Money & Youtube: The Giant Elephant In The Room

[MGovier6]

@iAreRenHo3k yeah that's very true but also telling somebody to like your video could just be because you want more people to watch the content you worked hard on. But generally, al very valid points. I'd tell you to check out my channel but you don't like COD and you don't play and sports game so I don't think you'd like it. Lol. Stay Lavish.

[aszewc91306]

Dork, get a job

[thekillermike22]

LOL at the beginning of this vid u talk about how you dont like to mislead your subs. Well ron is opposite of what you said and has done a LOT for smaller channels and ive heard him say do youtube but flr the right reasons. Talk about a misleading person, just take this bs down

[Theiosac]

sometimes i kinda think you couldnt make money out of youtube

[smallatom2]

u should 1v1 ron

[OoohPieaceACandy]

@smallatom2 this kid would get Rape3d by Ron

[smallatom2]

@OoohPieaceACandy naw, i dont think so, i think he could take a guy with a 12kd

[OoohPieaceACandy]

@smallatom2 Rons k/d isnt 12 maybe on one account that has like 1000 kills but ron is on my friends list and he has like a 3.8 on mw3 right now but on black ops it was around an 8

[smallatom2]

@OoohPieaceACandy his super try hard account he has a 12kd on bo

[OoohPieaceACandy]

@smallatom2 yeah like i said on an account that doesnt have alot of kills on it lol HE got really lucky to get that 12 k/d

[smallatom2]

@OoohPieaceACandy i think its cuz he doesnt care on his 8 kd account, but u should ask him if hes really ur friend

[OoohPieaceACandy]

@smallatom2 his 8 k/d account is RONALDINHo1224

[smallatom2]

@OoohPieaceACandy yeah i know he usually doesnt care tho...

[therapeonator14]

Before you go and start talking shit about him just cuz your jealous get your facts straight because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

[Drakerot]

@therapeonator14 Your late to the party there bud, ren already posted an apology

[BuddhaBeatz25]

It's kind of funny how many people disagree with this guy but his like to dislike ratio is pretty good. Huh? I guess it means that your commentary is good but unfortunately no one agrees with what you're saying

[iAreRenHo3k]

@BuddhaBeatz25 The like to dislike ratio was 103/0 on this vid before Ron started spraying PMS blood everywhere and linked his subscribers to it.

[imthebest246]

The problem is uhh that uhh u obviously uhh didn't uhh watch the uhh video uhh or uhh hear what uhh ron uhh said.

[LlVlFAO]

i do not agree with you.

[ecyber2cool]

Your bullshit makes my ears bleed...

[multistyles]

Hey i love your videos homie but Ron has helped a lot of smaller channels.

[WgTheKid]

why are you playing mw2 lol

[dc101970]

sure you sound like a good commentator, you might be interesting to listen to, but when you call ron out for not helping smaller channels, when he totally and utterly has done this i can't help but agree with all these people flaming your channel

[TheIntenseGmer]

go die u dumb waste of space, retarded redneck.

[KingBenXXX]

@TheIntenseGmer Bit harsh don't you think?

[TheIntenseGmer]

this guy is fucking stupid

[kenireer]

you're the most stupid guy on youtube... please die in a fire

[MatthewPrinceTran]

You're a fucking dumbass lol.

[phonesnacabeca]

its a hobby?? you want money just like any other guy that starts posting content on youtube

[xkittens123]

Dude you can't even talk shit about Ron because you suck so much dick Ron always does shout outs. Why the fuck would someone want to send clips to you your a fag. Ron is so much better than you. Even if he didn't have a shout out from wings he would still be better because he is a way better player and commentator than you.

[spanky267]

@xkittens123 Are you Ron's publicist? You seem awfully sensitive on this topic. Do you troll everyone who slights your "god?"

[Sneaky313]

those of you who came to see how he ripped on ron it starts at 5:32

[imTurnz]

hate on ron and i gone hate u, u bitch

[SamClayton1994]

You need to get your facts right before you throw about accusations about a top fucking guy :)

[b0ttlesUp]

oh my god kill yourself faggot

[charmaster7]

Just quit please you lack talent, the commentary is killing me to listen to...overall it's a 0/5 bro I'm sorry you just aren't cut out for it.

[meloveyouforeggroll]

wow...you suck dude. you're an idiot. it'd be better if you just stopped breathing.

[guitarkid0725]

dude your a fucking dumbass!!! get your shit straight before talking shit about a channel way the hell bigger than yours! and ronnie actually made his channel because wingsofredemption put up a gameplay of him and many people messaged him to buy his own pvr and he ended up getting one and started making commentaries. so yeah fuck off, 99% of the things you actually said was all bullshit!!!

[CharmingGalaxy3]

ppl he just wants to get known by plp who r subscribed to ron dnt even bother watching this video hes just a fucking loser starting shit with da best commentators in youtube

[R3COV3RY916]

This guy's whack, all his subs are telling everyone to stop riding rons dick when they're practically giving ren a bj lmao

[zDolls]

@R3COV3RY916 we are defending him because we dont want him to get trolled...thats not dickriding

[R3COV3RY916]

@zDolls same thing with ron lol

[HockeyPlayer274]

Obsviously this guy is just trying ti get attention dumbass

[tagNickname55]

im going to be civilized (as should everyone else)

i mostly support what you're saying and you seem like a very understanding person(as you mention possibilities to explain Ron's supposed actions)

but obviously these things that you claim about Ron are just not true as he has been supporting other channels for a while now. The assumptions you make about Ron and his character are just not fair

you seem like a great person but you should really check your facts before you go call out someone

[iAreRenHo3k]

@tagNickname55 I issued a response to Ron in light of realizing that he has helped out smaller channels, which he has yet to acknowledge.  It's my video, linked as a video response here, entitled "Black Ops | Domination on Cracked..".

[goragan6]

Hey what you be talking about? You just got a shout out with the video he made about you -_-

[NiDezigns]

Ron said "if you're going to start youtube for the money, dont even bother"

[NiDezigns]

I agree with a lot of what you say... but PLEASE... NEVER TALK ABOUT RON AGAIN, BECAUSE U DONT KNOW WHAT UR TALKING ABOUT.

[Qwolify]

It's real nice to see how many dickrider's ron has. I doubt any of ron's dickriders have even watched any of ren's other video's. Your comment probably was posted before even watching the video. Now before you reply to this saying some fact's about ron, I don't give a fuck about how ron is such a nice guy, when to be honest you have never talked to him. The people like you are turning this community into a pathetic place were everybody is negative. Stop hating, stop dickriding.

[NiDezigns]

@Qwolify We make it negative? HE'S THE ONE TALKING STUPID SHIT HE DOESNT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT.

[Qwolify]

@NiDezigns I'm guessing your one of ron's fans. Did you like or dislike the video? Did you post a troll comment? If so your action's would not have been the same if you were not such a dickrider of ron. I mean seriously "you're a fat and eating an hamburger while commentating" what the fuck are you talking about? Other than being a tad off on your grammer your just hating. Ren isn't a fag, he's an uploader that express' his opinion.

[NiDezigns]

@Qwolify umad? I disliked.

[Qwolify]

@NiDezign umad? Lol that's really fucking old, go back to saying arrow in the knee jokes kid.

[R3COV3RY916]

@Qwolify you riding Rens dick?? lmao

[Qwolify]

@R3COV3RY916 Not really, if he put a video out about somebody I would click off it. Ron has put out a video about Birdman and he's just bringing hate to there channel's, for what reason? Btw don't reply to me twice just put the two thing's you want to say into one.

[rosen1295]

@Qwolify It's because ron doesn't like the fact that birdman was spawn raping and that apparently his clan invented spawn raping.EVERYONE hates spawn raping cos its in a way cheating just to boost your stats + he found it funny just like a lot of people.

[R3COV3RY916]

@Qwolify My bad didnt' mean to reply twice haha. Ron thought that video was funny, he gave it a like, and it was funny, the guy has a sense of humor. It's the internet, people take it way to seriously. It's just a video about spawntrapping, and I was cracking up about everyone freaking out haha

[R3COV3RY916]

@Qwolify I watched the whole video. Seems like Ren is hating on Ron. Ron has helped out many smaller channels, so I don't see what Ren is complaing about. I'm not dickriding, I'm pointing out the facts.

[hollywoodundead77100]

does this guy's voice piss anyone else off?

[NiDezigns]

@hollywoodundead77100 yup. me

[MeNTalmannEn]

Well you know what? No one gives a fuck about you.

[zDolls]

@MeNTalmannEn i do. hes my favorite commentator. he puts out good content i enjoy every time and hes a really nice guy too. you dont know anything about him so just stop hating.

[zDolls]

im just gonna say ren dont take the hate too seriously. your still my favorite commentator on yt by far and i agree with so many stuff you say. keep it up and dont let the trolling come to you.

[unicyclistwebby]

hey prick, You need to do some research before making such obnoxious comments.

Jog on bell end!

[boastliketoast]

Hey all, my name's Forest Gump.

[zDolls]

in b4 rons trolls :/

[zJakers]

Hello faggot.

[xcaliburrz]

i hate u

[123ericn]

fagget

[atlgt1995]

you obviously need to watch ron's video again

[PRODiiGY252]

get a real fucking job

[R0ssyB0ii]

is it just me or is this guy a massive dickhead

[kingdiamondtheeye]

You do know that wings was putting up Ron's videos before he was even on YouTube right? Wings made him start the channel.

[Rajvir00771]

You understood the video wrong. He said don't get into youtube if you're in it for the money and only if you want to do it for fun. And he's helped out tons of smaller channels, in fact he helped a channel out yesterday. Don't judge someone if you don't even know what they were trying to say. Get your facts right.

[QuaversInMyFace]

You should have checked ron out a bit more before making this vids, he's tried helping smaller channels out

[MrFlowPow]

Ron just said, that you shouldn't get in the youtube thing, if u just want it cause of the money. If u do it with passion and u do it cause it is fun for u, there is a chance, that u get noticed !

[DarkFist94]

Get your facts right before you try and attack another commentator.

[player869119]

Dr.chiz 2 times, Chaos chronicles 4 times, Fathersongaming, Bluestripe. would put more but cba trying to spell the channels. Now what were you saying about Ron not shouting out channels?

[J2JMC]

@player869119 lol you clearly just watched rons video

[player869119]

@J2JMC Oh you can read me like a book :)

[SupraKillas]

"he said you shouldn't even bother" hahah bullshit he never said that dumb shit

[stingliesdingly]

Like Ron has done a couple channel shout outs while he was playin black ops but he doesnt do any major just push for small channels. LOL and i have no idea how u survived that clusterfuck at 8:40ish.

[YouAintSTRiNG]

I was sent here because of Ron's video

[eatliftMISCsleep]

lol talk about taking youtube too seriously dude. you're not doing society a noble favor by being "real" about the whole partnership money thing. this is laughable actually.

[XkillerHopsX]

How about....WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK? LOL Youtube drama. You're starting shit

[6skha]

@bedlam36 he has mentioned loads about how he got into Youtube, that Wings got him into it, shouted him out, but he had no intention to getting into Youtube he was harrased into it. Wings is just a dickhead he now calls Ron a bad player which I don't understand and maybe this is why Ron stopped being grateful to the fat prick

[6skha]

Your bias should not be the reason for insulting Ron, he has helped out LOADS of small channels, and as far as being unique goes, you got what 58 kills in a domination match, Ron touches those figures on team death match where there are only 75 kills in it. You are only picking the bad sides to Ron, blinded to his good features. Ron basically said "Be original or do not try" I'm sure he meant do not be disappointed if you are not given the attention you expect if you are not unique, we love Ron

[kunle9]

Ron is a cool dude..If I remember the video right..he said you probably shouldn't start if your only in it for money or something like that..

[TebowForPres]

Misinformed or sour grapes, can't tell. Ron has helped. And he's far less arrogant than WoR in my opinion.

[MrJonojono34]

he said new channels shouldn't bother if their initial intent is to gain money

[AtownPros]

Did anyone else just now notice that MW3 just took the animation and look of the 1887 from MW2, and didn't do anything at all to it? That's kind of lazy...

[LordLongfinger]

i would like you to check out my friend stepmack35 he uploads alot but he does not get that much feed back and he trys his hardest to put out good content and he succeeds. but know one see it.

[Ballerz521]

I couldn't agree more man. I just saw this video but I had been subscribed to JNasty720 before he left the comment. Now he's getting in arguments with Ron and iTemp/SiilencedXBL

[EndlessBlaqk]

Ron explained that you shouldn't bother making Cod videos only if you are just in it for the money. He went on to say that if you do want to make Cod videos, you should just do it for fun. So it basically the same idea you have, but you must have misinterpreted the meaning of what Ron was trying to explain. Also, Ron has helped out some smaller channels that he believes deserves exposure.

[StefromBurnley]

Great video Ren, as ever, not least the actual gameplay - I'm not sure if anyone else noticed but you were losing 130-odd to 196 - and then you held the triple cap for the rest of the game and won.

[SuperZoobtube]

I agree poptarts-make money who cares, if you over inform your viewers you will get a better response from us.....

[poptartsfan1]

dude honestly. all of these arguments and stuff are bullshit. its a youtube video that people watch when they r bored. who cares if people ask for likes. Just like the video if u actually like it

[SupaFeared]

Watch the com again and listen.... he actually say's that if you want to do it for fun then go right ahead, he simply pointed out that if you are trying to get onto yt to make money then you are going to have a near impossible time , so much so that he thinks you would be wasting your time. I realy think you guys have taken his com the wrong way, he isnt an asshole and i think its unfair to call him that off this 1 com

[spanky267]

Great gameplay Ren and even better commentary. The root of all evil is the LOVE of money. Not money itself but the coveting of it. These big youtube commentators do all of this wierd crap for the almighty dollar. They are concerned with where that next check is coming from as opposed to putting out interesting or unique videos. Ron may be a beast player but he's not exciting to listen to and he comes off as smug. Wings is the same. Unsubbed from him a long time ago. Good craftsmanship = winning.

[ItzSlamDuncan]

(Not directed at Ren, just a general statement) Ron is NOT a reckless rusher. He is a different kind of camper. Notice how he always stays in the same general area until things heat up too much. Also, he is an asshole in the online world. He can't take constructive criticism(not hate). Don't let k/d impress you.

[AttitudeEra4life459]

Thank you for uploading some MW2 gameplay. Sick of everyone uploading MW3. MW3 sucks.

[dubarekrew]

btw hell of a game.. i play cod for these kinda games!! good comback.. if u got more games like these plz post deff more entertaining seeing an objective player instead of seeing a high score. TWO THUMBS UP!

[dubarekrew]

dude honestly im subbed to acouple "big youtubers" and u are starting to become 1 if not my overall fav. comentator on here. your content is funny, entertaining as fuck n just an overall good vids. keep it up man there are ppl out here who really look forward to your vids. liked this alot.. good stuff Ren.

[ThePureTexan]

@SuperMexican00 Dude can I ask you a question

[SSSILENTPRODUCTIONS]

Money changes people. My beef is not the ad revenue that a commentator generates because of content. It's the shameful bribed shoutouts that commentators give to channels because they are offered money. Big commentators lose touch of reality and forget they own an empire of dust. Will you be able to conquer greed?

[boring45ful]

u couldve got tacitcal nuke

[droski33]

Wow all your other videos are of you raging and motherfuckin noobing everything. Now i see the humble and intelligent ren haha

[LifeOrbPlusle]

This was a great vid man. I feel completely the same way. There is too much hate on youtube with CoD. If everyone would just get along the community would be a lot better. And a good bit of it comes from the money aspect, not earning the money but people that only do it for the money. Good vid :D

[mrbtjustice]

Good vid as always. I agree with what u say

[Scottyarms81]

Also IMO that Ron uses a mouse when he plays..at least that what it looks like to me.

[beybladeboy2010]

I have no problem with people asking for likes and asking there viewers to tell their friends about the video. I just have a problem with people who upload pointless vids just for views or changing the vid title just for extra views. Kind of like how a couple of months ago whiteboy was bumping his youtube vids.

[Scottyarms81]

nice commentary bro...by the way i noticed you put all your rage vids in a playlist..thanks for that cause I was gonna do it on my own.

[SuperMexican00]

will you accept my friend request i sent you...names Albin0 m3xican?? Will you?

[kenpachi2424]

Does the loading bar have a snow flake on it?

[Konguii23]

Ron actually helped SO MANY small channels... The point he's trying to make is that you shouldn't try to become a YT CoD commentator (or any kind of commentator for that matter) unless you have something unique whether it's about your personality, skills or whatever. And Ron does have something really unique, because you're telling me that a 12KDR reckless rusher is just something you see every day? I don't think so, Ron's gameplays are awesome and he's one of the smartest players on YT.

[iAreRenHo3k]

@Konguii23 I don't give a fuck about K/D.

If he's helped out a lot of small channels, I sure haven't seen it. Even if that were the case, he just doesn't strike me as a very nice guy or someone with a real sense of humility. It's easy to look at it on paper and say 'oh well he's helped out x and x,' but that doesn't change the fact that he comes across as an asshole. Same reason I don't really watch any of his or Wings' videos.

[thatguynamedcharles]

@iAreRenHo3k actually what ron was saying was you shouldnt start youtube if all your looking for is to make money. And ron has actually helped probably well over 20 smaller channels.

[SupraKillas]

@iAreRenHo3k how is ron not a nice guy? if he wasn't a nice guy he would shout out smaller channels...

[azoliver]

@iAreRenHo3k I'm really not hating but you say in the vid that Ron seems like a good guy then in your comment that he comes across as an asshole. Bit of a contradiction. I subscribe for gameplay and to learn to play better - you constantly run by flags, don't knife sentry guns and generally don't play for your team. Ok, in this match you won but I'd say that was despite you rather than because of you. Plus you say you hate YT drama that have a go at another commentator. Hmmmmm....

[AttitudeEra4life459]

@Konguii23

I hope that you do realize that "Ronaldino" is in this YT COD commentating thing for the money, right? Numerous people have said he has TOLD them he's only doing this for the money. Hop off his dick.

[Konguii23]

@AttitudeEra4life459 Yet you believe what ''numerous people said'', that's funny actually.

[bedlam36]

@Konguii23 He's not a 12 KDR reckless rusher, where do people get this shit?  He wouldn't have a channel without Wings, period. And he refuses to even acknowledge that, then acts like other channels have nothing to offer.

[sadface1123]

@bedlam36 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO­OL

he's shouted out over 10-15 people. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOl

[specialforcee]

i love you. you are not afraid to post some bad vids and showing your rageing. thats why i am sub to you. keep it like that pls.

[ThereAintNothingHere]

So do you agree with r0n or not? It's pretty clear this is in response to r0n, could you give an explicit opinion on the situation?

Loved the gameplay and commentary, as always

[ThereAintNothingHere]

@ThereAintNothingHere My bad, I didn't watch the whole video before I posted :)

Loved the video still

[ThereAintNothingHere]

@ThereAintNothingHere Ok, ok, ok third comment having watched the whole video. R0n did NOT say that you shouldn't start a YouTube channel, he said if you're in it for the money, don't bother. Serious misquotation in this video, you're making him out to be a douche, when he clearly says that he isn't unique and he says don't start a YouTube if you're in it for the money.

[donpoppito1]

Ren i really think you are losing touch with your subs. Will you touch me and tell me its not true? :D

I'm all for you making some money but it seems when the ppl start doing it just for money they lose touch with the community and just want money and thats it. Happens to bands and movies all the time and it never works out for them. *cough* George Lucas *cough*

[IVION5T4x]

Ron has tried to help other channels ALOT you will know this if you watch his other vids.

[yoop78]

I ALSO HATE HOW PEOPLE MAKE 500 VIDEOS A DAY, THAT ALL SUCK.

[yoop78]

do more commentaries like these :) you sir have extremely good points.

[InterMilton]

Love your commentaries ren

[wgrock]

Amazing comeback dude.

[FINTASTICFINS]

I think if you guys (You Tubers) are going to spend the money and time to entertain the masses, then you should get some sort of monetary compensation.

[CounterCODE1]

What you are doing takes time, dedication, love, and everything else that it takes to be good and passionate about something. I wish I could afford to dontate to you, cuz you are a form of entertainment, and I don't get free entertainment too often. This vid just makes me appreciate ya more. I think it'd be hilarious to see a doctor runnin around his office saying I'm gettin a new Benz, bitches! Doctor MOOONNNNAAAAAYY!!!

[CounterCODE1]

I really like your channel a lot. It's def one of the better ones and I watch a lot of vids. I always look forward to seeing an upload from you in my inbox. I'm a small business owner and I think it's amazing if a person can make money or a living doing something they absolutely love. Why should anyone try and take that away from you? I agree that some of the other commentators flaunt it though. Showing off their new Benz or using the terms "youtube MONAYY" it's rediculous. part 1

[ijustwokeupman]

thats why we love you and we love xcal

[Spaztek12]

I dont mind anybody making money from youtube but a few commentaters do let the fame get to there heads e.g woodyspricetag and wings to an extent and xjaws ...if i like a video i will like it but i hate it when it sounds like they are begging for likes..if you wanna see what people are really like watch one of there live streams ..woody is a dick lol the average gamer telling everyone what to do and wings just plain lies to subs on youtube hes admitted this much live ..

[Wigsplitter2000]

Nice all around vid dude. Keep them coming.

[SinggaSongg]

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[MrJonojono34]

@xsmfxthegoat what happend?

[dirtydubstepsanta]

@xsmfxthegoat personally, if ron was doing constant shoutouts i'd defintely unsub. subbed to him to watch him. like with you goat, subbed to you, but when you were doing all these shoutouts after getting help from xJawz, got a little bit boring and just ignored you in my sub box. all good now, but then,, ehhhh not a fan of the constant shoutouts, right intentions, just boring

[veryanonying]

Every time I receive message from commentary to watch their channel. I will press "report spam".

[PyRoizDAmAn]

Ren, your a great player! And i love ur commentaries i dont care tht people make money but its the fact they make nore money than everybody and than thhey dont go active for a couple of weeks is what really pisses me off i have three videos but i cant upload alot because i make mintagea and i get clips tht peopl like i dont jst throw bullshit clips on their...their are lots of peopl out there tht do tht i watch commentaties for tips on cod not about the time the commentator spilled coffe down h

[Juggernaut571]

People making money on YouTube has never bothered me. Athletes making millions of dollars piled on top of millions of dollars and actors/actresses doing the same really makes ke want to punch a fuckin' baby (disclaimer: juggernaut571 would never punch a baby).

[Prowler7673]

As long as you keep good quality videos coming, feel free to make money:)

[SxeScotty]

I've gone back to MW2 myself recently actually hit 3 nukes in a row people are so bad on it now. Good comm dude, you mind if I add you on XBL? I'm sick of going solo putting up monster games and still losing haha.

[captmorgan4u]

I've heard this subject before and to me, I have no problem with commentators making money. They should treat it like a business. It really doesn't matter to me. As long as they put out good content I'm in. And the money they make is of no concern for me. I just wish I was good enough to do the same.

[WizzeV]

I call Jnasty a friend and I agreed with the things he said about ronaldinho. I could honestly care less if I never make money off youtube. I started 2 months ago and have 240 subs. I can pretty much name and thank the people who have got me there so fast and I can honestly say I wouldnt be where i am without help. It bothers me when big youtubers talk down like ron did to justin by saying his channel was going nowhere. I'm positive that same thing didn't happen to ron. Just my opinion.

[bernardovhrm]

great commentary, i actually sub the guy that comment on ron's channel, i thought he was a fagg but i whatch his stuff and it was pretty fucking awesome! (sorry from my english)

[iAreRenHo3k]

@bernardovhrm Lol, awesome. I think it's incredibly arrogant to have a channel basically handed to you and then not bother to help others out yourself. Obviously everyone can't be successful at youtube, but this community should be more supportive rather than self-centered and egotistical.

[johnlennon1919]

your commentaries are so refreshing dude, keep em comin pleeeeezzz :p

[HuskersAlex]

Ok Real comment. Most people who make money lose video Quality. Get's very boring and soon they forget that we got them there.

[clawyer27]

I can't watch that gameplay. Too many flashbacks to all of the bullshit in MW3.

[HuskersAlex]

Money for chumps. <3