Marshall Class 5 for low volume practice

[xxxPATRI0Txxx]

You're just awesome man !!!

[gibsonsg995]

i fucking love this guy!

[dylancollver]

does this work for like zeppelin? and also i have heard that you have to keep the bass low or it sounds bad? is this true?

[realdocloco]

@dylancollver : works fine for zeppelin; about the bass: it's like with the JTM45: you have to balance the bass with the volume and the mid and treble controls

[realdocloco]

@ChineseR0ck : not home made at all, it's a Loic Le Pape loiclepapesteelguitars

[realdocloco]

@ChineseR0ck : around the same price as a Gibson DC junior

[ChineseR0ck]

@realdocloco Ok, cool :)

[senna699]

heyy ! can i put a line 6 spider3 15w into the headphone output to turn down the volume ? thanks broo nice video

[bignickm99]

For you headphone out trick does it matter what Ohm rating the cab your using is?

[realdocloco]

@bignickm99 : no

[willwiffen]

As a guitar player i prefer the cleaner sound of a valve amp, and when driven hard the amp gives out a lot of distortion, i was wondering if having a cabinet and increasing the volume would output a cleaner sound?

[benwilshire]

Hello mate

Just got one of these amps after seein so many awesome videos of them here on youtube. Ive used it quite a bit and it is loud as hell. Ive looked into this headphone trick but wonder if theres any chance damaging the amp doing it?

Thanks mate:)

Benni

[realdocloco]

@benwilshire - no, or I wouldn't recommend it

[benwilshire]

@realdocloco

Awesome thanks mate! i Just tried this with my 1960 cab. Worked really well!!!

Cheers mate

All the best

Ben

[TheJimExperience]

Can I put computer speakers into the headphone output? Or would that ruin the amp or the pc speakers? Thanks, and nice demo!

[realdocloco]

@TheJimExperience : it would sound shitty - you have to use guitar speakers

[2smokesnifer]

could i run the headphone out into another amp?

[realdocloco]

@2smokesnifer : no, I wouldn't do that

[Sauerapple]

So using the headphone output to drive a external cab makes this amp usable? I dig the tone people are getting out of these simple amps, but was afraid of another class A amp. I had a Epiphone Valve Jr. and it was almost useless, you had to be in another room to use the thing it was so damn loud!

[metart93]

is there any way to play this amp clean at load volumes?

[MeanGreenMovies]

@metart93 the only way to get louder cleans is to change the speaker

[mnldz]

This amp is amazing, but sounds too loud for bedrooms. Could we crack the valves at a "bedroom level volume" by using a boost o preamp pedal???.thx!

[psychoschna]

@mnldz i think so. a booster inhances your guitar signal about 15-20dB, so theoretically the amp should break at lower volumes.

[TinyJimbo001]

The Marshall Class 5 headphone output is stereo, does this caused problem with the cabinet ?

[realdocloco]

@TinyJimbo001 : no, just remember to half insert the jack

[SumThenfancy]

i am thinking about getting this amp, and i was wondering if it would sound good for lead at a low volume with a distortion petal

[pifou61]

what kind of cable do you use? a speaker cable or regular instrument cable? I have a Diezel 4X12 cab? is that going to work?

[realdocloco]

@pifou61 : speaker cable - yes it should work with your 4x12

[fiddevogel]

cool song, cool voice,cool amp

[adam10603]

is this the so-called "bedroom trick" ?

[martiong]

is there any way to make the class 5 sound crunchy or even lead at low volume (without any additional speakers or guitar accessories?)

[realdocloco]

@martiong :no I'm afraid

[alapunk13]

will this technique do any damage?

[realdocloco]

@alapunk13 : no

[solerso68]

what type of speaker cab are you using with the headphone out?? great idea BTW

[realdocloco]

@solerso68 : here, it's the Marshall 2061CX (2xG12H30). BTW the idea isn't mine.

[diknoi64]

do you have the tablature of this song I love <3

[Antony2191]

I LOVE MINE!!!!!

[realdocloco]

@Antony2191 : now I have two (this black and a red one) - no need to say I still love it so

[grooveinthestate]

hello! J'espère obtenir quelques uns de vos conseils si possible. Il me faut un baffle mais voilà le problème! Je souhaite jouer en salon, chambre, mais quelque fois en concert ou répète ! donc deux choix se présentent, le 2061CX, parfait pour chambre MAIS impossible d'y brancher le Class 5 dessus sauf avec la prise casque mais je voudrai garder tout le son ... donc en 16 ohms il ne reste que le 4x12 ... mais cela risque d'être trop pour chambre.

[realdocloco]

@grooveinthestate : il y'a aussi la solution d'acheter un adaptateur d'impédance - j'utilise le Z-matcher de chez WeberVST, et ça me permet d'utiliser n'importe quel ampli sur n'importe quel baffle.

[punkeratheart]

Be careful driving a speaker cab with the headphone out. It may require a 32 or even 64Ohm load. I can't believe it even makes a sound, but that is a sure sign that the output in not loaded as it is meant to be, and that can heat the output tranny to the point of roasted chicken. It could be your amp!

[realdocloco]

@punkeratheart : I'm aware of that. Here, when the headphone output is selected, the output tranny is protected by a load, so no need to worry.

[punkeratheart]

@realdocloco Right, but the headphone driver is literally a different amp. I am not from Marshall, so I don't know exactly how it was done, but most headphones present a load of 32 or 64 ohms, so they make headphone outputs to operate with those impedances. I did a little reading and found that the headphone driver IS in fact a separate circuit, so the only thing that might be in danger is the headphone amp itself, but I bet it voids the warranty, and you are on YT doing it, so....

[LOCUSLARSEN]

@punkeratheart

Chances are the headphone out is like 99% of all other amps....right after the preamp. ie, is skips the power section altogether.

[frenzexperiment]

best lyrics ever

:)

great playin bro

[echothecrowman]

I tried this from the headphone socket into a 1x12 cab with a v30 speaker, at full volume it is barely audible - have to put my ear to the speaker to hear it, any idea why? My headphones work fine with it, so it can't be faulty. Do i need to use a stereo cable with it maybe?

[realdocloco]

You have to half-plug the jack.

[echothecrowman]

@realdocloco thank you mate...

[srv123]

Hi, tried it and it's a no. Really low volume and thin sounding. Maybe the phones out bypasses something but it doesn't sound like the marshall

[srv123]

Hi,

i've watched most of your demo's and would like to say thanke for putting in the effort.

I'm currently running a blackstar ht-5 and was wondering if the same headphone out trick would work?

Thanks

[realdocloco]

I still have to try but I guess not (or not so well at least).

[V3ryM3tal]

Beautiful guitar!

[JuliaZeppelin]

Ha ha..great song...How loud would you say this amp is? Could it be gigged with and could it be used while jamming with a drummer?

[realdocloco]

At full tilt, it's pretty loud, and it could be used with a drummer in pub-like situations, as long as you don't need perfectly clean tones.

[JuliaZeppelin]

oh that's cool then...thanks...

[igorribnascimento]

Was the volume set at maximum ?

[realdocloco]

No, it's around 6 or 7 on the volume.

[oselifer]

Is there any limitation in the cab you should connect?

In the ohms or anything else?

[realdocloco]

I asked the question myself and it seems that there's no limitation.

[oselifer]

So do you think its safe to connect it to a 4 ohm 2x12cab?

Thank you for the answers..

[undbitter]

Sympa, félicitations !

Au passage, merci Doc Loco, tu as défendu quelque peu les MG de Marshall,

J'ai pas la thune de me payer du Bogner ou autres, je me suis pris un nouveau MG100HHX, et bien je trouve que ça sonne bien cet ampli !

[gerbilho]

Is this volume as low as the Vox Ac4 on 1/4Watt setting?

[realdocloco]

Yes, quite the same

[gerbilho]

then it's still loud for bedroom practice... thanks and by the way nice songs you've uploaded last few days!

[phillyfuzz1]

Awesome! Have you used the Trouble Booster through the Marshall 5? How does it sound? As good as through the AC4?

Keep up the great playing! Great tone and soul!

[realdocloco]

Soryr, a bit late for the answer but ... I've tried the Trouble Booster on the Class 5 today and was delighted! I 've played it with my Gretsch 6119 and my '60 ES-330, with glorious tones.

[realdocloco]

Evidemment il y'a une grosse touche parodique, les paroles et les mimiques ne laissent aucun doute là-dessus ;-)

J'avais simplement besoin d'un truc à chanter pour montrer l'équilibre sonore voix/guitare, alors j'ai fait le premier truc qui me passait par la tête.

Pour le côté crade, encore une fois, je voulais montrer l'équilibre sonore voix/guitare, d'où l'utilisation de l'apn au lieu de micros séparés.

[Jamal75able]

Toi au moins, t'es cool,

Je déconnais !

Faut bien brancher un peu, non au contraire, je trouve que tu es plutôt malin pour faire sonner un ampli que je trouve particulièrement insane.

Félicitations !

[Grungeman1980]

Magistral!

[brigitteborderline]

blues with punk attitude,

great!!!

[poeman333]

What about the impedance? the 2061 is 8ohms and the speaker output on the class 5 is 16ohms. What's the impedance output using the headphone jack?

[realdocloco]

Franckly I don't know - most headphones have a 16 (or even 32 and more) ohms impedance. But considering the headphones output has to go thru a solidstate device (for attenuation), I'm not sure impedance is a concern. Well ... I hope so at least.

[clandessa]

The Class 5 has no solid state circuitry. The headphone out is taken directly from the main speaker out and divided with resistors. It makes no difference if the cab you use is 16, 8 or 4 or whatever because there is a larger resistance in series with it and also a dummy load resistor in parallel.

[clandessa]

Any cab can be used, just go for it!

[realdocloco]

thx a lot :-)

[jawad1973]

Salut merci pour tes videos bien utiles.

J'ai utlisé le 10' d'origine pour le brancher à la sortie casque : c'est mieux comme ça pour une utlisation domestique.

Par contre est ce que tu as noté une modification de la qualité sonore en effactuant cette opération ?

Merci !

[realdocloco]

Inévitablement, le HP est moins sollicité, donc il y'a moins de dynamique; j'ai aussi noté qu'il fallait (logiquement) revoir une peu l'égalisation. Le résultat n'en est pas moins très convaincant avec les cab essayés.

Concernant ton branchement, attention à ne pas laisser le transfo de sortie sans charge par mégarde.

[jawad1973]

Oups tu peux m'expliquer ça stp.

Je n'ai pas bien compris.

Je viens de faire cette opération à savoir branché un jack entre la sortie ecouteurs et le HP

[realdocloco]

Simplement, assure-toi qu'il y'a toujours un HP branché à la sortie de l'ampli

[gainaddict]

beautiful guitar

[bluepingu345]

wow!!! :)

[SenorMicky]

très bon son , c'est quoi le model de la gratte?.

[realdocloco]

C'est une LePape Les Paul junior - une guitare au corps en acier fabriquée par Loïc LePape.