my mains in mvc3 are akuma n viper n since ive put them in am underfeated ive never lost =) my mvc3 akuma n viper are way better than ssf4 wolfkrones viper n ssf4 tokidos akuma. ive beaten them both b4 their both losers haha
Don't get me wrong Wolfkrone puts in work but when it time to fight the Grand heavyweights..... Shit be looking bad out there. Fuck all that who got the best Viper shit.. They all still get anally rape by these japanese cats SMH!!!.
@MrRafie82 how is running away playing smart with a rush down character like viper? When you run away in a match you're just letting your opponent know that he OWNS you..That bullshit tactic about playing it "smart" by "running away" doesnt work against top players. I've never seen tokido walk up fearlessly to a viper player like he did to wolfkrone. But he saw wolfkrone playing like a bitch and took full advantage. AND he got ultra 2'd cuz tokido knew ultra 1 wouldnt be necessary against him
@AlphaQSilly The way he did it, you have to do the Hyakki Goshin into kick, then crouch light punch, link it to standing heavy punch (the timing is difficult), and here comes the tough part: while you do the heavy punch, you must press the Ashura Senkuu (teleport) motion, which is front down down-front, tap all kick or punch buttons, and a frame later press up twice and all kicks to connect the Demon Armageddon.
Yes, it's very hard. But if you practice... well, it will just be... hard.
@kird16 Yes, you're right. That's my technique for trying to connect the move, but I tried to stick to the no-shortcut input, just so AlphaQSilly could get an idea of the big thing. I could have mentioned the shortcut, but I was out of space.
@Ocelotlikespie you're making it sound a little harder than it is. you have more than 1 frame to press up up 3k (which technically is impossible because it can't read 2 inputs in 1 frame). the teleport is a cancel off the hp, meaning it must be done during or before hitting an opponent (landing an attack also has a few frames of "freeze" too). also, ultras can be negative edge which gives you a small plink or double tap effect depending on how fast you let go.
@drywater I explained the move from a noobish point of view. Since you're well informed about the technical aspects of the game, thank you for mentioning that.
Now, in fact, connecting the Ultra is not that hard, no. I say, 85% of the times I have it available, I manage to combo it. But in this particular situation, you also have to consider the mental state of the players. Maybe Tokido is Tokido and can keep his cool in every tourny, but I doubt he was 100% calm when he pulled off the Ultra.
@jake7949 I must agree now that the standard S.hp -> Ashura Senkuu -> Demon Armageddon combo is not hard. It's easy, in fact. It just seemed monstrous the first time I saw it. The actual hard part is comboing into the combo.
actually the ultra 2 cancel from teleport shouldnt be done from doing the actual dp motion, there's a shortcut to it. if you guys are actually doing it from the forward downforward motion, holy shit.
@byangtrio I do it like this: s.HP - forward downforward forward KKK, up KKK. I could take advantage of the shortcut, but if I do it nice and clean like this I feel safe. Care to share with us the shortcut? The more you know, right?
its really simple. any character that has an instant move like cammy's ex instant strike or c viper's feints (its actually optional with this one)uses a tiger knee motion(this is NOT forward down downforward kick and has nothing to do with sagats tiger knee).for akuma's teleport to ultra 2 you tk motion up and simple press up forward kkk again right after. so st. fierce - roll the joystick down downforward to forward to upforward to forward kkk - upforward kkk.
@michael1791 deadliest C.Viper? You're joking right? You must've forgotten about Flash Metroid, Marn & PJS Latif...Those are the top 3 viper players in the US, but nowhere near close to Uryo's level
@TrOuBLeZ911 Well to answer the reply back you gave me I believe Wolfkrone did play it smart by now trying to rushdown Tokido because his Viper's rushdown tactics isn't strong enough to break Tokido's defense. I feel he did play it smart by retreating and using a good poke game, but hey I won't debate that anymore,
Now as far as having the best Viper. Its safe to say that Latif's Viper is the best. Period. Uryo is great, but Latif has surpassed that. Sanford's Viper is better than Marn's.
@MrRafie82 No way does Latif have a better viper than Uryo, and i doubt anyone does or ever did. The only guy that actually gave Latif a beating was Flash Metroid. Although he had to work hard for the victory at certain points, Flash just knows the mirror match a little better than Latif does. And Sanford's viper is good, but that guy just learns to play far to many characters for his own good. Which is why he will endlessly counter pick u in tourney's and still lose. him and marn are even..
@TrOuBLeZ911 None of the players that you are mentioning have Wolfkrone's tournament success. If your argument is that they're better Viper players then where are they? Flash was at this tournament. I don't see him placing 3rd. Same with Marn. It's ridiculous that people are unwilling to give Wolfkrone his due. What else does he have to do? Latif has won nothing. Marn has won... nothing. Wolfkrone has won Winter Brawl Evo Online and been top 8 at practically every major since Season Beatings.
@TheWeaponsLeft We're not talking about championships, we're talking about who has the better viper, and both Latif & Flash Metroid single handedly destroyed wolfkrone. I'm guessing you havent seen the matches so go FIND them. Especially the ones against Latif. And find the one where Flash was bussin his ass and stole a win from flash. They were calling wolfkrone the hamburglar of SSF4! He was a suCcA point blank.
@TrOuBLeZ911 Those matches dont prove at all who has the better viper noob, it just shows they know better that matchup. The overall results against all the cast is the prove of who has the better viper. And right know the momentum is in Wolf favor due to his results in recent tournaments. Mirror matches dont prove anything.
@TrOuBLeZ911 Those matches dont prove at all who has the better viper noob, it just shows they know better that matchup. The overall results against all the cast is the prove of who has the better viper. And right know the momentum is in Wolf favor due to his results in recent tournaments. Mirror matches dont prove anything.
@Ilir7777 Do you mean lagging when he jumps in with a move and then theirs a little delay inbetween his follow up moves? if thats what you're referring to as "lag" its not lag, he's just option-selecting wolfkrone's backdashes, so his follow up moves take a split second to....well....follow up lol
oh no no thought he was gonna cry
hallucinatedtwice 1 month ago
colonial akuma is so strong
neonvega 3 months ago
my mains in mvc3 are akuma n viper n since ive put them in am underfeated ive never lost =) my mvc3 akuma n viper are way better than ssf4 wolfkrones viper n ssf4 tokidos akuma. ive beaten them both b4 their both losers haha
wwedeadman85 5 months ago
Don't get me wrong Wolfkrone puts in work but when it time to fight the Grand heavyweights..... Shit be looking bad out there. Fuck all that who got the best Viper shit.. They all still get anally rape by these japanese cats SMH!!!.
SDSOverfiend 5 months ago
Tokido is my new favourite fighter. What a beast.
XxGonixXFAN 7 months ago
Akewma baby!
Matt0I0Attack 1 year ago
1:46 "yeah dude yeah im interest-OH OHHHH WHATT"
s0bek 1 year ago
OMG THIS Is my first time to see ultra 2 comboed!!! HOLY FUCK! TOKIDO you mind fuckedme again!!!
sparty007 1 year ago
Wolfkrone playing like a little bitch.
ShihnaFujibayashi 1 year ago
@ShihnaFujibayashi What did you expect him to do?! Be flashy against the top Akuma player on the planet? He played smart.
MrRafie82 1 year ago
@MrRafie82 how is running away playing smart with a rush down character like viper? When you run away in a match you're just letting your opponent know that he OWNS you..That bullshit tactic about playing it "smart" by "running away" doesnt work against top players. I've never seen tokido walk up fearlessly to a viper player like he did to wolfkrone. But he saw wolfkrone playing like a bitch and took full advantage. AND he got ultra 2'd cuz tokido knew ultra 1 wouldnt be necessary against him
TrOuBLeZ911 1 year ago
@ShihnaFujibayashi he was never that good to me anyway
JuriQOA 1 year ago
Hell yeah!!
kryptonkandor 1 year ago
soooo godlike
Nekissuzz 1 year ago
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Nekissuzz 1 year ago
I was so hype when Tokido's ultra landed but it was not a kill.
XNDL44 1 year ago
sick confirm into u2!
RaymondLau123 1 year ago
I know a match with WolfKrone in it will be entertaining.
FightersMixHD 1 year ago
is it difficult to combo into that ultra?
AlphaQSilly 1 year ago
@AlphaQSilly The way he did it, you have to do the Hyakki Goshin into kick, then crouch light punch, link it to standing heavy punch (the timing is difficult), and here comes the tough part: while you do the heavy punch, you must press the Ashura Senkuu (teleport) motion, which is front down down-front, tap all kick or punch buttons, and a frame later press up twice and all kicks to connect the Demon Armageddon.
Yes, it's very hard. But if you practice... well, it will just be... hard.
Ocelotlikespie 1 year ago 26
@Ocelotlikespie technically you can tiger knee the teleport, which would mean you only have to input 1 up motion
kird16 1 year ago
@kird16 Yes, you're right. That's my technique for trying to connect the move, but I tried to stick to the no-shortcut input, just so AlphaQSilly could get an idea of the big thing. I could have mentioned the shortcut, but I was out of space.
Ocelotlikespie 1 year ago
@Ocelotlikespie the username ocelotlikespy wasn't taken
xRisingForcex 11 months ago
@xRisingForcex What do you mean by that?
Ocelotlikespie 11 months ago
@Ocelotlikespie you're making it sound a little harder than it is. you have more than 1 frame to press up up 3k (which technically is impossible because it can't read 2 inputs in 1 frame). the teleport is a cancel off the hp, meaning it must be done during or before hitting an opponent (landing an attack also has a few frames of "freeze" too). also, ultras can be negative edge which gives you a small plink or double tap effect depending on how fast you let go.
drywater 8 months ago
@drywater I explained the move from a noobish point of view. Since you're well informed about the technical aspects of the game, thank you for mentioning that.
Now, in fact, connecting the Ultra is not that hard, no. I say, 85% of the times I have it available, I manage to combo it. But in this particular situation, you also have to consider the mental state of the players. Maybe Tokido is Tokido and can keep his cool in every tourny, but I doubt he was 100% calm when he pulled off the Ultra.
Ocelotlikespie 8 months ago
@Ocelotlikespie yeah i practiced and i can do it now to. not trying to bag or anything but all im saying is that its not that hard for me...
jake7949 7 months ago
@jake7949 I must agree now that the standard S.hp -> Ashura Senkuu -> Demon Armageddon combo is not hard. It's easy, in fact. It just seemed monstrous the first time I saw it. The actual hard part is comboing into the combo.
Ocelotlikespie 7 months ago
@Ocelotlikespie
actually the ultra 2 cancel from teleport shouldnt be done from doing the actual dp motion, there's a shortcut to it. if you guys are actually doing it from the forward downforward motion, holy shit.
byangtrio 3 months ago
@byangtrio I do it like this: s.HP - forward downforward forward KKK, up KKK. I could take advantage of the shortcut, but if I do it nice and clean like this I feel safe. Care to share with us the shortcut? The more you know, right?
Ocelotlikespie 3 months ago
@Ocelotlikespie
its really simple. any character that has an instant move like cammy's ex instant strike or c viper's feints (its actually optional with this one)uses a tiger knee motion(this is NOT forward down downforward kick and has nothing to do with sagats tiger knee).for akuma's teleport to ultra 2 you tk motion up and simple press up forward kkk again right after. so st. fierce - roll the joystick down downforward to forward to upforward to forward kkk - upforward kkk.
byangtrio 3 months ago
This was a sick match, I was on the edge of my seat. Tokido is a beast!
JoDan183 1 year ago
I can't believe Tokido used Ultra 2 in a proper match. Respect.
mickdo8640 1 year ago 26
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@mickdo8640 "I can't believe Tokido used Ultra 2 in a proper match. Respect."
WTF? It's always U2 against viper, because it's harder to put the first one. That's it....I thought everybody knew that :/
Ilir7777 1 year ago
Lol, Tokido is more like TrollFace, spoiling the ssf4 tournament for the americans :P
Good stuff.
Lingiard 1 year ago
Damn Tokido is wild
Vegito927 1 year ago
even though he lost, wolfkrone has the deadliest c viper ive ever seen played. hes so good
michael1791 1 year ago
@michael1791 watch PJS Latif he has and amazing viper
darknessredefine 1 year ago
@michael1791 lol have you seen latif?
semiballpenman 1 year ago
@semiballpenman apparently not LoL, or flash metroids and marn either LoL
TrOuBLeZ911 1 year ago
@michael1791 deadliest C.Viper? You're joking right? You must've forgotten about Flash Metroid, Marn & PJS Latif...Those are the top 3 viper players in the US, but nowhere near close to Uryo's level
TrOuBLeZ911 1 year ago
@TrOuBLeZ911 Well to answer the reply back you gave me I believe Wolfkrone did play it smart by now trying to rushdown Tokido because his Viper's rushdown tactics isn't strong enough to break Tokido's defense. I feel he did play it smart by retreating and using a good poke game, but hey I won't debate that anymore,
Now as far as having the best Viper. Its safe to say that Latif's Viper is the best. Period. Uryo is great, but Latif has surpassed that. Sanford's Viper is better than Marn's.
MrRafie82 1 year ago
@MrRafie82 No way does Latif have a better viper than Uryo, and i doubt anyone does or ever did. The only guy that actually gave Latif a beating was Flash Metroid. Although he had to work hard for the victory at certain points, Flash just knows the mirror match a little better than Latif does. And Sanford's viper is good, but that guy just learns to play far to many characters for his own good. Which is why he will endlessly counter pick u in tourney's and still lose. him and marn are even..
TrOuBLeZ911 1 year ago
@TrOuBLeZ911 None of the players that you are mentioning have Wolfkrone's tournament success. If your argument is that they're better Viper players then where are they? Flash was at this tournament. I don't see him placing 3rd. Same with Marn. It's ridiculous that people are unwilling to give Wolfkrone his due. What else does he have to do? Latif has won nothing. Marn has won... nothing. Wolfkrone has won Winter Brawl Evo Online and been top 8 at practically every major since Season Beatings.
TheWeaponsLeft 1 year ago
@TheWeaponsLeft We're not talking about championships, we're talking about who has the better viper, and both Latif & Flash Metroid single handedly destroyed wolfkrone. I'm guessing you havent seen the matches so go FIND them. Especially the ones against Latif. And find the one where Flash was bussin his ass and stole a win from flash. They were calling wolfkrone the hamburglar of SSF4! He was a suCcA point blank.
TrOuBLeZ911 1 year ago
@TrOuBLeZ911 Those matches dont prove at all who has the better viper noob, it just shows they know better that matchup. The overall results against all the cast is the prove of who has the better viper. And right know the momentum is in Wolf favor due to his results in recent tournaments. Mirror matches dont prove anything.
Jprez3 11 months ago 2
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@TrOuBLeZ911 Those matches dont prove at all who has the better viper noob, it just shows they know better that matchup. The overall results against all the cast is the prove of who has the better viper. And right know the momentum is in Wolf favor due to his results in recent tournaments. Mirror matches dont prove anything.
Jprez3 11 months ago
1:10 - 1:15 lol @ Phil's "Oh no! NO!"
Uninserious 1 year ago
was tokido lagging?
Ilir7777 1 year ago
@Ilir7777 Do you mean lagging when he jumps in with a move and then theirs a little delay inbetween his follow up moves? if thats what you're referring to as "lag" its not lag, he's just option-selecting wolfkrone's backdashes, so his follow up moves take a split second to....well....follow up lol
TrOuBLeZ911 1 year ago
@TrOuBLeZ911 that was ment to be ironic :/... I know there is no lag with tokido LOL
Ilir7777 1 year ago
@Ilir7777 LoL
TrOuBLeZ911 1 year ago
Damn that Ultra did almost no damage >.<'
M1Punk 1 year ago
240p FOR THE WIN!
mathew19721 1 year ago
@mathew19721 More like "for teh loose"... Why would you watch in bad quality? Just to be first probably.
r0ck3t1337 1 year ago
@r0ck3t1337 you spelled lose wrong.
SonofGenkai18 1 year ago
@SonofGenkai18 I have a very shitty keyboard and sometimes it puts two letters instead of one.
r0ck3t1337 1 year ago
@r0ck3t1337 Stop talking shit. You thought that was how you spelt lose. Now you know better, admit it.
Shitty keyboard my ass.
TONYLOVESU 1 year ago
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@TONYLOVESU Why are you so mad?
r0ck3t1337 1 year ago
@TONYLOVESU Lol what's wrong with you? some kind of anger issues?
RagnaroekChaos 1 year ago
@SonofGenkai18 On purpose.
Cortez7 1 year ago