So many nonsense comments. Doesn't matter who is supposed to be the best for this area......I will never forget his live performance that I had the pleasure to attend several years ago. He is one of the few who has the capability to capture instantly the attention of the whole audience......like only a few select others. Voice analysis is not everything.....stage presence is!
I love Carreras, beautiful voice, and he should be compared to De Stefano. This is a poor performance. One contributor has already mentioned the contradiction of the aria, it is written for a lyric tenor, but requires something of a spinto tenor to carry it off. Del Monaco is too loud, too dramatic... Bjorling came closest in his early years. Corelli in modern times...
Jose preforms like a dream here. One of my favorite Calafs.
To be honest, the role of Calaf was created by Miguel Fleta, a lyric tenor.
Who are we to truly say how Calaf is supposed to sound? Are our opinions directly steaming from Puccini's imagination in his final days? Do the dramatic voices of Corelli, Mario Del Monaco or Domingo truly express this nameless prince's innermost, hidden desires?
@MrsDepp2, the order you say P, D, C, is perhaps the correct. And perhaps, these 3 tenors are 3 of the best in history, surely¡ Into the top ten no doubt¡
@JerryJimmson, well, well¡ Don't running¡ Stop¡ Te puede gustar o no PD o JC, pero mucho mejores que ellos?, un poco mejor quizas alguno, pero no MUCHO mejor. Y mejor que Pavarotti en el Nessun? Corelli y MDM eran espectaculares, pero no mejores que Pavarotti, dejemosles en empate, por no ser comparables en estilo ni timbre ni clase de tenor. Pero Pavarotti en el Nessun era otra cosa.
Carreras is a light lyrical tenor, Turandot requires a spinto or dramatic tenor. In order for Carreras to display a bigger voice he uses muscular strength to push/force the sound up past his vocal chords. Over the long-term (it took only 5 years in his case) this causes permanent damage with subsequent vocal deterioration. To sing correctly one must sing down and into the centre of the body, this is the essence of Bel Canto.
Neither just a student of Bel Canto. Anyone who has studied Bel Canto will easily recognise the pushed and forced sound Carreras is using. What is your singing school?
um.. i'm recognizing just a Great voice here, not pushed or forced, not simply "light and lyrical" indeed, i suppose him to be lyric/dramatic. and "permanent damage" you're talking about has likely (or better "probably", that is only my opinion, as well as everything written above and under) been caused by his longstanding illness which he had successfully won through. i'm fond of his early years and roles, regretfully he is not able to sound as huge as he had to.
What is your singing school? Carreras, like De Stefano before him, used muscular strength to make his voice sound 'bigger' both were not satisfied with what nature had given them hence the need to push.
Carreras was a light lyrical tenor there is no such thing as a lyrical/dramatic tenor. His voice was in decline from the early eighties years before the onset of his illness.
I know the difference between being a "Fan" or being a "Fanatic", and reading messages of people calling others: "Deaf, Crazy, Lack-of-brains" and so on, just because "maybe" it was the way Jose performed this piece, took them to go for the "Dislike" button, but even though, I love Jose as a talented artist that he is, I did not like his execution of this particular piece!
No voy a discutir su calidad que la tuvo pero aquí está fuora di ruolo, aprieta en exceso la voz, hay muchos forzamientos y el agudo final es puro grito. Este fué una de los motivos de la prematura decadencia de su voz. Toda la emisión está en la gola, en el cuello, la zona de paso es problemática. Carreras copió los peores defectos de Di Stefano que junto a un repertorio demasiado dramático para ui voz provocó su deterioro vocal. Una pena porqué fué un tenor lírico de preciosas maneras.
@roby8791 don't worry about it, you know it's only random bursts of static that somehow registers as dislikes. or possibly, people whose lack of brain disallows them to notice great skill, hehe.
Pone mucha pasión y sinceridad. Pero para mí no es el intérprete ideal de Calaf. Le falta fuerza vocal. En las notas largas y altas...queda cortado. Sin embargo es un gran tenor.
What concerns me about so many YouTube music posts is how the comparison of artist to artist quickly becomes disagreeable, mean-spirited, and more a means of scoring points rather than (a) appreciating the art form and (b) carefully analyzing the performance/performer as seen and heard. Ideals are needed, but the intersection of the ideal with the actual is where singing comes to life as a theatrical and communicative art form. Nothing scores high in negative posts except one's blood pressure.
His upper range was superb, but the reason why Pavarotti will always own this is he could do both, the lower and the higher with a depth that most tenors don't have.
pavarotti got immensely fat, lost his voice and started singing things that wasn't meant for his voice....and for this reason he's no where near as amazing as domingo or carreras....the fame got to him and he just started to become over-rated...carreras is just beautiful and between him and domingo is a hard choice to decide, so i wont haha :)
@arodoet126 You're ridiculous and obviously have something against Pavarotti. Domingo, and Carreras are great tenors but Pavarotti just did it so effortlessly. His voice was so much more powerful than either Placido or Jose. I don't think there has been a tenor so good since Caruso.
@nicktabus1000 I'm afraid to dissapoint you. Pavarotti had the "smallest" voice among three of them, by his own words. By the way, my maestro had heard all three of them in their prime live, and despite being huge fan of Domingo, he admitted that Carreras is (was) the most gifted tenor of his generation.
My maestro has studied voice in Accademia Teatro alla Scala in 1970's, and he says that during after general rehearsal of Carreras' debut in La Scala, orchestra did a standing ovation for him.
@CamerArte Ha.Ha.Ha. The smallest voice? You're joking me right? I'm an opera singer, a tenor. I know what a big voice is. I can also assure you Pavarotti NEVER said Carreras was the "best" of his generation. Why do you think music critics, and the general public say that Pavarotti is the best? Because they're lying? Get real Carreras is good, but NO pavarotti /watch?v=RdTBml4oOZ8. No one can match that voice.
@nicktabus1000 I guess either you are not very eduated, as most americans, either you are Pav's fan.
Let me comment your answer step by step.
1. Pavarotti once told that Carreras is the last great tenor - doesn't it mean that Carreras, by other words, is the best of his generation?
2. I am not saying that Pavarotti had a small voice, but it definately was smaller, than Corelli's or Monaco's (or, in case of a lyric voice, Di Stefano's). But his tech was great, and his voice was very, hmm,
"flying", if there is English expression like that. My voice teacher (who has sung with Pavarotti in Modena in 1978) says that he hadn't a HUGE voice, but he was like a bell himselm, so that is a matter of tech.
3. I feel badly saying that modern critics as well as modern public are not really educated, what they want of a tenor are only high notes. Pav (I love his voice very much by the way) was not a great actor, and had lack of expression. Some called him "singing machine".
@nicktabus1000"flying", if there is English expression like that. My voice teacher (who has sung with Pavarotti in Modena in 1978) says that he hadn't a HUGE voice, but he was like a bell himselm, so that is a matter of tech.
3. I feel badly saying that modern critics as well as modern public are not really educated, what they want of a tenor are only high notes. Pav (I love his voice very much by the way) was not a great actor, and had lack of expression. Some called him "singing machine".
"I have no idea why you like this man. Luciano Pavarotti was much better." - Because a person of depth can be moved by more than one person at a time. Jose Carreras is a master at his craft. Personal preferences aside, respect can be had by more than one person in a craft as intricate and varied as opera. Afterall, this isn't the Yankees versus the Dodgers. Beautiful is beautiful.
As much as I love Carreras I don't think he should have sung such heavy roles on stage. His was an essentially lyric voice that was pushed into roles too big for it.
Not that I'm saying this is a bad performance, this man is one of my idols! I adore his voice, just not particularly in this role.
@TheDarthsala Penso che il termine penoso sia assolutamente fuori luogo.Calaf e' uno dei ruoli piu' difficili in assoluto nel melodramma,ma sicuramente CARRERAS ha offerto una prestazione soddisfacente.e' scontato che non si possa paragonare ad un DEL MONACO o ad un PAVAROTTI..altre vocalita'
This is so bad it's hilarious. His voice is ugly and insignificant, horrible technique especially with the difficult notes and he can't even remember the text!
@MrRoW24 Listen to the versions of Jussi Björling, Mario Del Monaco and Franco Corelli. They have different voice types(which are all great for Nessun dorma) and I can't say who is the best one but that's a matter of personal opinion.
While Franco Corelli's voice was, and shall always be the most thrilling tenor to listen to, I cannot deny the incredible beauty and sensitivity in Jose Carreras's voice. Truly melodious!
Poor performance by a tenor that never was a spinto. Everything above F# is constricted and forced. What a JOKE. I can do it better, and I am a baritone!
@Baritanist You're not a barytone, you are not a verdi barytone. You are a poor frustrated pseudo singer. With an awfull voice. I've heard your recordings but they made me laugh!
Having viewed dozens of performances of nessun dorma over the past few months I find this particular rendition to be my favorite. Del Monico and Corelli have stronger voices but this man simply performs better than anyone else.
Now just a small criticism to those who presume to express themselves in boarish and inappropriate attacks on these gifted performers. Please share what you like about their performance but remember to be polite and show respect for the ART.
@mrwebster2008 They are all gifted performers&you&I are entitled to our opininons.I think most people show respect for the art.However when artists perform arias & operas outside their repertoire,People have a tendency to become contentious.They realize that the tenor in this case is out of his repertoire.Perhaps it may be the artist thats not showing respect for the ART& it could be the mighty dollar thats motivating the artist¬ the ART.Turandot Chenier Otello command more pay than La Boheme
@sugarbist Honestamente, me gustaría escuchar críticas desde el punto de vista estrictamente musical, de interpretación de la partitura. Los "sabios" de esto nunca hablan, quizá porque no saben.
Pareciera que si uno sólo cantara papeles estrictamente "adaptados" a sus capacidades (como si los papeles hubieran sido siempre escritos con gran cuidado de no forzar las capacidades de los cantantes del tipo vocal correspondiente, lo que no es verdad) ya habría alcanzado la perfección......
@cristinatormo I agree that artists should attempt roles outside their repertoire&capabilities.Gigli Pavarotti&DiStefano were somewhat successful in doing so.I think Carrera's voice did not respond well in the more spinto roles.Each artist has their own interpretation of a role&if they just adhered strickly to the musical score as most studio recordings do,that would be boring&methodical.The B-natural in Nessun Dorma would only be touched¬ held.I prefer live performances over studio.continue
@cristinatormoThere is always a sense of excitement in the air in a LIVEperformance.DelMonaco'sCallas Aida from Mexico was great.They both took liberties with the music as did Lauri Volpi in his live performances&Corelli's as well,Interpolating D-flat in Poliuto& filatura in E Lucevan LeStelle.I believe the musical interpretation of the score is extremely important as per the Composer's wishes but I look at as a wonderful guide to perhaps take some liberties, so we can have exciting performances
@sugarbist Por supuesto que la música en directo es más "emocionante". pero usted debiera saber, ya que como profesional se nos presenta, que yo no lo soy, porqué esta versión en directo, manteniendo o no el último agudo, es con mucho, más interesante que otras versiones donde los límites vocales y técnicos son menos evidentes.
Dónde reside, desde un punto de vista técnico, el secreto de la capacidad para comunicar la situación y hasta el misticismo de este momento mágico en Turandot.
@cristinatormo I agree that the last high note is not as important than the text of the aria.However, I was trying to make a point that adhering strickly to the score is just not enough.Antonio Cortis Is my favorite Spanish Tenor. He sings this aria beautifully& only touches the B natural.But his interpretation is flawless.
@sugarbist Porque la verdadera emoción artística, no lo que llaman "versiones apasionadas" y otras milongas, proviene de dos ámbitos, de la interpretación, musical y teatral, y para llevarla a efecto, disponer de los recursos vocales adecuados. Si para uno el legato es una tortura.....pues tendrá limitaciones, que serán poco evidentes para mucha gente, porque se alcanzan los agudos y se mantiene el apoyo, etc, pero la interpretación será muy mediocre en la mayoría del repertorio italiano
@cristinatormo I hope I;m understanding you correctly?.I do agree that the singer should adhere to the tempos and the beats to the measure.However for the tenor just to be adequate vocally ,is just not good enough.This could be the reason why Del Monaco never sang Elisre Da'More as perhaps Domingo never sang Puritani. Even though our opinions differ, I am enjoying the transfer of information. Thank You
Jose Carreras is one of those rare artists that only comes along every so often and never again. I know I know.... He doesn't have the best technique or the best voice or the prettiest high notes ect ect ect... Well I could care less about all that BS because I go for tone and feel and Jose has tons of it. Give me tone and feel and you can keep all of that text book BS!
Jose Carreras in his prime has the most wonderful voice on the planet. No one could match him for sweetness of tone, musicianship, interpretation and agility of voice. He was incomparable. Added to this, his passion, sensuousness and good looks, his 1970's and 80's operas on DVD's relegate any present-day Hollywood movie into the XYZ category.
Y Carreras Vencio !!!!! pudo con todo, con las criticas siempre injustas,con la enfermedad , pudo con todo , es innegable su Maravillosa Voz y el Poder de la misma ,Carreras ya se Gano la Eternidad . ***** 10 *****
@tukilala Porque Jose Carreras es unos de esos hombres que solamente se ven una vez en esta vida. El tipo es especial y su nombre ha sido inmortalizado como unos de los mejores tenores!
Placido and Carreras sung it how it should be done in Turandot. Pavarotti in fact 'recreated' Nessun Dorma to his art of singing, but that is really not how Puccini once meant it. Beautiful aria, perfectly done with empathy for the drama in this role!
He sings good but Luciano Pavarotti is the best...i mean. I dont know all of them but I listen to Opera for a big while now.... since I was 11 actually. Now Im 25 and still think that Luciano is the best...
@RASHTG Luciano was great. his voice was unique, but I didn't like him on stage. I couldn't believe his charachters he was so static on stage. But again his voice was something unique.
There are subtitles at the bottom, but if you're in the dark about the story, he's fallen in love with the ruthless Princess Turandot. He's solved her riddles which means he's won her hand in marriage (if he lost he'd be killed). He's challenged her to find out his name before the morning to end the wedding and his life. Turandot rules nobody in the city may sleep until his name is discovered, while he proudly watches the night pass and predicts his victory, marriage, and love.
Non ne capisco molto di Opera, ma nel finale è paurosamente potente! Mai sentito un finale del "Nessun Dorma" così, gli esce una bomba al posto della voce
creo que le viene mejor cuando la canta medio tono bajo aqui su voz suena ya muy comrpometida en el si natural se ve que no son sus notas de lujo hace buen esfuerzo y el siempre a sido muy buen tenor
i loved this perf. so much, carreras is pure feeling, great taste, u can see also his lack of technique, something that passed unseen to audiences because of his great musicality, sadly, his lack has progresivly destroyed his vocie, also the lekemia he suffered didn't help
It is impossible for a human to make their "instrument" bigger, wider, taller or deeper than it is. Carreras did more with his "lack" than any other smaller voiced tenor I have ever heard. It is a shame he was so damaged by the cancer and the treatments.
He was a very very good tenor. Not great compared to the best ever, but very good. Add presence, being handsome, and acting ability and you have a great opera performer.
This is the best of the best the way a Tenor voice should sound. Pavarotti's voice was good but a little hummm too how can you say it. well different Placido's is good but I go for Jose Carreras more maybe because I can identify my voice to tha of Jose Carreras.
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Never an opera singer, bad singing technique, screaming at his best and high notes.Pure gola, publicity and no more, spleeEEEEEeeEEEdera molto vibrato....scioo....lerOOooOOO,,,,Too bad and viiIIIIIIncero....VinceeEEEE shouting EEEeee.. weak voice for an opera singer, perhaps his mistake was to interpret roles not for his voice.
@elotello I have no idea why you like this man. Luciano Pavarotti was much better. He had much more feeling in his plays, and overall was a friendlier and more emotional individual. Jose just goes out there and sings, not too exciting to me!
@elotello Singers know that this kind of singing, although exciting (and ugly), is a direct path to a wobble. He ignored all of the rules of tenor passagio singing and paid the price later. Saying that Carreras was better than Pavarotti is just ignorant. I am sorry to be so blunt, but it is hard to read comments like this when you dedicate your life to correct singing technique.
riecco il pavarottiano ..bastaaaaaaaa HAI ROTTOOOO BASTAAAA NON CAPISCI UN PIFFERO FAI COPIA E INCOLLA SU INTERNET STAI ZITTOOOOOOOO ALEBRO83 SEI UN POVERACCIO TI CONTESTERO SEMPRE SEMPRE SEMPRE SEI UN IGNORANTE.GLI UNICI CHE HANNO CONSERVATO LA VOCE QUASI INTEGRA SONO IL GRANDE DOMINGO IL MAESTRO ED IL TENORE DEI TENORI L'INARRIVABILE DEL MONACO TU ASCOLTA FILIPPESCHI AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHHA
MA vai a quel paese, Carreras si aveva una bella voce ma non sapeva un H di tecnica, infatti si vede quanto è durata quella voce splendida :D .... tieniteli per te i tuoi fanatismi, e lascia perdere il Maestro Pavarotti, sennò ti colpisce un fulmine XD
Carreras si è bruciato perchè cantava troppo e troppo al di lài del suo repertorio, indipendemente dalla tecnica. Poi è anche vero che ci sono voci che possono strapazzarsi senza subire conseguenze (Domingo, Gedda, Lauri-Volpi) e altre che si incrinano subito (Anna Moffo, lo stesso Carreras).
In ogni caso ne Carreras ne Pavarotti sono voci adatte a Calaf. (Pavarotti amava quest'aria, ma ascoltatelo in una furtiva lagrima o Che gelida manina. Li era davvero nel suo territorio)
Carreras non si è bruciato perchè cantava troppo, ha fatto lo stesso errore di Di Stefano non copriva + nessun suono ne di fassaggio ne sugli acuti fino a che la muscolatura si è slabrata..Pavarotti non aveva la voce da Calaf ma quest'aria la eseguiva divinamente forse come nessuno. Rodolfo e Nemorino sono i suoi ruoli più riusciti.
Eventhough he really hard to reach high B, but I love the way he sings. Full emotion, and if the tempo not too slow like this, it should be very awsome.
is this that other tenor?
dudeski45 5 days ago
Is this video before or after his cancer?
Chaserpeach 1 week ago
I love the last "vincero"! I swear I felt it!
mtnviewtube 1 week ago
So many nonsense comments. Doesn't matter who is supposed to be the best for this area......I will never forget his live performance that I had the pleasure to attend several years ago. He is one of the few who has the capability to capture instantly the attention of the whole audience......like only a few select others. Voice analysis is not everything.....stage presence is!
tfleiter 2 weeks ago
YEAH ! JOSE SAID VINCERO AGAINST LEUKEMIA AND THE DISEASE IS GONE ! YEAH !
LucaYune 4 weeks ago
I love Carreras, beautiful voice, and he should be compared to De Stefano. This is a poor performance. One contributor has already mentioned the contradiction of the aria, it is written for a lyric tenor, but requires something of a spinto tenor to carry it off. Del Monaco is too loud, too dramatic... Bjorling came closest in his early years. Corelli in modern times...
jrwilmott 1 month ago
Jose preforms like a dream here. One of my favorite Calafs.
To be honest, the role of Calaf was created by Miguel Fleta, a lyric tenor.
Who are we to truly say how Calaf is supposed to sound? Are our opinions directly steaming from Puccini's imagination in his final days? Do the dramatic voices of Corelli, Mario Del Monaco or Domingo truly express this nameless prince's innermost, hidden desires?
Dhyahbolical 2 months ago
como chingados alguien puede poner que no le gusta este video????
putos reggetoneros de mierda...
MsGallerito 2 months ago
@MrsDepp2, the order you say P, D, C, is perhaps the correct. And perhaps, these 3 tenors are 3 of the best in history, surely¡ Into the top ten no doubt¡
millonety123 3 months ago
@JerryJimmson, well, well¡ Don't running¡ Stop¡ Te puede gustar o no PD o JC, pero mucho mejores que ellos?, un poco mejor quizas alguno, pero no MUCHO mejor. Y mejor que Pavarotti en el Nessun? Corelli y MDM eran espectaculares, pero no mejores que Pavarotti, dejemosles en empate, por no ser comparables en estilo ni timbre ni clase de tenor. Pero Pavarotti en el Nessun era otra cosa.
millonety123 3 months ago
Almost the best version.
johnchannetshow 3 months ago
Alfredo Kraus era el mejor!
AmarilloSiempre 3 months ago
great explosive force!
yangdahui 3 months ago
So epic is hurts.
cassandra5322 3 months ago
el mejor es placido domingo con toda mi alma lo digo
shepirot1991 4 months ago
Pushing and forcing is not singing! This is vocal destruction!
TheKyomu2010 4 months ago
@TheKyomu2010 Why so? This is pretty good.
GoodGuitarSolos 3 months ago
@GoodGuitarSolos
Carreras is a light lyrical tenor, Turandot requires a spinto or dramatic tenor. In order for Carreras to display a bigger voice he uses muscular strength to push/force the sound up past his vocal chords. Over the long-term (it took only 5 years in his case) this causes permanent damage with subsequent vocal deterioration. To sing correctly one must sing down and into the centre of the body, this is the essence of Bel Canto.
TheKyomu2010 3 months ago
@TheKyomu2010
who are you? a misjudged genius or just simply an envier? i believe the second one!
derSpuk 3 months ago
@derSpuk
Neither just a student of Bel Canto. Anyone who has studied Bel Canto will easily recognise the pushed and forced sound Carreras is using. What is your singing school?
TheKyomu2010 3 months ago
um.. i'm recognizing just a Great voice here, not pushed or forced, not simply "light and lyrical" indeed, i suppose him to be lyric/dramatic. and "permanent damage" you're talking about has likely (or better "probably", that is only my opinion, as well as everything written above and under) been caused by his longstanding illness which he had successfully won through. i'm fond of his early years and roles, regretfully he is not able to sound as huge as he had to.
FrankoCorelli 2 months ago
@FrankoCorelli
What is your singing school? Carreras, like De Stefano before him, used muscular strength to make his voice sound 'bigger' both were not satisfied with what nature had given them hence the need to push.
Carreras was a light lyrical tenor there is no such thing as a lyrical/dramatic tenor. His voice was in decline from the early eighties years before the onset of his illness.
TheKyomu2010 2 months ago
i was there
productionsFKL 4 months ago in playlist Luciano Pavarotti Mix (40)
He CANNOT sing this aria. His voice is TOO LIGHT and CONSTRICTED.
Baritanist 4 months ago
wow.....this is truly something else....unbelievable !!
never thought voices like this was possible
duffins2007 5 months ago 2
Whos is the best, Pavarotti, Domingo or Carreras, playing Nessun Dorma?
MrsDepp2 5 months ago
@MrsDepp2
Best acting is Carreras, best VOICE is Domingo's, and best........
Pavarotti was overrated. =\
yuptydoo 5 months ago
@MrsDepp2
Corelli did it best...and many other Tenors do it better than the 3 Tenors...
JerryJimmson 4 months ago
I know the difference between being a "Fan" or being a "Fanatic", and reading messages of people calling others: "Deaf, Crazy, Lack-of-brains" and so on, just because "maybe" it was the way Jose performed this piece, took them to go for the "Dislike" button, but even though, I love Jose as a talented artist that he is, I did not like his execution of this particular piece!
GennBoy 5 months ago
Superb! TY Oneguin65 for posting.
paulostroff99 5 months ago
GRANDISSIMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrEcchime 6 months ago
The Most epic part 2:50+
MrKrassen 6 months ago
pavarotti performs nesun dorma better than anyone.... carreras needs more air in his luns... :D
maxiborgaro 7 months ago
Aunque para un determinado repertorio carreras es insuperable. Su versión de "Un di al azzurro" es magistral
ThePimpinelo 7 months ago
Es cierto Carreras tiene una preciosa voz, tambiés es cierto que tecnicamente no es tan bueno
ThePimpinelo 7 months ago
that guy RULES at singing
adebrysi 7 months ago
No voy a discutir su calidad que la tuvo pero aquí está fuora di ruolo, aprieta en exceso la voz, hay muchos forzamientos y el agudo final es puro grito. Este fué una de los motivos de la prematura decadencia de su voz. Toda la emisión está en la gola, en el cuello, la zona de paso es problemática. Carreras copió los peores defectos de Di Stefano que junto a un repertorio demasiado dramático para ui voz provocó su deterioro vocal. Una pena porqué fué un tenor lírico de preciosas maneras.
alfonsorama1 8 months ago
As much as I love this aria, I can't help laughing every time I see it because of the way they try to make the tenors look Asian.
AtheneNikephoros 9 months ago
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AtheneNikephoros 9 months ago
YOU TUBE ,REMOVE THE BUTTON DISLIKE
roby8791 9 months ago 47
@roby8791 don't worry about it, you know it's only random bursts of static that somehow registers as dislikes. or possibly, people whose lack of brain disallows them to notice great skill, hehe.
aboctok 5 months ago
why do you dislike him? weirdouz. great soulfull performance
roby8791 9 months ago
This aria is just too big for him.Beautiful quality, but he is straining significantly, especially leading up to the B-natural
sugarbist 9 months ago
Pone mucha pasión y sinceridad. Pero para mí no es el intérprete ideal de Calaf. Le falta fuerza vocal. En las notas largas y altas...queda cortado. Sin embargo es un gran tenor.
1mane2 9 months ago
Carreras was my favorite until I heard Alfie Boe`s version of Nessun Dorma, go check it out :)
Still LOVE Carreras, don`t get me wrong but Boe is the next best thing !
csophie 9 months ago
What concerns me about so many YouTube music posts is how the comparison of artist to artist quickly becomes disagreeable, mean-spirited, and more a means of scoring points rather than (a) appreciating the art form and (b) carefully analyzing the performance/performer as seen and heard. Ideals are needed, but the intersection of the ideal with the actual is where singing comes to life as a theatrical and communicative art form. Nothing scores high in negative posts except one's blood pressure.
Tarcisius53 10 months ago
Naturalidad, pureza y pasion, eso para mi define a jose carreras. Carreras, not the greatest technique but the most beautiful voice ever.
MrJuanBampa 10 months ago
capolavoro a me mi piace + jose carreras che pavarotti per cantare nessun dorma complimenti jose
pianista1997ify 10 months ago
@pianista1997ify fra tutti e due non saprei dove sbattere la testa
MrTombishop 10 months ago
casi se le sale un moco a carreras
djvachiss 11 months ago
The ultimate version is that of Aragall.
esclarmonde1 11 months ago
my very very very best favourite of the three tenors. i love you jose.
666lainey1 11 months ago 24
His upper range was superb, but the reason why Pavarotti will always own this is he could do both, the lower and the higher with a depth that most tenors don't have.
Tonithenightowl 11 months ago
He is so good!!!
TheMooncat3 11 months ago
I'v listened many great performances, but only one made my cry, Placido Domingo.
BycicleRepairman13 11 months ago
@BycicleRepairman13 please go on my channel and listen to nessun dorma by vladimir popov it will bring tears to your eyes
VladimirPopovTenor 11 months ago
pavarotti got immensely fat, lost his voice and started singing things that wasn't meant for his voice....and for this reason he's no where near as amazing as domingo or carreras....the fame got to him and he just started to become over-rated...carreras is just beautiful and between him and domingo is a hard choice to decide, so i wont haha :)
arodoet126 11 months ago
@arodoet126 You're ridiculous and obviously have something against Pavarotti. Domingo, and Carreras are great tenors but Pavarotti just did it so effortlessly. His voice was so much more powerful than either Placido or Jose. I don't think there has been a tenor so good since Caruso.
nicktabus1000 10 months ago
@nicktabus1000 I'm afraid to dissapoint you. Pavarotti had the "smallest" voice among three of them, by his own words. By the way, my maestro had heard all three of them in their prime live, and despite being huge fan of Domingo, he admitted that Carreras is (was) the most gifted tenor of his generation.
My maestro has studied voice in Accademia Teatro alla Scala in 1970's, and he says that during after general rehearsal of Carreras' debut in La Scala, orchestra did a standing ovation for him.
CamerArte 9 months ago
@CamerArte Ha.Ha.Ha. The smallest voice? You're joking me right? I'm an opera singer, a tenor. I know what a big voice is. I can also assure you Pavarotti NEVER said Carreras was the "best" of his generation. Why do you think music critics, and the general public say that Pavarotti is the best? Because they're lying? Get real Carreras is good, but NO pavarotti /watch?v=RdTBml4oOZ8. No one can match that voice.
nicktabus1000 9 months ago
@nicktabus1000 I guess either you are not very eduated, as most americans, either you are Pav's fan.
Let me comment your answer step by step.
1. Pavarotti once told that Carreras is the last great tenor - doesn't it mean that Carreras, by other words, is the best of his generation?
2. I am not saying that Pavarotti had a small voice, but it definately was smaller, than Corelli's or Monaco's (or, in case of a lyric voice, Di Stefano's). But his tech was great, and his voice was very, hmm,
CamerArte 9 months ago
@CamerArte ---->
"flying", if there is English expression like that. My voice teacher (who has sung with Pavarotti in Modena in 1978) says that he hadn't a HUGE voice, but he was like a bell himselm, so that is a matter of tech.
3. I feel badly saying that modern critics as well as modern public are not really educated, what they want of a tenor are only high notes. Pav (I love his voice very much by the way) was not a great actor, and had lack of expression. Some called him "singing machine".
CamerArte 9 months ago
@nicktabus1000"flying", if there is English expression like that. My voice teacher (who has sung with Pavarotti in Modena in 1978) says that he hadn't a HUGE voice, but he was like a bell himselm, so that is a matter of tech.
3. I feel badly saying that modern critics as well as modern public are not really educated, what they want of a tenor are only high notes. Pav (I love his voice very much by the way) was not a great actor, and had lack of expression. Some called him "singing machine".
CamerArte 9 months ago
By the way, I am not telling anything bad about such a great singer. I am just comparing. Everything else is just a matter of taste.
p.s. If you are trying to compare Pavarotti with Caruso, you don't really know what a fach is. Just google it.))
CamerArte 9 months ago
YES.
berickson925 11 months ago
Please listen Mario del monaco is better than Pavarotti Carreras e Domingo. Tell me your opinion. Mario del monaco singing nessun dorma.
mammamiaoppa 1 year ago
Oh my god! He is my boyfriend's relative! And his mother's dad is Jose's God father!wow.....so cool!
cutemey1 1 year ago
tiene sus limitaciones nomas, bueno pero pasa
Elexterminador2008 1 year ago
"I have no idea why you like this man. Luciano Pavarotti was much better." - Because a person of depth can be moved by more than one person at a time. Jose Carreras is a master at his craft. Personal preferences aside, respect can be had by more than one person in a craft as intricate and varied as opera. Afterall, this isn't the Yankees versus the Dodgers. Beautiful is beautiful.
RadioActiveBlog 1 year ago
it's just breathtaking. poland loves carreras!! ;)
atakkabanosow 1 year ago
the last B was an explosion of WOW!!! it;s no wonder he made it to be one of the famous three tenors
fedeymini 1 year ago
@fedeymini it was actually an explosion of pushed sound.
IbranandoBaritone 1 year ago
the last note was an explosion of WOW!!! it;s no wonder he made it to be one of the famous three tenors
fedeymini 1 year ago
As much as I love Carreras I don't think he should have sung such heavy roles on stage. His was an essentially lyric voice that was pushed into roles too big for it.
Not that I'm saying this is a bad performance, this man is one of my idols! I adore his voice, just not particularly in this role.
tenor220 1 year ago
Voce fuori repertorio! Assolutamente penoso!
TheDarthsala 1 year ago
@TheDarthsala Penso che il termine penoso sia assolutamente fuori luogo.Calaf e' uno dei ruoli piu' difficili in assoluto nel melodramma,ma sicuramente CARRERAS ha offerto una prestazione soddisfacente.e' scontato che non si possa paragonare ad un DEL MONACO o ad un PAVAROTTI..altre vocalita'
delmonaco1982 1 year ago
Wonderful
vanessalopezACTRIZ 1 year ago
Of all versions i heard ,i think this one is the best and most beatiful..
MrRoW24 1 year ago 4
One of my favorite versions
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This is so bad it's hilarious. His voice is ugly and insignificant, horrible technique especially with the difficult notes and he can't even remember the text!
TheDarthsala 1 year ago
@TheDarthsala Your comment is so bad its hillarious.
U either dont have ears, or you are not human just go back to your dogshed then pls and go listen to your own howling.
MrRoW24 1 year ago
@MrRoW24 Seriously listen to a real tenor not to this crap!
TheDarthsala 1 year ago
@TheDarthsala WHy cant you bring it with a bit respect.
To me this is allrdy beautiful and yes i dont know any other tenors.
So any suggestions what i should listen to ....if this is crap i wanne listen to some more crap :)
MrRoW24 1 year ago
@MrRoW24 Listen to the versions of Jussi Björling, Mario Del Monaco and Franco Corelli. They have different voice types(which are all great for Nessun dorma) and I can't say who is the best one but that's a matter of personal opinion.
TheDarthsala 1 year ago
José Carreras te quiero mucho!!!
javierino77 1 year ago
While Franco Corelli's voice was, and shall always be the most thrilling tenor to listen to, I cannot deny the incredible beauty and sensitivity in Jose Carreras's voice. Truly melodious!
AriaSinger1 1 year ago
Beautiful! one of my favorites!
eryklegarcon 1 year ago
This is so wrong for his voice, yet he makes it sound so beautiful... True artistry!
barleggero 1 year ago
Absolutely beautiful!
How can it be possible that such a great tenor is criticized by cluless people.
ronderena 1 year ago
Poor performance by a tenor that never was a spinto. Everything above F# is constricted and forced. What a JOKE. I can do it better, and I am a baritone!
Baritanist 1 year ago
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MikaGuro 1 year ago
@Baritanist You're not a barytone, you are not a verdi barytone. You are a poor frustrated pseudo singer. With an awfull voice. I've heard your recordings but they made me laugh!
ronderena 1 year ago
@ronderena LOL who are you to judge. Some armchair expert, nothing more. I LAUGH ABOUT YOU.
Baritanist 1 year ago
Having viewed dozens of performances of nessun dorma over the past few months I find this particular rendition to be my favorite. Del Monico and Corelli have stronger voices but this man simply performs better than anyone else.
Now just a small criticism to those who presume to express themselves in boarish and inappropriate attacks on these gifted performers. Please share what you like about their performance but remember to be polite and show respect for the ART.
mrwebster2008 1 year ago 3
@mrwebster2008 They are all gifted performers&you&I are entitled to our opininons.I think most people show respect for the art.However when artists perform arias & operas outside their repertoire,People have a tendency to become contentious.They realize that the tenor in this case is out of his repertoire.Perhaps it may be the artist thats not showing respect for the ART& it could be the mighty dollar thats motivating the artist¬ the ART.Turandot Chenier Otello command more pay than La Boheme
sugarbist 8 months ago
@sugarbist Honestamente, me gustaría escuchar críticas desde el punto de vista estrictamente musical, de interpretación de la partitura. Los "sabios" de esto nunca hablan, quizá porque no saben.
Pareciera que si uno sólo cantara papeles estrictamente "adaptados" a sus capacidades (como si los papeles hubieran sido siempre escritos con gran cuidado de no forzar las capacidades de los cantantes del tipo vocal correspondiente, lo que no es verdad) ya habría alcanzado la perfección......
cristinatormo 6 months ago
@cristinatormo I agree that artists should attempt roles outside their repertoire&capabilities.Gigli Pavarotti&DiStefano were somewhat successful in doing so.I think Carrera's voice did not respond well in the more spinto roles.Each artist has their own interpretation of a role&if they just adhered strickly to the musical score as most studio recordings do,that would be boring&methodical.The B-natural in Nessun Dorma would only be touched¬ held.I prefer live performances over studio.continue
sugarbist 6 months ago
@cristinatormoThere is always a sense of excitement in the air in a LIVEperformance.DelMonaco'sCallas Aida from Mexico was great.They both took liberties with the music as did Lauri Volpi in his live performances&Corelli's as well,Interpolating D-flat in Poliuto& filatura in E Lucevan LeStelle.I believe the musical interpretation of the score is extremely important as per the Composer's wishes but I look at as a wonderful guide to perhaps take some liberties, so we can have exciting performances
sugarbist 6 months ago
@sugarbist Por supuesto que la música en directo es más "emocionante". pero usted debiera saber, ya que como profesional se nos presenta, que yo no lo soy, porqué esta versión en directo, manteniendo o no el último agudo, es con mucho, más interesante que otras versiones donde los límites vocales y técnicos son menos evidentes.
Dónde reside, desde un punto de vista técnico, el secreto de la capacidad para comunicar la situación y hasta el misticismo de este momento mágico en Turandot.
cristinatormo 6 months ago
@cristinatormo I agree that the last high note is not as important than the text of the aria.However, I was trying to make a point that adhering strickly to the score is just not enough.Antonio Cortis Is my favorite Spanish Tenor. He sings this aria beautifully& only touches the B natural.But his interpretation is flawless.
sugarbist 6 months ago
@sugarbist Porque la verdadera emoción artística, no lo que llaman "versiones apasionadas" y otras milongas, proviene de dos ámbitos, de la interpretación, musical y teatral, y para llevarla a efecto, disponer de los recursos vocales adecuados. Si para uno el legato es una tortura.....pues tendrá limitaciones, que serán poco evidentes para mucha gente, porque se alcanzan los agudos y se mantiene el apoyo, etc, pero la interpretación será muy mediocre en la mayoría del repertorio italiano
cristinatormo 6 months ago
@cristinatormo I hope I;m understanding you correctly?.I do agree that the singer should adhere to the tempos and the beats to the measure.However for the tenor just to be adequate vocally ,is just not good enough.This could be the reason why Del Monaco never sang Elisre Da'More as perhaps Domingo never sang Puritani. Even though our opinions differ, I am enjoying the transfer of information. Thank You
sugarbist 6 months ago
great video...look at how wide he gets his mouth at the end....would have been great to hear all that sound in person or with better quality
millerj3066 1 year ago
Amazing, but Pavarotti is the one I liked the most
joseaod15 1 year ago
Jose carreras is great! but nobody sings "Nessun Dorma" like Pavarotti does.
fannycita 1 year ago
Jest najlepszy i najpiękniejszy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
baja6211 1 year ago
cantava male e con tecnica da dilettante già 30 anni fa....
carlo331 1 year ago
i know this may sound very stupid but, in what language is he singing?
cpearl004 1 year ago
@cpearl004 Are you serious? ,,, Italian of course
FacetiousJosh 1 year ago
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@cpearl004 Are you serious? ,,, Italian of course
FacetiousJosh 1 year ago
@cpearl004 Italian.
dimofleto 1 year ago
@cpearl004 hiddish
sugarbist 8 months ago
I have heard many performances of this wonderful aria but this one is quite different, it has a drive and is full of emotions! BRavo!
humangeorge 1 year ago
WOW! Just as awesome as Pavarotti, if not better. LOVE it!
gmed2 1 year ago
bouleversant jose
janinoubert 1 year ago
Ecco un magnifico esempio di tenore che non c'entra NULLA con il ruolo che sta interpretando.
31122051 1 year ago 3
Grande Maestro!
radamesverdi 1 year ago
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Jose Carreras is one of those rare artists that only comes along every so often and never again. I know I know.... He doesn't have the best technique or the best voice or the prettiest high notes ect ect ect... Well I could care less about all that BS because I go for tone and feel and Jose has tons of it. Give me tone and feel and you can keep all of that text book BS!
boxingin 1 year ago
If you like a nice glass of wine you probably like Jose Carreras. If you like crack cocaine you probably like Pavarotti.
Mr54vasilios 1 year ago
@Mr54vasilios That's kind of harsh.. Pavarotti is a great tenor too, maybe even greater than Jose!
boxingin 1 year ago
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yeahbaby2123 1 year ago
Jose Carreras in his prime has the most wonderful voice on the planet. No one could match him for sweetness of tone, musicianship, interpretation and agility of voice. He was incomparable. Added to this, his passion, sensuousness and good looks, his 1970's and 80's operas on DVD's relegate any present-day Hollywood movie into the XYZ category.
elisabeth1741 1 year ago 14
I don't know if he's the best of the tenors, but he is without a doubt - for me - the most artistic one!
JadeDAngelo 1 year ago 9
@JadeDAngelo ill clear up any confusion: he's one of the best tenors.
BOOLsheet 9 months ago
This is absolutely brilliant.
An outstanding performance.
AAAngus1 1 year ago 3
Y Carreras Vencio !!!!! pudo con todo, con las criticas siempre injustas,con la enfermedad , pudo con todo , es innegable su Maravillosa Voz y el Poder de la misma ,Carreras ya se Gano la Eternidad . ***** 10 *****
tukilala 1 year ago 4
@tukilala Porque Jose Carreras es unos de esos hombres que solamente se ven una vez en esta vida. El tipo es especial y su nombre ha sido inmortalizado como unos de los mejores tenores!
boxingin 1 year ago
beautiful, just beautiful - my favourite version of this aria.
Phaedrax2 1 year ago 4
The best thing about carreras is all the emotions n he can transmit to us with his voice...It is pure passion
ulyg92 1 year ago 4
Placido and Carreras sung it how it should be done in Turandot. Pavarotti in fact 'recreated' Nessun Dorma to his art of singing, but that is really not how Puccini once meant it. Beautiful aria, perfectly done with empathy for the drama in this role!
Boerenfox 1 year ago 2
Excellent!!!
teddybearcholla 1 year ago 2
He sings good but Luciano Pavarotti is the best...i mean. I dont know all of them but I listen to Opera for a big while now.... since I was 11 actually. Now Im 25 and still think that Luciano is the best...
RASHTG 1 year ago
@RASHTG Luciano was great. his voice was unique, but I didn't like him on stage. I couldn't believe his charachters he was so static on stage. But again his voice was something unique.
comzmx 1 year ago
scassuni! XD
Alessandroincognitto 1 year ago
"Not great compared to the best ever..."? I don´t understand. For me he is one of the best. At least.
eurydike 1 year ago 4
Esta canción interpretada por este hombre hace que se te ponga el vello de punta! Grande!
FranDeGB 1 year ago
If you're watching this for Humanities, you're a bitch.
LARKSARX 1 year ago
Very underated tenor!! Small man, BIG voice!!
rosscop27 1 year ago 5
underated? he is one of the best!
Trioptio 1 year ago 2
fantastic
siamak742 2 years ago 2
can any body tell me what he's saying in english?
i adore the song but want to know its meaning
ilovesexilovenaked 2 years ago 2
There are subtitles at the bottom, but if you're in the dark about the story, he's fallen in love with the ruthless Princess Turandot. He's solved her riddles which means he's won her hand in marriage (if he lost he'd be killed). He's challenged her to find out his name before the morning to end the wedding and his life. Turandot rules nobody in the city may sleep until his name is discovered, while he proudly watches the night pass and predicts his victory, marriage, and love.
Jaydoggy531 1 year ago
Thanks a lot. you are more like a hero for me now!
ilovesexilovenaked 1 year ago
Non ne capisco molto di Opera, ma nel finale è paurosamente potente! Mai sentito un finale del "Nessun Dorma" così, gli esce una bomba al posto della voce
theflyerita 2 years ago
creo que le viene mejor cuando la canta medio tono bajo aqui su voz suena ya muy comrpometida en el si natural se ve que no son sus notas de lujo hace buen esfuerzo y el siempre a sido muy buen tenor
mariodelmonaco100 2 years ago
no esta mal pero no interpreta en ningun momento,
canta como si diese un recital
elssalmon 2 years ago
You don't have to be jumping around to act...
SeppukuDoll 2 years ago 3
una interpretación notable tremendamente dramática, con una particularidad que solo carreras puede lograr
fabiancamposparedes 2 years ago
Io adoro Carreas e Dpomingoin ruoli diversi
Zarbano Marco
Marco13511 2 years ago
i loved this perf. so much, carreras is pure feeling, great taste, u can see also his lack of technique, something that passed unseen to audiences because of his great musicality, sadly, his lack has progresivly destroyed his vocie, also the lekemia he suffered didn't help
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juancillo 2 years ago 3
It is impossible for a human to make their "instrument" bigger, wider, taller or deeper than it is. Carreras did more with his "lack" than any other smaller voiced tenor I have ever heard. It is a shame he was so damaged by the cancer and the treatments.
He was a very very good tenor. Not great compared to the best ever, but very good. Add presence, being handsome, and acting ability and you have a great opera performer.
charles43110 2 years ago 5
i like more pavarotti.but carreras is good too.
alexalex435 2 years ago
This is the best of the best the way a Tenor voice should sound. Pavarotti's voice was good but a little hummm too how can you say it. well different Placido's is good but I go for Jose Carreras more maybe because I can identify my voice to tha of Jose Carreras.
elotello 2 years ago 11
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Never an opera singer, bad singing technique, screaming at his best and high notes.Pure gola, publicity and no more, spleeEEEEEeeEEEdera molto vibrato....scioo....lerOOooOOO,,,,Too bad and viiIIIIIIncero....VinceeEEEE shouting EEEeee.. weak voice for an opera singer, perhaps his mistake was to interpret roles not for his voice.
LucianoKraCore 1 year ago
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Never an opera singer? While I agree that Carreras had his problems, he was one of the greatest tenors of the last 50 years!
Elisabetta611 1 year ago
@LucianoKraCore Please keep us informed about your schedule in the Scala...
miqueletti 1 year ago
@miqueletti LOL xD
RobbyBagg10 1 year ago
@elotello I think they each had different ways of doing what they did best. Personally I like Pavarotti's best... but this is AWESOME as well...
Maybe that's why they all got together... to celebrate how a Tenor's voice could be different and beautiful in each way...
BonoCarranza88 1 year ago
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@elotello Absolutely beautiful!
How can it be possible that such a great tenor is criticized by cluless people.
ronderena 1 year ago
@elotello I have no idea why you like this man. Luciano Pavarotti was much better. He had much more feeling in his plays, and overall was a friendlier and more emotional individual. Jose just goes out there and sings, not too exciting to me!
Mandzhiyev 1 year ago
@elotello Singers know that this kind of singing, although exciting (and ugly), is a direct path to a wobble. He ignored all of the rules of tenor passagio singing and paid the price later. Saying that Carreras was better than Pavarotti is just ignorant. I am sorry to be so blunt, but it is hard to read comments like this when you dedicate your life to correct singing technique.
FritzFanNY 1 year ago
this should be considered the ultimate tempo for this piece..
Humanitish 2 years ago 6
from 2:22 is best.
alexalex435 2 years ago
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alexalex435 2 years ago
riecco il pavarottiano ..bastaaaaaaaa HAI ROTTOOOO BASTAAAA NON CAPISCI UN PIFFERO FAI COPIA E INCOLLA SU INTERNET STAI ZITTOOOOOOOO ALEBRO83 SEI UN POVERACCIO TI CONTESTERO SEMPRE SEMPRE SEMPRE SEI UN IGNORANTE.GLI UNICI CHE HANNO CONSERVATO LA VOCE QUASI INTEGRA SONO IL GRANDE DOMINGO IL MAESTRO ED IL TENORE DEI TENORI L'INARRIVABILE DEL MONACO TU ASCOLTA FILIPPESCHI AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHHA
andyroma72 2 years ago
best carreras 's nessun dorma
alexalex435 2 years ago 4
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alexalex435 2 years ago
суперрррр!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
anutsi 2 years ago 4
Carreras o Pavarotti ... il migliore in questa aria è l'intramontabile Franco Corelli ...
Stefano2071 2 years ago 2
D'ACCORDO CON TE
andyroma72 2 years ago
No, Carreras unico ed inimitabile, finitela voi pavarottiani dei miei stivali.
gattopardessa 2 years ago 2
MA vai a quel paese, Carreras si aveva una bella voce ma non sapeva un H di tecnica, infatti si vede quanto è durata quella voce splendida :D .... tieniteli per te i tuoi fanatismi, e lascia perdere il Maestro Pavarotti, sennò ti colpisce un fulmine XD
Turee85 2 years ago 2
Carreras si è bruciato perchè cantava troppo e troppo al di lài del suo repertorio, indipendemente dalla tecnica. Poi è anche vero che ci sono voci che possono strapazzarsi senza subire conseguenze (Domingo, Gedda, Lauri-Volpi) e altre che si incrinano subito (Anna Moffo, lo stesso Carreras).
In ogni caso ne Carreras ne Pavarotti sono voci adatte a Calaf. (Pavarotti amava quest'aria, ma ascoltatelo in una furtiva lagrima o Che gelida manina. Li era davvero nel suo territorio)
LordoftheTrapdoors 2 years ago 2
Carreras non si è bruciato perchè cantava troppo, ha fatto lo stesso errore di Di Stefano non copriva + nessun suono ne di fassaggio ne sugli acuti fino a che la muscolatura si è slabrata..Pavarotti non aveva la voce da Calaf ma quest'aria la eseguiva divinamente forse come nessuno. Rodolfo e Nemorino sono i suoi ruoli più riusciti.
AleBro83 2 years ago
io adoro pavarotti domingo e carreras :) in ruoli diversi
luigipava 2 years ago 13
Eventhough he really hard to reach high B, but I love the way he sings. Full emotion, and if the tempo not too slow like this, it should be very awsome.
TaraLoveYouAll 2 years ago 3