I think my dad used this once on me. Looking back on how they raised me, I'm very blessed that my parents got mad at me. They showed me what was right and what was wrong, and I now know it was because they honestly loved me enough to be angry with me so. But it was always an anger that I felt safe to be around. Love you mom and dad.
@brodieheg no i am not god. this was a rhetorical question since i don't even believe that god exists. but seeing as he is "all-knowing" and "all-powerful" it would make sense to not even have put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden of eden in the first place. plus if god does exist, then he needs to do his damn job. we are all waiting. this god of yours really likes to watch people suffer i think.
@brodieheg uh, no...actually. Driscoll is an arrogant 42 year old sex obsessed perverted frat boy who blasphemes God and makes cheap jokes out of sacred things. He's a pathetic example of what it means to be a new creature in Christ, or sanctified
I love this clip. I'm right there w/ Mark on this one. It's not an excuse for unrighteous anger, but man, there are so many emotionally-repressed and retarded believers (esp. men) out there (not saying I've got it all figured out by ANY means). If injustice happens, we are supposed to be angry, and let that righteous anger fuel us to be a tool of God's justice in the matter. God bless
I love Thomas Kinkade's paintings, i have a couple of them ( now i wanna see how this will start an argument, and we all know it will somehow.) ok ppl! start arguing over what i said!
I cannot believe someone ACTUALLY read comments from MANY MONTHS AGO, left me a message..i gotta scroll back over 200 comments to find it..the fucker..they must not have a life!
@thecolaratlady why on earth are you on a christian video page!!! listen to you, your complaining about christian discussion and using disgusting language. who are you, why are you better than anyone else.
He's right though. God does get angry. So angry, in fact, that not even children or pregnant women are safe (read Hosea 13:16). If this is what purity looks like to Christians, the Salem witch trials, the crusades, and the murdered abortion doctors all make a lot of sense. Go figure.
Mark is a moron. I have taken a class in college focusing on Biblical exegesis. 1)The instructor did not have long hair, he was not a hippie. He was a chaplain at the local hospital. 2)He never said that Yahweh in the OT was 'primitive'. Not once. The class focused on Biblical interpretation; their methodology, reasoning, and history. Unlike Mark, he never shoved an agenda down our throats. He invited us to learn and make up our own minds. Mark is charismatic, but he is intellectually bankrupt.
@matternicuss Not anti-educational. He's making fun of a certain group of people by exaggerating features about them. Obviously not every exegesis teacher will have a mullet... it's a joke. People are allowed to do that, you know? Joke. You should try it some time.
@itskragus It may well have been a joke, but it's true that these types of Christians tend to view college in a negative light. I myself joke all the time. In fact, I found Mark's rant on Twilight and Avatar as being Satanic especially funny.
Why is this called, "Burn Thomas Kinkade paintings"? Pastor Mark never said that here anyway. He said, "There's Thomas Kinkade paintings flying out the door..."
"God is a loving god". Yes, because offering to not throw someone in a never-ending lake of fire to be tortured forever if they just submit themselves to you and worship you for all eternity is OBVIOUSLY the most loving thing you can do.
You know it just dawned on me. Why is God so darn angry at the things that people do if he decreed for them to do it (as Mark would affirm). After all, His will is being accomplished.
"“To me this is like the days of Noah, when I swore that the waters of Noah would never again cover the earth. So now I have sworn not to be angry with you, never to rebuke you again.
Though the mountains be shaken and the hills be removed, yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken nor my covenant of peace be removed,” says the LORD, who has compassion on you." Isaiah 54: 9-10
Because Christ already received the anger/punishment we deserve. Christ saved us from wrath.
"Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son." (John 3:16)
God doesn't send people to Hell. As sinners we stand condemned already and through our disobedience to God choose to go to Hell.
But God made a way through Christ and though no one is perfect Christ is-- so if we repent/turn from our sin, we are pardoned because Christ died for our every sin past present and future.
Wrong. The wrath of God is not a divine temper tantrum. It is not an emotion, but God's personal reaction against sin. Nor is its revelation, for the present, to be seen in fire and brimstone falling on hapless sinners. The gospels do reveal God's righteousness in two ways: wrath and salvation, but it is to be understood this way: apart from Christ the world stands under the wrath of God - lost, enslaved, abandoned. In Christ the world stands under its true Lord - saved, freed, reconciled.
Wrong. The wrath of God is not a divine temper tantrum. It is not an emotion, but God's personal reaction against sin. Nor is its revelation, for the present, to be seen in fire and brimstone falling on hapless sinners. The gospels do reveal God's righteousness in two ways: wrath and salvation, but it is to be understood this way: apart from Christ the world stands under the wrath of God - lost, enslaved, abandoned. In Christ the world stands under its true Lord - saved, freed, reconciled.
Sorry young man but repeating something over and over doesnt make it true. Come back to me after youre done with your silly Wicca/Pagan phase. BTW it makes you arguments about God even more ludicrous because you have substituted animism (worshipping trees and rocks) for intelligibility. But whether you know it or not Paganism is a form of Deism, so you really are one very confused person. Good luck!
@NightHawkBomber001 Which part do you disagree with? BTW I assume my views are correct just as you assume yours are, or else why are you holding them?.
You’ve argued against Wicca, Deism, and I assume you don’t believe in any religions aside from christianity.
What Justification do you have for this desition? Have you honestly looked at all religions and attempted to understand them? or are you assuming because of Bias?
@NightHawkBomber001 Oh I have. Open mindedness is a trick term. Tolerance is the same as fath, something you do until you come to an agreement. I hate the fact for example that parties are oganised as left and right, liberal and conservative. Judaism is wrong, Jesus is trully God and the messiah, Islam is wrong, Revelation trully was the last book of the Bible, do You actually do your research? Do you realise hat Islam has to do to win some ground? Do you know how some try and achieve it?
I don’t assume my views are correct, In fact I am aware of their limitations, I believe what I do based on what knowledge I currently have, and can hold them because they are versatile should new information surface. I hold them because they are the most honest position
@DanS24106 actually I have argued against atheism to a very confused person who thinks that Paganism and Wicca are atheistic religions. They are both Deistic.
@TheShaft245 My point was Wicca does recognize a deity(deities). It is not Atheistic. Atheism denies that we are anything but the results of trillions of collisions of atoms per second happening according to the physical laws of the universe.
"maybe you took some Bible as lit class from some long-haired hippy." AHAHAHAHA YESSSS "He holds lambs, He feathers His hair...He's a real sweetheart." THIS GUY IS TOO FUNNY! And right, of course!
This doesnt even make any since. How do you know he isnt called?
Just because he doesnt sound like most pastors out there that let their congregation chain them to what they can and cannot say? Just because this man tells people the truth without caring about how many people he may upset?
I agree with most people that he may take it to far some times but that doesnt mean he isnt called...
man get a grip you shouldnt talk for God so much like you know his thoughts like hes a mortal like yourself..and whats with the childish dry humor..so not funny you could at least try to convey some kind of point without being so brash and judgemental.
but you must judge everything in the light of scripture. so if you are not sifting thru the garbage of this world to the things that are good. You are living a worldly life.
You have taken that not to judge others out of context. every moment we are making judgement calls. it would take longer than 156 more characters to really explain your incorrect application of those verses.
DUBLIN (AP) -- A mammoth investigation has proved the horrors of their youth, but left many disappointed that their abusers were not named.
A nine-year probe into child abuse by Ireland's Catholic religious orders painted a damning portrait of a system that shielded child-molesters from justice and trapped generations of Ireland's poorest children to misery from the 1930s to the 1990s.
Does it really matter what musical instrument you use to praise the Lord?
It's still praise. It's still Christ-focused. It would be unscriptural to sing the same songs all the time. Psalms 33:3, 144:9, 96:1. Also, Most of the songs that you are calling "satan's music" quote scripture in the words of the songs.
I see your point. However just because thier is an electric guitar does not mean a church plays "Satan music" Look at Third Day one of the most successfull christan bands in history, they even wrote music like Your love oh lord, which is played in church's around the world and they use electric guitars, drums, all the rock intruments yet they make music for the soul purpose of glorifying God and leading others to Christ.
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This guy is, as he says, "stupid"!!!!!!! Just another "Christian" being Christian. "Our God gets angry? If you continue to preach from the OT you will live out the OT. HMMMMM.....
Of course GOD never changes!!! But there is a vast difference between New Covenant and Old Covenant relationship with Him. You see, SIN is not an issue with God; or Christ told a little white lie when He said "It is finished" on the cross.
When God said "It is Finished" he was referring to the creation of redemption! This was the mark for the time when God authored redemption! The statement meant that God had conquered sin and death and the battle of sin and holiness was only a prayer away! God does not lie!
You igmo! Redemption is Christ so it is eternal. WHo have U been listening to? I agree the statement meant that Christ (LIFE) had conquered sin and death and hell and Satan for all time; including as far back as Adam (Rom 3:25). Therefore, sin was once-and-for-all taken care of. Those guilty of UNBELIEF will (on their own) choose to spend eternity without Christ in the lake of fire. Theology is not rocket science dude so don't add to it. No wonder churches are being vacated!!!
Relationship is the same! The means of said relationship is different. God seems pretty fierce in Revelation, even the angels and creatures that praise Him sound super scary, creatures with eyeballs all over them. YIKES
James says do not sin in anger, so obviously the anger itself is not a sin. But he neglects the truth that in Christ we don't need to stay angry. In fact to stay angry is almost guaranteed to lead to sin.
When Jesus drove people from the temple it was to fulfill prophecy which said zeal for my Father's house will consume him. Jesus used this opportunity to teach the lesson of purity of the temple which coincidentally is now our hearts. So be quick to forgive just as your Father forgives.
Mark hold some (Though I don't know much myself) biblical truths. However, his sermon could be a bit one-sided. But damn, people, I do agree that we should be zealous for God. I regret for being so stupid and discarding the biblical teachings I had for 20 years! It difficult to to be Christ-like because carrying the cross requires your all your.
If there is no God, then the universe is result of billions of random occurrences, cause and effect. There is no morality in cause and effect there only is expediency. If morality is not compatible with the logical universe then conscience telling us there is a right and wrong is arbitrary but it is not truth, because the only real truth is cause and effect. Any morality in this model is as good as the next. Atheist "morality" is oxymoronic because they deny the reason for it.
@DanS24106 You obviously haven't seen a science book in your life. There are NO scientists that say that these things are random. Start reading and try again:) Also you obviously don't understand evolution of morals values:)
@lilmarome Dear 22 yr old know it all. I have seen and read plenty of science books. Perhaps you could pull out a philosophy or metaphysics text. Stating that there has to be "meaning" to our existence is not a defense of creationism, only in the existence of a higher power. The "rationalist" view of the universe states only cause and effect determine what happens within the framework of the physical laws governing existence. No "god" no moral
@lilmarome Dear 22 yr old know it all. I have seen and read plenty of science books. Perhaps you could pull out a philosophy or metaphysics text. Stating that there has to be "meaning" to our existence is not a defense of creationism, only in the existence of a higher power. The "rationalist" view of the universe states only cause and effect determine what happens within the framework of the physical laws governing existence. No "god, no morals. Pretty easy to demonstrate, even to you.
@DanS24106 You don't have any justification for stating that there is meaning for our existence other than the meaning that we make ourselves. And you're making a nice strawman there of the "rationalist" view whatever that is. The natural laws are far from random and I don't see any reason why one have to accept that if there is no god there are no morals when that obviously is not the case since we do have morals and no god is to be found.
@lilmarome the view I characterized as cause and effect within the framerwork of the physical laws of the universe is known as the "rationalist" view . You are confused on the use of "random" which means with no thought or design behind them vs your understanding which is that there would be a different effect for every cause. What you think are morals are actually chemical emotions and expediency in your version of the universe. You have ruled out actual morality as there is no good or bad.
@DanS24106 Who are you to tell me what my ideas are or not? I have not said anything about if I believe that there is good or bad. And what is this so called "actual morality"? Evolution has selected individuals that made the species survive and that's how we have morality.
@lilmarome Perhaps we have a language problem here. Actual morality (vs. false morality) is based on concepts of life affirmation and goodness that are enduring outside of self. Where you lose me is explaining that evolutionary adjustments for survival create morality. Survival of one sometimes equals non survival for another. If this is "moral" to you then I now understand your argument and know we are discussing two different things.
@DanS24106 I think you explained it to yourself but don't realize it. The adjustment itself is what creates the morality. Morality that makes your own species survive is ofc the very definition of morality; you care for your own kind if you will. I don't know how that is something different that your "actual morality", being considerate of your own kind and protecting your own kind is what makes your species survive and creates moral beings.
@lilmarome the way you describe morality makes it completely relative to the individual or group or species, therefore it is not actual or "real" morality. Simply and effect (not in and of itself good or bad, moral or immoral) which gives rise to a competitive evolutionary advantage, relative only to the persepctive of those perceiving it.
@DanS24106 So real morality to you is to give advantages to other species than your own? That seems more misguided morality to me. Ofc morality is relative, if it wasn't than it wouldn't be morality, it would be chaos. What's good or bad for the species IS good or bad for the species! Is it so hard to understand?
@DanS24106 Actually, you are very wrong to say that about athiest morality. Athiests follow morality because they have a conscience. They want to make this world a better place for their kids and their kids. Christians follow a book because they are afraid of eternal torture, not to improve the lives of people. Now who seems more moral? God is not a reason for morality.
@ericdravenashecorven You are very confused as well because your view of the universe rules out the entire concept of morality. You import God centered concepts of right and wrong, good and evil into your cosmology and then toss out the God part. They can't exist unless they are universal and outside of yourself. The universe you subscribe to is about cause and effect, good and bad dont enter into it. Your morality is actually expediency.
@DanS24106 And again you just proven your ignorance. I'm not an athiest. However, since athiests are hurt by christians (the same as Pagans, such as myself), I get along with them quite well. I have many athiest friends and family. And god has nothing to do with right and wrong. As I said, it's conscience, not god. That's just as stupid as saying, "Well, in order to deny something exists, you have to believe it exists to deny it." And even so, god has no morals in the bible.
@DanS24106 what's your point - morality is necessary for the existence of a physical universe? Yes, morality is arbitrary, but as you've pointed out, it is about cause and effect. And a so-called moral sense that is detrimental to a society can hardly be considered "as good as the next."
@DanS24106 Is the reason for morality different than its origin? The reason I eat food is because i am hungry, but the reason I have food is because it grew and I bought it. Like the reason for morality could be to improve your world, but the origin of morality is from your own opinions about life and its purpose. Different things. Maybe? Just a thought.
Hey ignorant preacher, Thomas Kinkaid does great things for our community including supporting drug and alcohol rehab centers in my community. We don't need your opinion. We need to hear the word of God.
Gotta give props for the Kinkade comment! That said, I think he is a little off with the anger. I think what he is getting at of not just tolerating injustice is fine, but anger breeds hate. It is up to God to judge. We as "Christians" follow Christ's example. Turn the other cheek. Go the extra mile.
Don't just buy art cuz someone puts a bible verse under it. That don't make it good art. Kinkade would paint Scientology paintings if he thought it would make more money.
His fruit, from an outside standpoint, is great. He is reaching a group you will never even contact. Don't bash him unless you have Scripture to back it up, and I doubt you know much of the Bible. Christian wuss.
ahh so its a numbers and popularity game now is it? I don't buy it, sorry. I think Mark is slightly distorting alot of scriptures and alot of what others do, and he should not be judging them that way. Is it a joke to say things like :I just want to grab the guy by the throat and punch him in the throat"? Would jesus laugh at that? As far as anger, its not evil, but its also, not what we should focus on, Mark doesn't seem to get that.
Besides, the Bible says it's ok to be angry but to let that anger go before the end of the day. The right to be angry can be taken too far and the Bible has given us guidelines on how to handle anger; the Bible says you can have it, but you can't keep it, we need to let it go so we won't fall into sin as said in Ephesians 4:26. the Bible encourages to remove our anger, not grasp onto it.
"if something horrible happens and you feel good there is something wrong with you."
There is a difference between feeling good about a bad thing and letting go a bad thing. If something bad happened to me I would not want to get angry and mad, why? Because I don't like how it feels. If a person is able to not get angry about certain things then it may mean that God has done that for them because they prefer a peaceful life.
"if something horrible happens and you feel good there is something wrong with you." this line is severely mispoken, and judgmental. Can one feel good when bad things happen? YES, its called peace that comes from God himself, what is wrong with that? We aren't oblivious to pain, but we trust in God, perhaps people like Mark need to learn this.
@awallwii yup. i love it, they spoke wonderfully. nm i'm still trying to figure out wtf thomas kinkade has to do with rape???? im confident, aware of my surroundings, always get my own drinks, food, plus other logical precautions.a black belt, plus armed with a knife necklace, a .45 on my hip, a .38 on my thigh, and a razor on my ankle. a few ppl tried that shit with me and they ended up in a coma yrs ago that they have yet to come out of. it's such a dangerous world out there
@parymich777 Yeah really..what in sam hell does thomas kinkade have to do with rape????? plus i read your comment and your right, shitty things can and will happen in this world.i and i know that this too shall pass and it does.
I've been through more things in my 44 yrs then some ppl wouldnt see in several lifetimes, but i am happy, i dont live in the past.. the past is gone..never to happen again, i happily live for today, anticipate the future
@thecolaratlady Look at his paintings. His paintings represent the "happiness" that many Christians always feel like their meant to wear. True Christianity has no guarantee of happiness. We face opposition and get angry. Life isn't hard because we aren't happy enough. The joy that we're encouraged with in the new testament is meant to remind us of the gifts God gives us for the remainder of our life and for the new life that is waiting in heaven. This life we live, we are at war against Satan.
If I had gone to a church with a preacher like this guy growing up instead of a stuffy southern baptist church I might not be agnostic today. I sat here and watched the whole video and will watch others with him unlike other preachers where I don't even start to listen cause they're all to goody two shoes bullshit.
you cannot blame preachers for your decision today. You are in control of your own life, not what some preacher says or does, and if you are looking for someone to just say what makes you feel good then somethings wrong. Man fails, God doesn't fail, please remember that, and try to separate the two, God Bless
How can u worship a god that would punish forever, without the purpose of discipline and redemption?
Hell is a refiners fire that won't burn out if stoked, just as the light of heaven won't go dark. Sin/ missing the mark will continue to produce bad fruit/ results in your life, throughout the ages, until one repents/ rethinks and calls out for righteousness from within and without. At which point the purifying Holy Spirit can flourish
Pastor, you may want to punch "the southern Pastor in the throat", but I guarantee you would shake his hand and smile REAL big if you ever met him in person. By the way, he has never had a message at his church entitled "Pastor Driscoll: What a such and such", give me a break...
I know how this man feels! I get pissed off with people thinking I should act like a little sweetie pie!! It is just STUPID!! It's like saying if someone breaks into my house, I should make him a cup of tea & make him feel welcome!! It is pure stupidity!!
"Bible Lit Class from some long haired hippie."
You mean Jesus?
AntiYourFacePhD 4 days ago
"I love ya', that's why I yell at ya'"
Considering Pastor Driscoll's less-than-progressive views on women, that's a very creepy way to start a video.
AntiYourFacePhD 4 days ago
I'M CURRENTLY TAKING A BIBLE AS LIT CLASS FROM A LONG HAIRED HIPPIE.
janeym 1 week ago
"I love ya. That's why I yell at ya"
I think my dad used this once on me. Looking back on how they raised me, I'm very blessed that my parents got mad at me. They showed me what was right and what was wrong, and I now know it was because they honestly loved me enough to be angry with me so. But it was always an anger that I felt safe to be around. Love you mom and dad.
taylordrake4 1 week ago
if god hates evil so much, why doesn't he do something about it?
tdrpowerl 3 weeks ago 2
@tdrpowerl why do think you should know all of Gods reasons? i mean are you God, why dont you let him do his job
brodieheg 1 week ago
@brodieheg no i am not god. this was a rhetorical question since i don't even believe that god exists. but seeing as he is "all-knowing" and "all-powerful" it would make sense to not even have put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden of eden in the first place. plus if god does exist, then he needs to do his damn job. we are all waiting. this god of yours really likes to watch people suffer i think.
tdrpowerl 1 week ago
WWJD? Rebuke the living daylights out of Mark Driscoll and all his ilk
310revelation 3 weeks ago
@310revelation why? cause he doesnt like hippies? calm down
brodieheg 1 week ago
@brodieheg uh, no...actually. Driscoll is an arrogant 42 year old sex obsessed perverted frat boy who blasphemes God and makes cheap jokes out of sacred things. He's a pathetic example of what it means to be a new creature in Christ, or sanctified
310revelation 1 week ago
i love michael w smith >.> XD
FreelySoaring 1 month ago
I love this clip. I'm right there w/ Mark on this one. It's not an excuse for unrighteous anger, but man, there are so many emotionally-repressed and retarded believers (esp. men) out there (not saying I've got it all figured out by ANY means). If injustice happens, we are supposed to be angry, and let that righteous anger fuel us to be a tool of God's justice in the matter. God bless
andrewdreiling11 1 month ago
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I cant help but feel that Driscoll is a cunt.
willhum 1 month ago
I love Thomas Kinkade's paintings, i have a couple of them ( now i wanna see how this will start an argument, and we all know it will somehow.) ok ppl! start arguing over what i said!
thecolaratlady 1 month ago
I cannot believe someone ACTUALLY read comments from MANY MONTHS AGO, left me a message..i gotta scroll back over 200 comments to find it..the fucker..they must not have a life!
thecolaratlady 1 month ago
@thecolaratlady why on earth are you on a christian video page!!! listen to you, your complaining about christian discussion and using disgusting language. who are you, why are you better than anyone else.
brodieheg 1 week ago
@brodieheg YOU NEED TO REREAD SHITHEAD
thecolaratlady 1 week ago
4:22 right on
anvilheaded 2 months ago
He's right though. God does get angry. So angry, in fact, that not even children or pregnant women are safe (read Hosea 13:16). If this is what purity looks like to Christians, the Salem witch trials, the crusades, and the murdered abortion doctors all make a lot of sense. Go figure.
matternicuss 4 months ago
Mark is a moron. I have taken a class in college focusing on Biblical exegesis. 1)The instructor did not have long hair, he was not a hippie. He was a chaplain at the local hospital. 2)He never said that Yahweh in the OT was 'primitive'. Not once. The class focused on Biblical interpretation; their methodology, reasoning, and history. Unlike Mark, he never shoved an agenda down our throats. He invited us to learn and make up our own minds. Mark is charismatic, but he is intellectually bankrupt.
matternicuss 4 months ago
@matternicuss Bud... it's a hyperbole.
itskragus 4 months ago
@itskragus What's hyperbolic? God's murderous rage in the OT? Or Mark's not so subtle anti-educational anecdote?
matternicuss 4 months ago
@matternicuss Not anti-educational. He's making fun of a certain group of people by exaggerating features about them. Obviously not every exegesis teacher will have a mullet... it's a joke. People are allowed to do that, you know? Joke. You should try it some time.
itskragus 4 months ago
@itskragus It may well have been a joke, but it's true that these types of Christians tend to view college in a negative light. I myself joke all the time. In fact, I found Mark's rant on Twilight and Avatar as being Satanic especially funny.
matternicuss 4 months ago
"We are sweetie-pies." HAHA!
Ahda8 4 months ago
Why is this called, "Burn Thomas Kinkade paintings"? Pastor Mark never said that here anyway. He said, "There's Thomas Kinkade paintings flying out the door..."
twoxcell 4 months ago
@twoxcell I think their really nice paintings....
Bubbleyumizchewi17 4 months ago
@twoxcell right, and thomas kinkade is a christian
thecolaratlady 3 months ago
"God is a loving god". Yes, because offering to not throw someone in a never-ending lake of fire to be tortured forever if they just submit themselves to you and worship you for all eternity is OBVIOUSLY the most loving thing you can do.
Master0fPuppets231 5 months ago
why on earth would u call your church 'mars hill' church and have a pyramide shade in the background?
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CheetoBronze 5 months ago
@CheetoBronze You spelled pastor wrong
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CheetoBronze 5 months ago
@CheetoBronze Dude, get over yourself...there was no look of arrogance, some people laugh at their own jokes, actually most everyone.
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CheetoBronze 4 months ago
@CheetoBronze At least you're working on it :)
jselvrom 4 months ago
@CheetoBronze sorry, you had to delete yourself, haha
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CheetoBronze 5 months ago
Punch other Christians in the throat?
"My dear brothers, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry,"
(James 1:19)
"'Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD."
(Leviticus 19:18)
The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself."
(Galatians 5:14)
robertfostermusic 5 months ago
God is angry?
"“To me this is like the days of Noah, when I swore that the waters of Noah would never again cover the earth.
So now I have sworn not to be angry with you, never to rebuke you again.
Though the mountains be shaken and the hills be removed,
yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken nor my covenant of peace be removed,” says the LORD, who has compassion on you. "
(Isaiah 54: 9-10)
robertfostermusic 5 months ago
You know it just dawned on me. Why is God so darn angry at the things that people do if he decreed for them to do it (as Mark would affirm). After all, His will is being accomplished.
faithandpractice 5 months ago
He's not angry
"“To me this is like the days of Noah, when I swore that the waters of Noah would never again cover the earth. So now I have sworn not to be angry with you, never to rebuke you again.
Though the mountains be shaken and the hills be removed, yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken nor my covenant of peace be removed,” says the LORD, who has compassion on you." Isaiah 54: 9-10
Because Christ already received the anger/punishment we deserve. Christ saved us from wrath.
robertfostermusic 5 months ago
"Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son." (John 3:16)
God doesn't send people to Hell. As sinners we stand condemned already and through our disobedience to God choose to go to Hell.
But God made a way through Christ and though no one is perfect Christ is-- so if we repent/turn from our sin, we are pardoned because Christ died for our every sin past present and future.
robertfostermusic 5 months ago
OORAH!!!
The2012west 5 months ago
Wrong. The wrath of God is not a divine temper tantrum. It is not an emotion, but God's personal reaction against sin. Nor is its revelation, for the present, to be seen in fire and brimstone falling on hapless sinners. The gospels do reveal God's righteousness in two ways: wrath and salvation, but it is to be understood this way: apart from Christ the world stands under the wrath of God - lost, enslaved, abandoned. In Christ the world stands under its true Lord - saved, freed, reconciled.
gchurchva 7 months ago 2
Wrong. The wrath of God is not a divine temper tantrum. It is not an emotion, but God's personal reaction against sin. Nor is its revelation, for the present, to be seen in fire and brimstone falling on hapless sinners. The gospels do reveal God's righteousness in two ways: wrath and salvation, but it is to be understood this way: apart from Christ the world stands under the wrath of God - lost, enslaved, abandoned. In Christ the world stands under its true Lord - saved, freed, reconciled.
gchurchva 7 months ago
HE'S SO FUNNY. I love his spoofs.
janeym 7 months ago
Sorry young man but repeating something over and over doesnt make it true. Come back to me after youre done with your silly Wicca/Pagan phase. BTW it makes you arguments about God even more ludicrous because you have substituted animism (worshipping trees and rocks) for intelligibility. But whether you know it or not Paganism is a form of Deism, so you really are one very confused person. Good luck!
DanS24106 10 months ago
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@DanS24106 And what right do you have to assume your views are correct?
NightHawkBomber001 10 months ago
@NightHawkBomber001 Which part do you disagree with? BTW I assume my views are correct just as you assume yours are, or else why are you holding them?.
DanS24106 10 months ago
@DanS24106
You’ve promoted Christianity.
You’ve argued against Wicca, Deism, and I assume you don’t believe in any religions aside from christianity.
What Justification do you have for this desition? Have you honestly looked at all religions and attempted to understand them? or are you assuming because of Bias?
NightHawkBomber001 10 months ago
@NightHawkBomber001 Oh I have. Open mindedness is a trick term. Tolerance is the same as fath, something you do until you come to an agreement. I hate the fact for example that parties are oganised as left and right, liberal and conservative. Judaism is wrong, Jesus is trully God and the messiah, Islam is wrong, Revelation trully was the last book of the Bible, do You actually do your research? Do you realise hat Islam has to do to win some ground? Do you know how some try and achieve it?
desasterz 9 months ago
@DanS24106
I don’t assume my views are correct, In fact I am aware of their limitations, I believe what I do based on what knowledge I currently have, and can hold them because they are versatile should new information surface. I hold them because they are the most honest position
NightHawkBomber001 10 months ago
@DanS24106 actually I have argued against atheism to a very confused person who thinks that Paganism and Wicca are atheistic religions. They are both Deistic.
DanS24106 10 months ago
@DanS24106 wicca's new age! more pantheistic
TheShaft245 7 months ago
@DanS24106 wicca's new age! more pantheistic than anything
TheShaft245 7 months ago
@TheShaft245 My point was Wicca does recognize a deity(deities). It is not Atheistic. Atheism denies that we are anything but the results of trillions of collisions of atoms per second happening according to the physical laws of the universe.
DanS24106 7 months ago
Be angry but sin not.. great message.. :)
Finnion 10 months ago
This is like church with built in stand up comedy. LOL
rabidx 1 year ago
21 people love them some Thomas Kinkade paintings.
RJK5000 1 year ago 2
I looked up Thomas Kinkade, and though his paintings seem sickly twee and 'chocolate-box', I didn't see anything Christian about them.
Why would they be sold in Church bookshops? Is this what Mr Driscoll is getting at?
Mojosbigstick 1 year ago
LOVE IT! get em mark
hays012 1 year ago
Is Mark Driscoll wearing a Masonic Symbol!?!?!
littlebillyster182 1 year ago
"that...is not a Christian emotion...we..are..sweetie-pies.."
LoL
macroheart 1 year ago
MARK DRISCOLL!! If you want to convert Henry Rollins...
desasterz 1 year ago
gago ka
animazion29 1 year ago
"maybe you took some Bible as lit class from some long-haired hippy." AHAHAHAHA YESSSS "He holds lambs, He feathers His hair...He's a real sweetheart." THIS GUY IS TOO FUNNY! And right, of course!
janeym 1 year ago
Gets the tip ex and corrects all the stupid sunday school kids bibles!!!
desasterz 1 year ago
Why Thomas kinkade? What does this have to do with him? LAstly, is this guy a preacher or a comedian?????????
cbmbdb 1 year ago
God gets angery because he loves whats good. I hate Johnas Brothers because I love music!
desasterz 1 year ago
Psalm 4:4 Be angry, and do not sin. Meditate within your heart on your bed, and be still.
Ephesians 4:26-27 Be angry, and do not sin: do not let the sun go down on your wrath, nor give place to the devil.
TreyDubzz 1 year ago
what the hell does this have to do with Thomas Kinkade?
ObjectivstK 2 years ago
I am not a Christian anymore, but I certainly do love this guy a bucket.
Stellaspike 2 years ago
I got a verse! Gonna go Beat someone up for Jesus!
mccabber24 2 years ago
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i will kill this dickhead, he looks like shit
evaniskandar 2 years ago
this is what happens when someone does'nt get "THE CALL" and decides to be a preacher anyway.. moronic.
4eternity69 2 years ago
This doesnt even make any since. How do you know he isnt called?
Just because he doesnt sound like most pastors out there that let their congregation chain them to what they can and cannot say? Just because this man tells people the truth without caring about how many people he may upset?
I agree with most people that he may take it to far some times but that doesnt mean he isnt called...
HypoTheLlamas 1 year ago
man get a grip you shouldnt talk for God so much like you know his thoughts like hes a mortal like yourself..and whats with the childish dry humor..so not funny you could at least try to convey some kind of point without being so brash and judgemental.
4eternity69 2 years ago
Can you hear the DISTAIN?
trupela 2 years ago 2
I'm a christian.
and i dont think it should matter how you praise/ worship god.
Plus in the bible it says not to judge others. He should teach others about christianity, not shoving it down their throats.
SweetyCake 2 years ago
it doesn't matter how you praise.
but you must judge everything in the light of scripture. so if you are not sifting thru the garbage of this world to the things that are good. You are living a worldly life.
You have taken that not to judge others out of context. every moment we are making judgement calls. it would take longer than 156 more characters to really explain your incorrect application of those verses.
JMackeyIII 2 years ago
Proverbs. You don't have a clue do you?
4me2cclearly 2 years ago 2
DUBLIN (AP) -- A mammoth investigation has proved the horrors of their youth, but left many disappointed that their abusers were not named.
A nine-year probe into child abuse by Ireland's Catholic religious orders painted a damning portrait of a system that shielded child-molesters from justice and trapped generations of Ireland's poorest children to misery from the 1930s to the 1990s.
Let those without sin cast the first stone!
4me2cclearly 2 years ago
Does it really matter what musical instrument you use to praise the Lord?
It's still praise. It's still Christ-focused. It would be unscriptural to sing the same songs all the time. Psalms 33:3, 144:9, 96:1. Also, Most of the songs that you are calling "satan's music" quote scripture in the words of the songs.
jman7759 2 years ago 2
Satan's music? You've got to be kidding me. No wonder the world hates Jesus.
ensleykeri 2 years ago
I see your point. However just because thier is an electric guitar does not mean a church plays "Satan music" Look at Third Day one of the most successfull christan bands in history, they even wrote music like Your love oh lord, which is played in church's around the world and they use electric guitars, drums, all the rock intruments yet they make music for the soul purpose of glorifying God and leading others to Christ.
drumlinechica 2 years ago 2
Judge something by it's appearance? Sounds more like a Pharisee to me.
ensleykeri 2 years ago
That's very judgemental of you.
ensleykeri 2 years ago
Must be talking about Joel Osteen!
bcraw06 2 years ago
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This guy is, as he says, "stupid"!!!!!!! Just another "Christian" being Christian. "Our God gets angry? If you continue to preach from the OT you will live out the OT. HMMMMM.....
4givn4life 2 years ago
what makes you think that the God of the Old Testament changed ?
Soldier7of7Christ 2 years ago
Of course GOD never changes!!! But there is a vast difference between New Covenant and Old Covenant relationship with Him. You see, SIN is not an issue with God; or Christ told a little white lie when He said "It is finished" on the cross.
4givn4life 2 years ago
When God said "It is Finished" he was referring to the creation of redemption! This was the mark for the time when God authored redemption! The statement meant that God had conquered sin and death and the battle of sin and holiness was only a prayer away! God does not lie!
bcraw06 2 years ago
You igmo! Redemption is Christ so it is eternal. WHo have U been listening to? I agree the statement meant that Christ (LIFE) had conquered sin and death and hell and Satan for all time; including as far back as Adam (Rom 3:25). Therefore, sin was once-and-for-all taken care of. Those guilty of UNBELIEF will (on their own) choose to spend eternity without Christ in the lake of fire. Theology is not rocket science dude so don't add to it. No wonder churches are being vacated!!!
4givn4life 2 years ago
4givn4life, is your other account ele12957?
Utopiang 2 years ago
Relationship is the same! The means of said relationship is different. God seems pretty fierce in Revelation, even the angels and creatures that praise Him sound super scary, creatures with eyeballs all over them. YIKES
BingoGanush 2 years ago 2
AMEN!
devanaire 2 years ago
recommendation: Get on the mars hill website and hear the whole sermon...
Soldier7of7Christ 2 years ago
I agree!
mjpunk1234 2 years ago
James says do not sin in anger, so obviously the anger itself is not a sin. But he neglects the truth that in Christ we don't need to stay angry. In fact to stay angry is almost guaranteed to lead to sin.
When Jesus drove people from the temple it was to fulfill prophecy which said zeal for my Father's house will consume him. Jesus used this opportunity to teach the lesson of purity of the temple which coincidentally is now our hearts. So be quick to forgive just as your Father forgives.
nickimusreximus 2 years ago
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fucking nothing to do with thomas kinkade
theclockstickin 3 years ago
where do they get their conscience, if not from their creator?
humangodart 3 years ago
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what a load of shit
pingata1 3 years ago
His words make sense, but there's something about him that's rather off-putting.
Corax83 3 years ago
i agree... i cant quite put my finger on it.
superlizabeth 2 years ago
I hope so, because if what is says were easy, it wouldn't be true.
Yahoomonk 2 years ago
Maybe you're not used to talking to commoners
Insaneplanetman 2 years ago
Deep but very true... totally agree with what he says
xChAn3lx 3 years ago 5
Mark hold some (Though I don't know much myself) biblical truths. However, his sermon could be a bit one-sided. But damn, people, I do agree that we should be zealous for God. I regret for being so stupid and discarding the biblical teachings I had for 20 years! It difficult to to be Christ-like because carrying the cross requires your all your.
Blitzthis1 3 years ago
If there is no God, then the universe is result of billions of random occurrences, cause and effect. There is no morality in cause and effect there only is expediency. If morality is not compatible with the logical universe then conscience telling us there is a right and wrong is arbitrary but it is not truth, because the only real truth is cause and effect. Any morality in this model is as good as the next. Atheist "morality" is oxymoronic because they deny the reason for it.
DanS24106 3 years ago 25
@DanS24106 Well said, sir!!!
and our GOD is a HOLY consuming FIRE, He is not lukewarm, He is passionate!
michelle2chat 1 year ago
@DanS24106
And that is the Transcendental Argument for the Existence of God.
DuesEstSemperFidelis 1 year ago
@DanS24106 You obviously haven't seen a science book in your life. There are NO scientists that say that these things are random. Start reading and try again:) Also you obviously don't understand evolution of morals values:)
lilmarome 1 year ago
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DanS24106 1 year ago
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@lilmarome Dear 22 yr old know it all. I have seen and read plenty of science books. Perhaps you could pull out a philosophy or metaphysics text. Stating that there has to be "meaning" to our existence is not a defense of creationism, only in the existence of a higher power. The "rationalist" view of the universe states only cause and effect determine what happens within the framework of the physical laws governing existence. No "god" no moral
DanS24106 1 year ago
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@lilmarome Dear 22 yr old know it all. I have seen and read plenty of science books. Perhaps you could pull out a philosophy or metaphysics text. Stating that there has to be "meaning" to our existence is not a defense of creationism, only in the existence of a higher power. The "rationalist" view of the universe states only cause and effect determine what happens within the framework of the physical laws governing existence. No "god, no morals. Pretty easy to demonstrate, even to you.
DanS24106 1 year ago
@DanS24106 You don't have any justification for stating that there is meaning for our existence other than the meaning that we make ourselves. And you're making a nice strawman there of the "rationalist" view whatever that is. The natural laws are far from random and I don't see any reason why one have to accept that if there is no god there are no morals when that obviously is not the case since we do have morals and no god is to be found.
lilmarome 1 year ago
@lilmarome the view I characterized as cause and effect within the framerwork of the physical laws of the universe is known as the "rationalist" view . You are confused on the use of "random" which means with no thought or design behind them vs your understanding which is that there would be a different effect for every cause. What you think are morals are actually chemical emotions and expediency in your version of the universe. You have ruled out actual morality as there is no good or bad.
DanS24106 1 year ago
@DanS24106 Who are you to tell me what my ideas are or not? I have not said anything about if I believe that there is good or bad. And what is this so called "actual morality"? Evolution has selected individuals that made the species survive and that's how we have morality.
lilmarome 1 year ago
@lilmarome Perhaps we have a language problem here. Actual morality (vs. false morality) is based on concepts of life affirmation and goodness that are enduring outside of self. Where you lose me is explaining that evolutionary adjustments for survival create morality. Survival of one sometimes equals non survival for another. If this is "moral" to you then I now understand your argument and know we are discussing two different things.
DanS24106 1 year ago
@DanS24106 I think you explained it to yourself but don't realize it. The adjustment itself is what creates the morality. Morality that makes your own species survive is ofc the very definition of morality; you care for your own kind if you will. I don't know how that is something different that your "actual morality", being considerate of your own kind and protecting your own kind is what makes your species survive and creates moral beings.
lilmarome 1 year ago
@lilmarome the way you describe morality makes it completely relative to the individual or group or species, therefore it is not actual or "real" morality. Simply and effect (not in and of itself good or bad, moral or immoral) which gives rise to a competitive evolutionary advantage, relative only to the persepctive of those perceiving it.
DanS24106 1 year ago
@DanS24106 So real morality to you is to give advantages to other species than your own? That seems more misguided morality to me. Ofc morality is relative, if it wasn't than it wouldn't be morality, it would be chaos. What's good or bad for the species IS good or bad for the species! Is it so hard to understand?
lilmarome 1 year ago
@DanS24106 Actually, you are very wrong to say that about athiest morality. Athiests follow morality because they have a conscience. They want to make this world a better place for their kids and their kids. Christians follow a book because they are afraid of eternal torture, not to improve the lives of people. Now who seems more moral? God is not a reason for morality.
ericdravenashecorven 10 months ago
@ericdravenashecorven You are very confused as well because your view of the universe rules out the entire concept of morality. You import God centered concepts of right and wrong, good and evil into your cosmology and then toss out the God part. They can't exist unless they are universal and outside of yourself. The universe you subscribe to is about cause and effect, good and bad dont enter into it. Your morality is actually expediency.
DanS24106 10 months ago
@DanS24106 And again you just proven your ignorance. I'm not an athiest. However, since athiests are hurt by christians (the same as Pagans, such as myself), I get along with them quite well. I have many athiest friends and family. And god has nothing to do with right and wrong. As I said, it's conscience, not god. That's just as stupid as saying, "Well, in order to deny something exists, you have to believe it exists to deny it." And even so, god has no morals in the bible.
ericdravenashecorven 10 months ago
@DanS24106 Morality: good and evil, Right and wrong, do not require God.
NightHawkBomber001 10 months ago
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@ericdravenashecorven "Christians follow a book because they are afraid of eternal torture"
That may be true in many cases, but it's false in general.
shamgar001 10 months ago
@DanS24106 what's your point - morality is necessary for the existence of a physical universe? Yes, morality is arbitrary, but as you've pointed out, it is about cause and effect. And a so-called moral sense that is detrimental to a society can hardly be considered "as good as the next."
wellesradio 8 months ago
@DanS24106 Is the reason for morality different than its origin? The reason I eat food is because i am hungry, but the reason I have food is because it grew and I bought it. Like the reason for morality could be to improve your world, but the origin of morality is from your own opinions about life and its purpose. Different things. Maybe? Just a thought.
MrGoatsGoToHeaven 8 months ago
@MrGoatsGoToHeaven I have read this numerous times and am having trouble understanding your analogy. Is there a different way you can put this?
DanS24106 7 months ago
@DanS24106 Hell no!
MrGoatsGoToHeaven 7 months ago
@DanS24106 okay so if you believe that, troll somewhere else with the people who agree with you.
Fireproofretz 7 months ago
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@Fireproofretz why dont you do the same?
DanS24106 7 months ago
@Fireproofretz Talk about trolling...
mickdukes 7 months ago
@DanS24106 nonsense
marcohorowitz8 7 months ago
well he acts like he knows what he's talking about. he just doesn't preach like it.
boothw 3 years ago
It's men like this who truly frighten me.
shalynnajjar 3 years ago
I apologize, I shouldn't have insulted dicks by comparing them to Mark.
Offspring1337 3 years ago
Hey ignorant preacher, Thomas Kinkaid does great things for our community including supporting drug and alcohol rehab centers in my community. We don't need your opinion. We need to hear the word of God.
hickoryhop 3 years ago
I think he is a nut. He talks about commercialism.
bushidoblade1974 2 years ago
Mark is a total dick.
Offspring1337 3 years ago
intelligent...
crossbarz 3 years ago
god gets angry but he is not an "ANGRY PERSON". Oh boy, you got a lot of stuff to deal man...
jasonbourne100377 3 years ago
Gotta give props for the Kinkade comment! That said, I think he is a little off with the anger. I think what he is getting at of not just tolerating injustice is fine, but anger breeds hate. It is up to God to judge. We as "Christians" follow Christ's example. Turn the other cheek. Go the extra mile.
Don't just buy art cuz someone puts a bible verse under it. That don't make it good art. Kinkade would paint Scientology paintings if he thought it would make more money.
dankyd53 3 years ago
you can have anger in moderation. God just tells us in is word, that we are not to let it lead us to sin.
mythoughtsfortoday 3 years ago 3
and smoke in every chimney too!
sweetangel50 3 years ago
"I'm sweatin' I pulled a ham string" LOL I just fell out! God bless you!
loveualatte 3 years ago 2
"I just wanna grab those guys by their mullet and punch them in the throat and read Lamentations to them" LOL
WaitingforChrist 3 years ago 28
What a sorry teacher and evangelist this man is, a real embarassment to The Body of Christ.
if the idea is to win souls, what's your fruit looking like Mark?
madamegrace 3 years ago
His fruit, from an outside standpoint, is great. He is reaching a group you will never even contact. Don't bash him unless you have Scripture to back it up, and I doubt you know much of the Bible. Christian wuss.
Zeraphim20 3 years ago
Why do I need scripture to back up my statement up? see that's what wrong
with you so call christians that always
quote scripture and mostly out of context.
I've been a Bible student for 35years, and
seriously doublt you could go toe to toe with
me." his fruit from an outside standpoint is great" what does that mean? is he bring people
to God that had previous been dead in their sin? No. is he a hypocrite? yes. Wuss right back at ya
madamegrace 3 years ago
ahh so its a numbers and popularity game now is it? I don't buy it, sorry. I think Mark is slightly distorting alot of scriptures and alot of what others do, and he should not be judging them that way. Is it a joke to say things like :I just want to grab the guy by the throat and punch him in the throat"? Would jesus laugh at that? As far as anger, its not evil, but its also, not what we should focus on, Mark doesn't seem to get that.
parymich777 3 years ago
Yeah, just start burning books and paintings you fascist fucks!
Stoopare 3 years ago
How ignorant can you be, can you just accept people?
jessethecook 3 years ago
Rofl, this backstreet boy wannabee looks like he should be selling Oxyclean on TV at 3am.
Blasphy1337 3 years ago
just burn the paintings because they suck and leave it at that
reygato 3 years ago
2)
Besides, the Bible says it's ok to be angry but to let that anger go before the end of the day. The right to be angry can be taken too far and the Bible has given us guidelines on how to handle anger; the Bible says you can have it, but you can't keep it, we need to let it go so we won't fall into sin as said in Ephesians 4:26. the Bible encourages to remove our anger, not grasp onto it.
ComeLetUsReason 3 years ago
"if something horrible happens and you feel good there is something wrong with you."
There is a difference between feeling good about a bad thing and letting go a bad thing. If something bad happened to me I would not want to get angry and mad, why? Because I don't like how it feels. If a person is able to not get angry about certain things then it may mean that God has done that for them because they prefer a peaceful life.
ComeLetUsReason 3 years ago
"if something horrible happens and you feel good there is something wrong with you." this line is severely mispoken, and judgmental. Can one feel good when bad things happen? YES, its called peace that comes from God himself, what is wrong with that? We aren't oblivious to pain, but we trust in God, perhaps people like Mark need to learn this.
parymich777 3 years ago
couldn't have said it batter myself parymich
awallwii 3 years ago
@awallwii yup. i love it, they spoke wonderfully. nm i'm still trying to figure out wtf thomas kinkade has to do with rape???? im confident, aware of my surroundings, always get my own drinks, food, plus other logical precautions.a black belt, plus armed with a knife necklace, a .45 on my hip, a .38 on my thigh, and a razor on my ankle. a few ppl tried that shit with me and they ended up in a coma yrs ago that they have yet to come out of. it's such a dangerous world out there
thecolaratlady 3 months ago
parymich - have you ever been raped?
butterflye2158 3 years ago
what kind of question is that?
parymich777 3 years ago
@parymich777 Yeah really..what in sam hell does thomas kinkade have to do with rape????? plus i read your comment and your right, shitty things can and will happen in this world.i and i know that this too shall pass and it does.
I've been through more things in my 44 yrs then some ppl wouldnt see in several lifetimes, but i am happy, i dont live in the past.. the past is gone..never to happen again, i happily live for today, anticipate the future
thecolaratlady 3 months ago
@butterflye2158 da fuck does this have to do with thomas kinkade?????????
thecolaratlady 3 months ago
@thecolaratlady Look at his paintings. His paintings represent the "happiness" that many Christians always feel like their meant to wear. True Christianity has no guarantee of happiness. We face opposition and get angry. Life isn't hard because we aren't happy enough. The joy that we're encouraged with in the new testament is meant to remind us of the gifts God gives us for the remainder of our life and for the new life that is waiting in heaven. This life we live, we are at war against Satan.
InnateWhisper 1 month ago
If I had gone to a church with a preacher like this guy growing up instead of a stuffy southern baptist church I might not be agnostic today. I sat here and watched the whole video and will watch others with him unlike other preachers where I don't even start to listen cause they're all to goody two shoes bullshit.
Dixiebitch1 3 years ago
you cannot blame preachers for your decision today. You are in control of your own life, not what some preacher says or does, and if you are looking for someone to just say what makes you feel good then somethings wrong. Man fails, God doesn't fail, please remember that, and try to separate the two, God Bless
parymich777 3 years ago
How can u worship a god that would punish forever, without the purpose of discipline and redemption?
Hell is a refiners fire that won't burn out if stoked, just as the light of heaven won't go dark. Sin/ missing the mark will continue to produce bad fruit/ results in your life, throughout the ages, until one repents/ rethinks and calls out for righteousness from within and without. At which point the purifying Holy Spirit can flourish
JNdigital 3 years ago
Pastor, you may want to punch "the southern Pastor in the throat", but I guarantee you would shake his hand and smile REAL big if you ever met him in person. By the way, he has never had a message at his church entitled "Pastor Driscoll: What a such and such", give me a break...
cyriljr37 3 years ago
I know how this man feels! I get pissed off with people thinking I should act like a little sweetie pie!! It is just STUPID!! It's like saying if someone breaks into my house, I should make him a cup of tea & make him feel welcome!! It is pure stupidity!!
Thanks 4 posting this vid!!
DVD1tym 3 years ago
HAHA! Loved the analogy. God Bless ya
JoshnJesus 3 years ago