that's really cool, I'm training for brown belt at the moment but I don't think that i can beat my sensai (who is 2nd dan) but this is really interesting for gaining ideas in fights against other blue-brown belts
Since then I got my Shodan (black-belt) but also ruptured my ACL on the left knee and I'll need reconstruction surgery to keep doing Judo... But keep in mind that this was a light randori, aimed at transitions, I (the brown belt at the time) didn't tried to submit the black-belt... I don't think I would lose on a real altercation :-) (btw, I'm testing for a BJJ brown belt the end of the year, as I can do newaza only even with the knee problem!)
A novice weighting around 120kg (I am 77kg) desperate because he wasn't being able to throw me tried a wild tani-otoshi but instead of wenting to the ground to throw me he landed over my outstretched left knee with all his weight. I immediately released my body and tried to prevent injury but that was not possible. At least I saved my meniscus and the other ligaments.
There's no such rule! In fact there are no "rules" at all in randori... One of the best ways to pass the guard is by standing, since in Judo shiai (competition), if you stand then matte is called, then maybe some Judo schools also don't allow standing in randori, but that's just unrealistic. Standing don't give you unfair advantage, as the fighter bellow has a lot of turn-over options to do, since the standing one has a higher center of gravity, and can be turnover (just as in this video)
Yep, you are right, that is why a common strategy in bjj is to sit down as soon as the match starts and buttscoot your way to your opponent.. very annoying btw.
I would say next to 0... On the other hand, fights will go to the ground more than 95% of all time if there are no rules (I would say 99%). So that's good to have great newaza... That said, I prefer to throw and then work the top game, since this gives my opponent less chance to hit me. Against non-martial-artists newaza is simply unstopable sort of a firearm!
No se a mi no me parece un buen randori. tan solo 2 o 3 jujis y poco mas. El resto es de intentar algo pero nada. No tiene mucha tecnica. Un randori es para que salgan cosas y practicarlas. Ademas esta prohibido coger de la manga por dentro o poner la rodilla en el pecho...uff por dios!!!
"Ademas esta prohibido coger de la manga por dentro o poner la rodilla en el pecho." ... well, I think your Judo randori may be too limited if you start applying IJF rules to it... we do randori aiming at a better Judo, which has nothing to do with Olympic Judo.
I forgot to say that you're right that this was not a very good randori... It was a way too relaxed randori. I'd like more full speed newaza randori, but then you can't only do that! :-)
This is a easy-going randori... Not a real match... You can see that no one tried to secure a position for long: that was not the point... As for a lot still in need to be tightened, all I can say is that my Judo days will be over when I think I've learned everything :-) Your comment is 100% accurate!!!
I'll put a video response, which was filmed at the same day, but with a SUPERB newaza player: André. You can see that even in a easy-going randori, his superior abilities clearly show! Hope you like it better!
The funny part (at least to myself) is that André, in the video response, is fighting the same guy (Pedro) which I am fighting in the video on this page... You can see how easy André handles him... I should be ashamed, but, instead, I'm proud of André's ability. He is a very nice guy, the only problem is that he have the bad habit of submitting you 3 to 4 times in a row!
haha are u by any chance into MMA? Its quite hard to catch someone in those two when its only ground work your doing, and its at a relaxed pace like this. Plus i think the main focus is on learning not winning
good roll
knownpornographer 1 year ago
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docyan12 2 years ago
that's really cool, I'm training for brown belt at the moment but I don't think that i can beat my sensai (who is 2nd dan) but this is really interesting for gaining ideas in fights against other blue-brown belts
Xbox360Rulesz 2 years ago
Since then I got my Shodan (black-belt) but also ruptured my ACL on the left knee and I'll need reconstruction surgery to keep doing Judo... But keep in mind that this was a light randori, aimed at transitions, I (the brown belt at the time) didn't tried to submit the black-belt... I don't think I would lose on a real altercation :-) (btw, I'm testing for a BJJ brown belt the end of the year, as I can do newaza only even with the knee problem!)
loudenvier 2 years ago
How did you shatter your ACL?
5509831 2 years ago
A novice weighting around 120kg (I am 77kg) desperate because he wasn't being able to throw me tried a wild tani-otoshi but instead of wenting to the ground to throw me he landed over my outstretched left knee with all his weight. I immediately released my body and tried to prevent injury but that was not possible. At least I saved my meniscus and the other ligaments.
loudenvier 2 years ago
i thought in randori newaza you weren't allow to stand up durring the match because it puts in a unfair advantage.
mightymk 3 years ago
There's no such rule! In fact there are no "rules" at all in randori... One of the best ways to pass the guard is by standing, since in Judo shiai (competition), if you stand then matte is called, then maybe some Judo schools also don't allow standing in randori, but that's just unrealistic. Standing don't give you unfair advantage, as the fighter bellow has a lot of turn-over options to do, since the standing one has a higher center of gravity, and can be turnover (just as in this video)
loudenvier 3 years ago
Yep, you are right, that is why a common strategy in bjj is to sit down as soon as the match starts and buttscoot your way to your opponent.. very annoying btw.
dunkelblau2006 3 years ago
From a self-defense perspective, how many fights start on the ground?
MPA2000 2 years ago
I would say next to 0... On the other hand, fights will go to the ground more than 95% of all time if there are no rules (I would say 99%). So that's good to have great newaza... That said, I prefer to throw and then work the top game, since this gives my opponent less chance to hit me. Against non-martial-artists newaza is simply unstopable sort of a firearm!
loudenvier 2 years ago
No se a mi no me parece un buen randori. tan solo 2 o 3 jujis y poco mas. El resto es de intentar algo pero nada. No tiene mucha tecnica. Un randori es para que salgan cosas y practicarlas. Ademas esta prohibido coger de la manga por dentro o poner la rodilla en el pecho...uff por dios!!!
jamesbd 3 years ago
"Ademas esta prohibido coger de la manga por dentro o poner la rodilla en el pecho." ... well, I think your Judo randori may be too limited if you start applying IJF rules to it... we do randori aiming at a better Judo, which has nothing to do with Olympic Judo.
loudenvier 3 years ago
I forgot to say that you're right that this was not a very good randori... It was a way too relaxed randori. I'd like more full speed newaza randori, but then you can't only do that! :-)
loudenvier 3 years ago
They're ok. There is a lot that still needs to be tightened up though.
mk9000 3 years ago
This is a easy-going randori... Not a real match... You can see that no one tried to secure a position for long: that was not the point... As for a lot still in need to be tightened, all I can say is that my Judo days will be over when I think I've learned everything :-) Your comment is 100% accurate!!!
loudenvier 3 years ago
If thats the case I must say there are some good transitions happening there. Thanks for share this vid. ^_^
mk9000 3 years ago
I'll put a video response, which was filmed at the same day, but with a SUPERB newaza player: André. You can see that even in a easy-going randori, his superior abilities clearly show! Hope you like it better!
loudenvier 3 years ago
The funny part (at least to myself) is that André, in the video response, is fighting the same guy (Pedro) which I am fighting in the video on this page... You can see how easy André handles him... I should be ashamed, but, instead, I'm proud of André's ability. He is a very nice guy, the only problem is that he have the bad habit of submitting you 3 to 4 times in a row!
loudenvier 3 years ago
i would have arm barred him, or gone for a guillotine.
INSID3TH3NIN3 4 years ago
haha are u by any chance into MMA? Its quite hard to catch someone in those two when its only ground work your doing, and its at a relaxed pace like this. Plus i think the main focus is on learning not winning
cryingindian 4 years ago
no, im just a white belt so that would explain my crazy antics.
INSID3TH3NIN3 4 years ago
Nice newaza, those guys knows very well the groundfight!
Levitic22 4 years ago
Nice transitions
Oneshot112 4 years ago
Excellent level !
tokuiwaza 4 years ago
muito bom !
baccili 4 years ago