Boeing 757-200 Touch and go Base Training

[pikidom59]

That's because you just have to admit that all boeing planes are legends !

[Juppie902]

12 airbus lovers have visited this video.

[mymbe430]

Good job. You were probably light and that aint always easy.. Better to have some balast back there sometimes. lol The -80 would drop like a rock empty. Congrats!

[mowburnt]

Nice. But damn my colour blindness!!! ;-)

[aky19832001]

I've watched this clip so many times, I have every moment memorized. Thanks for responses.

[airlineman2201]

I'd love to be a pilot when I'm older, how long does the training last for and is Thomas cook a good company to work for? Great video!!

[yisasakopaka]

the pilot has a casual sunday drive look

[alSation81]

@turwestonpilot no, we didn't

[747johnz]

Chief have you got the rest of the 5 T&Gs??? can you post them as well???

Nice landing by the way.

[cadence33333]

Quick Question Phantomskis......

How do you get into a position to start base training with an airline ? I know it sounds silly, But like what qualifications do you need ? And what previous training and licenses do you need ?

Thanks! Great video to !

[jasonlawley]

Nice! Must start my training soon. Did PPL 10 yrs ago at EGTK...

[fgiorgio]

Beautiful:) There are only minor differnceies vs my C150 T/G trainings:):)

Nice vid, man:)

[EGPK11]

what was the altitude when u were banking in for your final ?

[phantomskis]

@EGPK11

Standard base training circuit height is 1500ft AGL, so for Prestwick being 65ft elev we flown at 1600ft alt AMSL. You keep that on downwind leg and start to descend during the turn to finals to rollout at about 3nm from threshold which makes it up to cca 1000ft alt (900 AGL). Standard 3° glideslope or visual descent angle if you like equals to about 300ft per 1nm. So if you're 2nm out you should be at 600ft AGL, at 5nm about 1500ft, etc.

[EGPK11]

@phantomskis thanks :) been wondering that

[dorothy0863]

Cool

[hello1233280]

the 11 people who disliked this are jealous bastards from crappy airbus.

[TheTycoon1991]

when they landed and then TAKEOFFED i thoguht they taked from my landings in Flight Simulator XD

[MrAckebo1]

airline?

[phantomskis]

@MrAckebo1

Thomas Cook

[mntskier216]

so this is a new pilot learning to fly the 757??

[phantomskis]

@mntskier216

Yes, very new ;) It was about my 1st or 2nd landing ever in 757 and/or jet a/c ever.

[andytaggart]

Is that Prestwick?

[phantomskis]

@andytaggart

Yes

[FSXFS2OO4]

@turwestonpilot Lol i actully just did it :( XD

[00mustangdude]

@turwestonpilot *9 now, or they likely don't know what a plane is

[XavaMuzik]

I love the ILS :D

[bajesus666]

the only question i have, is WHY AM I NOT A PILOT YET???

[Tpz1446]

@bajesus666

Have you paid the $60,000 required for pilot training yet ? ;)

[bajesus666]

@Tpz1446 darn, my check bounced...oh well xD

[iscope100]

@powerade0125 wat ur talking about would be a missed approach or for lack of a better word a missed landing. Oh a go around. Because the pilot realizes tht he does not have enough runwaynto stop.

And for anyone out there that doesnt know what thise red and white lights are for on the side of the runway, they are to indicate correct altitude to land....... 4 red lights means too low 4 white lights means too highh and 2 red and 2 white means correct glide path to lanf

[iscope100]

Yhup im 13 and my ultimate goal is to fly the 737 or the a380. Ya i know that they are two seperate aircrafts but i do. And i allready know the basics on flying a commercial plane. Gear flaps speed brakes landing lights spoilers..... Etc but my fav is takeoff V1 rotate V2 positive rate gear up...... :)))

[Siriusstunna]

@iscope100 thats nowhere near the basics.

[willettgarrett]

why when people land planes and you make the back wheeles touch the runway first it always makes the camera shake?

[TheGlobalflight]

9 people missed the like button, those are the ones refusing to wear glasses....

[JohnP304]

When the gear has been raised, why is the undercarriage control lever moved to the mid position?

[phantomskis]

@JohnP304

To de-pressurize the hydraulics system lines of the landing gear. Saves it up doing extra work when it's not needed.

[ChrizRockster]

@phantomskis - I don't know why, but that's one of the most interesting questions and answers I've seen on YouTube in a while.

[mwargan]

His FPM was about 100-150 during his landing, thats really REALLY good!!

[1986abdulmeghji]

@mwargan FPM??I think you mean VSI...during the approach am guessing it must have been around 400-700FPM depending on his IAS..and yeah during the flare maybe around what u said..which is good..

[mwargan]

@1986abdulmeghji No, I did not mean: His Vertical speed indicator was about 100-150... I mean't: His Feet Per Minute (during touchdown) was 100-150 feet per miin. During approach it must have been beetween 700-900 FPM. If he was going 180 knots it was 900.

[1986abdulmeghji]

@mwargan Yes i know..but just wanted to clear it up,u cant say Feet per Minute,because that is a velocity,it can be horizontal or vertical(or a resultant of both)..i think the best term should be rate of descent..

[mwargan]

@Yes, I agree

[BruceCarbon]

Well that's FS11 :D

[a090006]

you guys(pilots )have an amazing job!!!

[AVIATIO]

Which assholes gave this video negative votes? Are people against flying or what?

[johnmunoz18]

WOW...thats gonna be me someday, im 14 with ambitions of being an airline pilot

[123pilot1231]

@johnmunoz18 I encourage you to go for it, thats when I started and I am flying now, it is a great job!

[johnmunoz18]

@123pilot1231 thanks, who do you fly for?

[123pilot1231]

@johnmunoz18 I currently fly for American Eagle, and I have put in an application for American Airlines and hope to get on there and my ultimate goal is to fly the 777! If you ever have any questions, feel free, you can message me or I can give you my email! Good Luck!

[johnmunoz18]

@123pilot1231 best of luck man, my life long goal is to fly the 777 too! but after regional, ill probably go for southwest or jetblue, but most likely delta, or whoever employs me

[Merlin5x5]

@123pilot1231

Could I ask you to identify V2 and V4 on a Boeing 757?

My guess is v2=160, and V4=400 on most boeings.

I know touch and goes are done faster than landings,

Are they closer to V2, or as I claim, V4?

Max cruise at abouts 550?

Thanks for your time!

Good luck with the Heavies!

[XxStalkerxSasquachXx]

@johnmunoz18 Same here!

[Powerade0125]

A touch and go I Believe is if they are landing if they don't have enough runway once they landed they can take off again

[djinfamousflo]

@Powerade0125

"Touch and go" is just what it sounds like.

Not if they don't have enough runway-- it's primarily done in training. And you can tell this guy's training. Look at how he keeps his eyes glued forward and both hands on the yoke.

Touch-and-go means you touch down and go again.

[djinfamousflo]

@Powerade0125

Also, if the pilot stops the plane on the runway and went again, it'd be called a stop-and-go.

[123pilot1231]

@Powerade0125 a touch and go is when you practice landings and clean up flaps and stabilize yourself, then takeoff again, and do as may as you would like

[falkowiegandt]

Two Airbus fans were so amazed by the Boeing 757 that they missed the "Like" button.

[tombarker94]

what airline do you fly for and how/were did you train?

[phantomskis]

@tombarker94

Flying for Thomas Cook Airlines UK, trained in Oxford Aviation Academy

[NATB100]

@phantomskis You fly for Thomas Cook? Nice!

I'm considering becoming a pilot when I'm older.

[Flyglobespan93]

Is this Glasgow Prestwick in Scotland?

[flyzapva]

@Flyglobespan93 Yes.

[Flyglobespan93]

@flyzapva ok cool

[boxingking7867]

wats da point of tuch n go

[flyzapva]

@boxingking7867 Training.

[jonomutiny]

@boxingking7867 It teached you how to spell properly, you retard!!!!

[VIXagora]

Fantastic!

[ThatKidKnows]

Omg is that @cveitch's voice at 1:20 lol XD

[vilnerk]

Notice how the captain raises the gear before anyone calls out 'positive rate'

[saevaroa]

@vilnerk Don't you ever question the captain. He has total authority aboard hehe :-)

[752jet]

great oppurtunity. what airline was this.

[tecnitronic]

In simulators it's always night :)

[323tiim]

what is the meaning with touch and go's?

[harold1127]

@323tiim A Touch & Go is basically landing then taking off immediatly with out stopping, something u would need to do if for example you couldn't stop.

[stevenreiss]

@323tiim

it means doing a normalspeed touchdown and then taking off again at climb power e.g. if you cannot brake or there is an object on the rwy at the last minute.

[britanniaairlines12]

What Airline is this?

Great video!

[flynabil]

God bless boeing!!!!

[JuliusEC145]

@flynabil Airbus as well :P

[manifestgtr]

is this after sim training? that may sound like a silly question but i would think that a guy would have to be pretty far along if a company is going to pay thousands an hour for a 757 to train in

[dizzidrummer95]

No prob mate (:

[dizzidrummer95]

Touch and Go`s are used to train approach and landing procedures. Not full stopping the aircraft saves wear and tear on the aircraft. Less brake usage, and it engine and fuel wear since you are not starting your take off roll from a full stop. (:

[finnpepe]

Great Cocpit!

[VOODOOF22]

I can tell you for a fact (having flown a B767) that, that is in fact the landing gear retracting. the hydroulics mixed with a little rubbing rubber :)

[Spy1228]

what was that sound on 2:10 :o ?

[womb0womb0]

i think it was just something in the cabin resonating when he decreased the throttle. or maybe something on the camera

[Spy1228]

i think it was the landing gear :o check the landing gear lights in 2:10

[danetrain0101]

That was the nose wheel coming up. Makes some noise sometimes.

[reemjay]

Landing gear bombay doors!

[Gamestar11]

Every pilot does that.

[SouthHrbrBlvd]

@NiesEnThom That's how you fly a plane.

[Tyler2908KU]

if you go to simulator websites that sell sim controls. saitek is pretty wellknown. they have a tension spring inside them to give you a "real feel", i know sportys carries them.

[shenron89]

yeah its harder to fly in FS since you dont have a feel of the airplane...its all based on looking. but, should a problem rise up you can always try again in FS :PPPPPP lol. in real life.... you can't change a tire up in the sky ;)

[apc467]

yea you can see so much more. In fs i have to be going down at like 3000fpm to see runway

[chris5812341234]

i hope no one was in that like passengers and they complained

[SuperSmiley24]

At 2:10 what was that sound?

[Cappadoccia04]

It sounds like the nose gear retracting into place.

[EftelFan]

Yeah, it probably is the nose gear retracting;)

[Ririaviation972]

Not smooth landing !

[agentfazexx]

Better than you could ever do... Ever hear of training?

[CAAAAAAAAT1]

wow ... " me " like it PPPP ;lol hhh

[Q8yGodfather]

i think the real much easier than flight simulator

[tcx23f]

your telling me a game is harder?

[Q8yGodfather]

i didn't try the real plane but maybe it's easier than the game

[nizz00]

u got to be kidding dude....

[bmxer193]

I honestly find it harder the land a 172 in FSX than in real life

[maxflyingcowboy]

especially with 5fps like i have lol

[Blink182009]

true

[0502780177]

Yes try Flight simulator... in real life you know the maths and environment but in game you cant feel the reality which makes it more difficult... if you are unsure have a go and try playing Flight simulator 2004 onwards...

[hargreavesjn123]

god i wanna be a pilot i am movin into year 9 2mozz so i will hav 2 work so hard now nd get rich before training so i might go 2 USA if its cheeper but my dad knew a man who went 2 train over in spain so i will ask him about what 2 do

[larrybueno]

NICE LANDING,VERY SOFT!!!

[GGGunitNextLevel]

Anyone who wants to be a pilot must be wealthy in order to pay the Pilot School..

[OriginalAtomicSheep]

not true

[GGGunitNextLevel]

How's that not true ? ATPL costs 47.000€ to +70.000€ !

In my country basic salary is 650€/month . A normal rent is around 250-300€. Add the montly normal expenses and make the calculations, its impossible to pay the Pilot School. You have to take a loan.

[OriginalAtomicSheep]

Hows that different to university degrees? You think everyone that goes to uni is rich?

[GGGunitNextLevel]

If you want to go to a private uni you definately must be wealthy

[OriginalAtomicSheep]

I don't know how unis work overseas but in aus everything is subsidised and sponsored even being a pilot, you can get sponsorship/cadetship which is a lot cheaper.

[GGGunitNextLevel]

Here if you want to go to a non private uni (free) you have to pass the exams in high school with very very good grades which is almost IMPOSSIBLE with our fucking training system.

[OriginalAtomicSheep]

thats just an excuse... if you think its any different anywhere else... you're mistaken. I've know ppl who went to shit schools and still kicked my arse in finaly year results. If you want to be a pilot in australia... or get a degree... you need to take out a loan if you cant pay the fees which is the case for the majority of students.

[RayAir1]

Yep, or end up to your neck in debt. I think just my private pilot license alone ran me at least $6,000.

Add commercial, instrument and M.E and your looking at $24,000. Oh shit, you want a type rating, add another $7-12,000. All that money just so you can start out making $20K/yr flying regional cause that's about all you are going to get and oh, that's after you spent 2 summers being a very low paid CFI (all of them are unless you are John or Martha).

[18vallancel]

We have exactly the same problem in the UK, only over here it's £60,000 for the commercial rating! I personally think it's worth it, otherwise I might train in the US.

[eroval2]

boeing 757 es el mismo de ed force one

[sparky0083]

long live Iron Maiden... LOL

[TimeTravellersGirl]

I've watched this type of training from the ground at Prestwick. Nice to see it from a different angle. Well done to the pilot and the cameraman!

[zyxelina]

Real.. it's pilot training.

[ke200]

lol, can you seriously not tell the difference between reality and simulation? Seriously?

[federalfsx]

lol :S i dont even think hes kidding!

[infinityjet]

I can very vaguely see where he might be coming from..at 1:19 it looks a tad like a sim - the runway that is

[AVIATIO]

@ke200

That is what happens when a person plays Flight Simulator 24/7/365.

[Tonny0909]

@ke200 : That's not a simulator,

[forces077]

how much time training do you get (in the real thing) - very expensive to do this with every pilot!? or do you fly along with a crew on a scheduled flight

[Boeing757basher07]

Boeing 757 Type Rating Programme Varies, Some Pilots will do there TR on the 757 which consists of 40 hours in the Simulator, And alot of theroy work on the aircraft Systems (About £6K ?) Then they will do there MCC as an addition to the TR on the 757, Then when they apply for lets say a 757 piloting job, Before they can fly for the airline, There passed through 'Base Training' in a real Company 757 and they are asessed on there flying/Communication Skills.

[gonzalux]

a little bit off the center of the runway... anyway, nice video. Thanks for sharing.

[oriondelta83]

and you could do better in your C 150? :)

[Psychopath2704]

:D Good Joke:D

[PILOTxOFxTHExSKY]

I have done base training at prestwick,

Nice T&G

[rowair1997]

what is the airline?

[Boeing757basher07]

Thomas Cook, You can see the captains laynard at the end of the video, Also TCX do alot of base training at prestwick

[gpang788]

Think hes got a stiff neck

[wbryce]

Yea JAA.

[slippysam1]

Nice, but what was that loud noise near the end? Seemed quite rough too however I wouldnt blame you if you were coming in rwy 13.

By the way.. base training? Is someone starting to operate out of PIK?

[flyerholland]

could it be the front landing wheel braking after it got up? because its still turning

[kevr83]

Yea it'll be the front wheels making that noise.

[wbryce]

Base training is done at the end of any aircraft type specific training. It completes your training on that aircraft generally. You do 6 circuits (take off and landings), then your next flight is line training with a more experienced captain with passengers. Long haul aircraft generally have "zero time" simulators which means no base training required. The thump at the end - remember the pilots sit right above the nose wheel. It generally makes a small thump, sometimes a large one! ;)

[uploader1010]

so this is included in the type rating ?

[wbryce]

yes, airlines commonly pay for your type rating when they employ you but a large percentage of low experience pilots self fund their type rating which normally includes base training with a customer airline (to the type rating school). Although it has been known for schools to advertise type ratings without base training costs included to make the price more attractive but you still need to pay the 4k or so for your T+G's otherwise you can't get your license stamped.

[uploader1010]

Oh thank you.

we are talking about JAA right ?

[spitfir3ace]

no they don't :P - perhaps BA and Flybe if you're lucky (bonds) but no one else!

[Boeing757basher07]

Nice to see someone on youtube who knows what there on about :)

[RexBanner1980]

Not quite, BMI pay for your TR as well with no bond. There's quite a few airlines (like flybe) that will pay for the TR and who will bond you as recompense. If you get the chance of a bond go for it because legally they aren't worth the paper they are written on. EU restraint of trade laws and all that.

[oriondelta83]

cool thanks. do they do takes off at busy airports as well ?