WRW Jr. u know he is a legend when he has the greatest split conversion ever recorded in PBA history and the worst break ever recorded in PBA history. :)
hahaha PA doesn't even know what pattern they are on... what a fucking idiot i hate that piece of shit, sucks for WRWJR one of the best if not the best bowler ever in pba
@BlackHeartedPanda I think PA was just so shocked at that moment he forgot the pattern. Actually, you'd be more likely to leave the 8-10 on Shark than on Cheetah.
@cgsmitherine3 A hall of famer and one of the 50 best bowlers of all time, according to the PBA. He was referring to the leave, not Walter Ray, whom he himself considers the best bowler ever. Shit head.
PA is one of the most obnoxious and arrogant bowlers in the history of the PBA, hes not even that good. Williams has arguably the worst break ever in bowling and PA gets up shouting and throwing his hands in the air then realizes oh wow im a jack ass let me get down and act like I actually have a heart and care.
@robr2004 actually this is what happens when you throw any ball too hard so that your revs to speed ratio is completely favoring the linear velocity. Result: Ball fails to get up enough, low angle, ball gets slapped out of the way, 8-10. again, ANY ball
well as much i like seeing wlater get a bad break for once i also hate seeing that other fat BITCH PA win. hate them both but i guess i would rather have seen walter win
I'll bet Cindy Margolis' bOObs would hit harder in the 1-3 than that MoRich ball did that shot.
Perhaps WRW should use a 16 POUND ball like the rest of us, because leaving an 8-10 in the pocket is an end result of using a 15-pound ball, not bad shot-making. I watched this LIVE when it happened (and recorded it on DVD, as I do every week during the regular season), and I have 2 7-10 coversions (both in 1991), WRW's Big-4 pick (2005) and several 300 games on tape, but this is a first for me.
Try saying that when YOU eventually leave a pocket 8-10 split or for that matter a flat-10. A 16-pound ball would hit the pins with enough impact that the 6 takes out the 10.
I also have to agree with some of you saying WRW's lack of hand (low rev rate) also had something to do with it, as I myself have a low rev rate.
You just don't see anyone let alone the greatest ever leave an 8-10 on the Cheetah pattern (35 feet), Maybe the Shark (44 feet), but not a house pattern or the Cheetah.
The pattern has little to do with the leave since his entry angle on both lanes was similar.
He pulled the ball very slightly inside (maybe half a board) and apparently that was enough to reduce the angle of the ball so it slid the 5 in front of the 8 and slip the 6 in front of the 10. Very unfortunate break for that to happen when it did.
very true, even though the entry angle was similar, obviously this shot was dead on arrival, almost no drive thru the pins. throw in the half pocket hit, and youve got yourself an 8-10. finally, somebody else on youtube that understands the game and how its more than chucking it to the gutter and watching it peel.
its definately not a result of a 15 lb ball. its the result of walter rays lack of hand. the ball didnt pick up hard enough and hit like a fruit salad.
Dude. He left the 8-10 because his ball rolled out and did not hook hard enough into the pocket. I bowl with 14 LBS and Ive left solid 9's on perfect pocket hits.
My friend said that afterwards, walter went outside in the back and just screamed "FUCK BOWLING" and tossed his shit to the ground. He heard it from his friend that went to the show. Dunno if its true but shit, id think i would be that pissed to do so if i was him.
@stormBIGbowling No! WRW is awesome and PA too....no comparable. PA is one of the best bowlers ever and aww! the reaction is awesome...is surprise for him
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@CAPTAINCALVES86 well morich is made by brunswick, and brunswick sucked after they moved below the border so...well at least he's with 900 global now...
@CAPTAINCALVES86 me...i love this tournament...is sad what happened here...me dio pena....but i really love Patrick Allen...and this title was for the best bowler in my opinion.......is my favorite tournament of 2009
well. he did pull the shot. but in this pattern, it will hold there. But like someone else says, that ball totally died in the backend, it barely took out the 5 pin. It took a huge bounce off the headpin.... kinda strange for a pro to have that bad of ball deflection.
Had to be a bad rack. O well, That's the first time I've seen someone leave that split when they needed 9 spare to tie or strike to win. I've seen 7-10's in that spot, but not the 8-10.
May be the funniest thing I've ever seen!!! WRW says, "how bout you put the pins on spot?" LOL....How bout you don't pull the ball and gas it you fucking classless prick!!!
Honestly, if that's the worst he said, that's not so bad. A stream of consciousness, "oh crap I just screwed up" train of thought like that could have been a lot more... um, interesting, to say the least. lol
Dude, nice diss of the greatest bowler of all time. Walter is one of the classiest guys in pro sports, and I don't think he was even serious in his "complaint" about the pins not being on spot. Obviously any level-headed guy would be pissed and might make a comment like that.
@odiedude Yeah seriously, he was just mad that he 8-10'd to lose the tournament. He's still arguably the greatest bowler of all time; he had a right to be pissed about that leave.
There were like, five people in my house when we were watching this. When Walter 8-10ed, the entire room just started bursting with "Oh my god!"s and "Holy shit!"s and "Whoa!"s. It was nuts! What a great final though.
He wasnt light in the pocket. He rushed the shot and his speed was higher than any other shot the entire match. Thus, an 8-10. I doubt a re-rack would have done a thing.
This brings back memories of the 1986 King Louie Open, when Walter Ray leaves an 8-10 to lose to Mark Baker. This is the 2nd time he has ever left an 8-10 in the 10th of a title match. Sad enough, Pedersen's comments were a little much(even if they were a spur of the moment deal) and Walter Ray's refusal to take a rerack on that shot cost him title 46. Maybe he might wanna reconsider his rerack philosophy next time.
That's EXACTLY what I thought of when I saw that. In '86 it was a bad shot. This time he really got bullshitted. And yeah, the announcers always scream too much now, I think.
God who's was worse i dont know what to say Randy Pedersen's or Walter Ray's man thats close but i still have to say Randy's walter's was a little light in the pocket if you ask me
Horrible horrible break. The ball looked really flat out of his hand and you can see the deflection when it gets there. Watching it live I figured it would be a flat 10 and would go to a rolloff but seeing that blowout 8 10 was just really shocking.
Simply unbelievable... you can put that up there in the ranks as one of the worst breaks in PBA history... Not taking anything away from PA though, he earned the title, but man what an unfortunate disaster for Walter Ray.
I think he was just as shocked as everybody else. You hardly ever see a pocket 8-10 anymore, especially under those circumstances and with that much angle.
The reason why he said that was a loser because even if WRW had by some miracle converted the 8-10 Spare, it would still make him lose by 1 pin.. it had to be a 9 Spare to tie, or a Strike to win. 8 Spare loses by one... a very bad break.
The single sickest thing I've ever seen on TV when it comes to bowling. 13 boards of hook and a blowout 8-10, that's the kind of thing that makes you stay up restless at night.
wow when i saw this is i couldnt believe it because it was such a bad break and even though i didnt want WRW to win AGAIN im glad that PA won, but still that was a terrible break and PA deserves it but u gotta feel for WRW
I would hate to be that guy's stomach.
35enox 1 month ago
would u rather leave and 8 10 to loose or stone an 8 pin to loose
frogsandbears5534 1 month ago
BEST Video EVER of Walter he sucks so damn much idc if he has 40+ titles or what he's still a damn loser
FFHpoison 1 month ago
Walter Ray would have like 80 titles if he never got ripped off. Chris Barnes would be right behind him.
Ub3rn00berer 2 months ago
THUMBS UP IF YOU NOTICED THE EAGLES WERE BEATING THE GIANTS XD
Driston28 2 months ago
That awkward moment when the top 2 comments are about the same thing...
poison821 2 months ago
hahaha I don't know about you guys, but i cracked up once we all realized we thought he got a strike but didn't ha
achildcalledit 3 months ago
No fingers in it... I kid, of course.
CVSoprano 4 months ago
Where did they get these announcers? Pro-wrestling?
SaraTGinMD 5 months ago
WRW Jr. u know he is a legend when he has the greatest split conversion ever recorded in PBA history and the worst break ever recorded in PBA history. :)
madman102792 6 months ago
OH MY GOD, THATS A LOSER XD
snakeeooo 6 months ago
hahaha u big fat bowling faggot fuck
bigalz420 7 months ago
OMG HES A LOSER! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
SdfuNoob 8 months ago
dont get me wrong but wtf is going on?
myzteryhellz 9 months ago
hahaha PA doesn't even know what pattern they are on... what a fucking idiot i hate that piece of shit, sucks for WRWJR one of the best if not the best bowler ever in pba
BlackHeartedPanda 9 months ago
@BlackHeartedPanda I think PA was just so shocked at that moment he forgot the pattern. Actually, you'd be more likely to leave the 8-10 on Shark than on Cheetah.
bowlersinger 9 months ago
NOO! O MAI GAD THAT'S A LOSER! lol
jonnagilda 9 months ago 3
fuck pa hes a douchebag
Brutekiller147 10 months ago
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FFHpoison 10 months ago
@FFHpoison i have not seen you on tv dumbass.
cedarandmore 8 months ago
@cedarandmore havent seen ur ugly ass on TV either :)
FFHpoison 8 months ago
O wow PA backed n2 2 titles n 2weeks can u believe it ?
brshern 10 months ago
PA is a homo...He gets pissed when he loses...Acts like an asshole win he wins. And i think he might have Down Syndrome
TheFeetofGod 10 months ago
OMG THAT'S A LOSER! XD
fdpfan2008 1 year ago 2
WHAT UP KELS!!!!
bowlintigersrock88 1 year ago
omg thats a loser? what kinda fucking commentator is that?
shit head
cgsmitherine3 1 year ago
@cgsmitherine3 I'm sure Randy was referring to the 8-10 leave and not Walter Ray. A 47-time titlist isn't much of a loser at all.
bowlersinger 9 months ago
@cgsmitherine3 A hall of famer and one of the 50 best bowlers of all time, according to the PBA. He was referring to the leave, not Walter Ray, whom he himself considers the best bowler ever. Shit head.
chris909303 2 months ago
LOL "OH MY GOD THATS A LOSER!"
Astromchaser 1 year ago 25
MO RICH BOWLERS SHOULD BE SHOT besides walter ofcourse
thehotoneisin 1 year ago
One of the worst displays of sportsmanship EVER
thehotoneisin 1 year ago
@thehotoneisin at least it wasn't pete weber.....
secondhandsamson124 1 year ago
PA is one of the most obnoxious and arrogant bowlers in the history of the PBA, hes not even that good. Williams has arguably the worst break ever in bowling and PA gets up shouting and throwing his hands in the air then realizes oh wow im a jack ass let me get down and act like I actually have a heart and care.
thehotoneisin 1 year ago 3
@thehotoneisin reminds me of Ernie Schlegel's reaction to Randy Pedersen leaving the solid 8 back in 95.
bstnrdsxfrk 1 year ago 3
and this is why nobody throws MoRich..its junk. Seriously, who wants to go to a MoRich seminar to watch Mo Pinel sit there and pick his boogies?
robr2004 1 year ago
@robr2004 actually this is what happens when you throw any ball too hard so that your revs to speed ratio is completely favoring the linear velocity. Result: Ball fails to get up enough, low angle, ball gets slapped out of the way, 8-10. again, ANY ball
secondhandsamson124 1 year ago
@secondhandsamson124 Any pattern too, I'm sure.
bowlersinger 9 months ago
@robr2004 well thats whats so great about WRWJR he can win with any company whether nobody throes it or not
brshern 10 months ago
Epic Fail
ADbowling2000 1 year ago
in my house, when someone hits a pocket 8,10 we call it "the walter ray", believe it or not, on our light and and short oil, that split is very often
Interdicted 1 year ago
Great commentating hahahaha. "OH MY GOD THAT'S A LOSER"
FancyGapClawhammer 1 year ago 14
@FancyGapClawhammer I hear it as "OH My GOD WHAT A LOSER" lol
frogsandbears5534 2 months ago
what a bad break :/
albertperez23 1 year ago
Well Walter, if you knew they were off mark you should of taken a re-rack
WSBT960 1 year ago
@WSBT960 depends on if he re-racked earlier in this match, if he did, he can not re-rack again. Only allowed on re-rack per match
wiiman0001 1 year ago
Anytime I am having a bad day I watch this video and it makes me smile
Muchrevs 1 year ago 2
walter ray looks like adolf hitler haha
wlcbryanberg 1 year ago
To bad that Walter Ray 8-10ed in the end. He would never ask for a re-rack because that would be cheating.
nwest1140 1 year ago
Well...in response to Captaincalves86's comment.
A. Why fuck him?
B. It can happen with any ball...MoRich isn't that good anymore end of story
C. WRW is the man but its called a bad break...it happens its just unfortunately that it couldn't happen anyother time
Pierre300bowler 1 year ago 2
Couldn't happen to a better guy
aj1021 1 year ago
I still laugh when I see this
Muchrevs 2 years ago
dude for real, you gotta love seeing other people getting raped in bowling lol
pickslide21 2 years ago
That was amazing. I felt so bad for Walter Ray, but I felt even better for PA!!
ruskybalboa 2 years ago
well as much i like seeing wlater get a bad break for once i also hate seeing that other fat BITCH PA win. hate them both but i guess i would rather have seen walter win
i3enthebowlerkid 2 years ago
I remember seeing this on tv live. I cried so much.
Osborne4Life 2 years ago
i laughed so hard i cried
jbooks05 2 years ago 2
damn, poor wrw jr, i would feel the same if that was me. very unlucky
acemanger1 2 years ago
I'll bet Cindy Margolis' bOObs would hit harder in the 1-3 than that MoRich ball did that shot.
Perhaps WRW should use a 16 POUND ball like the rest of us, because leaving an 8-10 in the pocket is an end result of using a 15-pound ball, not bad shot-making. I watched this LIVE when it happened (and recorded it on DVD, as I do every week during the regular season), and I have 2 7-10 coversions (both in 1991), WRW's Big-4 pick (2005) and several 300 games on tape, but this is a first for me.
AK47Music 2 years ago
15 pound is way more popular than 16 pound...
Ajogamer 2 years ago
Try saying that when YOU eventually leave a pocket 8-10 split or for that matter a flat-10. A 16-pound ball would hit the pins with enough impact that the 6 takes out the 10.
I also have to agree with some of you saying WRW's lack of hand (low rev rate) also had something to do with it, as I myself have a low rev rate.
You just don't see anyone let alone the greatest ever leave an 8-10 on the Cheetah pattern (35 feet), Maybe the Shark (44 feet), but not a house pattern or the Cheetah.
AK47Music 2 years ago
you have less speed with a 16 pound ball...mass x power = force...not mass = force...
Ajogamer 2 years ago
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BowlerScott 2 years ago
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BowlerScott 2 years ago
The pattern has little to do with the leave since his entry angle on both lanes was similar.
He pulled the ball very slightly inside (maybe half a board) and apparently that was enough to reduce the angle of the ball so it slid the 5 in front of the 8 and slip the 6 in front of the 10. Very unfortunate break for that to happen when it did.
BowlerScott 2 years ago
very true, even though the entry angle was similar, obviously this shot was dead on arrival, almost no drive thru the pins. throw in the half pocket hit, and youve got yourself an 8-10. finally, somebody else on youtube that understands the game and how its more than chucking it to the gutter and watching it peel.
donniedeuce 2 years ago
its definately not a result of a 15 lb ball. its the result of walter rays lack of hand. the ball didnt pick up hard enough and hit like a fruit salad.
jbooks05 2 years ago
Did you say "fruit salad"? Gee, Ernie Schlegel would sue Walyer Ray for trademark infringement.
Only Ernie Schlegel can use the term "fruit salad".
AK47Music 2 years ago
Dude. He left the 8-10 because his ball rolled out and did not hook hard enough into the pocket. I bowl with 14 LBS and Ive left solid 9's on perfect pocket hits.
Astromchaser 2 years ago
I use a 16 lb ball and I bowl straight for a strike.
nwest1140 2 years ago
My friend said that afterwards, walter went outside in the back and just screamed "FUCK BOWLING" and tossed his shit to the ground. He heard it from his friend that went to the show. Dunno if its true but shit, id think i would be that pissed to do so if i was him.
holiholiho 2 years ago 3
lmfao i believe that he did.. thats so funny
pickslide21 2 years ago
omg he looks like hitler
carlorowan 2 years ago
patrick allen's reaction was bad, not as bad as earnie schlegel against Randy Pederson but it is bad raising your arms in celebration.
1. Patrick that reaction has taken away your dignity
2. Walter do not worry you are 99 minilliongagillionmillion times better than PA will be in his career
stormBIGbowling 2 years ago
It's too bad that Walter Ray 8-10ed. And he lost his 46th title.
nwest1140 2 years ago 2
@stormBIGbowling No! WRW is awesome and PA too....no comparable. PA is one of the best bowlers ever and aww! the reaction is awesome...is surprise for him
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tjbman07 2 years ago
take it walter! take it!
I bowling a tourny when i saw it, best part of the day!!
bo131345 2 years ago
is WRW on the MoRich staff or he just likes that bowling balls
300tweener 2 years ago
He's on Morich's staff.
thezang85 2 years ago
Oh my God! He 8-10ed on shark!
4GPA 2 years ago 3
What a shame. Hahahahahahahahaha.
4GPA 3 years ago
this is P.A's house...he owns this place
Varsity300 3 years ago
A. fuck patrick allen, B. i cant believe this happened with a morich ball. C. walter ray is the man, fuck this tourny...lol
CAPTAINCALVES86 3 years ago 13
well said.
thezang85 2 years ago
@thezang85 yeah well said fuck pa
TheOnehandedwonder 1 year ago
i agree
DethRail 2 years ago
@CAPTAINCALVES86 well morich is made by brunswick, and brunswick sucked after they moved below the border so...well at least he's with 900 global now...
Ajogamer 1 year ago
@Ajogamer After going with Track for 2010-2011, WRWJ is back with Brunswick for 2011-2012
tommyboy6181 1 month ago
@CAPTAINCALVES86 me...i love this tournament...is sad what happened here...me dio pena....but i really love Patrick Allen...and this title was for the best bowler in my opinion.......is my favorite tournament of 2009
vitalogy66 1 year ago
"OH MY GOD THATS A LOSER!!!!" I was laughing so hard! lol
VerseJer333 3 years ago 3
bahaha who wasn't?........ besides walter ray
pickslide21 2 years ago
well. he did pull the shot. but in this pattern, it will hold there. But like someone else says, that ball totally died in the backend, it barely took out the 5 pin. It took a huge bounce off the headpin.... kinda strange for a pro to have that bad of ball deflection.
frankied14 3 years ago
PA is one lucky SOB lol
Page WASHOUT, WRW 8-10...lol
superdutch44 3 years ago 2
Had to be a bad rack. O well, That's the first time I've seen someone leave that split when they needed 9 spare to tie or strike to win. I've seen 7-10's in that spot, but not the 8-10.
holdem300 3 years ago
Watch the ball deflect, the ball hit like a sponge.
sciotto5 3 years ago
Bad Rack. Then again, the ball didn't hit the same that time. Marco, you have no idea what you are talking about... 45 Titles?
Yeah, Morich sucks... *cough*... right...
TheStarvingTenor 3 years ago
lols. thats pure bad carry. that could have been a strike.
inspirebowl 3 years ago
May be the funniest thing I've ever seen!!! WRW says, "how bout you put the pins on spot?" LOL....How bout you don't pull the ball and gas it you fucking classless prick!!!
RepublicanGenius 3 years ago
Honestly, if that's the worst he said, that's not so bad. A stream of consciousness, "oh crap I just screwed up" train of thought like that could have been a lot more... um, interesting, to say the least. lol
NYDanno85 3 years ago
Dude, nice diss of the greatest bowler of all time. Walter is one of the classiest guys in pro sports, and I don't think he was even serious in his "complaint" about the pins not being on spot. Obviously any level-headed guy would be pissed and might make a comment like that.
odiedude 3 years ago 7
@odiedude He's a fag. I bet his dick is your mouth right now.
TheBrassHole 1 year ago
@odiedude Yeah seriously, he was just mad that he 8-10'd to lose the tournament. He's still arguably the greatest bowler of all time; he had a right to be pissed about that leave.
bstnrdsxfrk 1 year ago
I saw this on TV and I was screaming and running around the house. This was a shocker!
DTowNdonTblinK 3 years ago
There were like, five people in my house when we were watching this. When Walter 8-10ed, the entire room just started bursting with "Oh my god!"s and "Holy shit!"s and "Whoa!"s. It was nuts! What a great final though.
redsoxbruins12 3 years ago 12
thats vintage morich. cover is too strong and burns up and hits like a pancake. lol thats just too fricken gangster
marco248 3 years ago
breaks my heart. poor walter. i was devistated to see that.
Musicalbowlrkat300 3 years ago
This was more exciting than the Eagles-Giants game that was on the other channel. Love watchin the PBA on a snowy Sunday afternoon !
dann2ptf 3 years ago
lol yeah rough break, i have left the 8-10 a couple times years ago.
y2khawk262 3 years ago 2
He wasnt light in the pocket. He rushed the shot and his speed was higher than any other shot the entire match. Thus, an 8-10. I doubt a re-rack would have done a thing.
flydude1063 3 years ago
This brings back memories of the 1986 King Louie Open, when Walter Ray leaves an 8-10 to lose to Mark Baker. This is the 2nd time he has ever left an 8-10 in the 10th of a title match. Sad enough, Pedersen's comments were a little much(even if they were a spur of the moment deal) and Walter Ray's refusal to take a rerack on that shot cost him title 46. Maybe he might wanna reconsider his rerack philosophy next time.
TheChewmiester02 3 years ago
That's EXACTLY what I thought of when I saw that. In '86 it was a bad shot. This time he really got bullshitted. And yeah, the announcers always scream too much now, I think.
DaCaptain924 3 years ago
God who's was worse i dont know what to say Randy Pedersen's or Walter Ray's man thats close but i still have to say Randy's walter's was a little light in the pocket if you ask me
matthorn70 3 years ago
Randy's was also at the cost of missing out on a major title.
redsoxbruins12 3 years ago
that was the worst break ever
earnhardtlivesE 3 years ago
Horrible horrible break. The ball looked really flat out of his hand and you can see the deflection when it gets there. Watching it live I figured it would be a flat 10 and would go to a rolloff but seeing that blowout 8 10 was just really shocking.
kingrage 3 years ago 3
Simply unbelievable... you can put that up there in the ranks as one of the worst breaks in PBA history... Not taking anything away from PA though, he earned the title, but man what an unfortunate disaster for Walter Ray.
redsoxbruins12 3 years ago
yea i wanted PA to win too especially shooting 753 the first 3 games but man thats devastating and he probably felt so great about that ball too
bongxman 3 years ago
C'mon Randy, I'm sure you could have thought of something better to say than "Omg thats a loser!!" geez
KenJones300 3 years ago
I think he was just as shocked as everybody else. You hardly ever see a pocket 8-10 anymore, especially under those circumstances and with that much angle.
NYDanno85 3 years ago 4
The reason why he said that was a loser because even if WRW had by some miracle converted the 8-10 Spare, it would still make him lose by 1 pin.. it had to be a 9 Spare to tie, or a Strike to win. 8 Spare loses by one... a very bad break.
TheStarvingTenor 3 years ago
The single sickest thing I've ever seen on TV when it comes to bowling. 13 boards of hook and a blowout 8-10, that's the kind of thing that makes you stay up restless at night.
duke4ever04 3 years ago 2
wow when i saw this is i couldnt believe it because it was such a bad break and even though i didnt want WRW to win AGAIN im glad that PA won, but still that was a terrible break and PA deserves it but u gotta feel for WRW
Ericman777 3 years ago 2