@GahdeMalprigi1488x 666blacksun is a shit hole of a web site with exagerated and completely fabricated facts to support these crackpot philosophies that can be prooven nowhere else. Historical documents as well as Mein Kamf depict holy symbols and constantly refer to "the Creator" and jesus Christ.
@amayagab you are joking right ??? all commies dont believe in god , in order to be a commie you cant be religious. kim and pol pot were atheist , but they cultivated cult of personality after stalin so they can pass power to their family or close friends , just like nicolae ceausescu and enver hoxha
1) Jesus was the founder of the Christian faith, and is believed to be God.
2) Jesus was a Jew.
3) Hitler hated Jews and killed 6 000 000 of them.
4) Hitler worshipped a Jew as God......EXCUSE ME??? ARE YOU ATHEISTS FREAKEN MAD??? Even I don't have enough faith to believe such rubbish, regardless of what Hitler might have said in public for good PR.
Go to Wikipedia yourself, search for Hitler, and go to the section on "Religious views".
Yet, as Steigmann-Gall has also pointed out in the debate about religion in Nazi Germany: "Nominal church membership is a very unreliable gauge of actual piety in this context."
His intention was to wait until the war was over to destroy the influence of Christianity.
Hitler was not atheist. Even if he wasn't christian, that immidiately doesn't make him atheist. He had some positive and negative sides about the religion.
Even if he was atheist, that doesn't mean atheism is what causes all the world's problems. In fact, religion causes loads of wars.
1) I never claimed Hitler was an atheist. (The video is correct that many Nazi's were atheists, but I think it is incorrect to say Hitler was one. I think he was a spiritualist with a deep interest in the occult.)
2) Yes a lot of harm was done in the name of religion, but the same can be said about atheists (Stalin, Pol Pot, etc) You atheists say Hitler was a christian to show how bad Christianity is, but take offence when we turn that logic on you. It's that logic that fails.
"The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death" Hitler said this on Oct 14 1941. Many historians believe that in order to gain Christian support, he would say misleading things to gain Christian support.
@JamesRideout123 Ah, just realized you posted this message before
Hitler was not an atheist, but his aide Martin Bormann was, and so were Baldur von Schirach and Arthur Axmann, and numerous Nazi leaders. Nazism was multi-religious and differing, just like modern societies and parties of the Western World.
Hitler was never at any time during his life an atheist. When Germany started losing the war he consulted with astrologers and psychics and so forth, so he always had some sort of vague and twisted spirituality in his demented mind. However, by 1939 he had clearly rejected Christianity and Catholicism on a personal level and he was hoping to eventually phase them out in Germany at war's end. This has been extensively documented by historians studying the Nazi era in Germany. Peace.
Hitler was a "christian" in the same way the Exxon corp. was environmentalist. It was purely ceremonial and nothing more than window dressing.
Like many politicians today to gain public support and approval deceive the populace. Read "Hitler's Table Talk" 1941 - 1944. Hitler's conversations - talking freely with friends and subordinates recorded by his secretary Martin Bormann.
Hitler was a "christian" in the same way the Exxon corp. was environmentalist. It was purely ceremonial and nothing more than window dressing.
Like many politicians today to gain public support and approval deceive the populace. Read "Hitler's Table Talk" 1941 - 1944. Hitler's conversations - talking freely with friends and subordinates recorded by his secretary Martin Bormann.
That's a good video, mate. Hitler may have claimed to be a Christian, but he clearly wasn't. Just because you say you are something, doesn't make you it. The Bible actually speaks against Hitler and his atrocities.
@Wilkins777 This is a "no true scotsman" argument and does not negate the assertion that A Hitler WAS a Christian.
To wit "Robert Burns was born in Scotland and wore pants all his life", "No true scotsman would wear pants, scotsmen wear kilts. So he couldn't have been a scotsman."
If it goes to church, receives the sacrament and kills innocents, its still a Christian.
@drfoxcourt i just want to help you understand the difference between catholics and christians, catholics think you should ask a priest to ask god to forgive your sins, christians think that all you have to do is ask, catholics believe the virgin mary is queen of heaven, when christains dont, catholics bow down to the pope when christians arent supposed to bow down to anything, if you want to know more i will gladly give you more examples, but i cant write nemore, the point is there is a differe
Christianism is the Christian analogue to Islamism, a doctrine about using Islam as the basis for government. Also known as Christian Nationalism, it is a blend of extremist religion and even more extreme nationalism, going well beyond both. It has occurred in many nations: America through most of its history, the Confederate South, and Nazi Germany are prominent examples. It varies according to the nationalism of each nation, but it the nature of the Christianity is often consistent
In fact, Mein Kampf does not contain a single explicit command for genocide equivalent to those found in the Hebrew Bible... Thus, if all of Mein Kampf is to be rejected simply for its implied genocidal policies, we should certainly reject all of the Bible for some of its explicit and blatant genocidal policies.
fail to see the parallels between certain practices promulgated in the Hebrew Bible itself. Indeed, the supreme irony of the Holocaust is that the genocidal policies first systematically enunciated in the Hebrew scriptures were reversed by the Nazis. Nazi ideology simply had better technology to do what biblical authors had said they would do to their enemies
Nazi ideology is similar to creationist ideology, which believes that scientific findings support the biblical stories of Creation and the Flood.the Nazi Holocaust represents the synthesis of attitudes found in both the New Testament and the Hebrew scriptures.
Unfortunately, Christian Identity isn't a small, isolated ideology with no political or social consequences for the rest of society. The fact of the matter is, CI adherents have big plans for society - plans which the rest of us would probably not be happy about seeing enacted. Understanding the Identity movement cannot be limited to simply learning about their history and current ideological position. In addition, people need to be aware of what sorts of political and social goals they have
The Christian Identity movement is perhaps one of the most dangerous theological doctrines in America today. It is made all the more dangerous by the fact that so few people even realize that it exists, much less what exactly it represents. Christian Identity is the dominant theology of many active right-wing Christian groups, including many if not most Ku Klux Klan organizations
Hitler and the Nazis are often cited as an example of the horrible crimes which atheists have committed in the 20th century. They are only assumed to be atheists, though, because people can't imagine Christians doing such things; in reality, Hitler explicitly appealed to Christianity on a regular basis and this was part of why he was popular. Not every Christian supported the Nazis, of course, but he was most popular with conservative Christians seeking a restoration of traditional values.
"We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out. -Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933
"In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might ... that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross."ADOLF HITLER
I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.
So if you believe everything Hitler says in his public speeches and books about religion- why do we consider almost everything else he said to be propaganda?
You have to look to his private conversations to see his true feelings- most people in Germany were Christian, so of course he was going to try and appeal to them by talking like a Christian
To see much more powerful arguments than those in this video, Google "Hitlersfaith" (one word) & read the first (Liberalslikechrist) web page to learn just how Catholic (Christian) he was and why neither he nor the Catholic Church wanted to change that.
98% of Germans including many in the NAZI leadership considered themselves Catholics and/or Christians at the time.
The Nazi belt buckles had 'Gott Mit Uns' engraved on them which meant 'God With Us'. Hitler believed in God and he believed that God created the universe through evolution and believed that the Aryan race was more evolved than all other races. He believed that the Aryans were God's chosen people. He was not an atheist. Of course, he was not a Christian either. He was the leader and inventor of his own Nazi religion.
However, Stalin, Mao, Mussolini and Pol Pot were all bigoted avid atheists.
If simply not belonging to Christianity is a crime that warrants infinite punishment, then right away, >2/3 of the world's population is automatically going to hell (and that's before I factor in that supposedly, Catholicism is wrong.)
Fundies have no qualm about shoving someone face-first into a deepfryer if they don't belong to THEIR club. Then they compare US to Hitler for saying that is bullshit?
"If we pursue this way, if we are decent, industrious, and honest, if we so loyally and truly fulfill our duty, then it is my conviction that in the future as in the past the Lord God will always help us. In the long run He never leaves decent folk in the lurch. Often He may test them, He may send trials upon them, but in the long run He always lets His sun shine upon them once more and at the end He gives them His blessing." - Adolf Hitler, Buckeburg, 3 October 1937
When making a video whose point is that those of us that disagree with you are idiots, it helps if your spelling and grammar are correct. Just a thought. (Because at the moment your ending sermon makes you appear somewhat dimwitted.)
the big h tard was a devout catholic 50 year old news that needs to be reissued cause christans like to demonize the atheist ppl when they are the demons killing every one i personaly have never been called a nazi
No he wasn't. Devout Catholics are required to attend mass once a week, and they certainly aren't allowed to start Protestant religions (Positive Christianity, Reich Protestant Church), nor are they allowed to kill clergy (Hitler killed thousands). Both result in self-excommunication. Stop making things up you are not qualified to make that assertion and are just misleading people (not that atheists mind so long as it is in an anti-religious direction.)
@skywolf1969 Popular belief holds Hitler to be a true Christian but we know nothing could be further from the truth. Hitler viewed Christianity as "one of the great scourges of society" and said, "let us be one of the first nations to cleanse the world of this scourge" which Hitler proposed to destroy through various means. The whole Evolutionist idea of "I am God" was practiced very well by Hitler and Nazis. Fuhrer a close aide of Hitlers during the war viewed Hitler as rabidly anti-religious.
@dustinjt Hitler needed the support of the German people—both the Bavarian Catholics and the Prussian Lutherans—and to secure this he occasionally used rhetoric such as “I am doing the Lord’s work.” To claim that this rhetoric makes Hitler a Christian is to confuse political opportunism with personal conviction. Hitler himself says in Mein Kampf that his public statements should be understood as propaganda that bears no relation to the truth but is designed to sway the masses.
What he says about propaganda in Mein Kampf is not in any way referential to his Catholic beliefs. He's in fact directly referring to his preceding statement in which he states that Jews are at the same time capitalists and communists. He states that what he says is so fantastical that it could only be believed as true by the weak-minded masses, since they would be inclined to believe that such as statement is so crazy it could not possibly be made up. He was Catholic. Get over it.
@JamesRideout123 Even if one were to prove that Hitlers religious beliefs were all pure propaganda (and one cannot) it makes no difference. His regime was NOT atheistic. It was infused with religion, so the whole argument of propping up the Nazi state as an "atheistic regime" is nonsense, regardless of Hitlers belief or lack thereof.
@BillKiernan Fuhrer's private opinions, assembled by a close aide during the war years, shows Hitler to be rabidly anti-religious. He called Christianity one of the great "scourges" of history, and said of the Germans, "Let's be the only people who are immunized against this disease." He promised that "through the peasantry we shall be able to destroy Christianity." In fact, he blamed the Jews for inventing Christianity. He also condemned Christianity for its opposition to evolution.
@JamesRideout123 the "table talk" book, compiled by an atheist party member, have never been substantiated. and either way, you just ignored my entire post. even if he himself was a closet atheist, his regime was not. Look up Positive Christianity for one reference. You can only speculate about his inner state of mind, but we don't have to speculate about the regime, which was infused with religion from beginning to end.
@BillKiernan Hitler needed the support of the German people—both the Bavarian Catholics and the Prussian Lutherans—and to secure this he occasionally used rhetoric such as “I am doing the Lord’s work.” To claim that this rhetoric makes Hitler a Christian is to confuse political opportunism with personal conviction. Hitler himself says in Mein Kampf that his public statements should be understood as propaganda that bears no relation to the truth but is designed to sway the masses.
@BillKiernan His Army to my knowledge was made up of a mixture of Bavarian Catholics and Prussian Lutherans. The majority of those that murdered tortured and killed did it out of fear. They knew if they didn't do it Hitler would do the same to them. I am at least happy that you understand Hitler's point of view.
@JamesRideout123 By the way, "I am God" is not an evolutionist idea. it's not even a social Darwinist idea (social Darwinism is of course a bastardization of Darwin's theory of natural selection).
@dustinjt Aleister Crowley worked with a group of Satanists and frequently declared himself to be God. Same with Madam Blavasky. Both of them were strongly influenced by Charles Darwin and Evolution. If you don't believe that any of it is true I encourage you to Youtube or Google the New Age.
The Nazis were not Christian, they used this as a cover up. It was well known that they were involved in the occult.
Please do your research before you produce any videos.
wwwdot666BlackSundotcom ->information about Hitler.
GahdeMalprigi1488x 5 months ago
@GahdeMalprigi1488x 666blacksun is a shit hole of a web site with exagerated and completely fabricated facts to support these crackpot philosophies that can be prooven nowhere else. Historical documents as well as Mein Kamf depict holy symbols and constantly refer to "the Creator" and jesus Christ.
amayagab 22 hours ago
WHO CARES IF HE WAS , STALIN ATHEIST , MAO ATHEIST,POL POT ATHEIST, KIM JONG II ATHEIST ETC ETC BETWEEN THEM 150 MILLION KILLED
albokk 6 months ago
@albokk Kim Jong Ill and Pol Pot believed themselves to be Gods. They are false prophets, not atheists
amayagab 22 hours ago
@amayagab you are joking right ??? all commies dont believe in god , in order to be a commie you cant be religious. kim and pol pot were atheist , but they cultivated cult of personality after stalin so they can pass power to their family or close friends , just like nicolae ceausescu and enver hoxha
albokk 11 hours ago
1) Jesus was the founder of the Christian faith, and is believed to be God.
2) Jesus was a Jew.
3) Hitler hated Jews and killed 6 000 000 of them.
4) Hitler worshipped a Jew as God......EXCUSE ME??? ARE YOU ATHEISTS FREAKEN MAD??? Even I don't have enough faith to believe such rubbish, regardless of what Hitler might have said in public for good PR.
Hannodb1961 7 months ago
@Hannodb1961 Check wikipedia idiot.
anticorncob6 7 months ago
@anticorncob6
Go to Wikipedia yourself, search for Hitler, and go to the section on "Religious views".
Yet, as Steigmann-Gall has also pointed out in the debate about religion in Nazi Germany: "Nominal church membership is a very unreliable gauge of actual piety in this context."
His intention was to wait until the war was over to destroy the influence of Christianity.
To quote a two statements. Apology accepted.
Hannodb1961 7 months ago
I am not sorry.
Hitler was not atheist. Even if he wasn't christian, that immidiately doesn't make him atheist. He had some positive and negative sides about the religion.
Even if he was atheist, that doesn't mean atheism is what causes all the world's problems. In fact, religion causes loads of wars.
anticorncob6 7 months ago
@anticorncob6
1) I never claimed Hitler was an atheist. (The video is correct that many Nazi's were atheists, but I think it is incorrect to say Hitler was one. I think he was a spiritualist with a deep interest in the occult.)
2) Yes a lot of harm was done in the name of religion, but the same can be said about atheists (Stalin, Pol Pot, etc) You atheists say Hitler was a christian to show how bad Christianity is, but take offence when we turn that logic on you. It's that logic that fails.
Hannodb1961 7 months ago
"The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death" Hitler said this on Oct 14 1941. Many historians believe that in order to gain Christian support, he would say misleading things to gain Christian support.
@JamesRideout123 Ah, just realized you posted this message before
MrRichard991 8 months ago
Hitler was not an atheist, but his aide Martin Bormann was, and so were Baldur von Schirach and Arthur Axmann, and numerous Nazi leaders. Nazism was multi-religious and differing, just like modern societies and parties of the Western World.
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bodisonhead12 9 months ago
Hitler was never at any time during his life an atheist. When Germany started losing the war he consulted with astrologers and psychics and so forth, so he always had some sort of vague and twisted spirituality in his demented mind. However, by 1939 he had clearly rejected Christianity and Catholicism on a personal level and he was hoping to eventually phase them out in Germany at war's end. This has been extensively documented by historians studying the Nazi era in Germany. Peace.
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Hitler was a "christian" in the same way the Exxon corp. was environmentalist. It was purely ceremonial and nothing more than window dressing.
Like many politicians today to gain public support and approval deceive the populace. Read "Hitler's Table Talk" 1941 - 1944. Hitler's conversations - talking freely with friends and subordinates recorded by his secretary Martin Bormann.
alantois 1 year ago
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Hitler was a "christian" in the same way the Exxon corp. was environmentalist. It was purely ceremonial and nothing more than window dressing.
Like many politicians today to gain public support and approval deceive the populace. Read "Hitler's Table Talk" 1941 - 1944. Hitler's conversations - talking freely with friends and subordinates recorded by his secretary Martin Bormann.
alantois 1 year ago
catholics are alot different than christians, so he was a catholic, not christian, but good job with the vid
doyce1000 1 year ago
That's a good video, mate. Hitler may have claimed to be a Christian, but he clearly wasn't. Just because you say you are something, doesn't make you it. The Bible actually speaks against Hitler and his atrocities.
Titus 1:16, Matthew 7, Romans 1-3
"hey claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good."
Wilkins777 1 year ago
@Wilkins777 This is a "no true scotsman" argument and does not negate the assertion that A Hitler WAS a Christian.
To wit "Robert Burns was born in Scotland and wore pants all his life", "No true scotsman would wear pants, scotsmen wear kilts. So he couldn't have been a scotsman."
If it goes to church, receives the sacrament and kills innocents, its still a Christian.
drfoxcourt 1 year ago
@drfoxcourt i just want to help you understand the difference between catholics and christians, catholics think you should ask a priest to ask god to forgive your sins, christians think that all you have to do is ask, catholics believe the virgin mary is queen of heaven, when christains dont, catholics bow down to the pope when christians arent supposed to bow down to anything, if you want to know more i will gladly give you more examples, but i cant write nemore, the point is there is a differe
doyce1000 1 year ago
Christianism is the Christian analogue to Islamism, a doctrine about using Islam as the basis for government. Also known as Christian Nationalism, it is a blend of extremist religion and even more extreme nationalism, going well beyond both. It has occurred in many nations: America through most of its history, the Confederate South, and Nazi Germany are prominent examples. It varies according to the nationalism of each nation, but it the nature of the Christianity is often consistent
qaplatlhinganmaH 1 year ago
In fact, Mein Kampf does not contain a single explicit command for genocide equivalent to those found in the Hebrew Bible... Thus, if all of Mein Kampf is to be rejected simply for its implied genocidal policies, we should certainly reject all of the Bible for some of its explicit and blatant genocidal policies.
qaplatlhinganmaH 1 year ago
fail to see the parallels between certain practices promulgated in the Hebrew Bible itself. Indeed, the supreme irony of the Holocaust is that the genocidal policies first systematically enunciated in the Hebrew scriptures were reversed by the Nazis. Nazi ideology simply had better technology to do what biblical authors had said they would do to their enemies
qaplatlhinganmaH 1 year ago
Nazi ideology is similar to creationist ideology, which believes that scientific findings support the biblical stories of Creation and the Flood.the Nazi Holocaust represents the synthesis of attitudes found in both the New Testament and the Hebrew scriptures.
qaplatlhinganmaH 1 year ago
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Unfortunately, Christian Identity isn't a small, isolated ideology with no political or social consequences for the rest of society. The fact of the matter is, CI adherents have big plans for society - plans which the rest of us would probably not be happy about seeing enacted. Understanding the Identity movement cannot be limited to simply learning about their history and current ideological position. In addition, people need to be aware of what sorts of political and social goals they have
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The Christian Identity movement is perhaps one of the most dangerous theological doctrines in America today. It is made all the more dangerous by the fact that so few people even realize that it exists, much less what exactly it represents. Christian Identity is the dominant theology of many active right-wing Christian groups, including many if not most Ku Klux Klan organizations
qaplatlhinganmaH 1 year ago
Hitler and the Nazis are often cited as an example of the horrible crimes which atheists have committed in the 20th century. They are only assumed to be atheists, though, because people can't imagine Christians doing such things; in reality, Hitler explicitly appealed to Christianity on a regular basis and this was part of why he was popular. Not every Christian supported the Nazis, of course, but he was most popular with conservative Christians seeking a restoration of traditional values.
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"We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out. -Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933
batigol47 1 year ago
Adolf Hitler
"In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might ... that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross."ADOLF HITLER
I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.
- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 2
qaplatlhinganmaH 1 year ago
@qaplatlhinganmaH
So if you believe everything Hitler says in his public speeches and books about religion- why do we consider almost everything else he said to be propaganda?
You have to look to his private conversations to see his true feelings- most people in Germany were Christian, so of course he was going to try and appeal to them by talking like a Christian
Albyiscool 1 year ago
To see much more powerful arguments than those in this video, Google "Hitlersfaith" (one word) & read the first (Liberalslikechrist) web page to learn just how Catholic (Christian) he was and why neither he nor the Catholic Church wanted to change that.
98% of Germans including many in the NAZI leadership considered themselves Catholics and/or Christians at the time.
Rayosun 1 year ago
Even if hitler was an atheist, he didnt kill in the name of atheism. Its clear that he was not.
jpinsonjr 2 years ago
If he was a christian then why would he take the crosses of cathedrals and force 700,000 protestant youth organizations to disband.
sicilia313 1 year ago
sure
sicilia313 2 years ago
The christian cross is to be removed from all churches and cathedrals and is to be replaced by the immortal symbol of Germany, the swastika.
German Church Regulation
Berlin, 1935
700,000 Members of the protestant Youth organizations were forced to disband
Hitler was an atheist only a fool could not see that
sicilia313 2 years ago
Not quite an atheist, he had a belief in the norse gods.
azzh00le 2 years ago
The Nazi belt buckles had 'Gott Mit Uns' engraved on them which meant 'God With Us'. Hitler believed in God and he believed that God created the universe through evolution and believed that the Aryan race was more evolved than all other races. He believed that the Aryans were God's chosen people. He was not an atheist. Of course, he was not a Christian either. He was the leader and inventor of his own Nazi religion.
However, Stalin, Mao, Mussolini and Pol Pot were all bigoted avid atheists.
EmperorOfEditing 2 years ago 2
haven't you people heard of propaganda
sicilia313 1 year ago
THX4You Mr. 4A... : )
TRUEdemiurg 2 years ago
If simply not belonging to Christianity is a crime that warrants infinite punishment, then right away, >2/3 of the world's population is automatically going to hell (and that's before I factor in that supposedly, Catholicism is wrong.)
Fundies have no qualm about shoving someone face-first into a deepfryer if they don't belong to THEIR club. Then they compare US to Hitler for saying that is bullshit?
grungefreak10 2 years ago 2
"If we pursue this way, if we are decent, industrious, and honest, if we so loyally and truly fulfill our duty, then it is my conviction that in the future as in the past the Lord God will always help us. In the long run He never leaves decent folk in the lurch. Often He may test them, He may send trials upon them, but in the long run He always lets His sun shine upon them once more and at the end He gives them His blessing." - Adolf Hitler, Buckeburg, 3 October 1937
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"by their fruits you shall know them". Hitler was not a Christian.
blessedvic 3 years ago
"by their fruits you shall know them". Hitler was not a Christian.
blessedvic 3 years ago
Hitler believe in the same god as Christian do just like Catholic and Christian
LittoMoon 2 years ago
i will kill for freedom thats my motive for joining millitary happy now
ps ecouse grammar becouse im drunk xD
beer is a funny thing...
patraigh 3 years ago
Yeah
But vodka's funnier
TheHatefulDead 3 years ago
when you have to kill for freedom, there never will be freedom
Greedsux 2 years ago
When making a video whose point is that those of us that disagree with you are idiots, it helps if your spelling and grammar are correct. Just a thought. (Because at the moment your ending sermon makes you appear somewhat dimwitted.)
ehmunro 3 years ago
even if he was... so what?
anyone, I mean ANYONE can be an atheist.
Zipppppppp 3 years ago
You will find people who use those arguments dont know a thing about history
Willfully ignorant
666daedsidog 3 years ago 2
"I can't understand how all this can have happened, it's enough to make one lose one's faith in God!"
[Eva Braun during the last days with Hitler]
4AthiestEvolutionary 3 years ago
5/5 and a sub.
C0ct0pus 4 years ago 2
the big h tard was a devout catholic 50 year old news that needs to be reissued cause christans like to demonize the atheist ppl when they are the demons killing every one i personaly have never been called a nazi
skywolf1969 4 years ago
yeah that's why i made it, theres more than that in there though
4AthiestEvolutionary 4 years ago
No he wasn't. Devout Catholics are required to attend mass once a week, and they certainly aren't allowed to start Protestant religions (Positive Christianity, Reich Protestant Church), nor are they allowed to kill clergy (Hitler killed thousands). Both result in self-excommunication. Stop making things up you are not qualified to make that assertion and are just misleading people (not that atheists mind so long as it is in an anti-religious direction.)
rdiofreeurope 3 years ago
@skywolf1969 Popular belief holds Hitler to be a true Christian but we know nothing could be further from the truth. Hitler viewed Christianity as "one of the great scourges of society" and said, "let us be one of the first nations to cleanse the world of this scourge" which Hitler proposed to destroy through various means. The whole Evolutionist idea of "I am God" was practiced very well by Hitler and Nazis. Fuhrer a close aide of Hitlers during the war viewed Hitler as rabidly anti-religious.
JamesRideout123 1 year ago
@JamesRideout123 Read Mein Kampf. Hitler was clearly Catholic.
dustinjt 1 year ago
@dustinjt Hitler needed the support of the German people—both the Bavarian Catholics and the Prussian Lutherans—and to secure this he occasionally used rhetoric such as “I am doing the Lord’s work.” To claim that this rhetoric makes Hitler a Christian is to confuse political opportunism with personal conviction. Hitler himself says in Mein Kampf that his public statements should be understood as propaganda that bears no relation to the truth but is designed to sway the masses.
JamesRideout123 1 year ago
What he says about propaganda in Mein Kampf is not in any way referential to his Catholic beliefs. He's in fact directly referring to his preceding statement in which he states that Jews are at the same time capitalists and communists. He states that what he says is so fantastical that it could only be believed as true by the weak-minded masses, since they would be inclined to believe that such as statement is so crazy it could not possibly be made up. He was Catholic. Get over it.
dustinjt 1 year ago
@JamesRideout123 Even if one were to prove that Hitlers religious beliefs were all pure propaganda (and one cannot) it makes no difference. His regime was NOT atheistic. It was infused with religion, so the whole argument of propping up the Nazi state as an "atheistic regime" is nonsense, regardless of Hitlers belief or lack thereof.
BillKiernan 1 year ago
@BillKiernan Fuhrer's private opinions, assembled by a close aide during the war years, shows Hitler to be rabidly anti-religious. He called Christianity one of the great "scourges" of history, and said of the Germans, "Let's be the only people who are immunized against this disease." He promised that "through the peasantry we shall be able to destroy Christianity." In fact, he blamed the Jews for inventing Christianity. He also condemned Christianity for its opposition to evolution.
JamesRideout123 1 year ago
@JamesRideout123 the "table talk" book, compiled by an atheist party member, have never been substantiated. and either way, you just ignored my entire post. even if he himself was a closet atheist, his regime was not. Look up Positive Christianity for one reference. You can only speculate about his inner state of mind, but we don't have to speculate about the regime, which was infused with religion from beginning to end.
BillKiernan 1 year ago
@BillKiernan Hitler needed the support of the German people—both the Bavarian Catholics and the Prussian Lutherans—and to secure this he occasionally used rhetoric such as “I am doing the Lord’s work.” To claim that this rhetoric makes Hitler a Christian is to confuse political opportunism with personal conviction. Hitler himself says in Mein Kampf that his public statements should be understood as propaganda that bears no relation to the truth but is designed to sway the masses.
JamesRideout123 1 year ago
@BillKiernan His Army to my knowledge was made up of a mixture of Bavarian Catholics and Prussian Lutherans. The majority of those that murdered tortured and killed did it out of fear. They knew if they didn't do it Hitler would do the same to them. I am at least happy that you understand Hitler's point of view.
JamesRideout123 1 year ago
@JamesRideout123 wait...i'm arguing with a conspiracy nutter. won't make that mistake again.
BillKiernan 1 year ago
@JamesRideout123 By the way, "I am God" is not an evolutionist idea. it's not even a social Darwinist idea (social Darwinism is of course a bastardization of Darwin's theory of natural selection).
dustinjt 1 year ago
@dustinjt Aleister Crowley worked with a group of Satanists and frequently declared himself to be God. Same with Madam Blavasky. Both of them were strongly influenced by Charles Darwin and Evolution. If you don't believe that any of it is true I encourage you to Youtube or Google the New Age.
JamesRideout123 1 year ago