Ron Paul Speaking the Raw Truth

[writercramp]

We need to get Ron Paul speaking at every major campus in America! All you students, help make it happen.

[knight552]

Ron Paul is consistently awesome!

[RevoluionOmni]

What I want most Americans to know is, if America falls, it falls because of us! Either because we didn't do enough, or we let the elites run our country into the ground. It's up to us who live here, to take care of our country, not just politicians. Too many people have become apathetic and I hope that continues to change.

Ron Paul in 08.

[oldhacks]

when you say "didnt do enough" I want to scream. All you have to do is enact the national initiative and then we as citizens can force our government to represent US instead of the corporations that paid for their election. Its that fucking simple!

national initiative 08!

[owensaruba]

The Civil war was about destroying states rights and creating a new class of citizenship that would eventually bring all people of the states under federal jurisdiction.

You are a 14th Amendment US Citizen! Regardless of your race, don't even dare to think you are as free as white males were prior to the 14th! We are ALL something lesser!

[oldhacks]

Ron Paul wants to dissolve the Union. I hope you realize that.

[chronicremorse]

You're an alarmist. I hope you realize that.

[oldhacks]

what is Ron Pauls mantra? "Let the states decide" "states rights". what was the civil war about?

end of discussion fucktard.

[wsmith68]

No, he does not. That is a plain lie. He wants all federal domination curtailed.

[oldhacks]

YES. HE. DOES! He wants to completely abolish all of our federal institutions and deminish the size of our federal government to nothing but the pentagon and the federal reserve. No schools, no hospitals, no new energy policies, No nothing. Just wants to sit on his hands and close his eyes to the crisis we face. He wont even admit that its because of Americans addiction to oil that is causing these wars. He just says "cut taxes" and everyone flocks to him.

[oldhacks]

luckily he stands about as well a chance at being elected president as I do. but just thought you guys should know exactly what it is you're supporting. basically the corrosion of our nation into 50 countries instead of one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all!

[chronicremorse]

he has no chance? is that why you're trolling videos trying to persuade people not to vote for him? you're either an imbecile, or a slimy stooge, which is it?

[oldhacks]

I'm a fucking patriotic American trying to stir things up. And its really funny hearing a Ron Paul follower preach to me about trolling considering you guys are the most despicable trollers there are on the net. You resort to name calling cuz you know I'd tear you to sgreds if you actually tried to debate me.

[oldhacks]

*shreds

[chronicremorse]

yep. you're an imbecile.

[oldhacks]

you got nothing. Just a bunch of empty words. stand up for yourself.

[radiofriendly]

He has stated many times that these unconstitutional wars have been about oil. Consider the point that Ron makes about monetary policy. We have no money---we are in debt. Ron stands against corporate fascism. You might disagree with parts of his message but you need to understand that he is the only viable peace candidate. We need to unite.

[oldhacks]

alright you want to start some shit?

"only viable candidate". Why is that excuse enough for you to avoid taking responsibility for your own country by enacting the national initiative? He says it's about oil but thats where he stops. He doesn't say it's because of Americans lousy consumerism. He never tells us its our fault. Its always the governments fault. and if its about oil then whats his plan to create sustainable energy?

[oldhacks]

"Let the markets decide" well "the markets" are what started this war so we'll just end up impoverished or in more wars. no solution. Just a lot of grand standing and dramatic talk about the problem. We all know the problem whats Rons solution? cut spending? how is cutting spending and lowering taxes going to create energy?

[oldhacks]

and he admits that we're falling under a corporate fascism. and his solution is LESS regulation? please explain to me how THAT works??? Let the states decide? well the state officials are bound to the special interests (markets) in their district that pay for their elections so that wont work either. Let the Chevron come up with an energy solution? yea Texaco and chevrons solution was to invade Iraq!

[AngriestAmerican]

Yes LESS,,,I read an article, about a business man who wanted to manufacture men's clothing. He went and opened up a factory in China. Why? It wasn't paying help or cheap labor.

It would have taken 5 years in America with all the regulations to build, permit and organize. It only took 8 weeks in China.

Regulation by goverment favors BIG business. Plain and simple. They want the small business out of business through regualtion taxation. Like $15,000 just for a buidling permit,,,,

[oldhacks]

so we should lower our standards to China's standards? I hope thats not what you're saying..Sounds like that guy just didn't want to follow the rules and wanted to exploit China's deplorable standards so he could turn a quick profit at the expense of his own country. But you go ahead and think that China's better then us. While they're in a rush to turn their entire country into an industrial wasteland.. Any of you other fuckers wanna try and take a shot at me.

[wsmith68]

NO. HE. DOES'NT!He wants to completely abolish all of our federal institutions and deminish the size of our federal government to nothing but the pentagon and the federal reserve. All the schools (they are supported by State's taxes) All the hospitals (they are corporate, university, non-profits, charitable foundations) The DOE has sat on its ass and supported oil.

[oldhacks]

you fuckers marked what I said as spam??? just goes to show how weak minded you are. cant handle even the slightest bit of truth not to mention your inability to have a conscious debate.

[Nillok]

Who's the weak minded one, the one who resorts to cussing and name-calling rhetoric or those who are working together to change the country? Since when did respectful debates resort to name calling?

[oldhacks]

I cus to emphasize how passionately I feel about this. Not because I lack any integrity or ability to speak.

and marking everything I say as Spam and thumbing it down is not a sign of respect.

[Nillok]

Oh, we respect you, we are just emphasizing how passionately we feel about you.

[oldhacks]

what about a national initiatuve ron paul where we could run our own lives at the federal level?

Gravel is more of a libertarian then Paul is.

[radiofriendly]

Direct democracy doesn't protect the minority - that's why we are not a democracy but a republic. The Rule of Law, not the rule of men.

[oldhacks]

so you admit that you prefer to live under a republican dictatorship then a democracy because you don't trust the majority of Americans to make good decisions? How patriotic of you. And it would certainly protect minorities because it would give all the minorities in this country the chance to unify and cohesively act to preserve their liberty! "Let the states decide" as Paul says Certainly doesn't protect minorities. Look at Colorado where its legal to fire someone for being gay.

[oldhacks]

If we had a national ballot to impeach Cheney America would pass that in a flash and then congress would have to address it by law. Then because its backed by the majority of Americans congress will be afraid to vote against it because it'll be obvious that it's what America wants. What it will do is force our elected representatives to actually represent us. instead of the special interest groups that paid for their election

[NewKreature517]

We are a Republican government - not a dictatorship (we are moving that direction though, as you know, with the philosophies of both Clinton and Bush) - the executive should only enforce the laws not create them and start wars as Clinton and Bush have. Rule of Law - not he rule of men - it really is the way toward peace.

[oldhacks]

its either a democracy or a dictatorship. Its that simple. One or the other. Thats all there is when considering human governance. Stop lying to yourself and the rest of us and either admit you enjoy living under a dictatorship (whether they be elected dictators or not) Or enact the national initiative and lets work together to address the issues that we feel most directly effect our Lives as citizens With our elected representatives

[wsmith68]

Who owns the job? Employer or employee?

[oldhacks]

the consumer of the product being manufactured.

[wsmith68]

Bullshit. When a labor union bankrupts an auto manutacterer, does that corp sue consumers? No, they borrow $1 billion from the treasury, like Chrysler. Then they marry for money (Daimler-Chrysler). Then their wealthy wife divorces them for 16¢ on the dollar and sprints back to Germany, saying "Danke Gott. Kein mehr, bitte!"

[oldhacks]

do you not understand the simple concept of "supply and demand"?

[oldhacks]

the consumer of the product being manufactured.

[gravelin08]

States rights is a tactic by the far right to take this country backwards to obtain their objectives. It's like term limits without public campaign financing. The monied interests are then able to finance their rotating candidates into office more easily than can ordinary people who don't have as much free speech power (money). That's another reason we need to be lawmakers and represent ourselves. Yes to Gravel's National Initiative.

[audiohhh]

the candidates on the left take just as much money from special interest as the right. dont make this a left right issue.

[NewKreature517]

I wish this thumbs up/down thing wouldn't hide your comments - understand I'm not trying to attack you. As you probably know, the founders of our country did not believe in democracy - they called it mob rule. Now they weren't perfect but they have a point if you think about it.

[gravelin08]

I for one am in favor of the minority that has help power for too long being put out of power. They are a danger to the majority and to the peoples of the rest of the world. I want the majority of people to determine their future not a few men who have made an almost TOTAL MESS OF IT! Laws are made by people not by laws. Let the people make laws. Yes to National Initiative.

[oldhacks]

they only disagree with MOB Rule when its NOT THEIR MOB! Bunch of cop outs that don't trust their own country. How patriotic. and its not really mob rule when you consider the rich diversity that America exhibits. You'll notice that none of them out right admit that they prefer living under a dictatorship. They always say the same thing "the founders said this" "the founders said that" yea and the founders had SLAVES! do you want SLAVES? The founders said it was OK to have slaves.

[Nillok]

Actually, some founders did not like slaves. But they accepted the constitution, even though it wasn't perfect. And there was a constitutional amendment to ban slavery.

Also, you have no clue what libertarianism is if you think Gravel is more of a libertarian.

[oldhacks]

well the root word of libertarian is "liberty" and he's written the national initiative which gives us more liberty then we ever thought possible. So in essence he is far more libertarian then Paul. Paul's for even bigger government then we have now you just don't realize it. If we wiped out all of our social standards we would end up living under corporate fascism which is what Ron Paul is actually fighting for. Get rid of big government by unleashing big business on us? oh how liberating...

[chronicremorse]

You lack integrity. Nothing you say is true, some of what you say is akin to Jabberwocky. Unleashing big business? Our government currently subsidizes big business. Are you unaware of this? Our current system has already unleashed big business on us. Are you blind? Ron Paul has argued on the floor of congress against such practices. Are you stupid or a liar?

[lorax2014]

Although few people realize it, the main enabler of big and monopolistic corporations is easy loan money. Thomas Jefferson predicted 200 years ago that if we ever had loose money policy the banks AND corporations would rule us. Ron Paul is the main candidate pushing to reform fractional reserve banking and thus take away the unfair advantage which corporations have.

[oldhacks]

main candidate for what? congress? yea he'll have a lot of power being one out of 500 members of congress. he'll be able to give a speech once in awhile. that really justifies him getting 30,000,000 dollars in his pocket...

why not fight for a national initiative to change the money policy?

[oldhacks]

if you're against citizens having the right to vote on the issues rather then just electing representatives to address the issues for us then you are clearly saying that you prefer to live under elected republican dictators over a free democratic society. I just want to hear you admit it out right.

[Nillok]

That's now how America was created. This is not a pure democracy, this is a Representative Republic.

[oldhacks]

representative republic - like how Musharraf represents Pakistan? Does Bush represent your ideals or dictate to you what he wants to do?

just admit that representative government is a dictatorship. Why is it so hard for you to admit that?

[Nillok]

Because it's not. Musharraf is a dictator, he was never elected. He has support of 8% of the people. Learn history before you spew random crap.

Now Bush also has too much power, and that's because the people are apathetic and careless. Even concerned citizens like yourself are uneducated on what the President and Congress have the ability to do, you think a Rep. Republic and yet you don't even know what it is.

[oldhacks]

do you get a say in how our government spends our taxes? or do they "DICTATE" to you how they're going to spend it?

just admit it. representative government is code for elected dictators. its so simple.

[oldhacks]

Bush was never elected either. Both U.S. elections were chalked full of voter redistricting and electronic voting scams.

[oldhacks]

yes its a representative republic and thats the problem. Human behavior dictates that we are all here looking out for our own self interest. So people get elected, first they're bound to their party's public perception, then they're bound to the people that payed for their election, then they're bound to their states councils. By the time they try to represent you their hands are tied.

[Nillok]

So, to challenge this, you break down a candidate who doesn't do such things simply because he is not Gravel?

[oldhacks]

I'm challenging you to think. and to admit the truth.

[Nillok]

There is one truth, and it is your truth? What is truth?

[oldhacks]

there's one reality yes. when we have no say in how our government works that is by definition a dictatorship. You just dont want to admit it because of the bad connotations that come with the word dictatorship.if you admitted that much then youd rethink your ideals of whether youd rather live in a democracy by enacting the national initiative. but then again maybe you prefer living in a dictatorship cuz you dont trust that your country can make good decisions when left to its own devices..

[shanklinmike]

Our founding fathers would be proud, GO AMERICA, GO RON PAUL!

[Nillok]

I LOVE HIM!

am I gay?

nah, it's just a mancrush.

[oldhacks]

hope you dont live in colorado. Youd be fired for saying you like men. there's some "states rights" for you. dumb asses

[Nillok]

You Gravel supporters are awfully upset about Ron Paul getting the attention. This is the second negative comment on him today.

[oldhacks]

yea cuz it's bullshit. You guys want Ron Paul to be Americas Musharraf. What I'm telling you is we can free ourselves from the dictatorship that IS representative government and work together as citizens to address the issues instead of just electing dictators to do the job for us.

[Nillok]

First of all, Ron Paul wouldn't be a dictator. He's the only one running (maybe Gravel?) who realizes the President doesn't have the authority to do half the crap the President's do now. He does have a very good power though: Stop the wars, stop future wars, stop the American Empire.

But no, let's ignore those attributes. You want Gravel to win, because somehow the President will have the power to put in the national initiative. Talk about dictators.

[oldhacks]

No one can enact the national initiative except for us. Mike Gravel can't do it alone. and congress will NEVER do it cuz it dilutes their power. So I'll excuse you for not knowing this detail but now you know that it's up to YOU and ME and anyone else who reads this to enact the national initiative. It is the ONLY way we will ever see any real fundamental change. Ron Paul does not trust America with the right to vote on the issues that effect our lives. What does that tell you about him?

[Nillok]

That he believes in the original intent of the Constitutional Republic and if you want to have the National Initiative you will have to have the states Amend it.

Oh, and if the government becomes too tyrannical it's the citizens duty to overthrow and start anew. But ah, I'd rather have a peaceful revolution atm.

[guigoft]

wow

[yuhoo7]

excellent