don't like that they don't have something like deflector about forward of ejection port,for instance you shoot very fast,and one of previous case jumps in face of the barel and this will afect 2nd bullet trajectory.
@MMarcan14 my mistake, it is not called 7.62 x 39mm NATO. it is simply 7.62 x 39mm, it is the round the Ak-47 and many variants chamber. so it does exist. but, i do now know that , assuming you are correct, what the metric equivalent is of .308.
@ericbarasch123 Yeah, i presumed that was just a simple mistake :) I just wanted to say that the 7.62x39 isn't the standard NATO round ;)
Wikipedia says: "Although not identical, the 7.62×51mm NATO cartridge is similar enough to the commercial .308 Winchester that the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute (SAAMI) considers it safe to fire the NATO round in weapons chambered for the commercial round."
absolutely need to be using a polymer/steel magazine similar to a surefire/glock hybrid.
Otherwise-YePPPPPPPPPPPPP! I want one.Was goin to go 300 blackout but now ahm p'pared to finally purchase a K gun.I will deem these to be first line firearms if I am elected president.
Probably ordering KSG this week. Will order up one of these as soon as the scum in Rome, um NY, um DC send me my money back after April. Good review, especially the trigger description that is lacking is most reviews. Would you say the recoil is comparable to the FAL? I swear the FAL I used to have felt better than the ARs! Perfect 3 gun match; RFB, KSG and my XDm in 45. I should take my PDW design to Kel - Tec, it seems right up their alley.
That's a sweet gun! The scope looks like it's about 6" above the barrel though! That's something you'd have to constantly consider and compensate for at short ranges especially.
The shell ejection seems possibly problematic. As I'm seeing you test fire it, I notice spent cartridges flying very close to the front of the barrel. Just seems to me that there is a possibility of a case being in front of the muzzle (due to the ejection) when the trigger is pulled again, thus firing around into a spent case. I know Kel-Tec is a good company and have surely done extensive testing, but I'd really like to hear their thoughts on this concern. Nice rifle though!
@FirearmsFreak The ejection port is far enough from the muzzle to not be an issue. By the time the spent shells get to the port, they don't have the force to fly out, but rather just fall out, harmlessly. And that's on the carbine version.
@edgybob1 hey there! I have a mepor 21 Israeli reflex sight on mine right now with magpul mbus back up sights. I just ordered a Meopta 1-4/22 meostar r1. I coupled it with the QD bobro 30mm mount. This way I have a variety of sights to use. The bobro allows me to keep the glass in my pack until needed.
I was able to get the meopta for 579 shipped which is less than dealer cost! Primary arms .com has them..
Other alternatives is the trijicon in similar power or S&b or zeiss.
Beautiful weapon. It was just a matter of time before we did something like the Israeli's design. I love the forward ejection, being left handed.
Don't get me wrong now, I'm a big fan of Texas and your channel. Just try this on for size: it's ambidextrous, not ambidextrious. It's 4 syllables, not 5, no "i" in the last of the word. I'm just sayin'. You know I love you, man.
@sabr686 you should do you research. you will find that kel-tec produced a 5.56 version of this in the 90's that was based off of another design. If anything, IMI copied kel-tec. And, the internals are far different with a patented double extractor with forward ejection for live ambi function. you dont have to move the charging handle. The Israeli almost always copy something and make it good.
@STORM6490MT Amen. If they're just going to shit on America every chance they get while we fight their wars, fund them, and let them live in our country with diplomatic immunity.... we should just kick them the fuck out. Sell their building to the highest bidder. Maybe China will take them in. Let the Chinese deal with those corrupt assholes. They'd fit right in.
The foward ejection of the spent brass is a neat concept but I doubt anyone in a serious combat environment would want to always make sure all the brass has been emptied out or risk having spent brass flying out of your weapon while on the move.
Are 7.62 nato and 308 the same thing because yous said 308 and the rifle has 7.62 nato stamped on it im not that knowledgeable in all the different rifle cartridges and how similar or different they are
@gunsmith93 They are very close. The 7.62x51mm NATO is the military cartridge, and can be loaded to slightly higher pressures. Thus, a gun chambered for 7.62mm NATO can safely fire both cartridges, while a gun chambered in .308 Winchester should only be used with commercial .308 rounds.
@gunsmith93 Exactly. Although it is in a way more dangerous, as the military cartridges actually fit easily in the civilian guns not made for that cartridge. Same as .38 vs .357, although a .357 is too long to fit in all .38s.
Sootch, thanks for the review. Do you recall what scope was installed on that RFB? I'm looking for an optic with long eye-relief, and it seems that would fit the bill.
Yes, they are available in CA with a modified mag release. (bullet button) It's a bummer to need a tool punch or bullet tip to drop the mag but it still makes for a lot of fun at the range if you're stuck in CA. LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!
Out of curiosity, who provided this rifle? I ask because it has the newest upgrades, including the 2nd generation gas system (you can tell by the different gas plug and the small weld mark on the front right of the carrier). I'm curious if this was sent in for retrofit or came from the factory that way.
@Cliffswallow looks to me like he is at the lucky gunner shoot that was for big time youtube gun guys, was probably one of the guns that got to shoot for free with as much ammo as they wanted :'(
Thanks Mr.Sootch! I realize this is a bullpup design...but I'm curious as to the twist rate of the barrel/ barrel length / and what kind of velocity/range can be expected with this system...Suppose you could engage 1000 with the right match grade or hand loaded ammo on a consistent basis? Also...After extended firing I'm curious to know how far your groups would open up...H-Bar?
@classof77 New production Korean mags are available. I personally have not tried them (yet) but I have heard mostly good things and plan to buy some in the future. Also I believe DSA is producing FAL magazines.
@classof77 I've noticed that they're website has been saying they're "coming soon" for years, but I heard from someone else who claims you must call them and says he has purchased their magazines before. If I remember, I'll call them this week and find out for myself. If they are in fact selling them, I'll let you know (if I remember, lol).
@classof77 I called DSA today and they said the 30 rounders are available (over the phone only) for $24.95. They do not have 20 or 25s available currently, but I would sure like to buy some 30s, and hey, that's not a bad price at all!
@classof77 only a bazillion austrian metric Styer magazines out there to work perfectly in your rfb. IMI also works, millions of them. I just purchased two new austrians for 40 bucks mint condition with a leather pouch. No limitations on the magazines. New production mags are also out now including a 30 rounder.
Just did another Google for metric FAL mags. Here's what comes up: (1) lot of b.s. Thermold mags -- no thank you; (2) a few beat-up Austrians in dodgy condition; (3) forum thread entitled "Why are FN/FAL Mags So Expensive?"; (4) Mint Metric FAL Mags from DSA "OUT OF STOCK"; (5) Beat-Up DSA Mags "OUT OF STOCK."
No limitations, eh buddy?
You can scrounge SOME out there. But compared to, e.g., .308 AR mags -- it's a VERY limiting component for this rifle, today.
@STORM6490MT I do see the US made 30 round jobs on DSA's website -- those are new. We'll see if they work. Great if they do, though they look awkwardly protruding compared to the 20 rd mags the rifle is designed for.
And I bet a dangly 30 rd mag would be particularly awkward with a bullpup like the RFB, whose whole point was supposed to be compactness.
I like the forward ejection, just like on the FN F2000. Keeps brass out of the face of your friend beside you. I wonder how reliable the system is though.
I am looking forward to the new Keltec "Zombie Killer" 12 gauge bullpup, 14+1 pump shotgun.
I'd like to see you do a review and test fire of these new AR stocks that enable anyone to "bump fire" like a full auto weapon without the stamp, hassle or cost. It is called the Slidefire Solutions stock, and it runs about $375. It is a pretty low cost full auto substitute. I would like to buy one while they are still legal, but I want an independent review.
I love it. But two things, 1.) I want it in 5.56 and 2.) it is too spendy. But I love it. I have waited for a good review and once again Don you pull it off.
@sootch00 great vid. I'd love one of those but... Can't find one and the price point is a bit high for me. Keep up the great work fighting those dang zombies!
This gun doesn't look fun to shoot at all. Don't you feel all the recoils? It is a pain in your neck, man. Kel-Tec should make them in .223 rather than .308. Short gun uses large cartridge never seems to work.
Thanx for the review Sootch00, I will be attending an active shooter (school shooting) class in a few days as an LEO and I am using my own personal RFB with department ammo to shoot the course along with my CZ75B in .40, should be a blast.......... literally.
Cool rifle; I shot one a couple of weeks ago at the range. A gun dealer had one to see what people thought. I liked it OK, but $1,800 is a bit rich for my blood for rifle in a cal. that also cost almost $1 a round. If they could get the price point down to something reasonable and chamber it in x39 I'd own one today.
@AzNd3v1L3 The shells do not eject with any force. The recoil of the rifle was simply throwing the shells out in the video. Normaly there are 3 or 4 shell cassings sitting in the ejection port that fall out when you tilt the rifle forward, or are pushed out from the next few shells.
Oh, and I think you have to go for a bull pup design in the zombie apocalypse. Long barrel length for accuracy but compact design for manouevarability . I'd go for the FN P90 myself with the 557 on my hip. Added bonus that they use the same ammo so if you get over run by the undead you have less to worry about in the panic =)
Hi Sootch, nice video. Hope you'll have some time in the future in depth. I'm looking forward to such a review. It's a quiet interesting rifle but unfortunately Kel Tec doesn't export to the European Union. Would like to shoot it once just to feel how it matches up against a FAL.
Not widely available, only seen one for sale in my area. Certainly an interesting concept firearm, but I rather go with Colt’s new SP901 modular semi-auto 7.62 / 5.56 NATO carbine. Or the FN semi-auto 7.62 NATO SCAR17S.
Never shot one myself, BUT held one and looked it over real real good, I liked it,, the price scared me off,,,wait for a while and find it street price, but yes, I agree she's sweet!
Hey Sootch, I like this, but would be lying if i said it was on the wish list. I need to see this VERY new rifle get beat up a bit more in real life situations first. I do have high hopes for it. Nice quick peek at an innovative design from a good company.
They have a 5.56 prototype, don't know if it will come to production. The owner does not want to hire anymore people right now cause of the economic instablity and legal issues with AWB.
i was trained on the british SA80, it is a good weapon but u can't fire it left-handed. im right-handed but there are still times when it would have been better and safer to shoot it in the left, around left-hand corners and sometime breaching a door that might open funny..
@AzNd3v1L3 The cases gently fall out. Supressors are a non issue. Check out Gunblast's video. The supressor he showcases is incredible for performanc. I own and RFB FYI.
Cool rifle. I was just looking at one of these at my local gun store the other day, I was surprised to how light it felt. What do you think of the reliability of this rifle, any malfunctions or jams?
nice rifle, looks quite futuristic, like what a scifi space marine will use.
usually i dont like the looks of bullpup rifles, although they have obvious advantages over regular style, they kinda look like if they had been assambled wrong. This one looks great
@sootch00
i know this is unrelated, but where do you get the intro music?
ATTACKOFTHEBENZ 1 month ago
God bless America. Nah he wouldn't do that if he had any sence.
powmful 1 month ago
hey Fungun you'd keep the ruger scout or the RBF for SHTF?
valflyinf 1 month ago
It looks a lot as halo's DMR.
BenjaxAraya 1 month ago
Why do people insist on pronouncing ambidextrous as "ambi-dex-tree-us"?
I don't get it.
wtfdudenotcool101 1 month ago
The ejection port is way behind and to the left of the barrel. The likelihood of that happening is really slim. But an interesting point...
ext456 1 month ago
don't like that they don't have something like deflector about forward of ejection port,for instance you shoot very fast,and one of previous case jumps in face of the barel and this will afect 2nd bullet trajectory.
Sashalexandros 1 month ago
whats one cost!!!!!!
erinblack990 1 month ago
is .308 the same round as 7.63 x 39mm NATO? and can this firearm chamber a 7.62 x 39 NATO?
ericbarasch123 1 month ago
@ericbarasch123 No, there isn't such thing as 7.62x39 NATO, there is only 7.62x51 NATO, and yes, .308 is practically the same thing as 7.62x51 NATO
:)
MMarcan14 1 month ago
@MMarcan14 my mistake, it is not called 7.62 x 39mm NATO. it is simply 7.62 x 39mm, it is the round the Ak-47 and many variants chamber. so it does exist. but, i do now know that , assuming you are correct, what the metric equivalent is of .308.
ericbarasch123 1 month ago
@ericbarasch123 Yeah, i presumed that was just a simple mistake :) I just wanted to say that the 7.62x39 isn't the standard NATO round ;)
Wikipedia says: "Although not identical, the 7.62×51mm NATO cartridge is similar enough to the commercial .308 Winchester that the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute (SAAMI) considers it safe to fire the NATO round in weapons chambered for the commercial round."
MMarcan14 1 month ago
I want
1crimm 2 months ago
works well with brass and steel?
leomantles 2 months ago
i see a vector gun
eldiaboner 2 months ago in playlist More videos from sootch00
absolutely need to be using a polymer/steel magazine similar to a surefire/glock hybrid.
Otherwise-YePPPPPPPPPPPPP! I want one.Was goin to go 300 blackout but now ahm p'pared to finally purchase a K gun.I will deem these to be first line firearms if I am elected president.
hpmacmurray 2 months ago
Probably ordering KSG this week. Will order up one of these as soon as the scum in Rome, um NY, um DC send me my money back after April. Good review, especially the trigger description that is lacking is most reviews. Would you say the recoil is comparable to the FAL? I swear the FAL I used to have felt better than the ARs! Perfect 3 gun match; RFB, KSG and my XDm in 45. I should take my PDW design to Kel - Tec, it seems right up their alley.
ShootBlueHelmets 3 months ago
needs a break
YOWHATTHEHELLUP71 3 months ago
He said ambidex "tree" ous
Vitaminj1973 4 months ago
Also wondering how accurate this gun is...
heysmithy 5 months ago
That's a sweet gun! The scope looks like it's about 6" above the barrel though! That's something you'd have to constantly consider and compensate for at short ranges especially.
heysmithy 5 months ago
how does the shell propel itself out of the ejection port like that? is it slanted?
Posterharpua 5 months ago
Thats a Famas
smandic 5 months ago
like the gun however i cant find much for mag pouches. every time i look for pouches i find stuff for the ar-15 and ak
choopdewoot 6 months ago
When I heard, "... it is a very safe bull pup design which has two steel plates 1.6mm thick that will separate your face" I was like WHAT???
yodaofcoolness 7 months ago
looks great but it would be a problem for the hot casings in your face
mustang451000 7 months ago
@mustang451000 No it wouldn't. That's why it was built. FORWARD EJECTING. Watch the whole thing next time.
mechmusician 6 months ago
The shell ejection seems possibly problematic. As I'm seeing you test fire it, I notice spent cartridges flying very close to the front of the barrel. Just seems to me that there is a possibility of a case being in front of the muzzle (due to the ejection) when the trigger is pulled again, thus firing around into a spent case. I know Kel-Tec is a good company and have surely done extensive testing, but I'd really like to hear their thoughts on this concern. Nice rifle though!
FirearmsFreak 7 months ago
@FirearmsFreak The ejection port is far enough from the muzzle to not be an issue. By the time the spent shells get to the port, they don't have the force to fly out, but rather just fall out, harmlessly. And that's on the carbine version.
mechmusician 6 months ago
Thx. for the review...
madmaxd1 8 months ago
Sootch,
I am on a waiting list for one of the RFBs. What brand and type of scope would you suggest would work great on this gun?
Great video.
Bob
edgybob1 8 months ago
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STORM6490MT 7 months ago
@edgybob1 hey there! I have a mepor 21 Israeli reflex sight on mine right now with magpul mbus back up sights. I just ordered a Meopta 1-4/22 meostar r1. I coupled it with the QD bobro 30mm mount. This way I have a variety of sights to use. The bobro allows me to keep the glass in my pack until needed.
I was able to get the meopta for 579 shipped which is less than dealer cost! Primary arms .com has them..
Other alternatives is the trijicon in similar power or S&b or zeiss.
STORM6490MT 7 months ago
Salivates at thought of owning an RFB... gets depressed because of Canadian bullpup weapons ban.
icantafford 8 months ago
@icantafford what are you talking about? I have seen several Canadians with RFB rifles. Her is a site that sells them. vaultdistribution dt com
STORM6490MT 7 months ago
Beautiful weapon. It was just a matter of time before we did something like the Israeli's design. I love the forward ejection, being left handed.
Don't get me wrong now, I'm a big fan of Texas and your channel. Just try this on for size: it's ambidextrous, not ambidextrious. It's 4 syllables, not 5, no "i" in the last of the word. I'm just sayin'. You know I love you, man.
sabr686 9 months ago
@sabr686 you should do you research. you will find that kel-tec produced a 5.56 version of this in the 90's that was based off of another design. If anything, IMI copied kel-tec. And, the internals are far different with a patented double extractor with forward ejection for live ambi function. you dont have to move the charging handle. The Israeli almost always copy something and make it good.
STORM6490MT 7 months ago
@STORM6490MT I stand updated. Thank you, my friend!
sabr686 7 months ago
dear santa.... I've been a good boy this year......
wicked1z 9 months ago
what is MSRP?
bobiscool308 9 months ago
@bobiscool308 $1880
WurledPeas 9 months ago
Looks liek a fun rifle.
Dogsoldier22 9 months ago
Hey Sootch, do you put compression on your voice?
TheGuyWithAWeirdName 9 months ago
I want one.
ETHEREALYOGA 9 months ago
Would you recommend this for an individuals first battle rifle?
gonullyourself 9 months ago
Do Want!
chuckmikey001 9 months ago
Very nice!
AppalachianFreedom 9 months ago
A good article that every gun owner needs to read was published in Forbes today. Look up “U.N. Agreement Should Have All Gun Owners Up In Arms”
Everett07630 9 months ago 17
@Everett07630 If that bill gets passed and ratified by the senate, war will come. I can feel it.
bjpw1234 9 months ago
@bjpw1234 yeah, civil war #2
TommysToe2 8 months ago
@Everett07630 NRA ILA won't let that happen....and if it does SHTF...
GrenMoyo 8 months ago
@Everett07630 fuck the UN, I cant wait to make furniture out of all the blue helmets.
STORM6490MT 7 months ago
@STORM6490MT Amen. If they're just going to shit on America every chance they get while we fight their wars, fund them, and let them live in our country with diplomatic immunity.... we should just kick them the fuck out. Sell their building to the highest bidder. Maybe China will take them in. Let the Chinese deal with those corrupt assholes. They'd fit right in.
mechmusician 6 months ago
@Everett07630 You should look at the North American Union Which will destroy the U.S and the constitution. UNACCEPTABLE!!
GOD719 3 months ago
GBA! LLTR!
CTKTMRIDER 9 months ago
The foward ejection of the spent brass is a neat concept but I doubt anyone in a serious combat environment would want to always make sure all the brass has been emptied out or risk having spent brass flying out of your weapon while on the move.
crownroyal111 9 months ago
@halo4Lyf I was thinking the same thing looks so much like it.
MrBill297 9 months ago
So,I guess it would be possible to shoot your own flying brass then
wawawewaryan 9 months ago
what are we talking about take down wise is it easy to clean or when i pull something off do i end up with parts just falling out?
The85F0X 9 months ago
coooool...
bondabadouch 9 months ago
Are 7.62 nato and 308 the same thing because yous said 308 and the rifle has 7.62 nato stamped on it im not that knowledgeable in all the different rifle cartridges and how similar or different they are
gunsmith93 9 months ago
@gunsmith93 They are very close. The 7.62x51mm NATO is the military cartridge, and can be loaded to slightly higher pressures. Thus, a gun chambered for 7.62mm NATO can safely fire both cartridges, while a gun chambered in .308 Winchester should only be used with commercial .308 rounds.
JMunn55 9 months ago
@JMunn55 Ohh I see so its alot like how you can shoot .223 out of a 5.56 but not the other way around and 38 out of a 357 mag
gunsmith93 9 months ago
@gunsmith93 Exactly. Although it is in a way more dangerous, as the military cartridges actually fit easily in the civilian guns not made for that cartridge. Same as .38 vs .357, although a .357 is too long to fit in all .38s.
JMunn55 9 months ago
Holy shit, it's the Battle Rifle from the Halo franchise!
Halo4Lyf 9 months ago
Sootch, thanks for the review. Do you recall what scope was installed on that RFB? I'm looking for an optic with long eye-relief, and it seems that would fit the bill.
demosthenes33 9 months ago
Yes, they are available in CA with a modified mag release. (bullet button) It's a bummer to need a tool punch or bullet tip to drop the mag but it still makes for a lot of fun at the range if you're stuck in CA. LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!
nelsonboy707 9 months ago
Out of curiosity, who provided this rifle? I ask because it has the newest upgrades, including the 2nd generation gas system (you can tell by the different gas plug and the small weld mark on the front right of the carrier). I'm curious if this was sent in for retrofit or came from the factory that way.
Cliffswallow 9 months ago
@Cliffswallow looks to me like he is at the lucky gunner shoot that was for big time youtube gun guys, was probably one of the guns that got to shoot for free with as much ammo as they wanted :'(
BigSean1992 9 months ago
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Cliffswallow 9 months ago
omg i jsut saw the retail price on these is up to $1800??!!!
thats WELL overpriced..especially for Kel Tec...
Ill stick to my FNFAL thanks
generalzod4life 9 months ago
i always heard these kick like Mules!
they are a neat handy little rifle, but im not sure of what they are designed for in .308?
really only usefull for a hunting rifle
generalzod4life 9 months ago
@generalzod4life The RBF kicks like a 308...
MotorCityPrepper 9 months ago
fnh f2000 has the same style of ejection with there bullpup
longtrangm1a 9 months ago
your voice reminds me of a radio DJ.
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SMARTDOORJAMB 9 months ago
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MichiganTNP 9 months ago
did you experience any jams when shooting this since it seems like the empty shell isn't coming with much force.
PrimeraG20 9 months ago
Thanks Mr.Sootch! I realize this is a bullpup design...but I'm curious as to the twist rate of the barrel/ barrel length / and what kind of velocity/range can be expected with this system...Suppose you could engage 1000 with the right match grade or hand loaded ammo on a consistent basis? Also...After extended firing I'm curious to know how far your groups would open up...H-Bar?
Jeenyus1983 9 months ago
Thanks for the review sootch.
dphitch 9 months ago
I so wished that Kel-Tec would ship them to Europe :-((. Beautiful rifle.
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SMARTDOORJAMB 9 months ago
As you confirmed at 1:56 , this rifle requires metric FAL magazines.
Tough, proven mags -- but they are hard to find in nice condition nowadays. Quite scarce. Could prove a limitation on the rifle.
classof77 9 months ago 15
@classof77 New production Korean mags are available. I personally have not tried them (yet) but I have heard mostly good things and plan to buy some in the future. Also I believe DSA is producing FAL magazines.
evilassaultweaponeer 9 months ago
@evilassaultweaponeer DSA has been saying they'll produce FAL mags for years, but it hasn't happened.
classof77 9 months ago 2
@classof77 I've noticed that they're website has been saying they're "coming soon" for years, but I heard from someone else who claims you must call them and says he has purchased their magazines before. If I remember, I'll call them this week and find out for myself. If they are in fact selling them, I'll let you know (if I remember, lol).
evilassaultweaponeer 9 months ago
@classof77 I called DSA today and they said the 30 rounders are available (over the phone only) for $24.95. They do not have 20 or 25s available currently, but I would sure like to buy some 30s, and hey, that's not a bad price at all!
evilassaultweaponeer 9 months ago
@classof77 In the US, they are quite cheap and plentiful.
beaker2000 9 months ago
@beaker2000 Horse crap. I live in the US. You obviously haven't looked in a few years. They used to be "cheap and plentiful."
classof77 9 months ago
@classof77 That is odd. I look on GB and I see tons of them for next to nothing. You sure you know what you are talking about?
beaker2000 9 months ago
@classof77 DSA is going to start manufacturing metric FAL magazines in Illinois i think
Chriznak 9 months ago
@Chriznak Or so they have been saying for several years.
WurledPeas 9 months ago
@classof77 only a bazillion austrian metric Styer magazines out there to work perfectly in your rfb. IMI also works, millions of them. I just purchased two new austrians for 40 bucks mint condition with a leather pouch. No limitations on the magazines. New production mags are also out now including a 30 rounder.
STORM6490MT 7 months ago
@STORM6490MT LOL whatever.
Just did another Google for metric FAL mags. Here's what comes up: (1) lot of b.s. Thermold mags -- no thank you; (2) a few beat-up Austrians in dodgy condition; (3) forum thread entitled "Why are FN/FAL Mags So Expensive?"; (4) Mint Metric FAL Mags from DSA "OUT OF STOCK"; (5) Beat-Up DSA Mags "OUT OF STOCK."
No limitations, eh buddy?
You can scrounge SOME out there. But compared to, e.g., .308 AR mags -- it's a VERY limiting component for this rifle, today.
classof77 7 months ago 13
@classof77 i got mine off gunbroker. com
selelpimp 4 months ago
@classof77 My first thought when they released this was "why not G3 mags?" So plentiful and so cheap and more than field tested as are the FAL mags.
HPG45 1 month ago
@STORM6490MT I do see the US made 30 round jobs on DSA's website -- those are new. We'll see if they work. Great if they do, though they look awkwardly protruding compared to the 20 rd mags the rifle is designed for.
And I bet a dangly 30 rd mag would be particularly awkward with a bullpup like the RFB, whose whole point was supposed to be compactness.
classof77 7 months ago 3
I hope they are reliable and durable....especially for what kel tec is asking for them.
glockster68 9 months ago
Do they have it in 223? I know you love your 308.
Thanks Scootch
bossduff 9 months ago
I like the forward ejection, just like on the FN F2000. Keeps brass out of the face of your friend beside you. I wonder how reliable the system is though.
fidgetingfinch 9 months ago
This gun is like all of their others. I don't know why they don't just call every gun they have the "Out of Stock Special".
RagnarOdinsson 9 months ago
I might go w/ this rifle since the SIG 716 hasn't come out yet and the POF P308 are rumored for QA issues.
MavHunter20XX 9 months ago
I am looking forward to the new Keltec "Zombie Killer" 12 gauge bullpup, 14+1 pump shotgun.
I'd like to see you do a review and test fire of these new AR stocks that enable anyone to "bump fire" like a full auto weapon without the stamp, hassle or cost. It is called the Slidefire Solutions stock, and it runs about $375. It is a pretty low cost full auto substitute. I would like to buy one while they are still legal, but I want an independent review.
prescottbill 9 months ago
so this gun with an 18inch barrel is the same size as an ar-15 with a ... barrel?
Luger718A1 9 months ago
Sootch, Great review. I'd like to know how this rifle does between 200 and 400 meters.
enjoythewildUSA 9 months ago
Cool look at an awesome new rifle. Wish they were more available though...
JAndersonIV 9 months ago
Kel Tec NEEDS to make a 5.56 version of this!!!!!
xPOSSUM45x 9 months ago
@xPOSSUM45x That would be sweet. What about even the Russian calibers.
MotorCityPrepper 9 months ago
Nice little review. Thanks for sharing!
ArmedVegan 9 months ago
Nice bullpup 308 low recoil that is a dream weapon,
I only wish it was 3006 I would buy one tomorrow.
I kinda like the style shooting, talking good review.
Tinmancr1 9 months ago
I love it. But two things, 1.) I want it in 5.56 and 2.) it is too spendy. But I love it. I have waited for a good review and once again Don you pull it off.
scdefion 9 months ago
More ambi guns please. It means alot.
Agent80x 9 months ago
@sootch00 great vid. I'd love one of those but... Can't find one and the price point is a bit high for me. Keep up the great work fighting those dang zombies!
ironmonkeyz 9 months ago
FN FAL mags?
rqm420 9 months ago
This gun doesn't look fun to shoot at all. Don't you feel all the recoils? It is a pain in your neck, man. Kel-Tec should make them in .223 rather than .308. Short gun uses large cartridge never seems to work.
bryanng66 9 months ago
Ambidextrous! No *i* included! Sorry... it drives me insane when people say it the way you did. ;) Hehe
tellmeitsnottaken 9 months ago
@tellmeitsnottaken Agree, it's surprising how many people make that error--but Sootch's vids are good so we'll give him a pass--THIS time! :-)
Embosan 9 months ago
Daddy want!
D3mang3l 9 months ago
The RFB makes me wich I would have waited to buy my DSA FAL and bought it instead...
TacticalCitySlicker 9 months ago
5.56 version plz?!
shishiromura 9 months ago
I would like this gun in 7.62x39mm
weiss27md 9 months ago
i should have gotten this instead of a ps90
peptopro17 9 months ago
Great video, I haven't had the privelage to shoot this yet, but I want to. Although, I have gotten to shoot the KSG and I love it.
HunterSurvivalist 9 months ago
In Ontario, Canada if the Firearm is pointed any where but exactly stright down the range they will take you off the line for unsafe muzzle control.
Sccuba182 9 months ago
Thanx for the review Sootch00, I will be attending an active shooter (school shooting) class in a few days as an LEO and I am using my own personal RFB with department ammo to shoot the course along with my CZ75B in .40, should be a blast.......... literally.
derweibhai 9 months ago
Cool rifle; I shot one a couple of weeks ago at the range. A gun dealer had one to see what people thought. I liked it OK, but $1,800 is a bit rich for my blood for rifle in a cal. that also cost almost $1 a round. If they could get the price point down to something reasonable and chamber it in x39 I'd own one today.
Springr1911 9 months ago
@AzNd3v1L3 The shells do not eject with any force. The recoil of the rifle was simply throwing the shells out in the video. Normaly there are 3 or 4 shell cassings sitting in the ejection port that fall out when you tilt the rifle forward, or are pushed out from the next few shells.
Jesses001 9 months ago
Oh snap! Can I come over?
USALibertarian 9 months ago
Rfb looks sweet, and like the glass it had on it also.
millster101 9 months ago
it look a bit like the french famas
arthurargoul 9 months ago
the fn f2000 works a bit like this to
13thmistral 9 months ago
Oh, and I think you have to go for a bull pup design in the zombie apocalypse. Long barrel length for accuracy but compact design for manouevarability . I'd go for the FN P90 myself with the 557 on my hip. Added bonus that they use the same ammo so if you get over run by the undead you have less to worry about in the panic =)
mightycol 9 months ago
Personally, this is the most interesting gun you've reviewed in a while. It looks awesome. The other guns have been good, but this is ace.
mightycol 9 months ago
Awesome video awesome rifle. :)
I like the futuristic look Kel Tec weapons have.
bfgguns 9 months ago
thanks for the review, was looking at 308's yesterday and totally forgot about this one, I hear though that Kel-Tec's are not widely available....
wewishujoy 9 months ago
Hi Sootch, nice video. Hope you'll have some time in the future in depth. I'm looking forward to such a review. It's a quiet interesting rifle but unfortunately Kel Tec doesn't export to the European Union. Would like to shoot it once just to feel how it matches up against a FAL.
Targa2Tasmania 9 months ago
does it use the g3 mags?
smasci 9 months ago
Not widely available, only seen one for sale in my area. Certainly an interesting concept firearm, but I rather go with Colt’s new SP901 modular semi-auto 7.62 / 5.56 NATO carbine. Or the FN semi-auto 7.62 NATO SCAR17S.
Everett07630 9 months ago
KelTec is really starting to come out with some great looking firearms. I want that new Shotty they just came out with too!
KryptKeeper40 9 months ago
Never shot one myself, BUT held one and looked it over real real good, I liked it,, the price scared me off,,,wait for a while and find it street price, but yes, I agree she's sweet!
Thumbs up!~~John
WORRO01 9 months ago
Cool
GunsKnivesSurvival 9 months ago
Sorry but that gun was kicking the shooters asses.
Looks like it has a fair bit a recoil which is surprising because youd think that a bullpup design would have alot more recoil reduction.
Hopefully Gen2 of this will have less recoil.
EmpathyWorks 9 months ago
Nice video and cool rifle.
Jvance325 9 months ago
kinda looks like the FA-MAS !
TheSimpleDudeOne 9 months ago
You can get the magazines for that at Sportsmans Guide..
taeim43 9 months ago
so many evil features = no buy in california.
I'll keep dreaming. I hate Libtards!
ustfu 9 months ago
that big guy shooting it made it look like a 22 haha. i wish i could sneak you a L85A2 Sootch from England
tbrowniscool 9 months ago
damn that is a sexy gun ;)
BirmzWeedhead 9 months ago
I SEE KRISS SUPER-V's
strik30fd00m 9 months ago 11
@strik30fd00m Review coming soon : )
sootch00 9 months ago 13
@sootch00 Be sure to try and include some info on the accuracy like you do with your pistols.
Elephantintheroom01 9 months ago
@sootch00 Yay
MavHunter20XX 9 months ago
how much are they?
jwgbmp40 9 months ago
@jwgbmp40 Last I heard, you can get them for around $1800.
wakeupitshere 9 months ago
nice anti zombie rifle
nuk3m3vil 9 months ago
Hey Sootch, I like this, but would be lying if i said it was on the wish list. I need to see this VERY new rifle get beat up a bit more in real life situations first. I do have high hopes for it. Nice quick peek at an innovative design from a good company.
dafrogtoad 9 months ago
The forward ejection looks like Kel Tec's version of my FNH FS2000 bullpup in 5.56. I wish they made it in .308!
complawyer 9 months ago
Sweet rifle.
FlankerVT 9 months ago
I want one, bad!
MrSteney 9 months ago
They have a 5.56 prototype, don't know if it will come to production. The owner does not want to hire anymore people right now cause of the economic instablity and legal issues with AWB.
vashguud 9 months ago
in your annotation you say the bolt handle is on the left side. it is reversible to make the gun ambidextrious.
bobbafret 9 months ago
Its a buy.
humafrag 9 months ago
Is it a buy?
humafrag 9 months ago
i was trained on the british SA80, it is a good weapon but u can't fire it left-handed. im right-handed but there are still times when it would have been better and safer to shoot it in the left, around left-hand corners and sometime breaching a door that might open funny..
burger1690 9 months ago
I like it. very compact and light. I will adopt it for it's modern desighn.
andrewsheldonreeves 9 months ago
@andrewsheldonreeves I like it too, but it is 8 lbs empty and without optics.
FrikinTastik 9 months ago
I'm going to be honest, I want one...bad...
MasterPoIsoN1 9 months ago
@AzNd3v1L3 The cases gently fall out. Supressors are a non issue. Check out Gunblast's video. The supressor he showcases is incredible for performanc. I own and RFB FYI.
MotorCityPrepper 9 months ago
Kinda looks like an AUG
mikei4455 9 months ago
Cool rifle. I was just looking at one of these at my local gun store the other day, I was surprised to how light it felt. What do you think of the reliability of this rifle, any malfunctions or jams?
yborzenko 9 months ago
@AzNd3v1L3 Scratch the barrel or the ejection chute?
How is mounting a suppressor going to be an issue?
It seems that weather, seasons, and climates affect the ejection and operation of firearms.
This one is different how? The forward ejecting feature makes it different so that it's more unreliable?
Nukefuzion 9 months ago
It reminds me of the DMR from Halo Reach XD
MichaelRoxalot 9 months ago
nice rifle, looks quite futuristic, like what a scifi space marine will use.
usually i dont like the looks of bullpup rifles, although they have obvious advantages over regular style, they kinda look like if they had been assambled wrong. This one looks great
mertontheevil 9 months ago