Sibelius - Symphony No.4 - 4th. movement

[luvselgar]

Many thanks for posting this. Wonderful piece and performance.

[mrotwist]

I particularly like Salonen's approach to the coda. Very dramatic.

[mrotwist]

In my first LP recording of it, the conductor used the glockenspiel AND bells. Tempo was slightly slower, but still moved along at a goodly pace.The Second,

Fourth, and Seventh symphonies are his best, with the Fifth a close fourth.

[marcocastuera]

Simplemente Genial!!!!

[MetoU2]

So, this is esa-pekka ? Another punk with a bad haircut, a whole lot of attitude and NO musical soul!!!!!!!!!!

[tommyk77]

@MetoU2 I disagree. He just looks that way. Shut your eyes and listen!

[MetoU2]

@tommyk77

[MetoU2]

Respond to this video... Compare to Ormandy, vonKarajan or Bernstein!!!! 

[tommyk77]

@MetoU2 "NO musical soul!!!!!!!!!!"

Bit different to "compare to [Insert Conductor]. Personally, I think the guys you list are great, but Salonen is great too and is more relevant to today's musical scene as well.

[cubanbach]

@MetoU2 huh???



[23062001805616]

Esa-Pekka knows how to work a symphony. Watch him bring them to an ultimate climax!

[pviola314]

@23062001805616 ultimate mid-climax! neither pp or ff, the symphony ends in mf. i love sibelius, what an artist

[rogybra]

:-)

[manhattanvor]

The conducting is interesting with a few new ideas I've not heard before. But the film!! I don't need to see the damned stings on the instruments in close-up! Its the same as looking down a fat opera singer's throat! Why not split the screen with conductor and solo insturments or just have a rostrum camera for the production? 5 for performance 2 for editing? When will we get a director who can focus on the interpreter - that is the conductror!!

[6stones]

Just watch later Karajan videos and you'll see ENOUGH of conductor.

[manhattanvor]

How true! in fact only early Karajan videos have real interest. I wish there was a video that showed him rehearsing for more than a few moments, as one sees in the Great Conductors video. Karajan's silliest video has to be the Tchaikovsky 1st Piano Concerto with Weissenberg. It looks more like Busby Berkly than anything else

[6stones]

Well, in YT there should be long Karajan rehealsals of Schuman 4th and Beethoven 5th from the 60's (but you are probably aware of them...).

[Gandalf4173]

@manhattanvor Oh stop complaining, its the music that matters and not the video, good or bad.

[edgluhrs]

Though Sibelius wrote some nationalistic music, you'll find his symphonies don't fit the mold that a "Learn more about Classical Composers 101" introductory guide might lead you to believe. Every Sibelius Symphony has its own internal logic and feel. I think nature is closer to the heart of most his symphonies rather than cities and people.

I also think this was a solid conclusion to the 4th... nice!

[JorPove]

La estructura musical,el lenguaje utilizado y la motivacion conceptual de esta sinfonia son distintos a los de las restantes sinfonias de Sibelius. ¿ Un experimento o una incursion a una motivacion que difiere con la musica incidental narrativa...?.No importa la respuesta el logro es indudable.

[platero55]

Most of Sibelius' music is patriotic or romantic or oratorical. This symphony is different. Sibelius gazes into the void and tells us what he sees.

[SuperMovieFan85]

@platero55 I agree with you there.

[wisemf]

i am a complete ignorant in this kind of music, but i find this quite beautiful and different from other songs (or simphonies idk)

that are called classical

[campplace5]

stop the whining already!

[schlesmail]

Actually, they're two different percussion instruments, & they have different & distinctive sounds. By bells, I'm referring to tubular bells, or Glocken in German. My question refers to the long-raging debate over whether Sibelius scored several passages in this movement for bells (Glocken) or for glockenspiel.

[WagnerMahler]

and you know what: in Leonard Bernstein and Ernest Ansermet recordings, they used bells, it sounds otherworldy, amazing... as a student on conducting in Stockholm nowadays, if I will get a chance to conduct it, I will not use glockenspiel, because bells sounds more enigmatique...

this movement is in the very thin line between to be optimist and pesimist, but at final bars, the pessimism wins...

[schlesmail]

So did Gibson, which is the first version of the Fourth I ever heard.

[schlesmail]

Thanx for putting this online. We eagerly await No. 6.

[schlesmail]

Glockenspiel or bells?

[cssa12]

They are both the same thing.