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  • oh and for all those people out there thinking that people with epilepsy cant lead a normal life...depends what type of epilepsy u have...thank god for me, mine was pretty mild, which means there isnt a single thing i can think of which i have had to avoid...eg i go on all the rides in theme parks, swimming, sports, driving, done it all and am now a qualified teacher with 2 healthy kids :D so come on ,,, chin up!!

  • yeh i suffer from epilepsy..since about age 12..now 27yrs old and finally been told i can come off the drugs...dead scared tho..as now that im drug free i dont want the friggin fits to come bak..hope the damn thing has left me for good!! still wana know why i got it tho..really frustrates me...things with no explanation..urrgghh!?!?!?!

  • ummm quick question. can epilepsy cause mental retardation?

  • I hate the person keep putting storys about the bible being correct instead of posting a real comment and i am talking about @wichitarick even if it came from different accounts stop spamming

  • @KaiserVadin ????? First ,I just saw this so forgive a slow response. You must have me confused with someone else? I have only posted my own personal feelings or knowledge on any thing ,especially pertaining to E. In fact I would not even know where to look in that book for anything about having szs. I do however have a lot of personal insight into this & stay updated through med. journals,neuro. blogs,and numerous E blogs, Confusing me with someone else. Have a great day. Rick

  • @paddyward1994 i am not a doctor but it sounds like panic seizures

  • I had a brain injury resulting in me having seizutres,these are well controlled unless I forget to take my medication the night before.

  • @mistaben2k I think people with seizures should only have to pay $1 for there meds ..

  • Seriously? The Bible says that people with epilepsy have demons in them?????????????? K, that's just creepy. =/ I have seizures and sure, they're not fun, but I have a strong faith in God and I ask Jesus to give me strength all the time when I simply can't handle anymore. I have never been able to read the entire Bible or even listen to it on an audio book because I have short term memory loss AND a major attention span issue, but I can't imagine those words being of quotes of Jesus or God. :(

  • @SeizureTalk That's cuz the Bible does NOT say epilepsy is caused by an internal devil. Epilepsy is not a Mental illness. Back in the days people with Mental illness was thought to be demon possessed. And they'll do exorcisms and other things to try and take the demon out of them. But Epilepsy is NOT a Mental illness, its a Neurological disorder. Even if it was a mental illness, people with mental or other types of illness are not caused by demonic spirits/possession.

  • @SeizureTalk Just remember dont belive everything you read or hear. Some ppl like to flip the scripts of the Bible. and say whats actually not true. Usually comes from those who dont read the Bible at all.

  • STUPID ADDS Before every freaken video....

  • @mfcardio ABP

  • Made a commitment to the positive, remember?

    A.m. Confusion? BUT no contusion.

    Ringing loud,intense,IMMENSE, need it to sing ,not ring maybe rhyme just this time.

    No gain with pain,I can keep it away ,it becomes fun,in an odd state of mind,if it is hard to find!

    So many times before ,so much time on the floor,always kept a smile,never ever been its whore.

  • Feelings are fast ,fleeting,like a race with no definite pace,so many, to try an explain seems almost a waste.

    Am so thankful,grateful ? Would be so much easier with Hate! But its to late.Just could not wait.

    Will walk today ,even tomorrow ,but the next who's to say ? will it stay?will it go away?

    At any rate we only roll the dice with Fate!

    Who is to say that they hold the keys to the golden Gate!

    Feeling it! Rick

  • Am I surviving? What can I keep? what can I take?until we meet!"IT" found me again,tears are cold?blood tastes sweet,sweat is hot,Ringing is LOUD in red ,purple,BRIGHT,pain is over there for now,I push IT pulls,I pull IT BREAKS!Broken I stand when I can,I...T DOES NOT OWN ME! smiled and turned,IT won't show itself,it just likes to BURN ,vessels rippling down my spine,Is IT today? NO,NO WAY! a pill for the chill?a shot when ITS hot?so simple it seems but IT'S not,vague,blind,,IT always stays LIFE

  • every comment here is like 4000 word long bahahahha! if u come across anyone with epilepsy. and the start to have a fit. dont touch them. this dude in this clip lied. they can be violent. theres this story of a man having a fit whilst walking still in a straight line. a guy got in his way thought he was tring to fight him and the dude with epilepsy was smaller than him but grabbed the bigger dude threw him a meter in the air and he had to go to hospital dont mess with people with it DONT!. thanx

  • @jamie151994 Some truth to that ,the hardest I have ever been hit in my life,including boxing, was by myself while in a long g-mal sz. Hit my wife in the back and caused permanent damage, bit so hard I broke my jaw and dentures, broke fingers,pulled seat belt so hard I cut my hands ,Also have permanent damage to spine,hips,neck,and shoulders from severe dislocations over a long period, protect the person from hitting themselves though or hitting their head is key. protect them pls. Rick

  • I have epilepsy but I have not had a full on seizure since i was 7!

  • But my dad doesnt hav epilepsy so the tree part is right.

  • I got Aspergers from my dad and I got epilepsy from my dads mum.

  • To explain seems senseless, but was able to "feel" the sounds the senses so ENHANCED that the waves became focused confusion. The edge is an odd place ? a date,time SURE, will say goodbye and check in no sweat and lol at "IT" But the unknown is my demon now ? losing time in lg. blocks is something we joke with UNTIL it happens.Is like having a stroke but then recovering 100's of times."IT" pushing me is why I may be acting diff. "IT" is close lol no sweat ,BUT when ? Rick

  • YOU STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM ME YA HEAR" Thanks I awoke suddenly 2.a.m.? pain? confusion? broken? Medication SUCKS I'd rather be an addict again.breathing color,feeling in reds and yellows,taste in silver like metal hearing ,blue gray,fading, I would like to SCREAM but then others will know,burning? cold?afraid to lay down ,haunting dreams,can only smile with eyes closed,pushing,pulling, from the inside,I am pissing "IT" off,clear but numb,a fishbowl,sleep while standing? HURT? NO, LIFE Rick

  • @wichitarick You got that right! I'm sick of my kids telling me I can't smoke the real medicine, and keeping me on constant phenos and lorazepam and diazepam and neurontin... At least in this country I could smoke all I want, but the stupid snobs in my family don't like it...

  • lol..its existed for millions of years?? ppl havent been around for millions of years...

  • @egervey119

    Animals get epilepsy too.

  • I never knew that epilepsy was considered a curse.

  • @simmons299 Epilepsy is NOT a curse in any way. The number of people who view it this way has drastically decreased in recent years because of the increased awareness and modern research. This was mainly an ancient belief. He is correct in saying that epilepsy is nothing more than medical condition.

  • A VERY important distinction: the Bible never declares epilepsy to caused by an "internal devil". My assumption is that he came to that conclusion from stories in the Gospels of Jesus healing those possessed by demons. They did show behavior that looked similar to a seizure but it is not related to epilepsy whatsoever. I am both a firm Christian and an epileptic. It has been proven that my seizures are coming from a scarred tissue in my temporal lobe- NOT an internal devil.

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  • my boyfriend died of this...his sister has it too. :(

  • i like this video , I have epilepsy en I make a speech for school about it, and is this video are much information about it , only there aren''t subtitels :(

  • Truth # 10, tell that to Ian Curtis 

  • can i just smoke some weed and everything be allright? I'm sick and tired of taking these prescription pills for my epilepsy ya know???

  • @Stonersara "weed" can be used for pain for people who have MS or pain from chemotherapy, but I haven't heard that weed reduces seizure activity.

  • @stubs96 When I was 14 or so, my life was a mess with undiagnised TL eps, even though I was the best student in school, I was also the big warmonger... when I got some weed, I suddenly thought "oh, boy, the dizzy spells are gone!" I started studying like crazy, smoked every day, and got a college scholarship to the US at 15!

  • I can still be pretty violent sometimes.. Lol

  • the devil is inside me!! O_O xDDD

  • can someone tells me where in the bible talks about epilepsy ?

  • @THESUPREM0 it (among other scriptures) can only describe what they look like. Effects, that is. Other than that, it is nowhere. Btw, religious nuts/freaks/die-hards are scared shitless of it since it is too scary for 'em. They only like the pretty/easy life. To be fair & balanced, that's all they know. AKA: bullshit

  • Fuck the bible !

  • @PeperoBoy Xactly! Can't agree with you more.  ;)

  • @PeperoBoy the Bible does not say that, they misinterpret something they read.

  • 1:34 is priceless.

  • NOO LIER I M NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO RIDE A BIKE NOW WITH EPILEPSY!!!

    But ty anyway!

  • @Person600360 Likewise. 42 years & doesn't look like it will stop anytime soon.

  • @davemelnick , Hi....., was just wondering.....are you on any kind of disablity pension?. and...how long did it take you to get on it?. Me...(Brad) haven't gone any kind yet!, but....can't work, drive...due to the eplipsy. And...I don't know where you ive, but..here in "CANADA", alot harder to qualify for a pension, here?. Thanks...for your time.

  • @TheBradking69 I don't have a disability pension. My AEDs, Keppra & Vimpat are doing great for me now; I just wish that they came out decades ago. I haven't driven since 18 (only 30 minutes or so). I used to live in Canada (Calgary). However, that was 30 years ago.

  • normal lives...aside from the fact that your license is revoked

  • It's quite obvious that everyone making fun of seizures is only doing so because they've never seen one or had one themselves. I thought the same until I had my first one. All I'm gonna say to you people is if you wake up in a hospital with a IV in your arm next to people that care about you and thought you were dying, it might change your perspective a little.

  • @SnizzFizz Good point. Only, there is the obvious, unfortunate fact that a good deal of one's life with any neuro condition is simply too scary for the family members (of all age groups). Thus, the epileptic, etc. will be "the black sheep" of his or her family as long as one has it. ;( . Just speaking fr/ 1st-hand xperience.

  • @davemelnick I'm not a black sheep just because I have epilepsy, why would having a neurological condition make my family members wanna not be around me? That's pretty fucked up! My parents wanna help me MORE when I have seizures, sure it scares them a whole hell of a lot each time, but it doesn't make me a black sheep to them or anyone else in my life... Let me ask you this, are you an epileptic in your family, and do they treat you like a black sheep because of it?

  • @SnizzFizz Agree I was born with elipesy went through a bunch of doctors and medications hoping eventually seizures would go away and they didnt. When I was 16 I met a doctor who realized nothing was working and told me about brain surgery. Went through a week of tests and they caught what part of my brain caused the seizues so I was a canadite for surgey. Had the surgery and 7 years later Im 22 years old and havnt had any seizures since.

  • Could some epileptic patients have seizures because of the failure of the limbic system. I have epilepsy and the medicine is causing side effects, but I know that I also have tinnitus.

  • Im an epileptic :P I call myselfthat

  • I have Seizures and it suck's fore me it's not flashing lights or load sounds and some time's it is I have had EEG's and came back ok but still have thim from time to time It's not fun it suck's to have I take my med's for it and can't drive a care no more

  • @rjfox1980

    I have the same problem rjfox1980 and I can not drive anymore either. On top of this my medicine is so high I can barely afford it anymore. 

  • @duvexy

    if your medication can prevent you from having seizures for a year then you will be allowed to drive. if you write 'Epileptic' in the 'Medical Conditions' field of an application then they will look into your background and if you have not had a seizure for over a year then they will consider you for being able to drive again.

  • GRRURBRB RLURBRURBG ABLURRRRRB AIFNAWFJANW WFABLURRRRRRGHHGH FURRRRRRRUKCCCCCC

    Sorry bout that guys. Uhh 80s?

  • Is there anything like this with dog epilepsy? some videos informing would be good

  • Can damage to the frontal lobe cause seizures of epilepsy

  • @mojojojo06666 YES! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, IF YOU RIDE A BIKE WEAR A HELMET!! THIS IS HITTING ME 10 YEARS LATER!!

  • @ScorpioJJ420 Same. i was involved in a car accident

  • @mojojojo06666 The Partial's ( brain farts ) I can live with, the Tonic-Clonic's are some of the worst pain my body has ever been in. Being at risk for SUDEP because I have night seizure's. Waking up in pain, not knowing whats going on. Lot's of fun. Med's help, but not a cure.

  • @ScorpioJJ420 Yeah i had them aswell, i woke up all disorientated and my tongue was chewed from the seizure. The last one i had was the most serious out of the lot. Yeah the meds are good. still, sometimes i worry about it, Is it doing enough? the way i feel from time to time, like something may happy. I'm taking those epilem chrono tabs. maybe we'll talk in private ;)

  • @ScorpioJJ420 They mainly happen at night now. They usually make my dreams livlier. When I wake up I see (& feel) that they were a seizure (or more).

  • @mojojojo06666

    any trauma to the brain where the tissue has been damaged can cause epilepsy.

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  • what kind of sezur causes the face to change.

  • @ajadam66

    any seizure involving convulsions and possible loss of consiousness can cause the face to change. usually blue aroung the lips, eyes rolling backwards and grinding of the teeth.

  • Send him back to school

    I have it. he has lost the plot

  • im christian, but the number 9 fact about epilepsy is stupid. an internal devil? so the bible is trying to say that i have an internal devil? that's the most bull i have ever heard in my life. i live a good life with my family, and im loving every minute of it.

    also, i had a friend, who died while having a seizure in the shower. he fell right on the plunger that you pull up to make the shower head activate, and it impaled his head.

  • I may have believed you a few years back, but certain experiences lead me to believe that certain myths may not be completely untrue.

    Say for example that possession did/does exist and that people who experience it act in a way similar to epilepsy sufferers.

    Possession implies dead beings/people occupying the brain of a living person, not permanently, but every so often, passing through so to speak.

    The movie Being John Malvovik covers this topic and he behaves VERY similar to one in siezure.

  • @imperialpod I've tried to figure this out as well because I see certain things that are intune with things I never encountered before I got the gods book, but they developed from shadows into beings, one happens when I'm awake, the ohter when I'm asleep. I think that whenever ur out of balance, it alters the channel ur on. that stuff is happening but we aren't understanding it,not of us.

  • If the occupier is a complete asshole, then that person would be described as a demon, after all, demons have got to be somebody, just not nice somebodies.

    Given our lack of real knowledge on the human brain and given the experiences of MANY people in regards afterlife experiences, conscious dreaming etc, I would not be surprised if a lot of seizures ARE caused by external/internal manipulation.

    The sooner we can see and hear inside the brain the better.Thats when things will get interesting.

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  • i was born with epilepsy because of scar tissue on my temporal lobes, how is that man made? I will have it my whole life? true it may be reduced by medicine but the side effects are worse than the epilepsy itself.

  • @mohawkj99

    sorry to hear that pal. in some cases with medication used to treat epilepsy and anti-convulsants the constant use of one type of medicine will likely cause more and more side effects more frequently and they can get worse over time. try talking to your doctor to change your medication to a similar brand. maybe that can help with the harse side effects.

  • Did you know due to allot of illnesses cause allot of misery for humans suffer diseases that are man made like Epilepsy caused by bad family genes from the person. Even though allot of you people out there don't know for sure epilepsy is man made illness and there are many ways of causing this illness. 1, loss of blood, 2, poor food intake lead the brain to pump less blood to the brain to provide energy to sustain the body. But luckily for medical science there will a cure in the future.

  • I have a friend that died Sunday. He was driving and had a seizures and got into a bad car accident. I'm trying to make peace with his pasting it's just very hard. any answers

  • amen

  • Am I the only one who finds these advertisements at the bottom of the video window incredibly obnoxious?

  • why not put AVR for the spinal cord? it regulates abnormal electricity.

  • Where does the Bible say that epilepsy is an internal Devil?.

  • Brain, spinal nervous system is connected. Percentage of cellular activity of the brain will be the same percentage of cellular activity of the body. When the atlas has shifted in any number of positions it will cause a log jam of information from brain to body. This log jam of information causes the body over time to become misshapen from a healthy shape it had when it was young. I have seen some misshaped young bodies, some as young a 20 that had a spine as bad as a 90 year old.

  • When infants are evaluated and, treated By U, C, S only care doctors. Like those that are taught at Sherman College and, monitored periodically through out life this epilepsy that you see and, many other problems of mind and, body will be a thing of the past. We will have stronger athletes. We will have smarter stronger humans, there will be less violence because the brain will be working better. Addictive habits s will be less. The numbers of thugs that can be improved are many.

  • Hi all,

    I am doing research on Epilepsy and giving a talk on my findings in a few weeks.

    I am looking for a short video clip with a bunch of episodes of seizures. Does anyone know any videos? Thanks

  • search grandmal seizures and absence seizures

  • "although epilepsy has effected people for millions of years"

    Didn't know humans have been on the earth for millions of years.

  • STFU

  • if u study medicine, like me, u will understant why docs use this type of terms

  • This video seems really patronizing, as I'm an epileptic. There, I said it. It's like when the UK Education branch (I'm sure it has a name), decided that 'brainstorming' was offensive to epileptics (again!) and so it shouldn't be used in schools. I remember years ago being told by a teacher that she was drawing a 'power shower' on the board. There was a poll on a site, Epilepsy Action I think, and 97% said it was dumb. I think it should be down to the subject to decide what they find offensive.

  • I have had epilepsy for over 10 years. It has messed up my memory but I am about to finish my 3rd college degree. I had to have a shoulder replaced because I fell off the bed. I have found that sometimes I can stop them if I try and "think" really hard. I have an aura that comes on about 30 minutes before, so my most usual way to stop them is a straight dose of a benzodiazepine (valium for me) with the keppra and depakote. I dont care about PC terms either, im an epileptic, whatever.

  • dude im realy sorry that u got epilepsy for 10 years it realy suck 2 if it makes u feel bether: i have epilepsy

  • use this, epileptics are better in bed, haha. we are thou

  • As an epileptic, i don't not want people calling me "a person with a seizure disorder" Fuck that politically correct bullshit!

    Just call me epileptic.

  • Likewise. I'm fine with being called epileptic. The only terminology I'm not particularly fond of is"fits", I much prefer the correct term of "seizures".

  • @AnonymousDiv0 - I call them a worse word than fits, in spanish slang, and get a good laugh out of it. Specially when I hear stories, like the Colombian farm worker who woke up 2 days after the seizure during his funeral and everyone ran away like crazy from the 'walking dead' guy! LOLLOL

  • @lzcracker me to

  • @lzcracker

    haha word!

  • @lzcracker I'll take being called an epileptic, too, better than that crap. And the Bible doesn't call it an internal demon- it says its s demon that smacks your face, like slapping you, and makes you falls! Thats in 2Cor12:7 and on from there. As for the violence, crap, even the big anti-mutiny cops here stay away from me- I don't hit anyone anymore because I won't take getting locked up again... I'd rather smash my head anywhere than be locked up in a stupid hospital.. if it ain't JHU, no way!

  • @lzcracker I'll take being called an epileptic, too, better than that crap. And the Bible doesn't call it an internal demon- it says its s demon that smacks your face, like slapping you, and makes you fall! Thats in 2Cor12:7 and on from there. As for the violence, crap, even the big anti-mutiny cops here stay away from me- I don't hit anyone anymore because I won't take getting locked up again... I'd rather smash my head anywhere than be locked up in a stupid hospital.. if it ain't JHU, no way!

  • Im EPILEPTIC. I have epilepsy. Im not going to water it down to all that.Why does it matter. It doesn't offend me if you say I am epileptic, thats fine?? This guy is just messed up

  • I don`t have problems with the term "epileptic"

    nice video though, but what did he say: "even the bible says, epilepsy is caused by an internal death"

    hu?someone can explain it to me?

  • he actually said "Even the Bible say epilepsy is caused by an internal devil" to explain truth #9 about Epilepsy not being a curse or cause by other supersticious believes. it a medical, brain condition.

  • Exactly. The term "epileptic" is derogatory and the condition can be called a disease or brain injury, all depending on the person and situations. After living with it for 34 years I've tried almost everything and I thank God for the patience and persistence he has gifted me with.

    Living with epilepsy is no simple task. There are too many stories I can tell to continue.

  • The below was in response to what RottingintheMidwest said.

  • Bible DOES NOT declare that epilepsy is caused by "internal devil". LOL...I am amazed how this doctor can be so superficial.

  • he says it does, you say it doesn't, neither of you display proof for your words, so as of right now i dont give a shit.. its a man made book.. men lie, thats all i know.

  • Look..he probably refers to exorcism, which is nothing near or comparable with epilepsy. I know....I have a brother who suffers from severe epilepsy for 20 years now.

  • is this guy even a real doctor or does he even actually know anything about seizures/epilepsy?

  • I think you should go back to medical school ,because there isn't one word of truth in what you are explaining ! I know this because I have epilepsy & had many grand mal seizures I have no idea what i did in high school ,my math has gone to shit ,I even have to read a sentence more than once until I understand it. My life is hell I am tired ,depressed ,& have a wonderful feeling to end it all. now can you say I am happy ,content ,cured ?

  • Hell yes. I totally agree with you buddy.

    I was enlisted in our United States Marine Corps. Its the only thing I've ever wanted to do. and then two fucking weeks from my ship date I collapse and have a tonic clonic seizure. Epilepsy ruined my life. and the fucking pills that give you depression and suicidal tendancies dont help one damn bit. I hate the damn mental defect.

  • @cptsulich That's one of my hardest parts to deal with. The after effects of the AEDs, that is. Namely, trying to make anyone that fears me understand what they do.

  • fuck "seizure disorder." i was initially told by my doctor I had seizure disorder and it took me a few years to realize this was just a happy pc term for epilepsy. I have epilepsy - I AM epileptic, and have no shame in it.

  • preach it! If people ask about my condition, I'm epileptic, not a "a person with a seizure disorder." I don't think, and never have thought, that epileptic was bad. That's just one more thing for people to bitch about if you ask me. I have epilepsy, so what? If you have a problem with that, fuck you.

  • xwhitedemon (2 weeks ago)

    Does anyone else find this video unintentionally hilarious?

    NO! This is not funny at all... You obviously have never had someone in your family with it, youve never had to deal with it... watif ur mom had epilepsy? n she couldnt remember the past ten yrs of her life.... saw you become something and couldnt remember being proud cus of it. it sux. But u probably aint $h!+ n ur probably not gonna b $h!+ if u think this is funny. Ur a D!*k. The world dont need u.

  • @GhettoDoughBoy i actually have epilepsy and i laugh about it now with my friends so im in the same boat with him

  • @GhettoDoughBoy

    WORD!

  • @GhettoDoughBoy xwhitedemon you're such a fucking piece of shit dude, this stuff ain't funny man, seriously

  • me personally i dont think that quite often they go away i think it can b controlled and the more seizures you have it starts to eat at the brain lets pray for a cure

  • i was diagnosed with epilepsy at the age of 19 im 33 now and still was having them until i found a miracle doctor in newyork and i stay in chicago he finally gave me the tests i needed and found the right medication for me which was lamital and keppra i have been seizure free for almost 2 years but my IQ as went down and i cant remember anything i was depressed often i use to take depakote,dilantin, and i continue to have seizures then i started having them in my sleep once on the depakote

  • brain damage and intelligence are both curious points. I have been on a lot of medications (a lot). I have also watched my "IQ" go up and down like a yo yo. Still it is a bit better than seizures. I can't remember the last 10 years of my life - thats cool.

  • Does anyone else find this video unintentionally hilarious?

  • millions of years hahahah that knocked out all credibility of this video

  • But stretch out your hand and strike his flesh and bones, and he will surely curse you to your face." The LORD said to Satan, "Very well, then, he is in your hands; but you must spare his life." So Satan went out from the presence of the LORD and afflicted Job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the top of his head. NIV

    * Matt 12:22-28 Then they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and mute, and Jesus healed him, so that he could both talk and see.

  • All the people were astonished and said, "Could this be the Son of David?" But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, "It is only by Beelzebub, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons." Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, will be your judges.

  • But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. NIV. Jesus makes it clear that a kingdom divided against itself will be ruined. The devil is not in the healing business. "

  • These quotes means that not every sickness is from the devil, and it also means the devil or God, can induce sickness or illness, since He created everything, and His creation seemed natural, then any sickness is also explained naturally, which for a Doc like you, means that anything explained by science cannot be from God, or the devil (by God's consent)

    Don't spam your agenda Doc! That was a poor shot!

  • where in the bible does it say epilepsy is caused by an internal devil

  • Therez one thing we need to understand about the times in which the Bible was written when it relates to that particular issue. A boy had a seizure and Jesus cured him.Jesus didnt say that boy had a demon.Its the writer of that Gospel who might not have known that that was just a seizure.Its no fault of theirs really. Its just the times.Heck people thought of seizures as demons even till just decades ago. There's still some people even now!

  • but it just goes to show, what else is a lie in that bible? What else is exaggerated, pulled from what really happened? Fact is, the Bible was made by Man. The human race lies and exaggerates every day. This is why i find it hard to understand why people would go through a man made book full of contridictions/lies/sexism to get to god.. "shrugs" i unno, why not just believe there is a creator and thats it..

  • i think your exaggerating.

    why should we believe anything if it was made by man?

    maybe you should do some real research for yourself instead of just thinking that you have debunked christianity.

    i know of some apostles that put there life on it.

  • We don't know of any form of information that *wasn't* made by humans. The Bible? Written by primitive human tribes. The closest claim you can possibly have is that it was "divinely inspired", but it was written by men - not gods. So, ask yourself, why should we believe anything written by primitive barbarians thousands of years ago, even if the primitive people genuinely thought it to be true?

  • ur kinda making my argument by saying why should we believe anything more than 2 thousand years ago? which is rediculous.

  • Im sure youve read the bible so i dont know why you would think cave men wrote it. When did the human race get out of this "barbarian" stage? when when cars were invented? because there were already large governments such as the roman empire.

  • The original fables which would be integrated to the Bible were contemporary with primitive civilisations, such as ancient Egypt. The reason I call its authors barbarians is because the events described in the OT are quite barbaric - things such as the wanton slaughter of men, women, and children whenever Yaweh's "chosen people" came across somebody they didn't like. The contents of the Old Testament are really quite horrific.

  • Even if primitive tribes did write a library of 66 books by 40 authors. it would be a better case for having it be "divinely inspired" because of all of the prophecies of historical events and i dont think the 300 or so prohpecies jesus fulfilled himself were just by chance.

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  • Thats a stupid dumbass thing to say....if you dont believe, then dont. But dont always spend your life trying to offend those that have beliefs...Well u have some attention now so go celebrate. Dumb shit!

  • Didn't you see the quote things? Dumbass.

  • The "quote things" dont change a thing. i still stand by what i said......let this be a QnA on epileplsy. Not a cussout from one ignorant dumbshit to another, like all youtube forums have become.....but hey thanx for the mature chat up....

  • Next time, do it on IRC lol

  • So if the writer of that gospel misinterpreted that specific moment, then he could've made a lot of other misinterpretations. Maybe the bible is full of them!!!

  • Yup...maybe it is. Maybe the walking on water event was Christ surfing, or water to wine was a lie alltogether...or He didnt die at all, or died but never rose,or maybe......we could go on for good....but then again, what is faith without belief?Its a choice!You believe or you dont...!Its just that simple....YOU dont!I have no problem with you...but I believe he does...Now please, if possible, can we continue discussing EPILEPSY?just a question.....

  • Stupid Christian fucks.

  • Yup....and Christ loves you too....funny thing is...you could throw ur worst insults...and we'l be here way past your grand children....dig deep dude...real deep...find your worst insults..see just how much damage they'l do....:-DDDDD i feel for you....i really do :-DDDDDD

  • @ngaiflex Yea...the numerous contradictions & stupidity of all the writings in it easily begs 1 to at least wonder why a holy & divine book is "not working on all cylinders". However, the religious books work best in astronomy only. Not literally.

  • My bro has had seizures since he was 13.He's 31 now.After a surgery to remove a tumor,he's had just 3 in 4 yrs.We are thankful for that.but i wana ask a question,if anyone has an answer.When he used to have regular seizures,he would reflexively ask us to apply pressure around the part of his arm where the seizure began.Funny thing is,if pressure was applied,early enough and at the right point,the seizure would not spread beyond that part and he'd be fine!Any explanations why?

  • the pressure might have triggered something in his mind that stopped the seizure, cause some people can stop the seizure on their own, simple mind over matter type of thing, him well he might have just needed alitle help

  • Really?I also wonder how it is he knew that this action would stop the seizure.That has never stopped puzzling me.Because it worked so well,it was almost as if, all he needed was someone who knew what to do and he'd be fine.Anyway thanks.

  • I dont know, maybe its a gut feeling, i know i cant do it that with my seizures, i just have had some of the kids at camp tell me they've been able to do it so we'll just have to take their word for it

  • i have been having seizures for the past 10 yrs. i'm on meds to control them but never have been able to get off them...dont know what this guy's talkin about..i get seizures when i'm really tired, so normally i'm in bed when it happens..

  • Thank you, Dr. Fisher, for speaking with such integrity on behalf of individuals with epilepsy.

  • I got diagnosed in the 70's and got sexually fixed so I can't have kids. Theydidn't need my consent as I was under-age. Just a signature from my parents to do whatever's necessary. I'm also classed Unemployable for Life (since it's not something that just goes away after a while) claiming the safety of thousands is more important than the pleasures of just one. Same reason why I cannot drive, and am not allowed to marry. And yet everyone figures they know what's best for us?

  • Hi, my girlfriend has complex partial variation (5-7times a wk)and also sometimes has problems finding the right words.

    she had had it for 20 years and tried nearly everything drugwise, thinking about trying the katognic diet,anyone here tried that? seems pretty tough to follow but you never know!

    thanks and good luck

  • My husband smacks his lips then starts laughing at nothing. It is so strange. I on the other hand get scared and cry out. I have been told I normally say " Oh God no no no no no... over and over. We both were in the Military. No known problems before that.

    Could it be Vaccination related. Who knows.

  • I always suspected that all the 'devil possessed' people back in the old times were just epileptic. Even the bible backs this. I've never been a fan of that book.

  • Illumistream, you've put a video up dedicated to helping people better understand epilepsy yet in your info bit at the top right hand side you refer to epilepsy as a disease, is epilepsy classed as a disease? I'd like to think not but google wasn't much help with this question. Maybe someone here can clarify this for me.

  • I'm not a medical expert but I don't think it classes as a disease or even an illness, just a disorder.

    Mine is caused by a brain tumor so I've described the epilepsy as a 'symptom' before.

  • To those who have this conditionI can improve you quality of life by 60 t0 80 percent talk to me, it I have testimonials to what I have achieved? by trail and error!

    ROGER VALENTINE Australia

  • hell yeah xD

  • voglio dire solo una cosa chi a l'epilessia e Rok NO a l'EPILESSIA E all'ignoranza e alla discriminazione ai giorni nostri l'abbiamo pagata cara noi grazie.