn't have been recorded for people to watch over and over driving themselves crazy with anger and all sorts of emotions ! technology makin us crazy by the second .
plutoplatters 2 years ago
How right you are, pluto!
wildbell 2 years ago
bows..tips hat... (no shit)
plutoplatters 2 years ago
Ahhhh, now it's completely clear to me: you're just a total drooler.
wildbell 2 years ago
THEN GET OFF THE FUCKING ROAD DICK HEAD!
heyy ohh look there's a path 2 meters to your left AND NO ONES ON IT!!!!
AlexCameronMulcahy 2 years ago
Thanks for the idiotic comment, Alex -- the all caps are an awesome touch. And for your info, that "path" on the right (not "left," you directionally challenged moron) is something we call a "sidewalk" here in the United States and it can actually be more dangerous -- as well as illegal -- to ride on it instead of the streets.
wildbell 2 years ago
Haha Looser and actually there is a path on the left and the right and heyy feel free to endangerour yourself by not abiding by the road laws i couldnt really care if you get run over
AlexCameronMulcahy 2 years ago
Wow, being called a "looser" by such a toolbag is a real honor.
As to there being a sidewalk on the other side of the street, how veeeery perceptive of you. But it's way more than a couple meters away, so in addition to your directional issues you might want to revisit your measurement system and brush up on actual lengths.
wildbell 2 years ago
No no you got confused i simply wanted you to cross the road and get KILLED all in a days work of America who even manages to blow a few holes in their own country YEEEE HAAAAAA!
AlexCameronMulcahy 2 years ago
it's your responsibility to look back and check your mirrors so you don't kill a bicyclist. there's no arguing about space on the road. if somone is paralyzed or killed, there's no one right. just watch out for cyclists, pedestrians, and other cars and go home safe. don't take a life just because you're pissed. that's the road rage and everyone has to watch out for that, cyclists too!
sk8bow 2 years ago
You shouldnt have squeezed into the gap, he was there first and it was obvious he was going to turn. Either wait behind, or go one the other side.
I am a cyclist too regularly encountering driver induced danger but this stuff is easily avoiding by always taking primary (middle of the road like a car) at junctions of any sort.
thesku11s 2 years ago
Well, I wouldn't say it was entirely "obvious" he was going to turn. But otherwise I agree with you that I could have avoided the encounter -- just as he could have with an effortless turn of the head or use of his signal.
wildbell 2 years ago
You should always expect drivers not to see you, obviously they couldve avoided this situation by looking/signalling. When on car dominated roads you have to always ride cautiously and defensively.
Overtaking should always be done to the left of the lane (usa) or right of the lane (UK)
thesku11s 2 years ago
I appreciate your advice, but you're preaching to the choir, reverend. :) Please understand you're viewing a few hundred feet of the almost 15,000 miles that I've successfully biked cautiously and defensively across many of theses mean streets of car-dominated Los Angeles these past three years.
wildbell 2 years ago
"Do you suffer memory loss"? lmao! Funny. But some drivers ARE indeed that stupid, as this video reveals.
drexelur1 2 years ago
kermit the frog
Bangladesh92 3 years ago
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theoneandonlygames 2 years ago
Lol, he actually does sound uncannily like kermit the frog!
theoneandonlygames 2 years ago
New york state bicycle laws say cyclists should stay on the right side of the road if there is a not bike path and may only deviate left if theres obstacles in the way. It was a driver like this that caused me to chip my two front teeth and fracture my jaw. The guy didn't signal and cut me off to make a turn, sent me flying into the pavement
HKBaller27 3 years ago
What the hell are you doing passing on the right?
ddallass 3 years ago
Yeah, ddallass, don't take issue with the fact that the motorist can't look over his shoulder to see that the right is clear, and never mind that passing on the right is an entirely acceptable practice. Instead just be a FAILdick and make me the one at fault for this.
wildbell 3 years ago
Passing on the right is an abnormal maneuver and it is contrary to the normal rules of the road. The motorist was in error for not merging into the lane next to him before executing his right turn. (You'd bitch about that as well) Making a turn from a middle lane of the road is also contrary to the normal rules of the road.
Both of these errors demonstrate two of the reasons that bike lanes encourage dangerous behavior by introducing traffic patterns that are contrary to the rules of the road.
ddallass 3 years ago
Well at least your follow-up is far more thoughtful. Pity you couldn't have been more reasonable first instead of so accusatory.
I will agree that passing a vehicle on the right is technically prohibited. If it'll make you feel better I'll even accept my share of the contributory negligence for this near-miss. But whether you blame lax law enforcement or bike lanes, any abnormality you assign to the practice is negated because it is considered acceptable. Lazy driving should never be excused.
wildbell 3 years ago