Qu'ran: wonderful things in heaven - but 72 virgins? DEBATE

[Daveyboyroy]

How anyone in their right mind can follow Islam and hold the character of Muhammad up as being the greatest ever example is beyond me. Even MUSLIMS believe that Jesus was perfect, yet they hold Muhammad in greater regard. The only reason so many Muslims still exist is because of the massive birth rates in Islamic culture and the fear and shame of apostasy in Islamic theocracies, societies and families. Islam is eroding away and I for one am glad.

[seanZramone]

Muhammad was  a false prophet, a lair, a war mongering pediofile who spread hate and Intolerance, Islam is a wicked cult of hate ( not a religion ) It's followers belive in a book crammed full of words stolen from the Jews and Christians

[alinepoirot]

i guess allah were talking abt goats....

[alinepoirot]

hahahhahah

maybe they are bi....

[RDELAPLAZA]

What the fuck with the sound.. you don't let us to hear what the other guy is saying...

[jaminbjamin]

Christian Prince u r wonderful,u should make clear speech and put it you tube

[argonium79]

how stupid he acts or is he really that dumb? even my dog understand allready what the muslim is trying to explain

[123dsj123]

@argonium79 Islam is a religion built on falsehoods. In the days of Muhammad, a sign of inferiority was to beget daughters and not sons. The Arab pagans had accused Allah of inferiority. In order to show Allah’s superiority, the angel asked a question with damaging implication. Q. 52:39 reads, “Has he (Allah) only daughters and ye (Arabs have) sons?” The question demands a ‘Yes’ or ‘No” answer — either one damages Islam. Yes—Allah begets, or No—Arabs do not beget sons.

[argonium79]

@123dsj123 whut? Quote: 52:39 is addressed specifically to the pagan contemporaries of the Prophet, implying that "you not only blaspheme by ascribing progeny to God, but you intensify your blasphemy by ascribing to Him something that you yourselves despise, i.e., female offspring"

[argonium79]

@123dsj123 Arabs worshipped Al-Uzzá, a goddess, the daughter of god. worshipping the daughter of god while saying having a daughter is not that good is kinda blasphemy, no?

[123dsj123]

@argonium79 Adam is never given the title “Spirit from Allah”, but rather “Spirit of Allah”, and for good reason. Adam did not predate his human existence. In order to be called “A Spirit from…”one must have existed somewhere else or predate his current existence. The Angel Gabriel is called “Spirit from Allah”, because he existed in Allah’s presence prior to becoming human in Muhammad’s presence. Q. 4:171 called Jesus “Spirit from Allah” yet Muslims deny His prior existence. Why?

[argonium79]

@123dsj123 why make it such complicated, it is simple:

Bible Colossians 1:17 "He himself was before all things. And he holds all things together."

Quran 13:16 [...] Say, "GOD is the Creator of all things, and He is the One, the Supreme."

[123dsj123]

@argonium79 You quoted Quran 5:116: "The God will say: 'Jesus, son of Mary, did you ever say to mankind 'Worship me and my mother as gods besides God?’” You would think if there is a thing as Allah, he would accuse Christian justly. Who told him the Holy Trinity is Allah, Jesus and Mary? Was he not there at the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D. listening to Christians say the Holy Trinity is Father, Son, and Spirit? It seems Allah, Muhammad, and his angel are one and the same.

[argonium79]

@123dsj123 VATICAN CITY, MAY 7, 1997 (VIS) At the moment that Jesus entrusts his mother to St. John, "it is possible to understand the authentic meaning of Marian worship in the ecclesial community ... which furthermore is based on the will of Christ." "The words 'Behold your mother'," continued the Holy Father, "express Jesus's intention to awaken in his disciples an attitude of love and trust toward Mary, leading them to recognize in her their mother, the mother of all believers.

[123dsj123]

@argonium79 You quoted VATICAN CITY, MAY 7, 1997 (VIS). That is about 15 years ago. Is that what Allah was looking forward to when he, in the 7th century A.D, said the Holy Trinity is Himself, Jesus, and Mary?

[argonium79]

@123dsj123 that surah doesnt seem to address the trinity but the worship of mary

[123dsj123]

@argonium79 You wrote: “that surah doesnt seem to address the trinity but the worship of mary” Quran 5:116: "The God will say: 'Jesus, son of Mary, did you ever say to mankind 'Worship me and my mother as gods besides God?’” As sure as it can, the Quran does address the Trinity in Q. 5:116. Both Muhammad and Allah learned their so-called Christianity from neighboring Christians and Jews.

[argonium79]

@123dsj123 4:171 "People of the Book, do not go to excess in your religion, and do not say anything about God except the truth: the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was nothing more than a messenger of God, His word, directed to Mary, a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers and do not speak of a 'Trinity'—stop, that is better for you—God is only one God, He is far above having a son, everything in the heavens and earth belongs to Him and He is the best one to trust"

[argonium79]

@123dsj123 4:171 is speaking about the trinity. "Son of Mary" is a title which is allways mentioned when jesus was mentioned

[123dsj123]

@argonium79 How interesting! You sent me Quran 4:171. It is the one and only Quran verse that perfectly explains the Trinity for Muslims. It tells us that the one Man called Jesus is (1) Messenger of Allah, (2) Word of Allah, and (3) Spirit from Allah. In that sense, Allah reveals one Man in three different roles in the same way God reveals Himself in three different roles. One God is (1) a Father, (2) a Son, and (3) a Spirit.

[probokator]

You are debate with maybe moslem which don't have to much knowledge on Islam. The answer is yes. God give us 72 women in heaven for have sex. What is wrong with that? Heaven is place of pleasure for the reward. But you must also know that the 72 virgin IS NOT women who ever live in earth. They are creature God created for that purpose.

[sasaguan125]

Yes, He will. And we will have sex with them!

[kambridge967]

It may not be mentioned in the bible. Because age diffrences was not of importance like it is now in the present time. But it also does not mention in the bible that its wrong to marry young girls. And i said yall non muslims say islam is an evil religion just because muhummad married 9 year old aiyisha. So yall base a whole religion on just one act that is not acceptable in todays society.

[hannahr77]

kam

So in your humble opinion age was not important and that of course makes you an expert in the Bible, and we do not base islam on aiasha, we base it on whats been done in the name of ill-allah, thats what and of course we know how to read and are allowed to do so by ourselves

[MUHAMMADFUCKEDKIDS]

ISLAM JUST GOT AN ASS KICKING!

[hannahr77]

muh

yes AMEN and may it be so forever

[gooldie888]

MUSLIM GUY GOT SKUNK BY CP.

[ahus77]

You're an insecure son of a bitch. Why would Muhammad preach Moses' great story, then affirm that Jesus was indeed of immaculate birth to his own people when he nothing to gain from it? If anything it got him tortured and almost killed several times. If you actually knew anything about this period in time and the real history and Islam, then you would know that your comments are a pile of ignorant crap. Do yourself a favour and talk about things you actually know about.

[hannahr77]

ahus

muhammad had learned the story from a Christian, and read the story abt the stone running away with the clothes of Moses is really hilarious

[arod85]

Muslim guy got owned. Quran is an anthology of Muhammad's lies. Islam serves to legalize child rape, killing of non-muslims, violence against women (Muhammad instructed husbands to beat up wives)...who in the right mind would take that guy's words seriously? Muhammad was a fucking pussy. Insecure son of a bitch.

[kambridge967]

It was normal in the biblical time for men to marry young girls you are just limiting it to islam. You non muslims base a whole religion on older man marrying a younger girl.

[hannahr77]

kam

hmm so according to you it was the norm to marry young girls in the biblical times could you point to where it say so in the Bible, and we base our religion on what now plz explain, thanks