#70 - Question/Answer: USB, FireWire & eSATA Theoretical Speeds

[wingbliss]

eSATAp (eSATA/USB) is found in 40% of the notebooks.

2ndly. Implementing eSATAp on a desktop/Mac pro simply requires a USD12 Delock Bracket. ZERO driver. No need AHCI BIOS tweak. eSATAp is hotplug too (with Windows 7 or Hotswap! software) - Fusioncat eSATAp Support Group.

[PikolUploader]

Thanks rodney, i'll buy one with the USB port. I wish I could connect it to the router and make a server.

[wingbliss]

Hi Bro! good work! BTW, use the Delock eSATAp cable. it is USB compatible & can even power up a 3.5" HDD/SSD or a 5.25" DVD-RW.

eSATAp is still now faster than USB 3. Why eSATAp? Zero driver, no need BIOS AHCI or OS reg tweak. Simply plug & play with a delock bracket.

[jude999]

Can anyone translate this into English?

[appelelle]

wouldnt you be interrested in discussing the merging of these three standards? for instance: give it two or three years, and everything will be usb3, instead of still upgrading three separate standards.

[TheHikeman]

thank's



[EHealthnFitness]

can someone Email me a computer please...thank you

[aznlilhero]

@1337sweden yeah i thought it was too powerful and unnecessary back then. but now i know.

[suna24]

I think no USB 2.0 or ATA is faster then your brain transmit thru your mouth. Very fassssttt. LOL

[blablabling2]

Can you speak a little quicker please...(that`s sarcasm btw)

[Shizzless]

come on... you couldn't follow? :s

[blablabling2]

Is this idiot in a rush or something? Think about this , the people that get on TV for a living speak slow so people can understand what they are saying . IF they spoke fast this they would not last two minutes ,so why would this guy talk so fast on camera which is not a good thing...The only thing I can think why is, he may not know what he is talking about and covers it up with 300 words a second..OR this maybe it ..He is very nervous in front of a camera

[chaosquall1]

look the facts up they are all right

[Casper14242]

Rodney, you need to do your viewers justice and give REAL WORLD examples rather than quoting specs.

Find me a USB2 Drive that does 60MB/s (480Mbps) when copying data ONE WAY like most users do.

The fact of the matter is that when your copying files to or from a USB drive, the fastest transfer rate your going to get is about 31MB/s with 35MB/s peak transfer. Thats a huge bottleneck for SATA drives.

FireWire800 or eSATA would be much better choices for fast use of your external drives.

[TheGnomeLocker]

I so cant wait for USB 3.0 to come out, will blow all firewire types out of the water!

[syhr0]

aye slow lol ur like a robot on speed haha

[rcsquare24]

Slow down man

[zykkeli]

Is it possible to plug eSata hard drive temporarily to "normal" Sata(II) port?

[joecobra1234]

too much caffine? or not enough sex or both?

[eladbari]

Firewire is faster than USB2....

despite the "on the paper" figures of speed..

[Masterz13]

Yes, but most PCs dont have a firewire port. USB is way more practical.

[eladbari]

yes,dude...but whoever wants to edit videos [which is lately alot of us], just cannot use a USB2, in order to sample video to his PC. only firewire :]

which was invented by Apple, btw :]

[hallal55]

can i use firewire to USB will that slow it down or no?

[eladbari]

lol..is there sucha thing? i dont think so..

different technologies...

[DingeZZ]

it always is using the speed of the slowest connection in the link, so if you use a faster firewire to slower usb is uses the usb speed.

[GamerGnome]

Dear 3DGAMEMAN,

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I am starting up a video review channel, similar to yours reviewing hardware for computers. but the problem is i do not know how to contact the right people to do a review, how to set up the review. and many other things.

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[guyxtc]

they should just keep it simmple and just come out with usb 3.0, totaly common universal port, and at 600MB/s that s more than enough, 2 drives in raid 0 gives you 150-300 MB/s at the most

[bongwang]

lol come again?

[LokiV]

knows his stuff does rod :)

[ThatFlipKidxD]

Ahhhh! Brain cramps!

[happytodd]

WOO USB 3.0 ftw. Cant wait to get it :) Our usb's and sdhc's cards are getting regular updates lately :)

[5irRatchet]

too bad we won't be seeing usb 3.0 for more than a year, but we could just hold on until its release.=D

[mauleriscool]

English next time? lol

[30GB]

almost everything cells phones, mp3 players, and other uses usb

[audigex]

USB 3 will be fast, but we'll be back in the days of 1.1 and 2.0 - we'll spend months trying to plug 3.0 drives into 1.0 ports and wondering why it's slow

[meownoob]

I have ALWAYS been wondering about this!! Thanks, 3Dgameman!

[TheKoreanX]

holy shit USB 3??? YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ChopperX]

eSATA is great but yes USB is more of the standard. I love both. I have an eSATA port on my case on the top. hehe

[shaolindreams]

when USB 3 (600MB/s) coming? :)

[sergi5122]

hope you realize that your usb 2.0 devices will still work at 12 MB/s when connected to usb 3.0

[shaolindreams]

i didnt :O thanks for the heads up :O

[CsendesMark]

USB 0WNZ! :)

[rjtownsend]

Damn, I can't wait for USB-3.

[banido]

I use firewire for my video camera, I tried using USB 2.0 but it's way slower.

[Laoch111]

Very informative, thank you.

[JackaFord]

This is slightly off topic, but do you know whether IDE to SATA conversions boards improve hard drive data rates?

[sergi5122]

no they dont.

[aznlilhero]

who uses eSATA? lol

[3DGAMEMAN]

Who uses eSATA? I do. I've got a few Antec MX-1 3.5" Hard Drive Enclosures on a couple computers. I even have one on my Rogers HD TV cable box.

[aznlilhero]

i know you do! cause your pro! lol you know A LOT about computers. what's ur profession?

[Vadigor]

"A. eSATA is the fastest, but USB is the most practical."

I've said it before and I'll say it again: No one likes FireWire! =p

So far the gossip concerning USB3 is certainly interesting and those speeds would revolutionize the industry, I wonder just how expensive it'll be to upgrady to the new standard: motherboards, peripherals, possible even a new case for good measure.

PS - To all Firewire enthusiasts, yes I was joking.

[JuanKuzov]

If you have a mac u like Firewire and its throughput whips usb

[Vadigor]

inb4obviousreply? ^^

[club5ghz]

does this mean that with usb3 you can transfer a 7gb movie via usb in 2 seconds ?

[Jajabonx]

4.8 Gbits isn't GB so USB 3.0 is 600Mb/s

[StJimmyPyro]

Hmmm... I wonder when USB 3 is going to come out

[Heartagramerz]

Simple question

When it is ready duh xD!

[HgCst0]

usb 3.0 cool gota get that i use usb a lot

[torjusb]

What is the best energy drink for lan party's?

red bull, burn og energy?

[ninjahua]

lol he did tha Q/A watch all his Q/A videos and u will find out

[computerNOOB4ever]

energy drinks are bad. dont drink them. get some sleep

[DeadlyDevil666]

i concur, i stopped drinking that shit once i read what it does to your body.. now i drink Snapple water!!!@ =D

[651bobby]

coffee

[Cotton926]

smoke some crack or speed

[3DGAMEMAN]

Hey, I answered the energy drinks question in #60 - Question/Answer: Energy Drinks :)

[brokeandbloging]

@3DGAMEMAN jolt cola in a glass bottle

[brokeandbloging]

@3DGAMEMAN its jolt colla in a glass bottle glass is key it is stonger than plastick but do to sue happy world we live in the glass days or gone i miss thim

[evildwarf]

Bawls is the preferred beverage among gamers and at LAN parties. However, my drink of choice would be Monster Khaos or M-80 (especially the jumbo format).

[D0M1N8R1x]

Forgot to mention USB speeds are theoretical top speeds and CPU intensive while FireWire is not CPU Intensive and it really runs at those rated speeds all the time. Hope FireWire replace USB as a standard. FireWire 400 is soo much faster then USB 2.0 480 on all my systems. I suspect USB 3 will be the same story. Some great speeds specs that you will never see it hit.

[urveen]

Similar to every drive though, the limiting speed is generally not the interface, but the drive itself.

[operationturkey]

Firewire really isn't that great. USB 2.0 is not much slower but is far more convinient. Also e-SATA is faster than firewire.

[651bobby]

firewire is used allot in creative industry, IE many GOOD Audio intefaces use firewire and many Digital Camera/camcorders use firewire. i personally owuld get a USB2.0 exclusive external HDD but wqould go with Firewire, as it give realist speed that can written to by real time aplications like those used to record audio.

[Rowdyeh]

I've got all three types on this latest rig of mine Rodney, So I'm happy! (first?) Lol!

[SecondEasyQuest]

Can't wait for thw new USB 3.0 and other stuff