King Crimson cannot be considered Avant-Garde. Avant-Garde implies that music sounded like that long after the band's time, no music before, during, or since has ever came close to sounding like Crimso, so they are beyond Avant-Garde. Either that, or they are the most Avant-Garde music artist of this generation. I'd accept either as truth.
I remember around the time this album came out, I was also listening to The Talking Heads, Laurie Anderson, David Bowie, Frank Zappa, and Adrian Belew's debut album, "Lone Rhino". Took a while to figure out that Adrian played with all of them during this time. I love his unique sound and got to see him play an abbreviated set opening for Eric Johnson in Austin around 2009. I was very disappointed he had to cut his set short due to technical glitches, as he was the reason I went to the show.
@dragonpop421 Dude! I was listening to the same music at the same time!!! This definitely brings back memories. Nobody understood this back in Detroit and most people still don't STILL ahead of it's time.....
@dragonpop421 We have very similar musical tastes! I was also listening (and loving) the bands you mention at that time! I feel lucky to have seen Frank Zappa, Laurie Anderson, King Crimson & Adrian Belew in concert. Music is sooo different these days
Well, I wasn't sure if it was a bass or guitar, or other, but what I referred to was the way it was being played that sounded like Les' song at the beggining. Just wondering if Les got inspired by it. Thanks for informing me on the actual instrument's name though. It's this kind of sound design and experimentation that more groups today need to get into. Don't hear much of that.
Don't waste your time listening to this. Go to burning shed and buy the 40th anniversary DTS 5.1 remixed by Steven Wilson and Robert Fripp version on Audio DVD.
Then stick it on your DVD player through your 5.1 system (if you have one, that is)
@walpaxcinema Yes it's true, but CK's early albums sound nothing like this. I think it's interesting how bands evolve through time and how it's often impossible to pinpoint a single source of stylistic or thematic influence (because the source is a decentralized system of human interactions). For example in the mid 60's through the late 70's, the moon was a very common element in a lot of very good songs from Bowie, T. Rex, Television, Crimson King, Van Morrison and many others.
@walpaxcinema They do, but this particular album does not :)
Should be noted that the Remain in Light album by The Talking Heads which this at least seems to draw great influence from featured Adrian Belew on it as well.
@RadicalHippo "The vocals remind me of David Byrne of the Talking Heads." Adrian Belew toured as a member of the Talking Heads live band before this, and was obviously influenced by Byrne.
Doesn't the begining sound like Les Claypool's bass style in Jerry was a Racecar Driver? Sounds just like it! Maybe Les picked up some of it for his song.
oh please... like this song could only be used to ridicule one side of things in politics. don't take a good song and take it out of context to try to justify something personal to you.. and at the same time try to make yourself seem humorous and witty at the same time. i don't care how many people thumbs up your comment. as far as i'm concerned, your comment and my own right here are all elephant talk as well. is it funny now?
It's like if Primus and Tame Impala mixed semen and then carefully planted it into Pink Floyd's vagina, and then magically she became pregnant and had a baby and that baby would grow up to be a acid head: This would be that baby.. King Crimson is the product of obscene sexual activities and semisynthetic psychedelic drugs...Only its not, its the mother of all those mentioned above
@Popstjerna93 sooooo primus and tame imapala had a baby with pink floyd and that baby is king crimson... and king crimson is still the mother of all of them... crazy fuckin shitbro
THE GREAT DECEIVERS(KING CRIMSON tribute band) play on Friday, January 20th, 2012 at 10pm at The Universal Bar and Grill in North Hollywood near Universal City. Don't miss them. They play songs like Starless, Lark's 2, Exiles, 21st, 3 of a Perfect Pair, Vrooom Vrooom and Fracture!!!
@Uncreativeish Go listen to "Walking On The Moon" you little bitch. You don't know a fucking thing about music so SHUT THE HELL UP YOU GREASY HAIRED TWAT !!!
@zkxb I thought you were trashing The Police. I didn't read your original comment. I love King Crimson and I don't love The Police, but still. Now I'm looking at another one of your comments. You do think that you know better than Fripp when it comes to evaluating musicianship. He's an idiot for being friends with Andy Summers and recording with him? I got to see King Crimson for Beat and Three of a Perfect Pair. I have a 'Stolen From Tony Levin' pick. You're tough on Youtube aren't you?
Please listen the New King Crimnson ! a young band from argentina, his name it's "Espias del Umbral" and they are growning, help with a vote!
Copy and past that link !
mibanda.encuentro.gov.ar/espias-del-umbral/
Vamos a ayudar a esta nueva banda argentina que esta fuertisimamente influenciada por los maestros Crimson con un voto para que puedan lograr mostrar su arte tan valioso en estos tiempos, son PIBES de 16,17 años!
I LITERALLY remember buying this album and playing it for the first time. I think I listened to it 20 times in a row. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Totally blew my mind.
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@gingeremy Please, Primus is not in the same universe as KC. They are clowns. Belew & Fripp are more interesting eating lunch than Primus is at their best.
@delmer221 WOW gingeremy didnt even say anything about whos better and you freak out. Ive seen les claypool solo and with primus and ive seen adrian belew solo and they where both equally good! PRIMUS SUCKS ;)
chatter, chit chat. chit chat, chit chat...sounds like alotta women I know...GREAT post, thanks for uploading !!!! saw them at Kent State in '71...before this LP came out. Barnstorm was the opening act....
great song!! in my opinion, it´s strongly influenced by avant-garde, groups such as Captain Beefheart or The Mothers of Invention...but it still sounds like Crimson!
The song by Syd Barrett is called "Effervescing Elephant". It is a terribly funny story song about all the animals in the jungle and a hungry lion. It is the last cut on "Barrett" A totally different but also great song.
If you wanna get more in dept with King Crimson, Check out Adrian Belew, Robert Fripp, these 2 were the main two guys for King Crimson, they also added the likes of Brian Eno. It was all definitely a different style and taste for the mid to late 70's. I can remember sitting in my bedroom putting on the LP, and kicking back and had a feeling of slipping away into some other world. This was definitely a trip back to the past, thank you for your post and enjoy!
@sasybee It's probable they had some influence from Barrett and people related to progressive rock, althought PF were always more commercial with all their special effect shows on stage and their movie, than KC, anyway, they've got a completely different style, musical structures, way to compose and rhythm in their songs, it's absolutelly more pure progressive and even musically complete than PF, also KC has a comedic freak way to play. So, i hope the next time you have a convincing arguement.
@LicenciadoRaulVarela Hallo, I'm not talking about PF, I'm talking about Barrett solo career pieces, and it's a completely different thing as you probably know. The idea behind this song reminds me of Barrett's Word Song, tho the style of rhythm and music is different. The idea of giving out words, which may have a particular relationship or none at all; the "feeling" of a certain attention on spelling. (tbc)
@LicenciadoRaulVarela and more over, I find it very funny that Barrett wrote a song about elephants too! lol Anyway, Barrett solo albums ain't prog at all imho, they are a lot more psychedelic, and I feel this KC is psych and not progr. That, and what i wrote in my last post, is why I find it to be some kinda Barrett influenced, or in the Barrett proper style.
Btw, don't care about being convincing, I just tried to talk about my own opinion about this song and barrett's word song. NOT PFvsKC !
@sasybee but there's a clear prog melody, harmony and rhtyhm exposed, prog has been always the KC seal, i think what's psyche about this song is the lyrics, the crazy and funny way to talk so many disjointed words of a same concept, but nothing else, KC music style has not any relationship to Barrett "psyche" way.
@LicenciadoRaulVarela you're very clear, while probably i'm not: i was just talking about this song and one of Barrett's songs, absolutely NOT about KC career (or even PF career as you guessed in your other post). Everytime i listen to Elephant Talk, I feel a Barrett concept (or just idea) being developed in the KC way. This is what I call influence, and it's not a bad thing. Probably I'm wrong, anyway, but that's what I feel when listening to THIS song. Cheers ^^
@sasybee If this song (or Discipline in general) shares any likeness to anything, it's Remain in Light by Talking Heads, which makes a hell of a lot more sense considering Belew performed and worked on that album the year before the release of Discipline. I don't know where you get Barrett from. As for the "prog-rockness," KC jump through time signatures and key like nobody's business (not necessarily in this song, though). I see nothing psyche about them.
thing is, where Barrett strung together seemingly 'nonsensical' lyrics into absurdist, nearly purposeless structures (with a certain genius, to be sure) Elephant Talk's lyrical stream has a drive and purpose, and the strings of words are quite articulate. They SOUND all whimsy/borogoves, but I think the humor and wit underscore a huge thematic expression. But this too is all just talk...
@sasybee i don't know any song by Barrett about elephants, and i don't find this song more psychedelic than prog, anyway i don't find similar the "word" song at all taking into account, as i said, the composition of the both songs, the Barrett song sounds like a deformed and delirious psyche one, you can discover an interesting way to play music, of course, if you separate all the items and order them with your mind, but it;s absolutelly different, however, KC has a little psyche influence
Adrian Belew: terrible !!
jeanlucchapelon 2 days ago in playlist YouTube Mix for King Crimson
Da lo mismo weón!!
laredd100 2 days ago
King Crimson cannot be considered Avant-Garde. Avant-Garde implies that music sounded like that long after the band's time, no music before, during, or since has ever came close to sounding like Crimso, so they are beyond Avant-Garde. Either that, or they are the most Avant-Garde music artist of this generation. I'd accept either as truth.
DoctorNarpasLoveless 3 days ago
David Byrne and Zappa with his guitar @3:38 drop in on an early Police recording...
6ixtymiles 3 days ago
MAN, how much talent can one band contain. And Zappa echoes in the background constantly.
johseb213 4 days ago
I love King Crimson
kugunga 5 days ago
I remember around the time this album came out, I was also listening to The Talking Heads, Laurie Anderson, David Bowie, Frank Zappa, and Adrian Belew's debut album, "Lone Rhino". Took a while to figure out that Adrian played with all of them during this time. I love his unique sound and got to see him play an abbreviated set opening for Eric Johnson in Austin around 2009. I was very disappointed he had to cut his set short due to technical glitches, as he was the reason I went to the show.
dragonpop421 1 week ago
@dragonpop421 Dude! I was listening to the same music at the same time!!! This definitely brings back memories. Nobody understood this back in Detroit and most people still don't STILL ahead of it's time.....
AikiBudo22 1 week ago
@dragonpop421 We have very similar musical tastes! I was also listening (and loving) the bands you mention at that time! I feel lucky to have seen Frank Zappa, Laurie Anderson, King Crimson & Adrian Belew in concert. Music is sooo different these days
AikiBudo22 1 week ago
Critisism.................wonderful stuff
teddingtontcu 2 weeks ago
Well, I wasn't sure if it was a bass or guitar, or other, but what I referred to was the way it was being played that sounded like Les' song at the beggining. Just wondering if Les got inspired by it. Thanks for informing me on the actual instrument's name though. It's this kind of sound design and experimentation that more groups today need to get into. Don't hear much of that.
artbyvince 3 weeks ago
Don't waste your time listening to this. Go to burning shed and buy the 40th anniversary DTS 5.1 remixed by Steven Wilson and Robert Fripp version on Audio DVD.
Then stick it on your DVD player through your 5.1 system (if you have one, that is)
Awesome.
greeboidable 3 weeks ago
The vocals remind me of David Byrne of the Talking Heads.
RadicalHippo 3 weeks ago
@RadicalHippo Exactly what I was thinking. Only that Crimson predates TH by several years.
walpaxcinema 3 weeks ago
@walpaxcinema Yes it's true, but CK's early albums sound nothing like this. I think it's interesting how bands evolve through time and how it's often impossible to pinpoint a single source of stylistic or thematic influence (because the source is a decentralized system of human interactions). For example in the mid 60's through the late 70's, the moon was a very common element in a lot of very good songs from Bowie, T. Rex, Television, Crimson King, Van Morrison and many others.
RadicalHippo 3 weeks ago
@walpaxcinema They do, but this particular album does not :)
Should be noted that the Remain in Light album by The Talking Heads which this at least seems to draw great influence from featured Adrian Belew on it as well.
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@RadicalHippo "The vocals remind me of David Byrne of the Talking Heads." Adrian Belew toured as a member of the Talking Heads live band before this, and was obviously influenced by Byrne.
JosephNScott2 3 weeks ago
Doesn't the begining sound like Les Claypool's bass style in Jerry was a Racecar Driver? Sounds just like it! Maybe Les picked up some of it for his song.
artbyvince 4 weeks ago 3
@artbyvince Its Chapman Stick, not bass as such. Wierd instrument that about 3 people in the world know how to play.
greeboidable 3 weeks ago
@artbyvince Not really. But Primus was influenced by King Crimson.
TheDeftonesVault 2 weeks ago
There's a song like this on this cd I have called Ultra Lounge. And this group always was good and very weird.
rmtmiller 1 month ago
Definitely better than "Elephant Walk"
daven58100 1 month ago
amped up ghost busters ?
itsoriginalme 1 month ago
this is a killer tune,it's funky,it's experimental,and it's crazy!
Bends95 1 month ago
@DavidHenryHolcomb your comment = this song
oh please... like this song could only be used to ridicule one side of things in politics. don't take a good song and take it out of context to try to justify something personal to you.. and at the same time try to make yourself seem humorous and witty at the same time. i don't care how many people thumbs up your comment. as far as i'm concerned, your comment and my own right here are all elephant talk as well. is it funny now?
natruto 1 month ago
@natruto It was funny because republicans are elephants, am I right? (I'm not even american lol)
simon4tw 1 month ago
@natruto I thought it was pretty funny.
vitamincity 1 month ago
IT's ONLY TALK,BUT THE GUITARS ARE FANTASMAGORICAL
GOOGLE =JOHAN CAPIAU
capjoartist1200 1 month ago
It's like if Primus and Tame Impala mixed semen and then carefully planted it into Pink Floyd's vagina, and then magically she became pregnant and had a baby and that baby would grow up to be a acid head: This would be that baby.. King Crimson is the product of obscene sexual activities and semisynthetic psychedelic drugs...Only its not, its the mother of all those mentioned above
Popstjerna93 1 month ago 40
@Popstjerna93 sooooo primus and tame imapala had a baby with pink floyd and that baby is king crimson... and king crimson is still the mother of all of them... crazy fuckin shitbro
horker69 1 month ago
@Popstjerna93 You, sir, have won teh internetz.
Stiny114 2 weeks ago
@Popstjerna93 marry me
HippieDude1414 1 week ago
トニー・レヴィン、エイドリアン・ブリューを擁した80年代幕開けライン・アップ、クリムゾン"ディシプリン"~この変拍ファンキーさは何だ!協力一致”エレファント・トーク"
blackandtanful 1 month ago in playlist YouTube Mix for King Crimson
this song suits perfectly in woodfall temple in zelda majora's mask
MasterOfTrapos 1 month ago
just shut up and listen !!!
cransever 1 month ago
YOUTUBE COMMENTS, ONLY TALK!
dudektria 1 month ago
@DavidHenryHolcomb And Democratic Debates are a bunch of people talking out there ass.
floydfanTN 1 month ago
@floydfanTN Your comment is only talk!
Uncreativeish 1 month ago
@floydfanTN WHAT A CREATIVE, UNIQUE STATEMENT
drumline17 1 month ago
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THE GREAT DECEIVERS(KING CRIMSON tribute band) play on Friday, January 20th, 2012 at 10pm at The Universal Bar and Grill in North Hollywood near Universal City. Don't miss them. They play songs like Starless, Lark's 2, Exiles, 21st, 3 of a Perfect Pair, Vrooom Vrooom and Fracture!!!
Elyodachido 1 month ago
@DavidHenryHolcomb Republicans have nothing more but shit in their heads. Long live King Crimson!
IronEd636 1 month ago
PRIMUS SUCKS!
LukeRossTheBoss 1 month ago
the lirics are in alphabetical order!!! first A= arguments, agreements
then B= Babble , burble
C= comments, cliches
D=debates, discussions
and then E= Elephant taaaalk
aaaaaaaawwww yyeeaaa this is aaawwweeesooommmee, it changed my way of seeing life ;)
MonsterTaupe 1 month ago
@MonsterTaupe OMFG YOUR A FUCKING GENIUS, DID YOU KNOW THAT.
DrZombie00 1 month ago
@MonsterTaupe WHAT
phyco18 1 month ago
The slashing guitar chord reminds me of Andy Summers on The Police's "Walking On The Moon".
zkxb 1 month ago
@zkxb Don't even compare this band to the police.
Uncreativeish 1 month ago
@Uncreativeish Go listen to "Walking On The Moon" you little bitch. You don't know a fucking thing about music so SHUT THE HELL UP YOU GREASY HAIRED TWAT !!!
zkxb 1 month ago
@zkxb So what you're really saying is Robert Fripp was on cheap drugs when he decided to collaborate with his old friend Andy Summers for two albums.
nkmcfrln 1 month ago
@zkxb I thought you were trashing The Police. I didn't read your original comment. I love King Crimson and I don't love The Police, but still. Now I'm looking at another one of your comments. You do think that you know better than Fripp when it comes to evaluating musicianship. He's an idiot for being friends with Andy Summers and recording with him? I got to see King Crimson for Beat and Three of a Perfect Pair. I have a 'Stolen From Tony Levin' pick. You're tough on Youtube aren't you?
nkmcfrln 1 month ago
Primus does suck <3
zacharius346 2 months ago
ARTICULATE ANNOUNCEMENTS
ryder187mac 2 months ago
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Please listen the New King Crimnson ! a young band from argentina, his name it's "Espias del Umbral" and they are growning, help with a vote!
Copy and past that link !
mibanda.encuentro.gov.ar/espias-del-umbral/
Vamos a ayudar a esta nueva banda argentina que esta fuertisimamente influenciada por los maestros Crimson con un voto para que puedan lograr mostrar su arte tan valioso en estos tiempos, son PIBES de 16,17 años!
Auguespia 2 months ago
I can't help not starting to dance at 1:28 *_*
TomateFouree 2 months ago
just shut up everyone and listen !
cransever 2 months ago
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cransever 2 months ago
@Loewra827
That motto is getting old.... But nice of you to comment it! :)
Brollyhero93TOP10 2 months ago
Primus serves the Throne of The Crimson King.
TheDeagan1 2 months ago
@DavidHenryHolcomb Except when they give Ron Paul a chance to speak.
JTNugget 2 months ago
The FUNK is strong with these gentlemen!
czgibson 2 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for King Crimson
@DavidHenryHolcomb too bad this song makes more sense than anything politicians EVER say.
theendlessenigma 3 months ago
this album has such a unique sound. it's amazing!
HippieDude1414 3 months ago
such a sexy ass song
derp435 3 months ago
Primus should cover this lol.
CoolCoverBro 3 months ago 6
These are words with a "D" this time - lol
Lightmane321 3 months ago
Gracias Licenciado!
CristJianZild 3 months ago
I LITERALLY remember buying this album and playing it for the first time. I think I listened to it 20 times in a row. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Totally blew my mind.
crimsonkng1 3 months ago
@crimsonkng1 was it a shock to go from starless to elephant talk lol
newfuckingwave 3 months ago
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ATTENTION PROG FANS! WE MUST OBEY KING CRIMSON! Every day, we will watch 21st Century Schizoid Man, by Hydra136! In order to get more views, we will click fullscreen every couple seconds, and change the quality every couple seconds! Those are tricks in order to get it more views! If we work together, in about a years, King Crimson will be the highest viewed Music video on Youtube! Spread the word!
Poisonnachos 3 months ago
The break at 3:27 is why i love Adrian Belew ..man he makes it cry !!!
Pentalpha5 4 months ago 11
primus sucks!
PinkZepp 4 months ago
Love Elephantalk. Can't say enuff about it. Nuff said. - I RAEL
CJKraeling 4 months ago
Elephant Talk to the Wind. Mix of I talk to the wind and Elephant Talk.
Poisonnachos 4 months ago
@Poisonnachos Words with a "D" this time!
JonIkean 2 months ago
@JonIkean These are words with a "Q" this time. Painful mouth surgery. Hippo.
Poisonnachos 2 months ago
this song tickles my brain
theColombiano11 4 months ago
The name of this band is King Crimson
ronaldvanderkleij 4 months ago
@Vinomadd yep i just said to someone that opeth is commercialized king crimson
warlockboyburns 4 months ago
And I thought Primus was unique. Definitely see where they got their influence from.
bbeboutuaa 5 months ago
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MajBummer 4 months ago
Golliwogg APPROVES of this song.
GolliwoggMusic 5 months ago
These people must have been high...... on imagination.
DoctorNarpasLoveless 5 months ago
OMFG "jerry was a racecar driver" thats the first thing i thought when i heard this for the first time lol
Paintphotoshop 5 months ago
Elephant 1: Hey man, what you listenin' to?
Elephant 2: This sweet song by King Crimson called "Elephant Talk'
Elephant 1: What is it about?
Elephant 2: Human conversation.
The two elephants analyze the lyrics and plot a scheme to take over the earth. Successfully. (This will happen in the year 2045.)
quidnick 5 months ago
My dad showed me kind crimson, I love my dad
TheWeeklyChannel 5 months ago 3
@TheWeeklyChannel He showed you kind crimson? Well, I'll look up Kind Crimson. No jk I know you meant King Crimson.
Poisonnachos 4 months ago
@Poisonnachos Haha, I didn't even notice! :P
TheWeeklyChannel 4 months ago
KC = Kentucky(fried)Chicken or King Crimson??
I DONT KNOW!
xmanwomanx 5 months ago
@xmanwomanx Failed attempt to be funny, or clever?
I DON'T KNOW!
RageSchism 4 months ago
@RageSchism sorry man i was high... or this song made me feel weird i forget
xmanwomanx 4 months ago
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britocho 6 months ago
O____O h'what? AWESOME.
JeffreyKuntae94 6 months ago
Jerry was an elephant driver?
cadmus98 6 months ago 6
@cadmus98 hahahaha thaats what i was thinking! i would love to hear primus cover this.
grungerobotnow 6 months ago
Awesome! - Check out our Live Jams, we do songs in the style of King Crimson, and 60's Rock. BluesRiverMan
BluesRiverMan 6 months ago
@Brollyhero93TOP10 Apples and oranges, dude
emmetwebster 6 months ago
thats the trippiest song i have heard in a long time
ELItheJEW420 6 months ago
And of course, Primus SAYS they were heavily influenced by KC. Listen to this, and then Jerry Was A Race Car Driver...
gingeremy 7 months ago
@gingeremy Please, Primus is not in the same universe as KC. They are clowns. Belew & Fripp are more interesting eating lunch than Primus is at their best.
delmer221 7 months ago
@delmer221
Dude fuck you, Primus is awesome!!!
Brollyhero93TOP10 6 months ago 17
@Brollyhero93TOP10 Primus Sucks ;)
grevejp44 5 months ago
@Brollyhero93TOP10 Primus sucks.....
brunzmeflugen 4 months ago
@Brollyhero93TOP10 No, Primus sucks
amentjam 2 months ago
@Brollyhero93TOP10
simplegrl11589 2 months ago
@simplegrl11589
Brollyhero93TOP10 2 months ago
@Brollyhero93TOP10 Primus sucks!
PeckyKoolo 2 months ago
@Brollyhero93TOP10 Primus sucks<3 :)
FiHuvWix 2 months ago
@delmer221 WOW gingeremy didnt even say anything about whos better and you freak out. Ive seen les claypool solo and with primus and ive seen adrian belew solo and they where both equally good! PRIMUS SUCKS ;)
jlmpeace27 6 months ago
@delmer221 I'd pay 10 bucks to see Belew and Fripp eating lunch.
Poisonnachos 2 months ago
@gingeremy Obviously they were influenced by KC...listen to Les Claypool's cover of Thela Hun Ginjeet.
Poisonnachos 1 month ago
This is a great song, which kind of reminds me of a band I've heard a few days ago, Aperco. Hear the similarity at their channel apercoband
Tamgeopose1988 7 months ago
Jerry was a racecar drivers sound like a backwards version of this song.
theamazingzivmaster 7 months ago 3
Economia... economia... economia... economia... elephant talk
Andanzasdeunharagan 7 months ago
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Keep it comin' ! In the jungle the mighty jungle the lion sleeps tonight !
IDoNotUseFlourToCook 8 months ago
i want to play a game... oh wait wrong video :-0
djmixup510 8 months ago
frank zappa type of guitar solo in here
monkeybutler20 8 months ago
WOW!!! Now I know where Les Claypool ripped his sound.
UKNOWIT88 8 months ago
Jerry was a racecar driver?
SheenVsRollins 8 months ago 36
@SheenVsRollins Come again???
manuel8887 3 months ago in playlist Favoritos de manuel8887
Oh my god, i just noticed that, at times, the guitar sounds a lot like... an elephant :D
FredericoCoelhoNunes 8 months ago
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chatter, chit chat. chit chat, chit chat...sounds like alotta women I know...GREAT post, thanks for uploading !!!! saw them at Kent State in '71...before this LP came out. Barnstorm was the opening act....
cb3961 8 months ago
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cb3961 8 months ago
great song!! in my opinion, it´s strongly influenced by avant-garde, groups such as Captain Beefheart or The Mothers of Invention...but it still sounds like Crimson!
LeidseMorgueplein 8 months ago
these are words with a d this time
newfuckingwave 8 months ago
these comments are only talk
toki70045 8 months ago 2
This song has been in my head since I was first turned on to it in 83. I haven't heard it since until now. "... Brouhaha"
robtsee 8 months ago
ギターで象の鳴き声を出してしまう発想が、凄過ぎる。
mihashimichiyafan 8 months ago
The song by Syd Barrett is called "Effervescing Elephant". It is a terribly funny story song about all the animals in the jungle and a hungry lion. It is the last cut on "Barrett" A totally different but also great song.
kvkrob 8 months ago
Belew's solo after "Double talk, double talk." at 3:26 changed my life when I first heard it.
IwanttoliveinParis 8 months ago
what the heck is this crap... sounds like talking heads? he cant even say arguements properly.
noodlesmealey 9 months ago
If you wanna get more in dept with King Crimson, Check out Adrian Belew, Robert Fripp, these 2 were the main two guys for King Crimson, they also added the likes of Brian Eno. It was all definitely a different style and taste for the mid to late 70's. I can remember sitting in my bedroom putting on the LP, and kicking back and had a feeling of slipping away into some other world. This was definitely a trip back to the past, thank you for your post and enjoy!
walleyedogpk 9 months ago
Talk...its only talk... arguments..agreements.......love this Droo HAHA
walleyedogpk 9 months ago
Don't ever forget the important contribution by Bill Bruford.
widebody123 9 months ago
Sorry... I meant E... I'm kinda new at this KC thing
joctheviper1 9 months ago
I'm I the only one this is disapponted they end at D. :-)
joctheviper1 9 months ago
Adrian Belew shines like a beacon on this.What a great combination he and Fripp were and are.
tonysuss 10 months ago
I guess this is definitely Barrett-influenced
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watch?v=smVYvnnqewA&feature=related
and let me know
btw: KCrocksalltheway
sasybee 10 months ago
@sasybee I already listen syd! this is definatly infulenced by him, but sadly it didn't help them to much
qo999966666 9 months ago
@sasybee Most certainly not Barret influenced.
MrAdrianbelew 9 months ago
@sasybee Actually, check out Primus' "Jerry Was a Race Car Driver", very VERY similar to the bass line in this...
BODYSLAMwrestling 9 months ago
@sasybee It's probable they had some influence from Barrett and people related to progressive rock, althought PF were always more commercial with all their special effect shows on stage and their movie, than KC, anyway, they've got a completely different style, musical structures, way to compose and rhythm in their songs, it's absolutelly more pure progressive and even musically complete than PF, also KC has a comedic freak way to play. So, i hope the next time you have a convincing arguement.
LicenciadoRaulVarela 9 months ago 14
@LicenciadoRaulVarela Hallo, I'm not talking about PF, I'm talking about Barrett solo career pieces, and it's a completely different thing as you probably know. The idea behind this song reminds me of Barrett's Word Song, tho the style of rhythm and music is different. The idea of giving out words, which may have a particular relationship or none at all; the "feeling" of a certain attention on spelling. (tbc)
sasybee 9 months ago
@LicenciadoRaulVarela and more over, I find it very funny that Barrett wrote a song about elephants too! lol Anyway, Barrett solo albums ain't prog at all imho, they are a lot more psychedelic, and I feel this KC is psych and not progr. That, and what i wrote in my last post, is why I find it to be some kinda Barrett influenced, or in the Barrett proper style.
Btw, don't care about being convincing, I just tried to talk about my own opinion about this song and barrett's word song. NOT PFvsKC !
sasybee 9 months ago
@sasybee but there's a clear prog melody, harmony and rhtyhm exposed, prog has been always the KC seal, i think what's psyche about this song is the lyrics, the crazy and funny way to talk so many disjointed words of a same concept, but nothing else, KC music style has not any relationship to Barrett "psyche" way.
LicenciadoRaulVarela 9 months ago 2
@LicenciadoRaulVarela you're very clear, while probably i'm not: i was just talking about this song and one of Barrett's songs, absolutely NOT about KC career (or even PF career as you guessed in your other post). Everytime i listen to Elephant Talk, I feel a Barrett concept (or just idea) being developed in the KC way. This is what I call influence, and it's not a bad thing. Probably I'm wrong, anyway, but that's what I feel when listening to THIS song. Cheers ^^
sasybee 9 months ago
@sasybee If this song (or Discipline in general) shares any likeness to anything, it's Remain in Light by Talking Heads, which makes a hell of a lot more sense considering Belew performed and worked on that album the year before the release of Discipline. I don't know where you get Barrett from. As for the "prog-rockness," KC jump through time signatures and key like nobody's business (not necessarily in this song, though). I see nothing psyche about them.
MrAugust767 8 months ago 5
@sasybee
Even Torsofuck wrote a song about elephants. That doesn't mean their brutal gargles are influenced by British Prog Rock.
Only joking :P
sedsci 7 months ago 2
@sedsci lol that song is fucked up
slideon 5 months ago
@LicenciadoRaulVarela how is PF commercial?
Sk8ForAllMyLife 5 months ago
thing is, where Barrett strung together seemingly 'nonsensical' lyrics into absurdist, nearly purposeless structures (with a certain genius, to be sure) Elephant Talk's lyrical stream has a drive and purpose, and the strings of words are quite articulate. They SOUND all whimsy/borogoves, but I think the humor and wit underscore a huge thematic expression. But this too is all just talk...
redcatfive 4 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for King Crimson
anagrams... arbitration.. alliteration.... antagony......ass talk.....
mensamoo 10 months ago 4
I see where Primus got their main influence! :)
Brollyhero99TOP10 10 months ago
@Brollyhero99TOP10
Primus fucking suck.
Carthsgtr 9 months ago
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Carthsgtr 9 months ago
@Brollyhero99TOP10
Never has the word "fucking" placed so much ambiguity in to a statement.
Carthsgtr 9 months ago
@sasybee i don't know any song by Barrett about elephants, and i don't find this song more psychedelic than prog, anyway i don't find similar the "word" song at all taking into account, as i said, the composition of the both songs, the Barrett song sounds like a deformed and delirious psyche one, you can discover an interesting way to play music, of course, if you separate all the items and order them with your mind, but it;s absolutelly different, however, KC has a little psyche influence
LicenciadoRaulVarela 9 months ago
I love it how they start with words with, A, then B, C, D, elephant talk? Elephant talk?! ELEPHANTE TALK?!?!
Abiisimple 10 months ago 2
SSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHTT
erikm12 10 months ago
Jerry Was A Race Car Driver?
federicok 11 months ago 2
@federicok
That was Jimmy.
cincaxam 10 months ago
@federicok
That was Jimmy.
cincaxam 10 months ago
Is this track inspired by Dave Byrne? Possibly - there's no shame in that.
I was litening to Robert Fripp long before Psycho Killer hit the airwaves...this is a superb bit of funk rock!
Beside that, this is very Todd Rundgren...serious production!
Ferguccio 11 months ago
@Ferguccio Well Adrian Belew was in talking heads for a while before he joined Crimson, so thats probably where it came from
erikm12 10 months ago
@erikm12 I didn't know that...thanks :)
Ferguccio 10 months ago
@erikm12 Aha....cheers my dears! :)
Ferguccio 4 months ago
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Ferguccio 11 months ago
What did I just listen to?
Zaxteratron 11 months ago
Geniale
Kappalaudio 11 months ago
m a g n i f i c e n t
, isn't it?
zbnjg 1 year ago 32
@zbnjg Yes. Yes it is :D
Typhoon1021 10 months ago