With video quality this bad, I couldn't see the actual face of Hakeem because this video made Hakeem look like one half Kobe Bryant and one half Kevin Durant.
Yes there was hand checking and no zones, but they weren't allowed to be doubled without the ball either, they couldn't double or triple a low post player before he got the ball, now they can surround bigs with player before he even gets the ball. That's the biggest difference. Much harder these days for one on one play. Man to Man was made for the one on one player.
they didn't really have to double someone without the ball because they could handcheck them. They were allowed to physically restrain people who didn't have the ball. You could hug a guy to keep him from getting open. Man to man was the most effective defense in the 90s because handchecking allowed you to actually defend people. Scottie Pippen said it himself, "You can't defend somebody as fast as Lebron or Wade without handchecking." Don't forget that the 3-sec rule frees up the lane too.
What's up with this "can you imagine" garbage used on Hakeem? Hakeem was a fantastic player without the skills of other players. The sky hook is what defined Kareem, Larry Bird and his shot, Magic and his passing ability...and the Dream Shake is the Dreams. If you're going to say "can you imagine if Hakeem had blah blah blah", think of this: Can you imagine is ________________ was like Hakeem Olajuwon?
The will never be a big man that has the moves Hakeem had. The Dream was silky smooth, would dunk on your head, grab boards and swat your shit. I remember when he got a quadruple double. He's he most gifted center I've ever seen, over Kareem and Shaq.
@MikeDonte21: again, same thing I told nune44, that's not of the top 3 toughest moves of ALL time to defend (in my opinion) it's a top 5 though no doubt along with Allen Iverson's prime crossover
@frusionnn AGREED but erm..can i put in another 1..it's tmac's jumpshot.. hahah. . i believe it's hard to contest..but kareem's skyhook..owh..i love to use it!! HAHAHA..
@RetarddHater damn you respond to a lot. I've saw too many years of duncans automatic baseline pivoting bank to even try to remember. But your top three was is hard to argue with
@TyroneNBAFan no, that's not too tough to stop considering the fact that Shaq was never really a good dribbler. he was somewhat okay in his rookie years with Orlando but post 1996, not really.
@tokinblckgie no I did not ''forget'' it. I did not add that because that is not among the top 3 toughest moves of all time to defend. you can debate Hakeem's dream shake with Iverson's prime crossover (the one he did on Michael Jordan in 1997)
@cLGenocide I know why you say that. because Kareem is a 7+ footer. the reason why I think Jordan's fadeaway was tougher was because Jordan was so quick at it. his speed made it nearly impossible to defend that shot in his prime. anywhere from 1987-1998 (even though Jordan didn't go to the fadeaway until about 1990)
@Malston1491 false ray allen can create his own shot he sacrificed his superstar ability for the system...look at ray allen in connecticut, milwaukee and seatlle?
@nikoisgreek no. it's top 3 not 4. & Kobe's era is weaker than the 90s. 90s had handchecking, post 2004 hasn't had it. and don't give me the zone defense to make up for the handchecking.
@frusionnn but that's why they allowed hand checking, because of no zone. can you imagine the athletic players now with no zone, rose, wade, lebron, kobe(2007 kobe), amare, d-will etc. those guys would shit on any team single handed.
@kobe2curry4rose1 no it's not that they allowed hand checking because of no zone. zone defense didn't exist in the 90s. that is why it is nearly impossible to compare era's since the NBA rules have always changed.
@frusionnn so zone did not exist in the 90's right. then what do you tell the people who say jordan was only great because of no zone. i personally think their were better one on one defenders then since alot of iso was goin on. now it's more of a team defense. but what's your take on that?
@kobe2curry4rose1 and you saying ''can you imagine the NBA today with no zone is relevant to me saying can you imagine the 90s with no handchecking?'' you can't compare it like that. if that was the cse, Michael Jordan would be averaging 40-45 PPG in the 90s EASILY (statistically/theoretically speaking)
@frusionnn This statement is a logical fallacy. Just because there was more contact allowed in the 90's doesn't constitute a "stronger" era. Today's game features stronger, faster, more conditioned players with a higher average talent level. Jordan didn't play against many elite defenders. I'd think it would be interesting to see Jordan play in this era in his prime. I don't think he would have scored more than he did in the 90's just because the rules have changed.
@persiandud the defenders jordan faced was better than in any era.
they could stop jordan with their hands( NBA now doesn't allow that) meaning that jordan has to have more strength to brush of defenders. beside's today's era of defenders hardly play defense
@6GAUGETTC I'm sure the defenders nowadays could stop Jordan....with their hands. I haven't heard much evidence coming from you that the 90's featured better defenders. The best perimeter defender of the 90's was Gary Payton. He was the only player to hold Jordan below 25 points in a playoff game his entire career. But he was still physically outmatched. Nowadays you have more versatile defenders like Gerald Wallace and Josh Smith that can guard pretty much anyone.
@persiandud there were still many great defenders like dumars whom could stop jordan becos of the hand checking rule that is no longer in the nba rulebook
Gary Payton, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, Joe Dumars, Mitch Richmond, Michael Cooper, John Salley, Alvin Robertson, hell even Hersey Hawkins and Reggie Miller shit on guys like Smith and Wallace. This just leads me to believe that you didn't watch bball in Jordan's day. Joe Dumars had more defensive talent in his pinkie than Gerald Wallace has in his dizziest fantasies. The only reason there are more athletic players now is because they thrive with the lack of talent.
@SolidSnakeRules Joe Dumars had the luxury of physicality and hand checking. Players today only get away with so much of that. Today you have to actually use your feet. Today's defensive players are much better.
@tghetto5 I did watch him play. The basis for his defense was not physical restraint of the offensive player. The perimeter defensive star is nearly nonexistent in today's game. There's no defensive talent like Dumars, Rodman, or Pippen anymore. I challenge you to name just one player better on the defensive end than Pip or Rodman. Again, I suspect the reason you think today's defensive players are better is because you never watched the defense of yesteryear.
@SolidSnakeRules I watch throwback games all the time. Defense was non existent, just wide open mid-range shots and fast breaks..That's why the score would always be like 120 to something. You old school cats want it both ways. "Jordans era was tougher, more physical, he had to go against handchecking." Now it's "Oh, Dumars didn't use physicality or handchecking." LMAO..Try scoring in the early 2000's when you have less possessions against the set. Pistons holding teams to 70ppg.
I didn't say Dumars didn't use it, I said it wasn't the basis for his game. You just said Dumars didn't play defense with his feet which is a ludicrous statement. I said he didn't rely solely on handchecking. Free layups today > midrange.
You are also wrong to assume that less scoring = better defense. The easiest way to score is a fast break off of a turnover. Good D means you will score. The reason scoring has dropped is because of zone defense (which was obsolete with handchecking allowed)
@SolidSnakeRules Well I'm not going to hop in to this circular argument about your subjective interpretation of "better defense" I can easily argue that piss poor offense was creating all the TO/s. It's dumb and we will be going back and forth all day. All I can say is, your "great defenders." Gave up 100's of points per game...Peace..
@tghetto5 It's not a circular argument because scoring dropped before the defensive rules were changed. In fact, the 3-second rule and handchecking policy were added BECAUSE scoring was going down, to make it easier for the offensive player. Let this argument continue as it began, without your pointless interference.
@SolidSnakeRules You have to consider the hand checking rule though... that literally made perimeter players untouchable. I actually think that after a transitional period while people were still getting used to the lack of hand checking, defense has become sexy again (the last couple of championship teams have all been top 5 defensively). And the league doesn't lack talent, it's just spread out very thin.
and by the way, since it's the 90s you can't just look at perimeter D. Why? Because centers could camp in the lane without the 3-second rule! So add Robinson, Olajuwon, Mutombo, Shaq, Ewing, Moses, Karl Malone, Mourning, Manute, Eaton, Bradley, Mahorn, Oakley, Parish, McHale - hell, even though Laimbeer wasn't much of a shot blocker he would still maul you if you tried to drive the lane. Today is a league of Kwame Browns. Most shot-blockers today come on help D.
@cdrcarl24 no I am not forgetting it actually. only reason I didn't put iverson's prime crossover was because that's not a shot. that's just a ball fake. even though it was deadly
@DNW41 may you read the comment I posted more clearly before asking that question? I mentioned three in my comment. meaning three of the toughest moves to defend. I didn't think Dirk's was top 3 (in my opinion)
@knicks3085 I wouldn't say the BEST center of all time. but top 5 centers of all time no doubt about it. my personal top 5 best centers of all time (not in order of best to worst): Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain (R.I.P.), Bill Russell, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shaquille O'Neal
the strength, the footwork, the balance, the shooting touch ... when he was n his prime i don't believe their was a more complete center (or maybe player!) 2 ever play this game ...
@Basch152 nah best move had to be MJ's Fadeaway jumper cause it looked alot nicer..........skyhook was one of the ugliest shots ever LOL.........which is why no1 ever uses it these days.......imo i guess
@Ryzon28 No one uses it because no one is over 7 foot, has monkey arms, and has a butlload of skill. Kareem's shot is very difficult. People who write him off just because he was tall are retarded.
@Basch152 it wasn't really unstoppable...it was unstoppable for most people. But Hakeem and Wilt have blocked it. So, it could be stopped. You just had to be extremely quick, and athletic, which Hakeem was
@adayala2006 I wasn't talking about early 90's smartass. I was talking about when kareem first entered the league when he scored 100+ points during a game
@angeredjudge weak defense are you serious??? There were no zone defenses, there was handchecking...less calls. The 70s 80s 90s were the golden age of the nba. This zone defense shit is pathetic.
@frusionnn i think jordans prime ...hold on even when the dude was 40 his fadeaway was the most beautiful unstoppable shot EVER in my opinion anyway.lol peace.
Yeah in a way, but it wasn't necessarily a move it was generalized to every move he did in the low post because all of his moves made the other guy seam like he was asleep (dreaming). Check out what he did to David Robinson in the playoffs in the '90s and you'll see what I mean
It's too late. His train has come and gone. He'll surely be missed if not already. Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon --- 1994 and 1995 NBA Champion; also labeled "One of the 50 Greatest Players of All Time" back in 1996
I know the quality is poor, but if you look closely, you can see LeBron traveled.
gsvkck 1 month ago
@gsvkck mindless sheep
avatarhzh527 1 month ago
@gsvkck I know your brain quality is poor, but that's an old joke that's not even remotely funny. And I don't even like Lebron.
KhMErTRiAd 1 month ago
@gsvkck just shut up, you're embarrasing yourself /
LBJ1996 6 days ago
youtube.com/user/GATHERING144
boronatmanny 2 months ago
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Got me watchin NBA old games/best plays/funny moments/shit on YouTube... Fuckin lockout.
rap08 3 months ago
240p we meet again
TonyDebeli 3 months ago
Which pixel is Hakeem?
RevantTV 4 months ago
I bet if you put Hakeem on a bad team like the buck's he would put up big nummber's in the post still haha
Shawnistheman420 4 months ago
he serves more shakes than smoothie king
blo225 4 months ago
Hakeem's Dream Shake was awesome. Best low-post move in history. Get over it.
Most unstoppable move: Whatever Jordan did when he had the ball.
billionshadows 5 months ago
back xhen people would care if theo ratliff would get owned
MiopTop 5 months ago
With video quality this bad, I couldn't see the actual face of Hakeem because this video made Hakeem look like one half Kobe Bryant and one half Kevin Durant.
SBERTOL84 5 months ago
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Thats obviously a travel on LeBron
chumsyalibumsy09 5 months ago 10
You need a new potato
bigfetz55 6 months ago
Poor Theo, I'll bet he still tosses and turns in his sleep to this day....
iwoodh82bu40 6 months ago
Once they got those new jerseys, it was alllllllllllllll downhill for the Dream
oldmanwithers1 6 months ago
@oldmanwithers1 100% agreed
JimbolovesUTube 6 months ago
Yes there was hand checking and no zones, but they weren't allowed to be doubled without the ball either, they couldn't double or triple a low post player before he got the ball, now they can surround bigs with player before he even gets the ball. That's the biggest difference. Much harder these days for one on one play. Man to Man was made for the one on one player.
lakertang 6 months ago
they didn't really have to double someone without the ball because they could handcheck them. They were allowed to physically restrain people who didn't have the ball. You could hug a guy to keep him from getting open. Man to man was the most effective defense in the 90s because handchecking allowed you to actually defend people. Scottie Pippen said it himself, "You can't defend somebody as fast as Lebron or Wade without handchecking." Don't forget that the 3-sec rule frees up the lane too.
SolidSnakeRules 6 months ago
i guess this video is hd quality
pikatura94 7 months ago
Dude was and always will be awesome
hailhopes 7 months ago
Anyone know where I can get a dream shake?
jaybeezy58 7 months ago
if you guys dont watch my NBA Videos you miss the most passionate vids ever!
KingKoltAir 1 year ago
What's up with this "can you imagine" garbage used on Hakeem? Hakeem was a fantastic player without the skills of other players. The sky hook is what defined Kareem, Larry Bird and his shot, Magic and his passing ability...and the Dream Shake is the Dreams. If you're going to say "can you imagine if Hakeem had blah blah blah", think of this: Can you imagine is ________________ was like Hakeem Olajuwon?
success2life 1 year ago
mjs fadeaway
kareems sky hook
hakeems dream shake
rondo/maravich ball fake
luvdaworldplz 1 year ago
@luvdaworldplz Rondo?! lmao, get the fuck outta here...
CoolerKing37 1 year ago
can u imagine if hakeem had kareems sky hook?....
krndude91a 1 year ago
@krndude91a Can you imagine if Hakeem had MJs athleticism, Birds perimeter shot and Magics court vision???
Chrischi7777 1 year ago
chuck hayes free throw
vexed334 1 year ago
90's Shaq DUNK!!
moneysuccesslegacy 1 year ago
Announcer "DREAAAAAAM SHAAAAAAKE"
FILIPINOROYALTY 1 year ago
mchale's up and under
rrevamuntan 1 year ago
Oh yes it was unstoppable. No one could defend it. Not Robertson, not Rodman, not Malone, not anybody could defend the Dream Shake
longbowgold67 1 year ago
@longbowgold67 nobody still cant! lol .well unless you do it wrong, but
good point!
jazmine251269 1 year ago
@MrNYCATL wat u mean by that i dnt get it
otchere1305 1 year ago
I love HD vids like this
nbakings7 1 year ago
I miss people like Hakeem in the NBA, real talent.
BBTVXQLOVE 1 year ago
Hakeem had the best post moves ever.
iHipHop 1 year ago
The will never be a big man that has the moves Hakeem had. The Dream was silky smooth, would dunk on your head, grab boards and swat your shit. I remember when he got a quadruple double. He's he most gifted center I've ever seen, over Kareem and Shaq.
sckrbt 1 year ago
Rondo uses this now
ikedogg423 1 year ago
he served more shakes than burger king
TheFlex21 1 year ago 107
@TheFlex21 O shit 0_o
JaySooz508 1 year ago
@TheFlex21 LmAo!
Z3NZILE 7 months ago
@TheFlex21 Well, let's be honest. Burger King's shakes aren't nearly as good.
rtydhg9q 5 months ago
I love that move! I use it myself. Not near as nice, though when I do it... Still works, though!
brasmussen81 1 year ago
During early 90's basketball, ref was biased, but not like now. Now, if D Wade, Kobe, or Lebron drives, somebody brushes against them, it's a foul.
Too much stoppage. I liked basketball when it was about 2 hr 30-45 min long, not 3 and a half hours.
posteriordepression1 1 year ago
Dont forget Duncans bank shot
MikeDonte21 1 year ago 2
@MikeDonte21: again, same thing I told nune44, that's not of the top 3 toughest moves of ALL time to defend (in my opinion) it's a top 5 though no doubt along with Allen Iverson's prime crossover
frusionnn 1 year ago
lol ma fault...didnt really read the top three part! lol....but if it was top four then for sure! lol...
nune44 1 year ago 3
three of the TOUGHEST moves of ALL time to defend (not in order of best to worst):
Michael Jordan's fadeaway
Kareem's sky hook
Hakeem's dream shake
let me know whoever agrees with me on that
frusionnn 1 year ago 237
yyuuupppp...and i would throw iversons crossover....back in his prime...shit was deadly
nune44 1 year ago 7
nune44: only reason I didnt put Iversons prime crossover was to make it top 3 instead of 4. lol
frusionnn 1 year ago
lol ma fault...didnt really read the top three part! lol....but if it was top four then for sure! lol...
nune44 1 year ago 2
nune44: no worries
frusionnn 1 year ago
dont you mean iverson's carry, the guy carried the ball a lot
sopa71479 1 year ago 2
@frusionnn AGREED but erm..can i put in another 1..it's tmac's jumpshot.. hahah. . i believe it's hard to contest..but kareem's skyhook..owh..i love to use it!! HAHAHA..
penyumerah02 1 year ago
@penyumerah02 lol great
frusionnn 1 year ago
@frusionnn
hakeem had just as good a fadeway as jordan
and you have to think back at when Jordan started using the fadeway, it was when Hakeem one those 2 championships...THEN jordan started using it
hakeem has the Dream Shake AND the fadeway
TheFlex21 1 year ago
@TheFlex21 ....Michael Jordan started using his patented fadeaway in the late80s-early 90s.
frusionnn 1 year ago
@frusionnn lol VC's facial dunk
RetarddHater 1 year ago
@RetarddHater that's not a shot though, that's a dunk
frusionnn 1 year ago
@RetarddHater damn you respond to a lot. I've saw too many years of duncans automatic baseline pivoting bank to even try to remember. But your top three was is hard to argue with
samauripizzacats101 1 year ago
@frusionnn TOTAL agreement.
TheSurefireGamer 1 year ago
@frusionnn I agree. How about adding Shaq's drop step (or dislodge step) to that list?
TyroneNBAFan 1 year ago
@TyroneNBAFan no, that's not too tough to stop considering the fact that Shaq was never really a good dribbler. he was somewhat okay in his rookie years with Orlando but post 1996, not really.
frusionnn 1 year ago
@frusionnn i do
nbamoves3 1 year ago
@nbamoves3 =]
frusionnn 1 year ago
@frusionnn i couldn't agree with you more
ilovefrankandbeans 1 year ago
@ilovefrankandbeans ^__-
frusionnn 1 year ago
@frusionnn also kobe's fadeaway
DontTakeCrack 1 year ago
@DontTakeCrack can you not read?....I said three of the toughest. not 5-10.
frusionnn 1 year ago
@frusionnn OUCHHHHH. but yeah u forgot kobes fadeaway
DontTakeCrack 1 year ago
@DontTakeCrack okay you obviously don't understand what I just said. KOBE'S FADEAWAY IS NOT A TOP 3 OF THE TOUGHEST MOVES TO DEFEND!
frusionnn 1 year ago 15
@frusionnn lol and you obviously don't understand the subtlety of my comment otherwise you'd be ignoring it.
DontTakeCrack 1 year ago
@DontTakeCrack kobe's fadeaway is a turnover. Period
lafunut 1 year ago
@frusionnn
You forgot Shaq's elbow-to-the-face hook shot.
tokinblckgie 1 year ago
@tokinblckgie no I did not ''forget'' it. I did not add that because that is not among the top 3 toughest moves of all time to defend. you can debate Hakeem's dream shake with Iverson's prime crossover (the one he did on Michael Jordan in 1997)
frusionnn 1 year ago
@frusionnn
Chill out dude, it was only a joke. Apparently, sarcasm doesn't carry well throught text.
Even still though, the elbow-to-the-face by Shaq is easily one of the most unguardabe moves in all of basketball. Why do you think he was so dominant?
tokinblckgie 1 year ago
@tokinblckgie I see. I think he was so dominant because of his size. 300+ lbs
frusionnn 1 year ago
@frusionnn and shaq's black tornado lol
itsyaboy41 1 year ago
@itsyaboy41 nope. that's not top 3 all time
frusionnn 1 year ago
@frusionnn I think Kareems sky hook is harder to defend than Jordan's fadeaway =/
cLGenocide 1 year ago
@cLGenocide I know why you say that. because Kareem is a 7+ footer. the reason why I think Jordan's fadeaway was tougher was because Jordan was so quick at it. his speed made it nearly impossible to defend that shot in his prime. anywhere from 1987-1998 (even though Jordan didn't go to the fadeaway until about 1990)
frusionnn 1 year ago
@cLGenocide he specifically said "not in order of best to worst"...
quedasobravo 1 year ago
@frusionnn AND Mark Price's free throw =)
HonoreT35 1 year ago
tim Duncans bank shot
ray allens three point shot
ponchization 1 year ago
@ponchization
ray doesn't shoot off the dribble and faces up on an opponent, he needs a screen to create space
i'll admit though if you leave him open, pray that he misses (which is going to be rare)
Malston1491 1 year ago
@Malston1491 false ray allen can create his own shot he sacrificed his superstar ability for the system...look at ray allen in connecticut, milwaukee and seatlle?
cdrcarl24 1 year ago
@cdrcarl24
That's what i meant
Malston1491 1 year ago
@frusionnn maybe kobe's fadeaway...not saying he's a better player. but he perfected jordans fadeaway.. but you can't go wrong with either.
fannypack311 1 year ago
@frusionnn make that 4, kobes spin dribble shot.
nikoisgreek 1 year ago
@nikoisgreek no. it's top 3 not 4. & Kobe's era is weaker than the 90s. 90s had handchecking, post 2004 hasn't had it. and don't give me the zone defense to make up for the handchecking.
frusionnn 1 year ago
@frusionnn but that's why they allowed hand checking, because of no zone. can you imagine the athletic players now with no zone, rose, wade, lebron, kobe(2007 kobe), amare, d-will etc. those guys would shit on any team single handed.
kobe2curry4rose1 1 year ago
@kobe2curry4rose1 no it's not that they allowed hand checking because of no zone. zone defense didn't exist in the 90s. that is why it is nearly impossible to compare era's since the NBA rules have always changed.
frusionnn 1 year ago
@frusionnn so zone did not exist in the 90's right. then what do you tell the people who say jordan was only great because of no zone. i personally think their were better one on one defenders then since alot of iso was goin on. now it's more of a team defense. but what's your take on that?
kobe2curry4rose1 1 year ago
@kobe2curry4rose1 and you saying ''can you imagine the NBA today with no zone is relevant to me saying can you imagine the 90s with no handchecking?'' you can't compare it like that. if that was the cse, Michael Jordan would be averaging 40-45 PPG in the 90s EASILY (statistically/theoretically speaking)
frusionnn 1 year ago
@frusionnn This statement is a logical fallacy. Just because there was more contact allowed in the 90's doesn't constitute a "stronger" era. Today's game features stronger, faster, more conditioned players with a higher average talent level. Jordan didn't play against many elite defenders. I'd think it would be interesting to see Jordan play in this era in his prime. I don't think he would have scored more than he did in the 90's just because the rules have changed.
persiandud 1 year ago
@persiandud the defenders jordan faced was better than in any era.
they could stop jordan with their hands( NBA now doesn't allow that) meaning that jordan has to have more strength to brush of defenders. beside's today's era of defenders hardly play defense
6GAUGETTC 1 year ago
@6GAUGETTC I'm sure the defenders nowadays could stop Jordan....with their hands. I haven't heard much evidence coming from you that the 90's featured better defenders. The best perimeter defender of the 90's was Gary Payton. He was the only player to hold Jordan below 25 points in a playoff game his entire career. But he was still physically outmatched. Nowadays you have more versatile defenders like Gerald Wallace and Josh Smith that can guard pretty much anyone.
persiandud 1 year ago
@persiandud there were still many great defenders like dumars whom could stop jordan becos of the hand checking rule that is no longer in the nba rulebook
6GAUGETTC 1 year ago
Gary Payton, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, Joe Dumars, Mitch Richmond, Michael Cooper, John Salley, Alvin Robertson, hell even Hersey Hawkins and Reggie Miller shit on guys like Smith and Wallace. This just leads me to believe that you didn't watch bball in Jordan's day. Joe Dumars had more defensive talent in his pinkie than Gerald Wallace has in his dizziest fantasies. The only reason there are more athletic players now is because they thrive with the lack of talent.
SolidSnakeRules 5 months ago 11
@SolidSnakeRules Joe Dumars had the luxury of physicality and hand checking. Players today only get away with so much of that. Today you have to actually use your feet. Today's defensive players are much better.
tghetto5 3 months ago
@tghetto5 if you think Dumars didn't use his feet then you just didn't watch the man play.
SolidSnakeRules 3 months ago
@SolidSnakeRules If you think Dumars used his feet then you just didn't watch the man play...
tghetto5 3 months ago
@tghetto5 I did watch him play. The basis for his defense was not physical restraint of the offensive player. The perimeter defensive star is nearly nonexistent in today's game. There's no defensive talent like Dumars, Rodman, or Pippen anymore. I challenge you to name just one player better on the defensive end than Pip or Rodman. Again, I suspect the reason you think today's defensive players are better is because you never watched the defense of yesteryear.
SolidSnakeRules 3 months ago
@SolidSnakeRules I watch throwback games all the time. Defense was non existent, just wide open mid-range shots and fast breaks..That's why the score would always be like 120 to something. You old school cats want it both ways. "Jordans era was tougher, more physical, he had to go against handchecking." Now it's "Oh, Dumars didn't use physicality or handchecking." LMAO..Try scoring in the early 2000's when you have less possessions against the set. Pistons holding teams to 70ppg.
tghetto5 3 months ago
I didn't say Dumars didn't use it, I said it wasn't the basis for his game. You just said Dumars didn't play defense with his feet which is a ludicrous statement. I said he didn't rely solely on handchecking. Free layups today > midrange.
You are also wrong to assume that less scoring = better defense. The easiest way to score is a fast break off of a turnover. Good D means you will score. The reason scoring has dropped is because of zone defense (which was obsolete with handchecking allowed)
SolidSnakeRules 3 months ago
@SolidSnakeRules Well I'm not going to hop in to this circular argument about your subjective interpretation of "better defense" I can easily argue that piss poor offense was creating all the TO/s. It's dumb and we will be going back and forth all day. All I can say is, your "great defenders." Gave up 100's of points per game...Peace..
tghetto5 3 months ago
@tghetto5 It's not a circular argument because scoring dropped before the defensive rules were changed. In fact, the 3-second rule and handchecking policy were added BECAUSE scoring was going down, to make it easier for the offensive player. Let this argument continue as it began, without your pointless interference.
SolidSnakeRules 3 months ago
@SolidSnakeRules You have to consider the hand checking rule though... that literally made perimeter players untouchable. I actually think that after a transitional period while people were still getting used to the lack of hand checking, defense has become sexy again (the last couple of championship teams have all been top 5 defensively). And the league doesn't lack talent, it's just spread out very thin.
proballa27 2 weeks ago
and by the way, since it's the 90s you can't just look at perimeter D. Why? Because centers could camp in the lane without the 3-second rule! So add Robinson, Olajuwon, Mutombo, Shaq, Ewing, Moses, Karl Malone, Mourning, Manute, Eaton, Bradley, Mahorn, Oakley, Parish, McHale - hell, even though Laimbeer wasn't much of a shot blocker he would still maul you if you tried to drive the lane. Today is a league of Kwame Browns. Most shot-blockers today come on help D.
SolidSnakeRules 5 months ago 17
@SolidSnakeRules i wonder if that rule was in the game back then would most of those guys still be great
LordGlacius90 1 month ago
@frusionnn u forgetting allen iverson crossover it had to be banned
cdrcarl24 1 year ago
@cdrcarl24 no I am not forgetting it actually. only reason I didn't put iverson's prime crossover was because that's not a shot. that's just a ball fake. even though it was deadly
frusionnn 1 year ago
@frusionnn i like the fact u said Jordan's fadeaway, cuz ppl now saying kobe's doing fadeaway, but it aint the same...
edisonsun21c 1 year ago
@frusionnn
Michael Jordan's fadeaway
Kareem's sky hook
Hakeem's dream shake
Shaq's under the rim shit (hahaha it's true)
Lakers24pwnz 1 year ago
@frusionnn May we add Dirk Nowitzki's one legged fadeaway to that list?
DNW41 1 year ago
@DNW41 no, I don't think that's top 3.
frusionnn 1 year ago
@DNW41 may you read the comment I posted more clearly before asking that question? I mentioned three in my comment. meaning three of the toughest moves to defend. I didn't think Dirk's was top 3 (in my opinion)
frusionnn 1 year ago
@frusionnn
You forgot Jamal crawfords mocve i forgot its name
Jhoods2800 1 year ago
@Jhoods2800 Shake n Bake
MISAMEscobar 6 months ago
IMO, the best Center of ALL TIME!
knicks3085 2 years ago 3
@knicks3085 I wouldn't say the BEST center of all time. but top 5 centers of all time no doubt about it. my personal top 5 best centers of all time (not in order of best to worst): Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain (R.I.P.), Bill Russell, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shaquille O'Neal
frusionnn 1 year ago
@frusionnn good list bro I agree
MrGranthill33 1 year ago 2
@MrGranthill33 glad to hear that
frusionnn 1 year ago
dreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeamshaaaaaaake!
CutAzn 2 years ago 7
that dream shake is legit
ballersd555 2 years ago 9
rockets baby.....hakeem = one of the best, if not, THE best centers ever
urmomiscool100 2 years ago 31
the strength, the footwork, the balance, the shooting touch ... when he was n his prime i don't believe their was a more complete center (or maybe player!) 2 ever play this game ...
CostCordero 2 years ago 4
@CostCordero center maybe but his prime 90's? cmon MJ was the most complete player back then .........and NOW.
Ryzon28 1 year ago 2
the MOVEDREAM what a player boy!!!
dagodego 2 years ago
top 5 centers ever!
Number 1 IMO
xScratchAx 2 years ago 5
u forgot, he's one of the all-time best players ever!!!
infinitidoug 2 years ago
He's best with the possible exception of Kareem abdul jabbar.
Basch152 2 years ago
besides the sky hook what could Kareem do better than Hakeem? The proof is in old video clips.
Mr00LaLa 2 years ago 2
It doesn't matter if the sky hook was all kareem had over hakeem.
It was so unstoppable, he could just come down the court and do it every play.
Yeah the dream shake was one of the best moves in the history of the NBA.
But the sky hook was THE best move in the history of the NBA. It was just unstoppable.
Basch152 2 years ago
@Basch152
yes, its does matter.
dreamshake + hakeem's defense > skyhook + kareem's defense.
skyhook is only a bit above the dreamshake while hakeem's defense is a lot more than kareem's defense.
ran0001 2 years ago 3
@Basch152 nah best move had to be MJ's Fadeaway jumper cause it looked alot nicer..........skyhook was one of the ugliest shots ever LOL.........which is why no1 ever uses it these days.......imo i guess
Ryzon28 1 year ago
@Ryzon28 No one uses it because no one is over 7 foot, has monkey arms, and has a butlload of skill. Kareem's shot is very difficult. People who write him off just because he was tall are retarded.
persiandud 1 year ago
@persiandud i dont think any1 is writing him off at all ......i think alot just prefer dream shake over the ugly azzz skyhook lol peace dude
Ryzon28 1 year ago
@Ryzon28 Are you kidding? The skyhook is a thing of beauty. Whatever dude.
persiandud 11 months ago
@persiandud chit dude i think ur all alone on that one buddy lol whatever to u too pal.
Ryzon28 11 months ago
@Basch152 hakeem has actually blocked the sky hook so it's not unstoppable
ap4th3tic 1 year ago
@Basch152 it wasn't really unstoppable...it was unstoppable for most people. But Hakeem and Wilt have blocked it. So, it could be stopped. You just had to be extremely quick, and athletic, which Hakeem was
jerrykiller02 1 year ago 2
lol so u went right back to square one
nune44 1 year ago 2
@Basch152 Kareem played in the era with unatheltic players and weak defense.
angeredjudge 1 year ago
he was from that era so it just level the playing field.
Severosrighthook 1 year ago
weak defense!!??
Are you kidding? early 90's basketball unlike nowadays allowed contact, so the game was even violent.
How old are you? Have you seen enugh bball to make those statements? jeeez
adayala2006 1 year ago 2
@adayala2006 I wasn't talking about early 90's smartass. I was talking about when kareem first entered the league when he scored 100+ points during a game
angeredjudge 1 year ago
@angeredjudge Why do you have to make yourself look stupid? Kareem never came close to scoring 100 in a game...
LBM30 1 year ago
that wasnt kareem that was wilt chamberlain
aziansn4k3 1 year ago
@angeredjudge weak defense are you serious??? There were no zone defenses, there was handchecking...less calls. The 70s 80s 90s were the golden age of the nba. This zone defense shit is pathetic.
hameed 1 year ago 18
@Basch152 do you think Kareem's prime sky hook was more unstoppable than Jordan's prime fadeaway?
frusionnn 1 year ago
@frusionnn i think jordans prime ...hold on even when the dude was 40 his fadeaway was the most beautiful unstoppable shot EVER in my opinion anyway.lol peace.
Ryzon28 11 months ago
its called the dream shake cuz hakeem invented it right? cuz his nickname is THE DREAM
Lakers24pwnz 2 years ago
Yeah in a way, but it wasn't necessarily a move it was generalized to every move he did in the low post because all of his moves made the other guy seam like he was asleep (dreaming). Check out what he did to David Robinson in the playoffs in the '90s and you'll see what I mean
luv4shorty 2 years ago
but he is for real!
kulastheman 2 years ago 2
Memphis should hire the Dream as a coach so he can work with Thabeet like Ewing and Dwight Howard
nycblaze 2 years ago 3
That would probably work. The Dream worked with Yao Ming on his game, and Ewing helped Yao also.
SmoothMM 2 years ago
Hakeem come back! Houston needs you!!
HereCuzImBoard 2 years ago 2
It's too late. His train has come and gone. He'll surely be missed if not already. Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon --- 1994 and 1995 NBA Champion; also labeled "One of the 50 Greatest Players of All Time" back in 1996
SmoothMM 2 years ago 4
Even the PA anouncer shouted DREAM SHAAAAKE lol
liebasket 2 years ago 3
ha ha ha the knicks always will suck
bigcxc007 2 years ago
HaaaaKeeeeem!!!!
amdturion123 2 years ago 2
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174HB 2 years ago 3
i remember how i hate Hakeem, shit this man was was,, i don't know,, fuck!! awesome player!!
dangerardo80 2 years ago
i hated him because he beat my knicks!
liweiwu007 2 years ago
DREEAM SHAKKE!!
174HB 2 years ago
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Hakeem0lajuwon 2 years ago
dammmmmm the greatest ever
fanatic136 3 years ago
DREEEEEAAAAAM SHAAAAAAKE!!!!
NOZ88 3 years ago 9
Hakeem 0lajuwon
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BEAST!!!!!
Hakeem0lajuwon 2 years ago
DANG! What if Amare or Dwight Howard had that kinda footwork and moves in the post with their athletiscism...DEADLY!!!
louiswilliams3 3 years ago 3
that was nuts
hoopsdocter 3 years ago
i dont think any other center has ever has as good footwork as olajuwon
coolguy569 3 years ago 9
The most athletic and technically sound center the NBA has ever seen.
SrustinLim 3 years ago 10