MoonFaker: Radioactive Anomaly. PART 16

[willrandship]

But the ability to block radiation is one characterized by heavier elements, not lighter ones. Any 10th grade chem student knows this. There is plenty of room in those heavy spacesuits for a little lead coating.

@sssssjjjj1 Who's uneducated? I'd say the racist nazi without any reason.

Countries tend to hide mistakes, whatever they be. For instance, there was a nuclear meltdown in an Idaho power plant months before chernobyl. It was just covered up better. That's no conspiracy. Just ask the lab

[sssssjjjj1]

are you guys uneducated completely. Everyone knows the jews are psycho control freaks raised on lies. They just keep on lying. They will never get their NWO. No cigar for you my fool.

[elvisinpersonator]

Unfortunately the debate has turned into a pride driven battle. Accepting the charade would be something so humiliating that most know it alls would feel insignificant. Additionally that would point to the practice of history being officially falsified and who is willing to throw away years of extensive study at school to the dump without at least shouting the f word.

[wengsky01]

the problem of apolloblvers is their claims are not based on science..so hey put volumes of alibis to so called debunk hoax claims..at the end blvers's are just non sense

[knickknack07]

This is what I love about the worthless conspriacy wackos. No matter how many times, and how thoroughly their garbage is debunked, they just keep repeating it and say that no one has proven them wrong. And when they are proven wrong, they turn right around and say "Well no one has proven me wrong." It is amazing that in 2008 people could STILL think the Van Allen Belt argument was valid.

[krisdevalle]

the most hilarious part is that they are happy to believe in the Van Allen Belts, despite having no proof of their existence, because that suits their argument.

Whereas we appear to have actual photos of men on the moon, but that's not enough.

Hypocritical much?

[angstotheclown]

@krisdevalle I've seen pictures of elves and dragons. They must be real. Then of course the past decades of study of the van allen belts are faked. There is no proof that you exist since I can't see you so please do fuck off. You don't exist.

[AndyHarglesis]

@angstotheclown You tell him/her. I've dealt with that close-minded, government ass-kissing freak lately. There's no getting through to that sexist failure and weak poster.

The moon landings were a HOAX people!

[krisdevalle]

You know, if anyone had died from cosmic radiation; Soviet astronauts, dogs, chimps, Mercury, Gemini or Apollo astronauts, anyone staying for months in space stations, I might be more inclined to believe this; but currently all this is based on observation and theory. So without any hard evidence, I am more inclined to believe that limited exposure is possible, hence lunar exploration is also possible.

[tsimon1234]

Limited exposure is possible. I'm not saying that there weren't side effects, cos there were premature cataracts mainly, but we did go to the moon. Don't believe the BS that people tell you. We went. FACT.

[daro2096]

Amazing logic.

They "survived" therefore it must be safe?

Never take into account that it was all faked and that the Russians were just as much fakers as the Americans. Sorta of like if you keep quiet about my faking's I will keep quiet about your faking's.

[krisdevalle]

Sure, the two great superpowers of the time, actively engaged in a a cold war arms build up and intensive spying campaigns, would just agree to lie to the rest of the world about the space race that they were both trying to win.

Yeah that works.

[alueshen]

@daro2096 This idea of the USSR and US covering for each other is most absurd claim made by the hoax crowd. Assuming no one went to the moon, the USSR would have pointed out the US lie and simply lied about their lie. The USSR had total control of their media whereas the US government doesn't. The USSR, being behind in many aspects had more to gain by exposing the US. If the USSR had exposed us and we retaliated, they could have just claimed our motivation was to falsely discredit them

[daro2096]

@alueshen

The USA was selling cheap wheat to the Russians at the time because they were starving. Blowing the whistle would have ended up killing millions of Russians'.

The Russian's were not entirely honest in their Space Program either. Yuri Garin was not the first Russian in Space, he was the tenth. Their moon landing program was a total failure and kept secret until after the fall of the USSR.

You say the secretsy would have been impossible. I disagree. FDR knew about Pearl Harbor before.

[alueshen]

@daro2096 Once again, from a PR prospective, can you see it? The US denies the USSR wheat because they ratted out our fake space program. In retaliation we're going to starve millions of Russian civilians? The USSR could have accomplished a PR coup on the US that 100 nuclear missiles could have never accomplished, which of course is why this is all so silly. Just face it, it was what it was, no conspiracy. Stick with your Pearl Harbor theory, you have a better chance with it (/rolls eyes)

[daro2096]

@alueshen

FDR knew about the attack of Pearl Harbor 9 days before the attack. He admits it in an auto-biology of him. The Americans can keep secrets when they want to.

The America media has to be the most controlled in all the world. They are only allowed to print what the elite allows them to print. Those who go against the elite tend to end up dead.

[mfriedlin]

As usual grade school insults. No counter facts, just endless insults.

Because you don't have anything to say?

The peer reviewed European study that found nano thermite in the WTC buildings seals your fate. Game over.

NASA found out about deadly radiation in space in the late 50's.

But we enriched the companies and contractors as usual.

In way I feel sorry for you.

Analytical technology in 2009 is far advanced more than anyone dreamed of in 1972

Game over.

[HeadLikeARock]

Here's a quote from Parker in his paper "Shielding Space Exploreres from Cosmic Rays".

"Far out in space about one cosmic ray proton passes through each square centimeter every second. A week or a month of this bombardment would probably have no lasting biological consequences, but a voyage to Mars and back is a different story."

Seems he doesn't agree with you that GCRs would prevent a 2 week mission to the moon.

[greenmagoos]

David nice to see your are the only one at Apollohoax honest enough to admit the smaller light reflection in the Apollo 14 visor isn't produced by either the inner visor or fishbowl.

You'll have noticed that bit when the helmet viewpoint door/shade blocked the light from the larger source (your gif)

Wee tip for you though.

LM's look like smaller versions of themselves reflecting in visors.

Lights look like lights (or the Sun!)

[HeadLikeARock]

All you can clearly make out is the bright reflections, probably off the highly reflective mylar foil... just where the side of the ascent stage, and three footpads would be, as the astronaut moved closer to the LM (camera being slightly to one side).

[greenmagoos]

Actually my apologies David. You skillfully managed to avoid using any stills in your gif that showed the larger reflection obscured by the viewpoint door/shade.

Hit my user name for my U-T wallpaper and you'll see the still I'll be using in my next video to highlight this FACT!

And I'm still not seeing a LM reflecting in that visor masquerading as a light David sorry to say.

[HeadLikeARock]

So the sun is slightly obscured by the visor.

So what?

So you can still see the reflection off the side of the ascent stage.

So what?

[greenmagoos]

"So the sun is slightly obscured by the visor.

So what?"

Well I'm interested is that what made you realise/admit on Apollohoax that it COULDN'T be a reflection from either the protective visor or the fish bowl.

I take it you agree it would appear to be the gold visor that is down?

[HeadLikeARock]

The change in the relative position of the highlights as he moves closer to the camera makes me think they are individual reflections off the gold visor.

[greenmagoos]

'The change in the relative position of the highlights as he moves closer to the camera makes me think they are individual reflections off the gold visor.'

Yes I would have to agree and I admire your honesty and I'll be honest with you and agree that I can see why you think you are seeing the LM footpads and given that that there is a LM shadow in the footage thats understandable however I'm not seeing a LM manifesting as a TRUE reflection in the visor if you catch my drift?

[michaelstmark]

He's dishonestly grasping at LM straws green'. Hardly worth the keyboard time of day to reply. On no other Apollo media, including many Hasselblads allegedly taken down-sun close to station LM, do we see outstandingly bright non-direct source lights reflected in a visor.

The LM mylar was creased and crumpled and only allowed small and random SL reflections to occasionally manifest.

Cute the convoluted lengths these desperadoes go to when cornered, to explain away the obvious.

[greenmagoos]

We can be absolutely sure that there are no other exps in the Apollo media because the best one of David's friends at Apollohoax could come up with was a photograph of a girl sitting in front of a window causing a double reflection.

[HeadLikeARock]

A reflection of some specular highlights off the LM, just where you'd expect them to be given that he's standing in the shadow of the LM... Grasping dishonestly you say.

I could say the same about people who insist it's the reflection of 5 bright aritificial lights that don't cast multiple shadows... and why use 5 when 1 would suffice? And why do the LM reflections appear to increase in size as he gets closer to the LM, but the sun reflection doesn't?

[greenmagoos]

"The other problem is that additional photography of the LM (e.g., AS14-66-9255) shows a dearth of surfaces on the LM that are sunlit and provide a view factor forward to the area near the MESA, where the motion picture camera is aimed."

Well said Jay Windley.

"No, I haven't ruled out entirely a reflection from the LM... the interreflection explanation."

Make sure you point out to Windley the helmet viewpoint door blocks out the larger light reflection David!

Cheers

[HeadLikeARock]

The image you keep linking to is looking downsun, not upsun.

Try this upsun image instead:-

AS14-66-9306

Oh, nice try, but I'm nobody's messenger boy ;)

[greenmagoos]

I wasn't linking another photo I was quoting Jay Windley's response to you on that thread at Apollohoax!

[greenmagoos]

I can imagine that when the Apollo 14 Astro-not turns his head back towards the camera the angle has changed therefore the downsun side of the LM (as14-66-9255 etc) dearth of surfaces that are sunlit would be manifesting as reflection in the visor!

I can confirm having analysed every second of each missions tv coverage that generally when Apollo Astro-nots are standing a few feet away from LM's and rover's, LM's and rover's can be seen reflecting in the gold visors.

[greenmagoos]

David will you do me a favour and google PAGEOS satellite for a demonstration of what I believe you are seeing in the Apollo 14 footage.

[greenmagoos]

David if Apollo image AS14-66-9256 was supposed to have been taken at approx the same time and same side of the LM where is the highly reflective gold mylar cover on the descent stage in the visor?

There appears to be that much light reflecting from the LM in that photo its difficult to imagine that something similar wouldn't have manifested as a reflection in the visor.

I don't think thats the LM however.

[HeadLikeARock]

The image you linked is in the wrong place and looking in the wrong direction.

It's possible the 3 reflections I identified as being the pads are just reflections off parts of the descent stage. Look at AS14-66-9306. See the three specular highlights? In the film clip the 'naut would be further to the left as you look, so there could be a reflection of some part of the edge of the ascent stage.

I'm still not seeing 5 artificial lights though!