@AronRa how is it that one part of science is true but then you’re not suppose to connect it to another part of science? Cosmologist conjecture a singularity in the big bang theory and biology conjectures a singularity in another theory, but then to add them up is invalid?
@rkyeun the “singularity” of the big bang theory is pure conjecture. and only exist as a mathematical theory mostly. You do know how scientific conjecture is essential to theory?
according to Aron’s other video, he believes in a biological singularity, as do most biologist I believe. How many genesis of life can there be supposed? Where do all those branches on the evolutionary tree go if not to a singularity? hardly incomprehensible.
> the “singularity” of the big bang theory is pure conjecture
Nope.
> and only exist as a mathematical theory
Right, so you don't know what theories are, or what the role of math is in science. Thanks for clearing that up.
> according to Aron’s other video, he believes in a biological singularity
I have never heard AronRa nor any other scientist talk about a biological singularity. I don't think you know what the word means or what you're talking about.
@AronRa cont...Especially considering that most of the conjecturing is really just mathematical and not observational at all. It seems like science has just as many contradictions as anything else, and yet such contradictions don’t seem to discredit science.
@rkyeun my favorite, it looks like we’re at the center of the universe but we’re not. The observation doesn't equal the reality? not to mention quantum physics vs. Newtonian physics. So what is it? magic? allusion? the super natural? What is the mathematical formula for that? the one that proves we are not at the center of the universe? and the formula that shows it appears that we are at the center. Which one is real? lol the universe is not the math.
@AronRa Why argue a common ancestor if all life evolved from a singularity? If that’s true then isn’t it true that we’re all related to pond scum?…. be honest.lo
You keep using that word. I don't think you know what it means.
> If that’s true then isn’t it true that we’re all related to pond scum?
Your protons are the protons forged in the big bang and your atoms are the atoms forged in the death of stars. You share that origin with rocks. Some chemicals self-assemble and replicate. Some of those formed cells. You share that with all earth life.
@rkyeun thanks for the freshman explanations, I like how you rattled all that out. Actually it’s now known that biology itself has created more chemical compounds than did suns. This is over your head I’m sure. post big bang 5,6,7 elements maybe? suns formed and another 1400 elements and compounds came into existence, and then post life another 4,600+ compounds. Life acting on itself is far more emergent than stars ever were, chemically speaking. Your old memes are already outdated. : )
@romney27 What are you talking about there are 117 different elements look at the periodic table and they are made by stars by Nuclear fusion "only". chemical compounds are totally different not by fusion in stars but by cooling and physical and chemical properties of compounds.There are no chemicals in star plasma because they cannot exist in plasma only when it cools.The cooling action of planets cause chemicals to react to each other "cooling to form life".
@ahhninjadragon the elements make up thousands of natural compounds. Since life has been around more compounds have come into existence than were in existence before life. Suns make only so many of them, but “life” made more.
You should listen to some science podcast more often, considering the exponential nature of scientific knowledge.
@romney27 No you dont understand chemical elements and chemical compounds are made in a different way. chemical elements made in stars by a fusion reaction.chemical compounds are made by chemical reaction life is a by product of the chemical reaction.you have no clue about scienceThis is the most basic chemistry.
your saying bricks(chemical elements) are houses(chemical compounds)and there is more different kinds houses now so god made bricks and houses that does not follow.
Nobody claims that "life evolved from a cosmological singularity". The developing universe at some point produced star systems and planets hospitable to chemical reactions. It is at that point that life could form and evolution begin.
@number1strat Haven't seen mother in years ! ! Thanks for your kind offer to re-unite us. Could you equipe the box with a blue ribbon? As blue is mother's favourite colour ! Won't mother be pleasantly surprised and DELIGHTED. One thing though. - - Are you sure you can afford the postal expense, as I imagine you living in an abondoned bath-tub by the side of a stagnant river someplace. Again - - Thanks for the offer, but I think I will drive my Porsche next time I visit. Cheers :)
@evidenceonlythanx I was referring to the clip in the article from Pink Floyd's The Wall. The song is called Run Like Hell, a song, band, and album which I enjoy immensely and felt I would quote. But hey thanks for showing your ignorance on the matter and for exposing your material and immature nature. I needed a good laugh. :-)
@evidenceonlythanx Also for someone with "evidence only" in your name, you sure do like to throw around assertions that have no evidence to back them up. Why you mad bro?
@number1strat My appologies are owing to YOU personally. From me to you, MY APPOLOGIES. After ''reasoning'' with creationists on certain sites over a very long day, I surfed here and TOTALLY MISTOOK your comments (without researching or checking your site). Arriving at the . . FALSE . . conclusion you were offering a threat to AronRa or, Athiests in general. This was NOT THE CASE. Glad you were able to squeeze a good laugh from MY ERROR.
@number1strat Poor ? Well that makes 2 of us. Poor in money but not the desire for life, music, humanism and the seeking of truth as far as the human mind will take us. Time is pressing on me at the moment but will catch you in the future, as I intend to watch more of the clips you have posted on your site, and would enjoy conversing on them. Again thanks for your good humor. Check this. . . Kieth Richards acoustic version of 'Cocaine Blues". . . Just beautifull guitar. Take care .
I received my Doctorate from Harvard. My I.q. Is 600G.E.(god equivalents ). That's Harvard Alabama community Bible college. The Great flood created the Grand Canyon in 5 min. Evidence: just look at the Grand Canyon. Proof: the Bible and all my teachers at Harvard Bible College. My wife got her doctorate from MIT. Mormon institute of theology and she says the Earth is flat. How come people in China don't fall into Hell? Because Earth is flat. Pwned yeahh!!
Several meteorites have been found to contain carbon-based compounds, such as methane. Sorry to burst your bubble, but "organic" does not mean "pertaining to life."
Are you joking? Do you have zero understanding of how any atom above hydrogen is formed? The information is abundant - unlike relifious fanatics, science does NOT shy away from publishing it's findings. A simple google search could answer all your questions, provided you stay away from fanaticaly religious websites. You REALLY have no reason to ask this question, unless you are deliberately ignorant, which, by YOUR question I must conclude.
Rather strange comment. maths82 was actually asking an honest question. He misunderstood the definition of "organic," but so does almost everyone who doesn't have college chemistry experience.
You can believe Evolutionary theory is a religion all you wish that dosent make it true,to paraphrase AronRa here,there is no dogma,no holy text,no sunday service,nothing. It is defended with facts and evidence not faith a 2,000 year old story book and apologetics. The final point you will get no argument from me on.
"The way life forms diversify via descent with modifications"
So it isn't "God did it" it is "Time did it" or "Mutation did it" Yet, neither time nor mutation are creative forces. So the only explanation is that the differences in species are just the expression of innate genetic information in the DNA of each. I won't even expect ArronRa to explain how information got into the DNA through a naturalistic method since information is not a product of matter and is immaterial
" Yet, neither time nor mutation are creative forces. "
What, because you say so? I can provide you a very long list of novel traits generated purely by mutation and natural selection working in tandem.
" information is not a product of matter and is immaterial"
Your implication is a fallacy. DNA contains no information whatsoever. We use information to represent DNA on paper so we can understand it, but DNA is more like a jig or a mold.
Are you really going to go with DNA contains no information whatsoever? So the Genes in DNA don't code for specific protiens for specific jobs. It is just a jig.. Wow
You have no traits, other than gene mutation, that lost some information, that regulates some function to cause that function to go aray. Then you show these as mutation and natural selection working as creative forces. They are deteriorating not getting better or creating..
@johnrainrules No it isn't new information. It is that bacteria already have thee genetic ability to eat what is available. The interesting thing about the find I believe that you are talking about is that the researchers took other bacteria and exposed them to the plastic enviornment and they too were able to adjust their digestion to break down the plastic in just a few weeks. Which shows that if you designed organisms to break down waste you would give them this ablility,,, more evidence..
"they too were able to adjust their digestion to break down the plastic in just a few weeks."
This is because bacteria reproduce rapidly. This is how natural selection works...either the organism adapts via mutation and natural selection, or it goes extinct.
Knowing something about biology might come in handy.
@TheZooCrew There are none so blind as those who will not see.. Yes they reproduce rapidly. But they can only do that which their genes already allow them to do.. Thus their gene are programmed to adapt it is not a mutation in the way that you mean it, it is just adaptation which isn't evolution macro or micro.. It is just the natural variation inherent in the genome.. By design!!! not by chance...
@TheZooCrew Adaption via the natural variation already coded into the genes = design.. Thus this is not goo to zoo evolution..
I know you will say that it is evolution because it is "change over time" which makes everything evolution even a decaying racoon by the side of the road since it changed over time..
School are you kidding me... You didn't go to school you went to an indoctrination camp...
@BornHomophobictOO Ah, the lies of a creatard. We have observed several mutations happening today. Also how are animals or people supposed to have all this variation built into our DNA if we were descended from two beings and then had a genetic bottleneck at Noahs Ark. That would entail people dying from inbreeding thanks to all of the incest that happened in your bible.
You say you don't believe but behave like you do believe there is not God. You work hard to deny the evidence. I am quite honest. But your position is not consistent. You say you don't believe, but you work hard to show why the evidence for God is not real. You are acting out your belief... that there is no God and... you still haven't given me any reason why your position is valid. Like I said earlier, atheism only exists in a vacuum. It has to try and disprove theistic evidences
"You say you don't believe but behave like you do believe there is not God."
Is this statement intended to be evidence of my lying?
This is my opinion and like assholes we all have them.LOL
I'm sure not going to take your flat earth bible as evidence.
The 66 books that are inspired by God and written by man NEVER say the earth is flat and there is no word sphere in the Hebrew lanugage to use. So what bible do you mean? Is this flat earth bible an atheist translation?
I will pm you are you error about pi as it is a bit long
here is some wisdom about prayer for you
When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by man. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.
When you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
@SuperTruthlover Pi equals circumference divided by diameter. It is your bible in Kings that says you can have a circumference of 30 and a diameter of 10 of the same measuring unit.
"I will pm you are you error about pi as it is a bit long"
Don't bother; I've heard your learned apologetic about uneven cubit lengths. Funny how even the "inspiration of God" couldn't grant either a consistent unit of measurement nor the exact values of mathematically important constants.
@SuperTruthlover "Is this statement intended to be evidence of my lying?" Yes, that is not the definition of atheism. I accept the possibility of God however small. I also accept the possibility of Zeus and the Easter Bunny. Since there is actually more proof for them.
"and there is no word sphere in the Hebrew lanugage to use"
Because they thought the world is flat. Several verses such as Matthew 4:8, Isaiah 11:12, Revelation 7:1, Job 38:13, Daniel 4:11 and more say this explicitly.
And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. This is how you should pray:
Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.
Who of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will our Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him!
If the people in the bible did, he sure told them the wrong ones. Especially since Genesis book 1 contradicts book 2. It also states the Earth is flat and that all animals were specially created not evolved. Genetics and fossils prove this to be a lie. That is why creatards get butt hurt when it is shown the book they idol worship isn't science.
But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face, so that it will not be obvious to men that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. Seek truth
Funny, because you don't do this. You could care less about the truth...you think you already have it and thus you unquestioningly follow what you've been told. Truth may be sought, but never possessed.
@SuperTruthlover "But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face, so that it will not be obvious to men that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you'
Another thing you don't do that is in the bible. Instead you choose to bukkake the internet with your creationist stupidity in as conspicuous a manner as possible.
@SuperTruthlover All of them, you cuntpasted all of your arguments about the "true meaning" of your bible from creationist websites. You claimed the DNA for all humans was in Adam and Eve and you use the same micro verses macro evolution lie all creationists use. You also threw a bitch fit about a video satirizing your literal interpretation of Genesis.
I love how creationists are ashamed to admit they are creationists.
@SuperTruthlover Your the one who threatened me. Also the fact that you lie and present arguments proven wrong decades ago doesn't help. Evolution explains the existence of all species from a common ancestor, your "within species " qualification is nonsense.
When someone asked you what race Adam was you claimed he and Eve had the DNA for all races in them. So you just lied again.
@SuperTruthlover Actually you said Adam was both white and black. Your lying about what you said when I showed you that the DNA from the entire human genome could not possibly fit into two people. That's another bit of creationist nonsense, claiming we only lose genetic diversity.
Of course you have to lie because creationism is inherently dishonest and hypocritical. Just like making threats while wondering why other people are full of hate.
The reality is, loving our enemies, doing good to those who persecute us, praying for the good of those who persecute us is a supernatural gift. It is not something that we can do on our own. Yet without this kind of love taking place our world, our civilization is doomed.
@SuperTruthlover "The reality is, loving our enemies, doing good to those who persecute us, praying for the good of those who persecute us is a supernatural gift"
One you haven't received since you like too lie and threaten people because you are too lazy to learn science.
Truth is, you don’t need God, or faith to do that. You don’t even need to be a decent human being to do that. When people do what we want or say, or when they look or sound how we want, well, even a pagan can love someone like that.
We are to love as God loves. God loves His enemies. God loves those who hate Him. God loves those who try to convince others that He doesn’t exist.
@SuperTruthlover "God loves those who try to convince others that He doesn’t exist."
So much that he designed the Universe in a way that contradicts the bible.
"Truth is, you don’t need God, or faith to do that. You don’t even need to be a decent human being to do that. When people do what we want or say, or when they look or sound how we want, well, even a pagan can love someone like that."
Then why do you believe without Jesus everyone goes to hell.
Because God does so with us, we too are to love those who simply are not loveable.
What sometimes happens, if we’re lucky, is we find someone who is difficult to love, and WHEN we see or hear something that we like, we move toward civility. And then we pat ourselves on the back. “Wow,” we commend ourselves. “That is such a difficult person. I don’t know anyone who likes her, yet I can be kind to her. I’m a pretty good person.”
A guy named Matthew recorded what are perhaps Jesus’ most profound and challenging words. It’s often called the Bs, and in one part Jesus is explaining to us that “even pagans can love those who love them back.”
Isn’t that the truth? Sometimes I encounter someone who is, well, let me use one guy’s own words, “People either love me or hate me. And nobody loves me.” I actually like the guy but I’ve met others who I just could not find any aspect that allowed me to appreciate who they were.
@SuperTruthlover "A guy named Matthew recorded what are perhaps Jesus’ most profound and challenging words."
Like Matthew 4:8 where he says the Earth is flat and Matthew 21:21 where he says "Jesus replied, "I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done."
Atheism is impossible if held positively. Atheism only exists in a vacuum. It must disprove theistic proofs. It cannot prove itself true. It is a very weak place to be intellectually.
@SuperTruthlover "It must disprove theistic proofs. It cannot prove itself true. It is a very weak place to be intellectually."
More cuntpasting, word for word from your other posts. I already showed you have no "theistic proofs" so after you were refuted you thought you would wait and hope nobody remembers your discredited argument. Creationism is inherently dishonest.
@SuperTruthlover "The evidence is that the external cause for the beginning of the universe could not have been natural.”
What evidence?
"Atheist: [No Answer] Just - They were wrong about Thor, so you’re wrong too."
Straw man, the evidence against your religious beliefs are that the claims of your flat earth bible have been shown to be wrong over and over again. A god may exist, but the majority of the bible has been proven wrong.
You have a position. Unless it is based completely on blind faith, there must be some reason you hold to it. That would be your evidence. It is your position I am asking you to establish. Not mine. So tell me. Why do you hate God and attack the bible?
@SuperTruthlover Your the one that claims to have "theistic proofs", and evidence of a supernatural cause. Those are positive claims. Claims I've proven you and your flat Earth text wrong about.
"Why do you hate God and attack the bible?" I attack the bible because it says things that are lies, and morons like you want it taught in public schools because you are too lazy to do science.
That ridiculous apologetic (more like a novel than a message) you sent me about pi is pathetic. You contradict yourself about a million times, from the length of a cubit to your "assumptions" about bowl-making.
Or, should I say, the people you copied and pasted made those mistakes. Nothing you have posted is your own.
@SuperTruthlover "I have never cutpased from creationist websites"
Every one of your sentences that is not spelled wrong and has punctuation is found word for word on the pathlights website. Besides being a baldfaced liar, you also cuntpaste nonsense you don't understand.
@SuperTruthlover "I am a servant of the most high God and I am not ashamed of my Lord Jesus Christ."
Then why do you have to lie about the bible, and why are you ashamed to admit you're a creationist. Also why do you do the exact opposite of what your flat earth tome teaches.
"Do you accept your position as a atheist who rejects the living God Jesus Christ or do you not like such a label?"
I accept my "position" as someone who does not believe things without evidence from flat Earth texts.
arer are you relying on one of the dozen or more atheist origin of the universe mythologies being tossed around by those desperate to avoid the metaphysical implications of Big Bang Cosmology?
Atheist: [No Answer] Just - They were wrong about Thor, so you’re wrong too.
Even though atheists have been 100% wrong in their ideas of how this universe came into existence without the presence of anything natural / material in existence at the singularity, they attack the bible
@SuperTruthlover I'm saying your god can't bring itself into existence, so your just special pleading and using false dilemma to try to prove your flat earth god.
That is a blanket statement and you are incorrect. Many atheists hold to the positive position that the big bang did occur It is incumbent upon those who makes claims to provide evidence.
@SuperTruthlover ". Many atheists hold to the positive position that the big bang did occur It is incumbent upon those who makes claims to provide evidence."
And physicists have provided said evidence, most of which disproves Genesis.
@SuperTruthlover "It has to try and disprove theistic evidences "
There is no such evidence. Especially when you make claims about the Earth being designed 10,000 years ago and that Adam and Eve were real people. There you enter the realm of things that can and have been disproven.
I have said no one know the age of the earth my simple minded friend.
for you
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him."
Quoting old texts written by ignorant, bigoted goat herders to justify their own inhumanity (and which contain demonstrably false information) is not a valid form of argument.
@SuperTruthlover "My love goes out to you as would my foot if you were near me!"
Christian hypocrisy at its best.
"A decision to follow Jesus certainly has consequences. We might be ridiculed or even persecuted:"
You'll be ridiculed if you accept that a book that claims the Earth is flat is a scientific textbook and use it to reject most of science. Science too hard, try young earth creatardism.
poor child you are confused with the poetic language of the book of Ezekiel
let me help you
The she is the passage is not a women but the nation of Israel and the lovers are the heathen nations of Egypt and Assyria and their false gods. words pictures are the best way to convene a complicated message according to World Report Magazines after all.
@SuperTruthlover Poetic language, you mean beastial smut right. Word pictures that involve women getting nailed by animal genitalia show how perverse your flat earth book is.
There are none so blind as militant atheist dogfaces
God criticized the unwillingness of the hearers to respond. So Jesus warned:
"You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them."
@SuperTruthlover "There are none so blind as militant atheist dogfaces"
I love how an atheist is militant when they tell you things that are factually wrong are wrong, but a theist is only militant when they strap a bomb to something.
"Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them."
Yet faith healing has been shown to be a con time and time again.
@johnrainrules Yeah what mutations? They happen all the times that is like saying I observe sunlight happening so you can't say the sun doesn't shine. Of course mutations happen and they are BAD for the organism not good. They build up in the Genome and cause BAD things not GOOD. The mytocondrial DNA mutation evidence shows that the first woman was 6,000 years ago that is what SCIENCE says not me SCIENCE why are you against SCIENCE?
"The mytocondrial DNA mutation evidence shows that the first woman was 6,000 years ago"
No....
It shows the woman which represents the common ancestor for all living humans (not the first woman) lived 150,000-200,000 years ago. Mitochondria only accumulate mutations at roughly 1 per 3500 years. If your story were true there should only be 1-3 variations. Why is there more?
@BornHomophobictOO If you honestly believe that all mutations are bad then you are ignorant of basic biology. Few mutations are bad. A vast majority of mutations are actually neutral, the rest are either advantageous or deleterious. The mytocondrial DNA evidence does not show the first woman was 6,000 years ago, provide a source if that is true. You claim to represent science yet you are evidently too ignorant actually comprehend science or discern credible scientific sources.
@BornHomophobictOO Actually the mutations in the lab were observed adding new and beneficial traits to the animals in question.
The mitochondrial DNA shows that Mitochondrial Eve was 200,000 years ago and Y nuclear Adam was about 80,000 years ago. Thanks for showing that creationism is inherently dishonest by outright lying.
Someone moderately famous, perhaps Dennett, said that Darwinian theory acts as a kind of "moralic acid" that dissolves traditional belief systems and moral codes. Given what traditional belief systems and moral codes have historically given us, perhaps it will be a good thing for society to go on a Darwinian acid trip.
I think the point you make at the beginning of the video is the most important point of all: The vast majority of the people in this country, and in the world for that matter, do not understand evolution enough to be able to speak about it intelligently, one way or the other. This is sadly true of so many other topics. The question I always have is, if self-government is a virtue, then how are the uninformed masses (like me!) to govern themselves?
You leave a computer turned on for 100,000,000 years and see if it develops a program by itself. I will use genetic algorithms, polymorphism, inheritance and create programs within hours that use the same basic building blocks, the same interfaces but are all slightly different and can change and adapt, including mutating, replicating etc. I can even do that within a virtual landscape, with real physics. In such a world, can you determine the nature of your god by observing your genetic code?
What you fail to realize is that the conclusion of these videos is that creationism is crazily wrong, not that God doesn't exist, for that can never be proven.
Also, the argument is not that a deity COULD NOT have created everything we see through natural causes, but whether it's NECESSARY for a creator. There is nothing we've observed so far that requires a supernatural explanation.
@TheZooCrew That is not what the videos portray. The unspoken assumption is that it is disproving God. Most of the video contents are aimed at disproving a specific assumption of an interpretation of scripture which by nature is not a scientific record. God would not have to be a "creator" anyway. And biblical record uses the word "organize". One can create by organizing can they not? MS makes C++, I use C++ to organize instructions into virtual life. Tada! Magic! Who cares if C++ existed prior
@TheZooCrew That is not what the videos portray. The unspoken assumption is that it is disproving God. Most of the video contents are aimed at disproving a specific assumption of an interpretation of scripture which by nature is not a scientific record. God would not have to be a "creator" but an "organizer" which is the literal translation. One can create by organizing can they not? MS makes C++, I use C++ to organize instructions into virtual life. Tada! Magic! Who cares if C++ existed prior?
@borrowedstuff your arguing someone designing a software program (conceptual) Versus Yaweh saying abra cadabra and creating the universe. (bullshit) That is truly fallacious.
@YevonZ Explain the fallacy. If my program is executed by the password abra cadabra then does that make it magic? Do you not have the mental capacity to contemplate generalities in comparison to daily activities like programming? Think about it. Stop reacting with your gut. This is why people like me believe that evolutionary theory is becoming a religion. It's defended on an emotional level. This video series is probably the first example of a serious intellectual defense. Cudos for that.
@borrowedstuff Challenging my mental capacity in the same breath as saying someone designing a software program and el/allah whatever god you subscribe to creating everything are comprable? You could potentially meet the programmer,you could open the program with a hex editor or what have you and see how it was made. The same is not true with the planet or universe or your god,that is why it isn't comprable. It really isn't that hard to see why your comparison dosen't hold up.(cont.)
@YevonZ You are making the logical leap that it's impossible to meet "god". If an ant examines a human do they comprehend what they are seeing/exploring? They can't comprehend a human without a perspective/understanding equivalent to a human(as in your person meets programmer example) Math is getting closer to "hex editing" the origin of the universe and disproving big bang. With a unified math theory man will finally have the tools to BEGIN to comprehend. To say we already know is hubris.
@borrowedstuff It is impossible to meet god,there has never been any indication that any god has existed,so I fail to see your point,unless you are talking about a true beliver experiencing god,in which case it is indistinguishable from delusion.I don't understand your fire ant analogy so i can't comment. As far as disproving the big bang,that's just a theory it can potentially be falsified but they haven't done it yet so yea,unless they do it it means nothing. I have never stated I already.cont
@YevonZ I'll remind you of the phrase "abscence of evidence does not prove evidence of absence". As we progress, we understand more about the complexities of the multi-verse and are rapidly approaching a unified mathematical theory. In the world of physics (much ignored by evolutionists except where they can cherry-pick helpful tidbits) big bang has been abandoned. Inflation theory directly impacts the creation process and conflicts with tenets of evolution sacred founding articles.
@borrowedstuff I'm sorry but evolution happens,as this series explains so wonderfully, no amount of cosmology,mathematics,physics, could possibly have any effect on that. You are commiting a logical fallacy making the claim that evolutionary biology have anything to do with one another. The big bang theory could be proven false 10 minutes from now and it wouldn't change the FACT that evolution happens in the slightest. You've demonstrated an inablity to distinguish conceptual design from.(cont.
@YevonZ As I explained in my initial argument evolution is not evidence of lack of creation. A polymorphic computer virus changes charateristics and behavior. The fundamental building blocks- classes, modules, are the same. That virus cannot change into something new like a video game despite it's ability to mutate. Because it evolves, does that mean that nobody programmed the virus? You maintain that since a thing changes it cannot have been created. That is a false assumption.
Multi-verse/Big Bang/Inflation theory:Cosmology,fuck all to do with evolutionary biology
Mathematics: Also nothing to do with evolutionary biology
Physics: See above
So not only can you not tell the diffrence between a software program and some djinn snapping his fingers but you seem to be having issue grasping that none of the sciences you've mentioned are related,much the same as VFX. Big Bang Thoery could be shot down right now and it wouldn't detract from evolution in the slightest.
@YevonZ You're actually arguing that other sciences do not apply to biology? Let me try one last time to open your mind. If this fails then I will have to assume there is no intelligent life in this atheistic religious cult. Inflation theory and quantum mechanics indicate that all things may have appeared out of nothing complete with life. Inflation theory further shows it's possible our universe was spontaneously created from the death of a former universe. I won't get into multi-verse
1.) I've already told you why your argument about the computer virus is a fallacy. You are taking something man made and comparing it to magic. Typical Ray Comfort Bullshit.
2.) I said,and let me be really clear,there is NO EVIDENTIARY SUPPOURT for a creation,that dosent mean that it couldn't have been,but thats rich you beleive in creation and accuse me of a false assumption
USA christians for the most part are too ignorant and uneducated to understand this excellent vid
DrWGONZALEZ 4 hours ago
Pussies can't handle an opposing opinion ?
Hahahaha
SilvioManfredDante85 11 hours ago
like the boogey man under your bed, god never was. Let go of these childish ideas and discover what to believe in something really means.......
benaberry 16 hours ago
It's wrong. You're wrong fatboy. You're wrong just wrong because I said you're wrong and that's just it.
To say that there are no absolutes is an absolute and that would make you totally wrong. hehehehehehe
Can I have your mom? 0_0
CanvasSkinRazorBrush 18 hours ago
how could you not like this?I learn more every time I see these.thanks.
thanksforthemessdick 22 hours ago
great video
Casper3417 22 hours ago
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this is pretty misleading
SilvioManfredDante85 4 days ago
@SilvioManfredDante85
Cool story, bro. Way to elaborate.
TheZooCrew 3 days ago
@SilvioManfredDante85 How so?
AronRa 23 hours ago 14
@AronRa how is it that one part of science is true but then you’re not suppose to connect it to another part of science? Cosmologist conjecture a singularity in the big bang theory and biology conjectures a singularity in another theory, but then to add them up is invalid?
romney27 22 hours ago
@romney27
The Big Bang theory is not a conjecture.
Biology has no singularity.
Please learn what the hell it is you're talking about before you try to pick holes in things you don't comprehend.
rkyeun 21 hours ago
@rkyeun the “singularity” of the big bang theory is pure conjecture. and only exist as a mathematical theory mostly. You do know how scientific conjecture is essential to theory?
according to Aron’s other video, he believes in a biological singularity, as do most biologist I believe. How many genesis of life can there be supposed? Where do all those branches on the evolutionary tree go if not to a singularity? hardly incomprehensible.
romney27 20 hours ago
@romney27
> the “singularity” of the big bang theory is pure conjecture
Nope.
> and only exist as a mathematical theory
Right, so you don't know what theories are, or what the role of math is in science. Thanks for clearing that up.
> according to Aron’s other video, he believes in a biological singularity
I have never heard AronRa nor any other scientist talk about a biological singularity. I don't think you know what the word means or what you're talking about.
rkyeun 20 hours ago
@AronRa cont...Especially considering that most of the conjecturing is really just mathematical and not observational at all. It seems like science has just as many contradictions as anything else, and yet such contradictions don’t seem to discredit science.
romney27 22 hours ago
@romney27
Name one.
rkyeun 21 hours ago
@rkyeun my favorite, it looks like we’re at the center of the universe but we’re not. The observation doesn't equal the reality? not to mention quantum physics vs. Newtonian physics. So what is it? magic? allusion? the super natural? What is the mathematical formula for that? the one that proves we are not at the center of the universe? and the formula that shows it appears that we are at the center. Which one is real? lol the universe is not the math.
romney27 20 hours ago
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@romney27
> it looks like we’re at the center of the universe but we’re not
It doesn't look like we're at the center. It looks like there is no center.
> The observation doesn't equal the reality?
Creationists don't observe reality.
> not to mention quantum physics vs. Newtonian physics
Now you illustrate that you don't understand scale, range, and domain, or margins of error.
> the universe is not the math.
Correct. The math is descriptive, not prescriptive.
rkyeun 20 hours ago
@AronRa Why argue a common ancestor if all life evolved from a singularity? If that’s true then isn’t it true that we’re all related to pond scum?…. be honest.lo
romney27 21 hours ago
@romney27
> Why argue a common ancestor
Because it's true.
> if all life evolved from a singularity
You keep using that word. I don't think you know what it means.
> If that’s true then isn’t it true that we’re all related to pond scum?
Your protons are the protons forged in the big bang and your atoms are the atoms forged in the death of stars. You share that origin with rocks. Some chemicals self-assemble and replicate. Some of those formed cells. You share that with all earth life.
rkyeun 21 hours ago
@rkyeun thanks for the freshman explanations, I like how you rattled all that out. Actually it’s now known that biology itself has created more chemical compounds than did suns. This is over your head I’m sure. post big bang 5,6,7 elements maybe? suns formed and another 1400 elements and compounds came into existence, and then post life another 4,600+ compounds. Life acting on itself is far more emergent than stars ever were, chemically speaking. Your old memes are already outdated. : )
romney27 20 hours ago
@romney27 What are you talking about there are 117 different elements look at the periodic table and they are made by stars by Nuclear fusion "only". chemical compounds are totally different not by fusion in stars but by cooling and physical and chemical properties of compounds.There are no chemicals in star plasma because they cannot exist in plasma only when it cools.The cooling action of planets cause chemicals to react to each other "cooling to form life".
ahhninjadragon 16 hours ago
@ahhninjadragon the elements make up thousands of natural compounds. Since life has been around more compounds have come into existence than were in existence before life. Suns make only so many of them, but “life” made more.
You should listen to some science podcast more often, considering the exponential nature of scientific knowledge.
romney27 14 hours ago
@romney27 No you dont understand chemical elements and chemical compounds are made in a different way. chemical elements made in stars by a fusion reaction.chemical compounds are made by chemical reaction life is a by product of the chemical reaction.you have no clue about scienceThis is the most basic chemistry.
your saying bricks(chemical elements) are houses(chemical compounds)and there is more different kinds houses now so god made bricks and houses that does not follow.
ahhninjadragon 13 hours ago
@romney27 If you are going to talk about science you need to learn basic science.
ahhninjadragon 12 hours ago
@romney27 Do you read the stuff you type? Most of it makes no sense at all.
LemUUU 6 hours ago
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@romney27
"all life evolved from a singularity?"
Nobody claims that "life evolved from a cosmological singularity". The developing universe at some point produced star systems and planets hospitable to chemical reactions. It is at that point that life could form and evolution begin.
MrGralgrathor 13 hours ago
@AronRa Wait, you're asking someone to actually justify the things they say, rather than making vague and baseless assertions?
That's not fair! They might have to put effort into constructing an actual argument!
DoubtIsAVirtue 20 hours ago
@AronRa IM THINKING RADIO ACTIVE HALF LIFE VIDEO NEXT
jock150 11 hours ago
@jock150 Looking forward!
Therealmensa 1 hour ago
@SilvioManfredDante85 I fail to see what is misleading.
laDy8A5737 23 hours ago
@SilvioManfredDante85
Or perhaps you are so used to being mislead by spiritualists that you can't recognize the real world for what it is....
ThieleM 23 hours ago 8
"They're gonna send you back to mother in a cardboard box. YOU BETTER RUN!!!"
number1strat 1 week ago
@number1strat Haven't seen mother in years ! ! Thanks for your kind offer to re-unite us. Could you equipe the box with a blue ribbon? As blue is mother's favourite colour ! Won't mother be pleasantly surprised and DELIGHTED. One thing though. - - Are you sure you can afford the postal expense, as I imagine you living in an abondoned bath-tub by the side of a stagnant river someplace. Again - - Thanks for the offer, but I think I will drive my Porsche next time I visit. Cheers :)
evidenceonlythanx 1 week ago
@evidenceonlythanx I was referring to the clip in the article from Pink Floyd's The Wall. The song is called Run Like Hell, a song, band, and album which I enjoy immensely and felt I would quote. But hey thanks for showing your ignorance on the matter and for exposing your material and immature nature. I needed a good laugh. :-)
number1strat 1 week ago
@evidenceonlythanx Also for someone with "evidence only" in your name, you sure do like to throw around assertions that have no evidence to back them up. Why you mad bro?
number1strat 1 week ago
@number1strat My appologies are owing to YOU personally. From me to you, MY APPOLOGIES. After ''reasoning'' with creationists on certain sites over a very long day, I surfed here and TOTALLY MISTOOK your comments (without researching or checking your site). Arriving at the . . FALSE . . conclusion you were offering a threat to AronRa or, Athiests in general. This was NOT THE CASE. Glad you were able to squeeze a good laugh from MY ERROR.
For those about to rock, we salute you !
evidenceonlythanx 1 week ago
@evidenceonlythanx lol don't sweat it. honestly i am poor and that's what i took more offense to more than anything :P
number1strat 1 week ago
@number1strat Poor ? Well that makes 2 of us. Poor in money but not the desire for life, music, humanism and the seeking of truth as far as the human mind will take us. Time is pressing on me at the moment but will catch you in the future, as I intend to watch more of the clips you have posted on your site, and would enjoy conversing on them. Again thanks for your good humor. Check this. . . Kieth Richards acoustic version of 'Cocaine Blues". . . Just beautifull guitar. Take care .
evidenceonlythanx 1 week ago
@evidenceonlythanx i sure you. you do the same. :-)
number1strat 1 week ago
@number1strat sure WILL, rather
number1strat 1 week ago
Aron, we all know the answer to "life, the universe and everything",
42.
OkamsRazer 3 weeks ago
Creatards' argument: "Den wah we still got monkehs?"
gspendlove 3 weeks ago
I received my Doctorate from Harvard. My I.q. Is 600G.E.(god equivalents ). That's Harvard Alabama community Bible college. The Great flood created the Grand Canyon in 5 min. Evidence: just look at the Grand Canyon. Proof: the Bible and all my teachers at Harvard Bible College. My wife got her doctorate from MIT. Mormon institute of theology and she says the Earth is flat. How come people in China don't fall into Hell? Because Earth is flat. Pwned yeahh!!
paramattic70 3 weeks ago
At 3.48 Aron mentions organic matter found in deep space? Can you point me at any further information about that? Sounds awesome : )
maths82 3 weeks ago
@maths82
Several meteorites have been found to contain carbon-based compounds, such as methane. Sorry to burst your bubble, but "organic" does not mean "pertaining to life."
TheZooCrew 3 weeks ago
@maths82
Are you joking? Do you have zero understanding of how any atom above hydrogen is formed? The information is abundant - unlike relifious fanatics, science does NOT shy away from publishing it's findings. A simple google search could answer all your questions, provided you stay away from fanaticaly religious websites. You REALLY have no reason to ask this question, unless you are deliberately ignorant, which, by YOUR question I must conclude.
tdjdk 2 weeks ago
@tdjdk
Great use of CAPS dude. : )
maths82 2 weeks ago
@tdjdk
Rather strange comment. maths82 was actually asking an honest question. He misunderstood the definition of "organic," but so does almost everyone who doesn't have college chemistry experience.
TheZooCrew 2 weeks ago
@TheZooCrew
*hug* : )
maths82 2 weeks ago
@maths82 go to space(dot)com and type in organic compounds found in space
55metalmonkey 2 weeks ago
@55metalmonkey
Thanks man : )
maths82 2 weeks ago
@maths82 No problem, there is also a ton of videos if you search YT but they mostly focus on extra solar planets.
watch?v=ReD36TtoTRo
55metalmonkey 1 week ago
SCIENCE RULES!!!!
Thinkdeep420 1 month ago
Love this series, AronRa.
MrWajax 1 month ago
I wish I could talk like AronRa :O.
MArtinezNINux 1 month ago
sorry you get 2 posts with the same general idea,got an error the 1st time.
YevonZ 1 month ago
know anything,that is solely in the realm of creationist/theism. Most (not all) state as absolute fact which noone can ever know.
YevonZ 1 month ago
You can believe Evolutionary theory is a religion all you wish that dosent make it true,to paraphrase AronRa here,there is no dogma,no holy text,no sunday service,nothing. It is defended with facts and evidence not faith a 2,000 year old story book and apologetics. The final point you will get no argument from me on.
YevonZ 1 month ago
If only you were an advisor to your goverment :(
Props to you Mr Ra.
Scanini 2 months ago
"The way life forms diversify via descent with modifications"
So it isn't "God did it" it is "Time did it" or "Mutation did it" Yet, neither time nor mutation are creative forces. So the only explanation is that the differences in species are just the expression of innate genetic information in the DNA of each. I won't even expect ArronRa to explain how information got into the DNA through a naturalistic method since information is not a product of matter and is immaterial
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@BornHomophobictOO
" Yet, neither time nor mutation are creative forces. "
What, because you say so? I can provide you a very long list of novel traits generated purely by mutation and natural selection working in tandem.
" information is not a product of matter and is immaterial"
Your implication is a fallacy. DNA contains no information whatsoever. We use information to represent DNA on paper so we can understand it, but DNA is more like a jig or a mold.
TheZooCrew 2 months ago
@TheZooCrew
Are you really going to go with DNA contains no information whatsoever? So the Genes in DNA don't code for specific protiens for specific jobs. It is just a jig.. Wow
You have no traits, other than gene mutation, that lost some information, that regulates some function to cause that function to go aray. Then you show these as mutation and natural selection working as creative forces. They are deteriorating not getting better or creating..
BornHomophobictOO 2 months ago
@BornHomophobictOO Then how come bacteria evolved to eat nylon, that is new information.
johnrainrules 2 months ago
@johnrainrules No it isn't new information. It is that bacteria already have thee genetic ability to eat what is available. The interesting thing about the find I believe that you are talking about is that the researchers took other bacteria and exposed them to the plastic enviornment and they too were able to adjust their digestion to break down the plastic in just a few weeks. Which shows that if you designed organisms to break down waste you would give them this ablility,,, more evidence..
BornHomophobictOO 2 months ago
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@BornHomophobictOO
" It is that bacteria already have thee genetic ability to eat what is available."
Bacteria have existed for much longer than nylon. Also, you clearly have zero education in biochemistry.
TheZooCrew 2 months ago
@BornHomophobictOO
"they too were able to adjust their digestion to break down the plastic in just a few weeks."
This is because bacteria reproduce rapidly. This is how natural selection works...either the organism adapts via mutation and natural selection, or it goes extinct.
Knowing something about biology might come in handy.
TheZooCrew 2 months ago
@TheZooCrew There are none so blind as those who will not see.. Yes they reproduce rapidly. But they can only do that which their genes already allow them to do.. Thus their gene are programmed to adapt it is not a mutation in the way that you mean it, it is just adaptation which isn't evolution macro or micro.. It is just the natural variation inherent in the genome.. By design!!! not by chance...
BornHomophobictOO 2 months ago
@BornHomophobictOO
" Thus their gene are programmed to adapt it is not a mutation in the way that you mean it"
What? Of course it is.
" it is just adaptation which isn't evolution macro or micro"
Adaptation + variation = evolution. Of course, your whole argument is centered around you lying about what evolution is.
School is your friend. Calling others blind when you refuse to learn anything is childish.
TheZooCrew 2 months ago
@TheZooCrew Adaption via the natural variation already coded into the genes = design.. Thus this is not goo to zoo evolution..
I know you will say that it is evolution because it is "change over time" which makes everything evolution even a decaying racoon by the side of the road since it changed over time..
School are you kidding me... You didn't go to school you went to an indoctrination camp...
BornHomophobictOO 2 months ago
@BornHomophobictOO Ah, the lies of a creatard. We have observed several mutations happening today. Also how are animals or people supposed to have all this variation built into our DNA if we were descended from two beings and then had a genetic bottleneck at Noahs Ark. That would entail people dying from inbreeding thanks to all of the incest that happened in your bible.
johnrainrules 2 months ago
you lie DA
You say you don't believe but behave like you do believe there is not God. You work hard to deny the evidence. I am quite honest. But your position is not consistent. You say you don't believe, but you work hard to show why the evidence for God is not real. You are acting out your belief... that there is no God and... you still haven't given me any reason why your position is valid. Like I said earlier, atheism only exists in a vacuum. It has to try and disprove theistic evidences
SuperTruthlover 2 months ago
@SuperTruthlover "You say you don't believe but behave like you do believe there is not God."
I'm sure not going to take your flat earth bible as evidence.
"I am quite honest'
Then why do you make up quotes from the bible that aren't there, and lie about knowing things about science that turn out to be wrong.
"You are acting out your belief... that there is no God and..."
Lying about the definition of atheism is straw manning and goal post moving.
johnrainrules 2 months ago
@johnrainrules
"You say you don't believe but behave like you do believe there is not God."
Is this statement intended to be evidence of my lying?
This is my opinion and like assholes we all have them.LOL
I'm sure not going to take your flat earth bible as evidence.
The 66 books that are inspired by God and written by man NEVER say the earth is flat and there is no word sphere in the Hebrew lanugage to use. So what bible do you mean? Is this flat earth bible an atheist translation?
SuperTruthlover 2 months ago
@SuperTruthlover
" there is no word sphere in the Hebrew lanugage to use."
Lies. The Hebrew word for a sphere like a ball is Dur (דור). The passage in Isaiah uses the word Chug (חוג).
"The 66 books that are inspired by God"
So pi = 3 and leprosy can be cured with dead birds?
TheZooCrew 2 months ago
@TheZooCrew
Dur mean ball not sphere
I will pm you are you error about pi as it is a bit long
here is some wisdom about prayer for you
When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by man. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.
When you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
SuperTruthlover 2 months ago
@SuperTruthlover Pi equals circumference divided by diameter. It is your bible in Kings that says you can have a circumference of 30 and a diameter of 10 of the same measuring unit.
johnrainrules 2 months ago
@SuperTruthlover
"Dur mean ball not sphere"
A ball is sphere-shaped. Holy shit.
"I will pm you are you error about pi as it is a bit long"
Don't bother; I've heard your learned apologetic about uneven cubit lengths. Funny how even the "inspiration of God" couldn't grant either a consistent unit of measurement nor the exact values of mathematically important constants.
TheZooCrew 2 months ago
@TheZooCrew The best part is that the cubits are unequal in different dimensions of the same physical object.
johnrainrules 2 months ago
@TheZooCrew
The 66 books of the bible are not science books and the Pi is not mentioned so why do you think the bible says Pi is three?
Does God ever say Pi is three? No
was there a math test in the bible where the answer is pi?
all we have is a couple of heathen carperters making a bronze bowl
let me ask you
do you think the books of the bible are from men or God?
If you say they are from God why no follow God?
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
@SuperTruthlover "Is this statement intended to be evidence of my lying?" Yes, that is not the definition of atheism. I accept the possibility of God however small. I also accept the possibility of Zeus and the Easter Bunny. Since there is actually more proof for them.
"and there is no word sphere in the Hebrew lanugage to use"
Because they thought the world is flat. Several verses such as Matthew 4:8, Isaiah 11:12, Revelation 7:1, Job 38:13, Daniel 4:11 and more say this explicitly.
johnrainrules 2 months ago
@johnrainrules
And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. This is how you should pray:
SuperTruthlover 2 months ago
@SuperTruthlover Don't forget the commandment about not bearing false witness. Seems you keep forgetting that one.
johnrainrules 2 months ago
ask God for answers sir
Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.
Who of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will our Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him!
SuperTruthlover 2 months ago
@SuperTruthlover "ask God for answers sir"
If the people in the bible did, he sure told them the wrong ones. Especially since Genesis book 1 contradicts book 2. It also states the Earth is flat and that all animals were specially created not evolved. Genetics and fossils prove this to be a lie. That is why creatards get butt hurt when it is shown the book they idol worship isn't science.
johnrainrules 2 months ago
But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face, so that it will not be obvious to men that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. Seek truth
SuperTruthlover 2 months ago
@SuperTruthlover
" Seek truth"
Funny, because you don't do this. You could care less about the truth...you think you already have it and thus you unquestioningly follow what you've been told. Truth may be sought, but never possessed.
TheZooCrew 2 months ago
@TheZooCrew
Funny, because you don't do this. You could care less about the truth...
Someone has lied to you about truth my brother from another mother .Love saying that LOL
Truth can be known and must be protected.
Who told you truth can never be possessed?
Perhaps in science you mean?
The truth that I love my daughter and would die for her can be and it possessed as is the truth of Jesus christ.
SuperTruthlover 2 months ago
@SuperTruthlover "But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face, so that it will not be obvious to men that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you'
Another thing you don't do that is in the bible. Instead you choose to bukkake the internet with your creationist stupidity in as conspicuous a manner as possible.
johnrainrules 2 months ago
@johnrainrules
What creationist arguments have I made my love?
SuperTruthlover 2 months ago
@SuperTruthlover All of them, you cuntpasted all of your arguments about the "true meaning" of your bible from creationist websites. You claimed the DNA for all humans was in Adam and Eve and you use the same micro verses macro evolution lie all creationists use. You also threw a bitch fit about a video satirizing your literal interpretation of Genesis.
I love how creationists are ashamed to admit they are creationists.
johnrainrules 2 months ago
@johnrainrules
All of them, you cuntpasted all of your arguments about the "true meaning" of your bible from creationist websites
please stop lying dogface
I have never cutpased from creationist websites
I did not claim anything about DNA
My personal research showed that evolution does happen within species and I have stateed this to be true.
Why are you so full of hate my friend?
SuperTruthlover 2 months ago
@SuperTruthlover Your the one who threatened me. Also the fact that you lie and present arguments proven wrong decades ago doesn't help. Evolution explains the existence of all species from a common ancestor, your "within species " qualification is nonsense.
When someone asked you what race Adam was you claimed he and Eve had the DNA for all races in them. So you just lied again.
johnrainrules 1 month ago
@johnrainrules
Your the one who threatened me
is that what you think my cowardly friend
No no I did not threaten you as I never make threats.
Do you know what the word means?
When someone asked you what race Adam was you claimed he and Eve had the DNA for all races in them.
No I said that there is not a single reference to race in the 66 books of the bible so to say Adam and Eve were white was conjecture.
please try to follow my comments if you want to accuse me of misleading you.
Thanks
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
@SuperTruthlover Actually you said Adam was both white and black. Your lying about what you said when I showed you that the DNA from the entire human genome could not possibly fit into two people. That's another bit of creationist nonsense, claiming we only lose genetic diversity.
Of course you have to lie because creationism is inherently dishonest and hypocritical. Just like making threats while wondering why other people are full of hate.
johnrainrules 1 month ago
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@johnrainrules
Actually you said Adam was both white and black.
No I would never say something like this so you are mistaken my love.
I won't say you are lying because it is possible you are just simple minded and make many errors
Of course all you have to do is go back and find the comment see who know truth and who is full of the shit LOL
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
God does not love us because of who we are.
God loves us because of who He is.
God is love.
The reality is, loving our enemies, doing good to those who persecute us, praying for the good of those who persecute us is a supernatural gift. It is not something that we can do on our own. Yet without this kind of love taking place our world, our civilization is doomed.
Doing what’s normal is not good enough.
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
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@SuperTruthlover "The reality is, loving our enemies, doing good to those who persecute us, praying for the good of those who persecute us is a supernatural gift"
One you haven't received since you like too lie and threaten people because you are too lazy to learn science.
"Doing what’s normal is not good enough. "
Acting like your God designed us to you mean.
johnrainrules 1 month ago
Truth is, you don’t need God, or faith to do that. You don’t even need to be a decent human being to do that. When people do what we want or say, or when they look or sound how we want, well, even a pagan can love someone like that.
We are to love as God loves. God loves His enemies. God loves those who hate Him. God loves those who try to convince others that He doesn’t exist.
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
@SuperTruthlover "God loves those who try to convince others that He doesn’t exist."
So much that he designed the Universe in a way that contradicts the bible.
"Truth is, you don’t need God, or faith to do that. You don’t even need to be a decent human being to do that. When people do what we want or say, or when they look or sound how we want, well, even a pagan can love someone like that."
Then why do you believe without Jesus everyone goes to hell.
johnrainrules 1 month ago
Because God does so with us, we too are to love those who simply are not loveable.
What sometimes happens, if we’re lucky, is we find someone who is difficult to love, and WHEN we see or hear something that we like, we move toward civility. And then we pat ourselves on the back. “Wow,” we commend ourselves. “That is such a difficult person. I don’t know anyone who likes her, yet I can be kind to her. I’m a pretty good person.”
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
A guy named Matthew recorded what are perhaps Jesus’ most profound and challenging words. It’s often called the Bs, and in one part Jesus is explaining to us that “even pagans can love those who love them back.”
Isn’t that the truth? Sometimes I encounter someone who is, well, let me use one guy’s own words, “People either love me or hate me. And nobody loves me.” I actually like the guy but I’ve met others who I just could not find any aspect that allowed me to appreciate who they were.
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
@SuperTruthlover "A guy named Matthew recorded what are perhaps Jesus’ most profound and challenging words."
Like Matthew 4:8 where he says the Earth is flat and Matthew 21:21 where he says "Jesus replied, "I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done."
Both verses being ridiculously false.
johnrainrules 1 month ago
@johnrainrules
Then that is the same kind of company atheist viability keeps. Therefore, atheism is also fairly unlikely. That is the context of its viability.
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
Atheism is impossible if held positively. Atheism only exists in a vacuum. It must disprove theistic proofs. It cannot prove itself true. It is a very weak place to be intellectually.
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
@SuperTruthlover "It must disprove theistic proofs. It cannot prove itself true. It is a very weak place to be intellectually."
More cuntpasting, word for word from your other posts. I already showed you have no "theistic proofs" so after you were refuted you thought you would wait and hope nobody remembers your discredited argument. Creationism is inherently dishonest.
johnrainrules 1 month ago
@johnrainrules
I said:
“The evidence is that the external cause for the beginning of the universe could not have been natural.”
Are you saying that there IS evidence for a natural cause in existence at the singularity?
Atheist: [No Answer] Just - They were wrong about Thor, so you’re wrong too.
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
@SuperTruthlover "The evidence is that the external cause for the beginning of the universe could not have been natural.”
What evidence?
"Atheist: [No Answer] Just - They were wrong about Thor, so you’re wrong too."
Straw man, the evidence against your religious beliefs are that the claims of your flat earth bible have been shown to be wrong over and over again. A god may exist, but the majority of the bible has been proven wrong.
johnrainrules 1 month ago
@SuperTruthlover
Atheism is merely a rejection of all theistic belief. Your straw man doesn't change that.
TheZooCrew 1 month ago
@TheZooCrew
Atheism is a position that you hold. But, you have no evidence for it so you are contradicting yourself.
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
@SuperTruthlover
"Atheism is a position that you hold."
Someone needs a dictionary. Your grasp of English is tenuous, at best.
TheZooCrew 1 month ago
@TheZooCrew
My cat has no belief in a god or gods. Why are you different than he? Is my cat also an atheist?
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
@SuperTruthlover Sounds like your cat is smarter than you.
johnrainrules 1 month ago
You have a position. Unless it is based completely on blind faith, there must be some reason you hold to it. That would be your evidence. It is your position I am asking you to establish. Not mine. So tell me. Why do you hate God and attack the bible?
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
@SuperTruthlover Your the one that claims to have "theistic proofs", and evidence of a supernatural cause. Those are positive claims. Claims I've proven you and your flat Earth text wrong about.
"Why do you hate God and attack the bible?" I attack the bible because it says things that are lies, and morons like you want it taught in public schools because you are too lazy to do science.
johnrainrules 1 month ago
@SuperTruthlover
That ridiculous apologetic (more like a novel than a message) you sent me about pi is pathetic. You contradict yourself about a million times, from the length of a cubit to your "assumptions" about bowl-making.
Or, should I say, the people you copied and pasted made those mistakes. Nothing you have posted is your own.
TheZooCrew 1 month ago
@TheZooCrew
What is your point atheist?
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
@SuperTruthlover
I'm not an atheist. Your assumption that I am is laughable.
TheZooCrew 1 month ago
@SuperTruthlover "I have never cutpased from creationist websites"
Every one of your sentences that is not spelled wrong and has punctuation is found word for word on the pathlights website. Besides being a baldfaced liar, you also cuntpaste nonsense you don't understand.
johnrainrules 1 month ago
@johnrainrules
What bitch fit my love?
I am a servant of the most high God and I am not ashamed of my Lord Jesus Christ.
You will have to define what a creationist is before you assume I would accept or reject such a label
If you mean someone who says they know the age of the earth is one
I am not one for ex
Do you accept your position as a atheist who rejects the living God Jesus Christ or do you not like such a label?
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
@SuperTruthlover "I am a servant of the most high God and I am not ashamed of my Lord Jesus Christ."
Then why do you have to lie about the bible, and why are you ashamed to admit you're a creationist. Also why do you do the exact opposite of what your flat earth tome teaches.
"Do you accept your position as a atheist who rejects the living God Jesus Christ or do you not like such a label?"
I accept my "position" as someone who does not believe things without evidence from flat Earth texts.
johnrainrules 1 month ago
@johnrainrules
Is it possible that there is an ice cream factory on Jupiter?
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
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@SuperTruthlover "Is it possible that there is an ice cream factory on Jupiter?"
The odds are higher than the existence of your God.
johnrainrules 1 month ago
arer are you relying on one of the dozen or more atheist origin of the universe mythologies being tossed around by those desperate to avoid the metaphysical implications of Big Bang Cosmology?
Atheist: [No Answer] Just - They were wrong about Thor, so you’re wrong too.
Even though atheists have been 100% wrong in their ideas of how this universe came into existence without the presence of anything natural / material in existence at the singularity, they attack the bible
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
@SuperTruthlover Metaphysical implications is usually just double speak for too stupid to learn physics.
Also the Big Bang Theory is an actual scientific theory, not a mismatch of nonsense that is verifiably wrong like Genesis.
johnrainrules 1 month ago
@johnrainrules
I said:
"The evidence is that if the cause was not natural then it must have been outside of nature, or super natural."
Are you saying that everything CAN come from nothing by nothing?
Or that the universe brought itself into existence;
Or that matter created itself;
Or that matter preexisted itself?
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
@SuperTruthlover I'm saying your god can't bring itself into existence, so your just special pleading and using false dilemma to try to prove your flat earth god.
johnrainrules 1 month ago
That is a blanket statement and you are incorrect. Many atheists hold to the positive position that the big bang did occur It is incumbent upon those who makes claims to provide evidence.
SuperTruthlover 1 month ago
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@SuperTruthlover ". Many atheists hold to the positive position that the big bang did occur It is incumbent upon those who makes claims to provide evidence."
And physicists have provided said evidence, most of which disproves Genesis.
johnrainrules 1 month ago
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@SuperTruthlover
" It is incumbent upon those who makes claims to provide evidence."
Red shifting galaxies and the CMB. Basically a slam dunk for the Big Bang.
Ignorance is never an argument.
TheZooCrew 1 month ago
@SuperTruthlover "It has to try and disprove theistic evidences "
There is no such evidence. Especially when you make claims about the Earth being designed 10,000 years ago and that Adam and Eve were real people. There you enter the realm of things that can and have been disproven.
johnrainrules 2 months ago
@johnrainrules
I have said no one know the age of the earth my simple minded friend.
for you
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him."
—John 3:16-17
"For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I raise him up at the last day."
—John 6:40
SuperTruthlover 2 months ago
@SuperTruthlover
Quoting old texts written by ignorant, bigoted goat herders to justify their own inhumanity (and which contain demonstrably false information) is not a valid form of argument.
TheZooCrew 2 months ago
I understand you hate christians as you hate Jesus Christ
My love goes out to you as would my foot if you were near me!
Every decision we make has consequences. A decision to follow Jesus certainly has consequences. We might be ridiculed or even persecuted:
"...men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved."
—Matthew 10:22
"No servant is greater than his master. If they persecute me, they will persecute you also."
—John 15:20
SuperTruthlover 2 months ago
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@SuperTruthlover "My love goes out to you as would my foot if you were near me!"
Christian hypocrisy at its best.
"A decision to follow Jesus certainly has consequences. We might be ridiculed or even persecuted:"
You'll be ridiculed if you accept that a book that claims the Earth is flat is a scientific textbook and use it to reject most of science. Science too hard, try young earth creatardism.
johnrainrules 2 months ago
@SuperTruthlover
You clearly don't actually love anyone.
Why do you hate Zeus? Why do you hate Krishna?
TheZooCrew 2 months ago
@TheZooCrew He hates Zeus because he smited touchdown Jesus with a bolt of lightning. God 0, Zeus 1.
johnrainrules 2 months ago
@SuperTruthlover Here's another quote that shows morality in the bible.
"There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. "
Ezekiel 23:20
I can't believe they let kids read this smut.
johnrainrules 2 months ago
@johnrainrules
poor child you are confused with the poetic language of the book of Ezekiel
let me help you
The she is the passage is not a women but the nation of Israel and the lovers are the heathen nations of Egypt and Assyria and their false gods. words pictures are the best way to convene a complicated message according to World Report Magazines after all.
Grow up
What are you 12?
SuperTruthlover 2 months ago
@SuperTruthlover Poetic language, you mean beastial smut right. Word pictures that involve women getting nailed by animal genitalia show how perverse your flat earth book is.
johnrainrules 2 months ago
There are none so blind as militant atheist dogfaces
God criticized the unwillingness of the hearers to respond. So Jesus warned:
"You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them."
SuperTruthlover 2 months ago
@SuperTruthlover "There are none so blind as militant atheist dogfaces"
I love how an atheist is militant when they tell you things that are factually wrong are wrong, but a theist is only militant when they strap a bomb to something.
"Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them."
Yet faith healing has been shown to be a con time and time again.
johnrainrules 2 months ago
@johnrainrules Yeah what mutations? They happen all the times that is like saying I observe sunlight happening so you can't say the sun doesn't shine. Of course mutations happen and they are BAD for the organism not good. They build up in the Genome and cause BAD things not GOOD. The mytocondrial DNA mutation evidence shows that the first woman was 6,000 years ago that is what SCIENCE says not me SCIENCE why are you against SCIENCE?
BornHomophobictOO 1 month ago
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@BornHomophobictOO
"The mytocondrial DNA mutation evidence shows that the first woman was 6,000 years ago"
No....
It shows the woman which represents the common ancestor for all living humans (not the first woman) lived 150,000-200,000 years ago. Mitochondria only accumulate mutations at roughly 1 per 3500 years. If your story were true there should only be 1-3 variations. Why is there more?
Why are YOU against science?
Danikar 1 month ago
@BornHomophobictOO If you honestly believe that all mutations are bad then you are ignorant of basic biology. Few mutations are bad. A vast majority of mutations are actually neutral, the rest are either advantageous or deleterious. The mytocondrial DNA evidence does not show the first woman was 6,000 years ago, provide a source if that is true. You claim to represent science yet you are evidently too ignorant actually comprehend science or discern credible scientific sources.
buttface112211 1 month ago
@BornHomophobictOO You should watch #8 of these series where Aronra addresses this typical unfounded creationist argument, you might learn something.
buttface112211 1 month ago
@BornHomophobictOO Actually the mutations in the lab were observed adding new and beneficial traits to the animals in question.
The mitochondrial DNA shows that Mitochondrial Eve was 200,000 years ago and Y nuclear Adam was about 80,000 years ago. Thanks for showing that creationism is inherently dishonest by outright lying.
johnrainrules 1 month ago
@BornHomophobictOO "There are none so blind as those who will not see."
These being creationists.
". But they can only do that which their genes already allow them to do"
Not true, we know exactly which genes changed to allow them to eat Nylon and that they were new. Your arguing with observed fact.
johnrainrules 2 months ago
Someone moderately famous, perhaps Dennett, said that Darwinian theory acts as a kind of "moralic acid" that dissolves traditional belief systems and moral codes. Given what traditional belief systems and moral codes have historically given us, perhaps it will be a good thing for society to go on a Darwinian acid trip.
CplFerro 2 months ago
2:35 42!
derman077 2 months ago
I think the point you make at the beginning of the video is the most important point of all: The vast majority of the people in this country, and in the world for that matter, do not understand evolution enough to be able to speak about it intelligently, one way or the other. This is sadly true of so many other topics. The question I always have is, if self-government is a virtue, then how are the uninformed masses (like me!) to govern themselves?
jumpoutatree 2 months ago
smart enough to understand evolution. not smart enough to refrain from feeding trolls.
jumpoutatree 2 months ago
haha "poofed into being" great videos!
cheetocairo 3 months ago in playlist More videos from AronRa
You leave a computer turned on for 100,000,000 years and see if it develops a program by itself. I will use genetic algorithms, polymorphism, inheritance and create programs within hours that use the same basic building blocks, the same interfaces but are all slightly different and can change and adapt, including mutating, replicating etc. I can even do that within a virtual landscape, with real physics. In such a world, can you determine the nature of your god by observing your genetic code?
borrowedstuff 3 months ago
@borrowedstuff
What you fail to realize is that the conclusion of these videos is that creationism is crazily wrong, not that God doesn't exist, for that can never be proven.
Also, the argument is not that a deity COULD NOT have created everything we see through natural causes, but whether it's NECESSARY for a creator. There is nothing we've observed so far that requires a supernatural explanation.
TheZooCrew 3 months ago
@TheZooCrew That is not what the videos portray. The unspoken assumption is that it is disproving God. Most of the video contents are aimed at disproving a specific assumption of an interpretation of scripture which by nature is not a scientific record. God would not have to be a "creator" anyway. And biblical record uses the word "organize". One can create by organizing can they not? MS makes C++, I use C++ to organize instructions into virtual life. Tada! Magic! Who cares if C++ existed prior
borrowedstuff 2 months ago
@TheZooCrew That is not what the videos portray. The unspoken assumption is that it is disproving God. Most of the video contents are aimed at disproving a specific assumption of an interpretation of scripture which by nature is not a scientific record. God would not have to be a "creator" but an "organizer" which is the literal translation. One can create by organizing can they not? MS makes C++, I use C++ to organize instructions into virtual life. Tada! Magic! Who cares if C++ existed prior?
borrowedstuff 2 months ago
@borrowedstuff your arguing someone designing a software program (conceptual) Versus Yaweh saying abra cadabra and creating the universe. (bullshit) That is truly fallacious.
YevonZ 2 months ago
@YevonZ Explain the fallacy. If my program is executed by the password abra cadabra then does that make it magic? Do you not have the mental capacity to contemplate generalities in comparison to daily activities like programming? Think about it. Stop reacting with your gut. This is why people like me believe that evolutionary theory is becoming a religion. It's defended on an emotional level. This video series is probably the first example of a serious intellectual defense. Cudos for that.
borrowedstuff 1 month ago
@borrowedstuff Challenging my mental capacity in the same breath as saying someone designing a software program and el/allah whatever god you subscribe to creating everything are comprable? You could potentially meet the programmer,you could open the program with a hex editor or what have you and see how it was made. The same is not true with the planet or universe or your god,that is why it isn't comprable. It really isn't that hard to see why your comparison dosen't hold up.(cont.)
YevonZ 1 month ago
@YevonZ You are making the logical leap that it's impossible to meet "god". If an ant examines a human do they comprehend what they are seeing/exploring? They can't comprehend a human without a perspective/understanding equivalent to a human(as in your person meets programmer example) Math is getting closer to "hex editing" the origin of the universe and disproving big bang. With a unified math theory man will finally have the tools to BEGIN to comprehend. To say we already know is hubris.
borrowedstuff 1 month ago
@borrowedstuff It is impossible to meet god,there has never been any indication that any god has existed,so I fail to see your point,unless you are talking about a true beliver experiencing god,in which case it is indistinguishable from delusion.I don't understand your fire ant analogy so i can't comment. As far as disproving the big bang,that's just a theory it can potentially be falsified but they haven't done it yet so yea,unless they do it it means nothing. I have never stated I already.cont
YevonZ 1 month ago
@YevonZ I'll remind you of the phrase "abscence of evidence does not prove evidence of absence". As we progress, we understand more about the complexities of the multi-verse and are rapidly approaching a unified mathematical theory. In the world of physics (much ignored by evolutionists except where they can cherry-pick helpful tidbits) big bang has been abandoned. Inflation theory directly impacts the creation process and conflicts with tenets of evolution sacred founding articles.
borrowedstuff 1 month ago
@borrowedstuff I'm sorry but evolution happens,as this series explains so wonderfully, no amount of cosmology,mathematics,physics, could possibly have any effect on that. You are commiting a logical fallacy making the claim that evolutionary biology have anything to do with one another. The big bang theory could be proven false 10 minutes from now and it wouldn't change the FACT that evolution happens in the slightest. You've demonstrated an inablity to distinguish conceptual design from.(cont.
YevonZ 1 month ago
@YevonZ As I explained in my initial argument evolution is not evidence of lack of creation. A polymorphic computer virus changes charateristics and behavior. The fundamental building blocks- classes, modules, are the same. That virus cannot change into something new like a video game despite it's ability to mutate. Because it evolves, does that mean that nobody programmed the virus? You maintain that since a thing changes it cannot have been created. That is a false assumption.
borrowedstuff 1 month ago
Multi-verse/Big Bang/Inflation theory:Cosmology,fuck all to do with evolutionary biology
Mathematics: Also nothing to do with evolutionary biology
Physics: See above
So not only can you not tell the diffrence between a software program and some djinn snapping his fingers but you seem to be having issue grasping that none of the sciences you've mentioned are related,much the same as VFX. Big Bang Thoery could be shot down right now and it wouldn't detract from evolution in the slightest.
YevonZ 1 month ago
@YevonZ You're actually arguing that other sciences do not apply to biology? Let me try one last time to open your mind. If this fails then I will have to assume there is no intelligent life in this atheistic religious cult. Inflation theory and quantum mechanics indicate that all things may have appeared out of nothing complete with life. Inflation theory further shows it's possible our universe was spontaneously created from the death of a former universe. I won't get into multi-verse
borrowedstuff 1 month ago
@borrowedstout Your probelm here is multi-fold.
1.) I've already told you why your argument about the computer virus is a fallacy. You are taking something man made and comparing it to magic. Typical Ray Comfort Bullshit.
2.) I said,and let me be really clear,there is NO EVIDENTIARY SUPPOURT for a creation,that dosent mean that it couldn't have been,but thats rich you beleive in creation and accuse me of a false assumption
YevonZ 1 month ago