Tom Leykis Confronts an official from Protect Marriage or Yes on 8 (Audio Only)

[infernorock11]

i think being gay is a mental disease cause seriously most gay people are either emo. or want to kill themselves. im fine with there choice to do whatever cause i frankly dont care. but seriously im tired of hearing. OHHH BOO FUCKING WHO. they make fun of me. im going to end my life. stop being a pussy. the blacks didnt kill themselve and whites ridiculed them worse then you. so shut the fuck up and be a gay man with balls

[greataff]

@infernorock11 Shame you put down emos, they're really cute when they kiss each other! However your comments about how they should be tougher, although valid, do not mean that homophobia should be condoned.

The blacks were tough, but surely you don't condone the racists?

[infernorock11]

@greataff Emos arent cute. I will treat people who dress up all in black wearing ridiclous shit as i would a person dressed up in a suit made of used condoms. I will call them loosers and tell them to stop acting like wrist slicing pussys. I'm using the blacks as a example of how to be tough and deal with the problems head on. While as i watch t.v i hear pussys killing themselves all because someone picked on them. Letting your friends dress in fag clothes is only provoking this behavior

[infernorock11]

@greataff Letting people to think its ok to be in a state of depression can result in something like the collegue shoot outs or simply harm to oneself. Oviously you condone emo's and homosexuality. Although you can deny that you are a emo to prove me wrong. But you cant deny you are ok with people acting like idiots, which usually means you are.

[greataff]

@infernorock11 I was commenting on appearances only, as a subjective opinion there is no right answer. While I don't condone suicide, it's perfectly normal to FEEL suicidal in a society that rejects you; where people get book deals for saying how much they wish they could murder gay people.

I can deny that I don't care for people acting like idiots, because being gay and being an idiot are independent of each other. It is you who projects yourself on to me

[infernorock11]

@greataff The only people who care about how other people run there lives are assholes. I couldnt care less if people were gay. It's the fact that most gays cant handle criticism. When the blacks were hated on im sure there wasnt as much sucides as gay men do. Who cares if there not accepted into the majority of society. You dont become a normal member of society by becoming satistically a suicidal man lover. Seriously they can take a pounding in the ass, but not there feelings.

[naubiologist]

wow this lady is off topic whole tim

[SoggyPizzaPockets1]

We should ban ALL marriage. To hell with just gay marriage.

[SabreUnit]

Why don't gays make up a new word that describes their union????

It seems petty to try to be accepted by a group (most married people) that doesn't like you. Just make up a term. Call it Garriage or something. Then everyone is happy.

Just seems like fighting over marriage definition is forcing one side or another to do something against their will.

[ortmaster]

ill drop a "gay agenda", and drop a hot load on this cunts face, gays are here and they're queer get over it, ppl are gay no matter what you do, who fucking cares

[brokeanddrive]

How can gays be called gay, when they're the most miserable, whiny fucks around? They've surpassed even black people in the victim mentality and persecution complex!

They're no better than any other minority trying to get special rights under the guise of "equal" rights. Equal to what?

Question: what makes homosexuals any different than furries or any other fetish group who've tried to turn it into a "lifestyle" to ram down everyone's throats? Why should they get any special consideration?

[republicanpatriot100]

faggots and dykes are disgusting

[greataff]

@republicanpatriot100 Then don't have sex with one, leave their legal arrangements alone.

[republicanpatriot100]

@greataff marriage is one man one woman ONLY we wont give fags and dykes any special rights

[Beatngubitch]

@republicanpatriot100 Homosexual men and homosexual women probably find you just as disgusting.

[mcbowser]

@republicanpatriot100 breeders aiare even worse

[thisgame2]

some social norms need to be standard. sorry

[leonidas512]

at 2:44 "it isnt fair for voters to have to be detectives to figure out what the propesitions are, is it?"

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Wow, keep voters stupid so you can more easily lie to them!

[greataff]

@leonidas512 lol... but I also like Leykis's response showing that she's not making it easy for them

Alexander James Frémont

Prime Director - Great Affinity

[visciousvick]

She says that she doesn't think gay activists should be setting the aganda, but I guess it is alright for the Mormons and the Catholics to set the agenda and raise over $20 million dollars to fight for and promote Proposition 8. The gay community is not setting any agenda they are just fighting for rights...rights that were granted to them and then taken away.

[greataff]

@BRYAN351 Do I

[cochranexyz]

You know this guest is really, really dreading this call! LOL.

[BiGMANJOE32]

im not for gay marriage i got kids and i dont want them to grow up gay i dont aplogize for my beliefs!!!!

[greataff]

@BiGMANJOE32 There's no reason to apologize being completely ignorant to the realities of human sexuality is completely within your right.

However, know that gay marriage doesn't cause homosexuality; it is in fact the other way around and it is a one-way relationship.

You not wanting your kids o grow up gay is going a bit overboard, but a valid belief.

By discouraging gays to get married you encourage them into promiscuity, also a completely valid belief.

A.J. Fremont

Prime Director - GA

[atheistram]

@BiGMANJOE32 You're an idiot... just because gay marriage is illegal will not affect whether or not your kids turn out gay. Your teaching your kids that gay marriage is wrong will not affect whether or not your kids turn out gay. Nothing you do will affect whether or not your kids turn out gay. At most, if you have a gay child he or she will be in the closet with regard to you.

[johnrogan]

@BiGMANJOE32

RRRRRAMONE!!!! BIGMANJOE32 FINGERS HIS ANUS WHILE WATCHING HUGGIES COMMERCIALS!!!

[dorianstark]

PROTECT MARRIAGE-lmao, how petty are these people to think that gays are changing what marriage is, when marriage cant change, it was meant for anyone who come together for life. hey pop 8 fans, you guys had ur chance and u fucked it up.let someone else try to show u how a marriage can work. there seems to be more divorse than marriages.give someone else a chance to fuck it up as well.

[mesauh]

YES ON 8 FUCK ALL THE FARRIES! Have them move to San Francisco and don't let them out.!

[mesauh]

F to all the fairies in the world they don't do anything good! If is not a man and a women you need to go live in San Francisco and stay there until you die!

[greataff]

@mesauh Interior Decorators, Wedding planners, costume designers, musicals and not to mention the the that they pay the most in taxes and use the least government benefits (many gays don't have their own kids and are willing adoptors)

Just like other species, gays add resources without adding to the population.

AJ Fremont

Prime Director - Great Affinity

[BRYAN351]

@greataff, Mr. AJ Fremont? First of all, I'd like to say that I realize it's better to be gay than straight. Everyone knows that by now, and far be it from me to not keep up with the times. But, I have a question for you sir. Why are homosexuals so damn gay?

[RadioFreeWisconsin]

Not everything is left to the voters, our Founding Fathers didn't want that! I don't give a flying fuck what the majority says, who cares. Courts are **suppossed** to be elitist instutions unconcerned with the majority position!

[xMadXWorldx]

i can tell you for a fact right now that being gay is not a choice, ive woken up fro 2 suicide atteptts being gay unnacceptible.. fuck all of you, i hope you die

[greataff]

@xMadXWorldx There are people and your side, people who not only accept you being gay, but see it as a term of endearment.

If they do not learn to accept us, they will become obsolete.

AJ Fremont

Prime Director - Great Affinity

[Beatngubitch]

@xMadXWorldx You're right, being gay is not a choice. However, you shouldn't try to commit suicide over it. That will just make homophobes win.

[gooser562]

"Teachable" ?

[bj07bran7]

Homosexuality is not natural, end of discussion. There is no gay gene. Gay animals don't prove that people are naturally gay.

Gays are responsible for the spread of HIV in this country. They lead promiscuous life styles and march in parades, forcing their agendas down everyones throats.

But, most americans dont even agree with it. The people are socially conservative, they vote that way all the time.

Go to Canada and be gay

[greataff]

While there is no 1 gay gene, twin studies shown that genes play a greater role in sexual orientation than which hand we write with. The very fact that animals are proves it occurs in nature, therefore is natural.

Yes, promiscuity among gays has spread HIV, if gays were more careful, HIV wouldn't be so widespread.

I agree with you, Americans can be puritanical on this issue.

If homosexuality is a choice and you stand against it, you don't believe in individual freedom.

A.J. Frémont

[bj07bran7]

Define "freedom". I assume you want to take away people's right to murder don't you? Animals kill without remorse, without thought for the betterment of their survival.

I'm sure you want to take away people's freedom to steal from your house. I'm sure you want to take away people's freedom to fuck 7 year old girls.

Without laws, there is chaos. There is no such thing as freedom. There are lines that need to be drawn, and in terms of marriage, that line is at a man and woman

[greataff]

It would take an encyclopaedia article to fully explain what, "the ability to act or speak without forceful constraint" means. But what you are talking about is not freedom, there is no freedom to steal as it interferes with the freedom of the person being robbed.

The US Supreme court gave me the freedom to fuck any non-related and willing person over the age of consent.

But something tells me you're a sexual authoritarian.

Alexander James Frémont

Director - Great Affinity Productions

[bj07bran7]

The point was to show that changing the definition of marriage to appease the homosexual agenda in the name of "freedom" is a weak argument.

I'm actually a sexual libertariaay . I could care less what people do in their bedrooms. But where it affects society is when gay and lesbian agendas are taught to young children, and churches are forced to hold marriage ceremonies.

[greataff]

OK, fine I'm all in favour of hiding the sick reality of homosexuality from children. Why then do you support a constitutional amendment that affects only adults? Children are STILL taught about gay marriage in California (assuming there is money for school LOL). Why not make a law forbidding schools to talk about gays until the 9th grade?

You also realise the when the courts overturned the gay marriage ban, they ruled that no church shall be required to perform such unions.

AJ Frémont

[bj07bran7]

Courts shouldn't be controling anything, only voters.Even though they ruled that churches wouldnt have to, that is still the end goal of the gay movement, is it not?

[greataff]

Well, courts have been interpreting law for a long time and have brought good things against the will of the people (integration of schools, miranda rights etc)

Forcing churches? Not by force, no; some gays want churches to interally change their policy. Keep in mind that there are gay friendly churches who will gladly pick up the slack for the non-friendly.

How about a voter initiative protecting the church from this?

AJ Frémont

[atheistram]

@bj07bran7 You honestly think that being taught about gay marriage will turn a child gay? If you do, you're an idiot.

[atheistram]

@bj07bran7 How would gays being allowed to be married affect your marriage??

[dannysr20]

i love that dark music they play in the commercial to make it scary. you could make a commercial about anything and it will look bad if you play those tones

[greataff]

1. Chicks in the northwest (sigh)

2. That's what you think, you'd be surprised how many how women throw themselves at me

3. I have money power and fame, that's what attract women to men like me

-Tom J. Leykis

1+2. After getting a call from a bitter WA caller

3. During Leykis 101 monologue

[greataff]

Oh you really got me there, it doesn't matter if I'm fat I have money, power and fame, and the girls don't seem to care about how I look. Do you really think that adds to your argument?

-Tom J. Leykis

In response to a caller calling him fat

[thesouthtide]

The whole "Marriage is sacred" arguement is total religious bullshit. 60% divorce ratio... nice and sacred...

[greataff]

Marriage is a sacred and fragile institution until divorce. We already lost the battle with no fault divorce, the fragile real family can't take another hit, especially from faggot marriage.

Steward Ezekiel Leavitt

Human Resources Director - Great Affinity

The opinions of our HR Director contradict the opinions of the rest of management of Great Affinity

[norse40]

a382000 You make an interesting point in quoting the bible. However, the irony of your ignorance is staggering. Remember...the bible that you hold so dear also endorses SLAVERY! Quit cherry picking the biblical verses in your narrow minded, self righteous and dare I say bigoted manner.

[HoustonReady2go]

and why can't homosexuals be as miserable as the rest of us

[greataff]

Because the validity of George Takei and his partner of 22 years does not hold a candle to my sister's sacred marriage in which she cheats on her husband and is constantly abused and beaten within an inch of her life.

Accepting marriage would also mean my children would have to accept sodomy as anything other than a sin. Gay marriage is gross, disgusting and undermines the foundations of society.

Stewart E. Leavitt

-Prejudiced HR Director of Great Affinity

[HoustonReady2go]

Haha that and we should continue to protect the "sanctity" of Pamela Andersons one monthers, or Britnney Spears' overnighters. I know homosexual couples that have been together for over a decade they have happy productive lives and then there are losers whom I also know who knock up their girlfriends at 18 and marry them only to cheat and beat on them, not make any money and suck our tax dollars from productive moneymaking people. Whats the difference if LGBT can get married?

[greataff]

Because Pamela Anderson has the POTENTIAL of having a good marriage. Men and women, no matter their looks having a loving relationship is a very beautiful thing blessed by our almighty God.

But homosexuality is a perversion and should not be glorified by our state government.

Stewart E. Leavitt

-Prejudiced HR Director of Great Affinity

[HoustonReady2go]

Tom needs to come back, REPEAL PROP 8 IN 2010!!

[barbarossaaaa]

homosexuals shouldnt be able to marry period.

[greekgod41]

I agree............Tom i love your posts but your wrong on this one, its an abomination for gays to marry PERIOD, acceptance and tolerance of this wicked lifestyle will bring destuction to the nation and destroy our childrens lives

[greataff]

Really? Acceptance of an activity that less than 3% (Gay Men) of the population participates in will bring this nation to destruction? By the way is promiscuity and infidelity good for society? Is the inability to leave property to a partner after one dies or the inability to make medical decisions better for society?

Gay Marriage is happening and will happen whether or not society puts its pathetic stamp on it.

Alexander James Cárdenas

Director - Great Affinity Productions

[RojOdio]

Its an abomination for soo many people to oppose the happiness of others based on very vague and outdated ethics systems. If anything will bring destruction to humanity, it is outdated ethic systems.

[ikyll]

you're a loser....and you're weird

[asdfxyz1]

what if your son was gay. i would love for him to reject you and move away.

[greataff]

Unnatural Lifestyle? No, not by a long-shot. Unnatural means, "a patter of consistent behavior that doesn't occur in nature." Over 100 animal species have documented homosexual behavior.

The word your looking for is immoral, in other words, "against the tenets of a said religion, creed belief, code or mindset"

Alexander James Cárdenas

Director - Great Affinity Productions

[greataff]

There is much we don't know about genomes. However we do know that there are genes that lead to asexuality and infertility, perhaps homosexuality is one of them.

Marriage is not "natural", our primal instincts would normally drive us to promiscuity. Our god given control over instinct makes marriage possible.

Now if you want to argue morality: you can't, every person has a different set of morals and I don't believe ours are very similar.

AJ Cárdenas

Dir - Great Affinity Productions

[greataff]

Assuming protestantism is the true religion...

Morality is derived from the bible, g a series of 66 books written in an in a different language far different from modern greek or hebrew. These book were written by finite men trying to understand an infinite god

Think outside the box, how could we take the bible (especially on in modern english) literally? Maybe there's a spirit of the law instead of a letter?

People must chose god, we can't force them. Who cares if hedons marry?

AJ Cárdenas

[RojOdio]

Why?

[WishesNetwork]

That woman is a fucking idiot. Did prop 8 past in Cali? I'm in Michigan so I wouldn't know. I wish they brought Tom Leykis back in Detroit.

[greataff]

It did pass. As for tom leykis, there's always iTunes or live streaming from the website or AOL radio, if you're an iPhone fan.

[WishesNetwork]

I know that, but most times than not, I'm not in front of the net at 7-11pm (in CA: 4-8pm), but I try to listen.

[greataff]

There is always podcasting

[jerrydoubleu]

I refuse for ever and ever to live as a 2nd class citizen.

[quemacha]

It's interesting that Tom supports gay rights, but at the same time he is so opinionated about tradional gender roles for heterosexual relationships. For example, men who are sensitive and who cry are "pussies."

[greataff]

That's because women generally don't like men who cry or are pussies despite their claims that they want a sensitive guy.

[bigkitten]

Hey!...let 'em get married! Why the hell shouldn't they be made miserable like the rest of us?

[jackshrink]

They both made valid points.

However, I felt that the ads from BOTH sides of the prop 8 battle were misleading. I think only 1 of the many anti-prop 8 ads even used the phrase "gay marriage"...instead they used images of straight couples and emotional appeal to persuade the public.

Yes on prop 8 ads failed to attack the real issues and focused too much attention on schools.

Both sides were mis-represented but fortunately I was able to study the prop and come to my own conclusion.

[Truth0rDeath]

I'm very very glad this proposition passed in my state. Someone needs to stop the gays from gaining more ground. It wont end with prop 8. They will push for more and more privileges like they always do.

First they just wanted to be left alone, then they wanted parades, then they turn most of TV and media gay, now they're after marriage.

I dont care what PC-bullshitters say, they've gone far enough. They are sick perverts and they pushed too far and need to be pushed back.

[greataff]

Sick perverts? At least you're upfront about being an anti-homosexual. I suppose your in favour of overturning domestic partnerships & denying the right to deny them employment & in favour of anti-sodomy laws. After all you already willing to deny them the legal benefits the word "marriage" gives them.

AJ Cárdenas

Dir - GA Productions

[Truth0rDeath]

Yep. Sounds good to me. Though it wouldn't be a problem if they kept it to themselves and in private.

Fun fact: The percentage of Blacks and Hispanics that voted for prop 8 is higher than the percentage of Whites.

[Eduardo10390]

Because the vast majority of them are ridiculously religious

[Truth0rDeath]

At least they have more sense.

[Eduardo10390]

actually, religious people tend to be some of the most delusional people on earth, and I'm sure you're one of them.

[Truth0rDeath]

Not really. I dont go to churches since I know they all came from pagan origins. Denominations are sects like the saducees and the pharisees.

Theres only one God, one Jesus, and one truth. Anything else is bullshit.

[Eduardo10390]

Well, y'know, Christmas originated from the Vernal Equinox, a Pagan Celebration. There has been speculation from theologists that Jesus was not born in December. There has also been heavy editing in what was to become the New Testament, and many books were left out, not to mention one where Jesus being the son of god and "born of the virgin mary" were not mentioned. Religious people are ignorant and stupid, and you are a prime example.

[Truth0rDeath]

Yes, they chopped and changed the Word. I only read from the Tyndale. Even the King James is full of errors.

No, Jesus was not born in december. God hates these so called "holy days" like xmass and easter and all that other crap that the calflick church preaches.

"one where Jesus being the son of god and "born of the virgin mary" were not mentioned"

Hmmm wonder why that one got left out.... DUH

[emmyled]

dear gal pal...last time i checked, teaching discrimination on anything is an ignorant idea...no matter what your examples are, the fact is, gay people will exist in the future so the education for acceptance of differences would actually benefit our culture and country.

[Temptationstrikes]

Prop 8 passed??? That sucks! When did it end?

[polemius01]

Unfortunately, hatred won out this time. Damn Mormons!

[Zmitc002]

@polemius01 Not hatred, good publicity.

[a382000]

God never taught anything about tollerance. He said "go and sin no more" "no unclean thing will enter enter the kingdom of heaven". What I am saying is "two natural parents are preferred". If you believe in God as you seem to quote, you know that homosexuality is an abomination acording to the Old Testament. However, you are right, I think children raised by blood parents is most natural, just like two parents in the home is preferrable over a split family. Good night my friend, wife is calling.

[greataff]

So Jesus preaching for us to love our neighbour means nothing. Our bodies are unclean therefore only the clean parts of our souls will enter heaven.

At least you are willing to admit your beliefs no matter the offensiveness, I respect the truth.

Good night, my domestic partner (as Prop 8 has reduced us to) is calling.

[Kimo90210]

Domestic Partner it sounds almost like a maid or a butler

[a382000]

You can not naturelly make a family, you have the wrong plumbing, that should be a clue. I dont have the facts to argue about what 1st graders really want or dont want, deffinately they were too young to make the choice themselves. As for the parents allowing, this is in San Francisco, the highest consentration of Gays in the world, so? No one is suprized. This continued discussion is old news my friend. God have mercy on you. Your burden is to overcome and you will be forgiven.

[greataff]

You are trying to argue that an adopted family is less valid than one by blood, you generally can't change people's minds on that.

Parents wouldn't allow this in other places so students going to gay weddings in other places isn't likely.

If you don't wish to discuss thing YOU brought up, stop responding.

Our merciful god forgives me because I commit homosexuality not for my hate of god, but because I am a fallable human being.

Alexander James Cárdenas

Director - Great Affinity Productions

[HoustonReady2go]

why am I not SURPRISED at your CONCENTRATION of NATURALLY occurring spelling errors, DEFINITELY not shocked, I would have thought all of that Bible reading would've at least taught proper spelling.

[a382000]

well, I am sorry this dumb negro doesnt spell good enough for you Mr. Huston. Maybe you could vote me in some more affirative action or something. Give me some more free rights, like the GAYS you are so worried about. Why are you worried about my NATURAL errors and not worried about the UNNATURAL behavior like the GAy spread of AIDS? sofa king self important

[greataff]

Funny, black people already have protections from discrimination of housing, employment, schools and marriage. By the letter of the law any good black person can get a position over a bad white one. Affirmative action grades minorities on a curve.

Many in our community are worried about aids. As for the word natural: promiscuity is natural does that mean god approves? Same thing applies to homosexual sex.

Alexander James Frémont

Director - Great Affinity Productions

[a382000]

Funny, we BLACK people were born BLACK and were KIDNAPPED and FORCED into SLAVERY and were left UNEDUCATED and needed assistance to CATCHUP with the EDUCATION and sophistication of the rest of AMERICA. GAYS are nothing like us and we RESENT being compared to pairs of people who CHOSE their sexual behavior and in chosing are accepting that other peolpe may not like their choice in sexual behavior. The bible says He does not approve and their are punishments for being promiscuis.....AIDS

[greataff]

Once again you are trying to make the argument that black people having suffered more invalidates the fact that gay people have been killed and fired in 30 states for having a partner of their choice

You may not like the fact I'm a Protestant? Do I deserve to be discriminated against for my CHOICE not to recognise the spiritual authority of the pope?

Stop repeating your tired old arguments and come up with some fresh material

Alexander James Frémont

Director - Great Affinity Productions

[Somai82]

you can't choose what gives you a hard on, fuckstick

[a382000]

The video is dispicable. The Mormons, although strange, have done nothing to deserve such a cowardly blow. They should be commended and have been by so many, by having the guts to put their money behind their beliefs. What's next? a video about Catholics, Methodists, Baptists and so on. It is cowardly. All sex, whether Gay, Straight, bestiality or whatever, belongs in the closet. It is private, precious and spiritual. Dont complain, when you have pushed your adgenda, the majority gave it to you.

[greataff]

When the Mormons push an anti-gay proposition, they deserve all the criticism of their belief. A coward would not have made a commercial like that, it takes real guts to put money behind your belief that gay marriage should be protected.

Our "agenda" was to stop gay marriage from being overturned, the Mormons agenda was to overturn it.

Alexander James Cárdenas

Director - Great Affinity Productions

[a382000]

The Mormons agenda was clearly stated. They are pro-family and I feel the same way. I read the Education Code, I watched the videos of activists teaching our precious children in San Francisco and Hayward, "comming out week" for Kindergardners, are your freeking serious? YOU tell me that is ok with you? Come out of where? They are learning their ABC's for goodness sake. In just a few months of being "legal", the activists are really pissing people off. Low-profile might be a new aproach

[greataff]

The Mormons are pro "their family" which is exclusive.

We are pro "our family" which includes yours, do you feel our families are invalid?

Did you know it was the parents who wanted the kids to see the lesbian wedding? All were properly notified and two children did not see the lesbian wedding due to religious concerns.

Also, the education code does not provide for this, and were the parents not notified, that would have been a serious violation.

Alexander James Cárdenas

Director - GA Prdctns

[a382000]

Have you seen what a dirty campaign the "no on prop 8" supporters are doing? Posting videos about the Mormon church, shredding "YES" signs, beating up yes supporters. I think people will be offended by the bad behavior that the G/L community is showing. Tom, I usually agree with you, but I think Gays are not a true "minority", science has yet to prove that being Gay or Lesbian is beyond their choice. It it their choice to have their "adult alternative lifestyle" and take others religious rights

[greataff]

Guess what? Religion is a choice too, so if gays are not a minority than neither are Muslims.

On behalf of the No on 8 campaign, Great Affinity officially condemns any violence or theft of Prop 8 supporters, however similar things have happened to Prop 8 detractors.

As for videos about the Mormon church, The Mormons have figuratively done what was shown in the commercial.

I have a question, "are you willing to admit you don't see gays as equitable as you are?"

AJ Cárdenas

Dir - GA Prdct

[a382000]

I dont know if Muslisms are a minority or not, does that have anything to do with prop 8? Religious freedom is one of the Greatest rights that this country was built on. The Gay community seems to think that their rights to sexual preference trump the Religious freedoms of others, that is where this fight starts. All men are created in Gods likeness, and we all have agency to choose. The word Marriage is an ICON, is have been used by Men and Women getting married, chose another word that fits.

[greataff]

Muslims were my example, they are a minority in this country.

Gay people do not want to trump religious rights because we ourselves have those rights. CA having had recognising gay marriages does not force you to recognise it.

Free Agency yes, you should have the right to say "god hates fags", just as I should have the ability to marry one.

Separate is not equal, only the word marriage can truly define the rights under the law.

Alexander James Cárdenas

Director - Great Affinity Productions

[a382000]

Some of your more extreme friends have trumped Religious rights. From suing photographers who refused to photograph a Gay wedding, against her Religious beliefs. Drs. Who refused to insemnate, against his beliefs, others who have sued churches for "Hate speech" by teaching out of the bible about Gay sins and churches refusing to allow Gays to be married in their buildings. You forced us to take a stand, tollerance is a double edged sword. Mormons stood their ground as did California voters.

[greataff]

The Unruh act specifically states you cannot deny business on the basis of sexual orientation this includes photographers and Doctors

Some of your extreme friends have encouraged lawbreaking against gays to their congregation (this without gay marriage)

Churches in CA have not been successfully sued for church marriage.

The Mormons excellent deceivers to have convinced 52% of californians to impose their marriage views on the other 48%

Alexander James Cárdenas

Director - Great Affinity Products

[a382000]

Wow dude, your rhetoric is old news, Mormons didnt force anybody. Mormons were invited into a coalition that was formed to protect families. They didnt make it up, we Catholics invited them. Read your own website. Yes, you havent sued sucessfully for church marriage, but it is surely on your agenda. Look up the meaning of extremeist and look in the mirror. You are determined to force people to see your view. Sugar catches more flies than vinegar, so says the California voters

[greataff]

I said, "the Mormons CONVINCED 52% of californians imposed their marriage views on the other 48"

EVERY group has extremists, but our main body simply wants marriage no matter who officiates. I am determined to have the STATE GOVERNMENT see my views, I don't care if you or other religious extremists see it the way I do.

Sugar catches more flies? Your right, perhaps we should have hidden behind lies as well

Alexander James Cárdenas

Director - Great Affinity Productions

[a382000]

yep, pushing people around. Do you blame Mormons for the favorable voting in Florida, New Mexico, Missouri and Alabama? DO they really have so much power? So, Obama with his abortion views and pro-Gay views. You would think that between Catholics and Mormons they could have easily defeated Obama right? I think regular good ol' Americans know bull shit when they see it.

[greataff]

Mormons contributed little to the other voting because they knew it would pass. The Mormons contributed a lot in CA because they did have a chance of losing. I blame the Mormons for CA, but not the other states.

I think I see the root of everything your saying, Obama voted to protect gays in employment and non-marital rights while his marital opinions have been lukewarm.

So, I think that you do not see gays as deserving of the rights you have, am I wrong?

Dir. Alexander James Cárdenas

[jerrydoubleu]

Mormons should take their pointed spaceships back to Uranus, and leave earthlings alone

[a382000]

Wow, i just cant think of anything smart to come back to such a highminded comment, I concede, let the BUTT PLUNGERS rule the world! BUTT PLUNGERS forever!

[jerrydoubleu]

a382000. See, if I just try to do anything to draw any attention to the pain the bigots poison the air with, I eventually get them to admit thier own hatred, like u did. You walk through your days, go to restaurants, oblivious to the constant message sent to gays, gestures of hatred, anger, disdain. U don't get it.

[a382000]

Yes, you are right. It is called disgust, for lifestyles that we do not want our children exposed too. Unnatural adult alternative lifestyles. ALL sexual behavior belongs in the closet Straight, bi, gay, trans, poligamy, beastiality. When "groups" force their private lifestyles on others, people will push back. So here we are with the two extremes. Personally, I beleive that LGBT community deserve all the rights as married couples, however, the word marriage is already used, chose another word

[jerrydoubleu]

a382000, thanks for making my point.

[jerrydoubleu]

Mormons forced members to give money. I know.

[a382000]

Maybe they did, you probably have inside information from the Temple. However, Mormons only make up less than 2% of California population and no matter how you cut that, they only get one vote each.

[jerrydoubleu]

2%, I don't know. But, kind of irrelevant since thiers was a high percentage of effort and money spent on hateful prop 8.

[a382000]

Actually, 2% is the total number of Mormon members (about 748,000)in California, more than 50% of those are children. So that makes less than 1% of Californias population that you are blaming for passing prop 8? I think your arguments lacks facts. Are we blaming teh Mormons for Florida, Arizona, Alabama and the other 24 States that dont allow same-sex marriage? And how does protecting the family unit as it has been established for the 6000 years become HATE? Protecting family values is HATE?

[jerrydoubleu]

Protecting marriage apartheid and hatred and discrimination is hate.  And you're full of beans with those numbers. The morons were the driving force in cali...and their moneys spent on spin and lies in commercials influenced a lot of dumbases like you.

[greataff]

Just because the majority hates something doesn't mean it's not hate.

The term family values is a bullshit term, you don't think my hypothetical husband and adopted son are a family. But you would grant confidence were I replace the husband with a wife.

Family values? More like political or conservative values!

AJ Cárdenas

Director - Great Affinity Productions

[a382000]

I guess we have to agree to disagree there. Family values is a real word that means something to me. Where you seem to use it as a punchline. It has nothing to do with politics to me, it means exactly what it means. You are trying to change the structure of families, marriage and family valuse as has been known for 6000 years. So, this term is not as valuable to you as it is to me. It is a term worth fighting for and preserving in the sight of God and our Country. God Bless America

[ikyll]

6000 years? are you one of those idiots who believe the world is 6000 years old? if so then you have no say in this issue...moron...

[a382000]

Sorry you feel you need to call people names. Apparently you dont think 6000 years is long enough for marriage to be around. How much longer do you think it needs to be established for us to recognize that "marriage is between a man and a woman"? Maybe another 6000 years or so?

[ikyll]

sorry? I'm sorry you're a old fashioned...and saying "6000" years isn't going to change the fact that it's pathetic for someone to prevent someone else from marrying another person based on their gender...how the hell is two women getting married going to affect your pathetic life? people have been idiots for 6000 years..so what? we're talking about 2009...you bigot

[HoustonReady2go]

yep just like for over five thousand plus years a woman was considered property and still is mind you in some underdeveloped countries, or that up until the 19th century it was okay to own somebody, or that sixty years ago an entire nation found it okay to slaughter millions of innocent. yep because history is never wrong.

[a382000]

The #1 spread of AIDS in the United States is still the Gay community. I think that is a current issue worth talking about, since you are so worried about History. Oh PLEASE Mr. Houston boy, dont hurt my feelings anymore about my spelling. I'm just a poor American citizen, that cant get a free education, free medical, free food, free social security and free rights like illegal immigrants and Gays. RIghts are earned. One right I do have is the right to VOTE!

[a382000]

it has been unacceptable in society to murder and steal too. Should we change those moral rules too, just because it's 2009? Why in an inteligent conversation, do you find it necessary to call other people names?

[ikyll]

why do you keep changing the topic..this isn't about murdering and steal you fucking moron...not even close...and what's wrong with the name calling....are you about to cry? just stop talking because I can't stand bigoted pussies...

[norse40]

It was not just Mormons in California ...it was Mormons all across the country that funneled their money into the state! Read the papers!

[a382000]

MOrmons, Catholics, Knights of Columbus, Baptists, Jehovas Witness, donations came from everywhere. Nationally 68% of Americans are against Gay Marriage, read the papers! Only two States allow Gay marriage and that's because a court imposed it. So these people should be attacked because they exercised their freedom to vote? Because they voted to protect their religious rights? They didnt attack, they said NO, they didnt protest businesses and peoples jobs, they said NO, they walked the walk

[greataff]

68% includes the proud and flamboyantly homophobic people from the south. In California it's only 52% who are against.

-Alexander James Frémont

Director Great Affinity Productions

[norse40]

Yes they should be held accountable if they use their church as a political weapon. We are guaranteed the separation of church and state by the constitution! Even if there is a majority of votes, it does not mean the decsion is right or legal. If you think marriage should not be redefined, look at history. Polygamy? Women as property? Interracial marriages were ILLEGAL? Slaves could not marry? It looks like marriage has changed in spite of popular opinion over the years!

[a382000]

Tom, I dont see how you can expect people to really know what that lady has to say if you are always interupting. The California Education website says 96% of K-8 schools is mandated to teach about all forms of marriage. So, who is lying?

[oasisdaniel]

In what section of the website is that information? Just wondering, so I can check it out.  Thanks.

[greataff]

Please click on more info on this video, I have provided the links in the description

[greataff]

No it doesn't, the website specifically talks about sex education in where schools are required to teach about gay relationships, family and marriage/domestic partnerships.

Prop 8 does not change this. With gay marriage being illegal, schools will simply discuss domestic partnerships

Alexander James Cárdenas

Director - Great Affinity Productions

[fntsywlkr]

NO ON 8!

Proposition 8 is misleading, slippery slope, and discriminatory!

[YouShouldVoteYesOn8]

Is Tom Leykis Gay? When did Tom get involved with politics? Does he think he's Rush Limbaugh. I didn't know!

Thanks Tom for sticking up for Gays!

Keep up the good work!

Keep the gay stuff out of schools!

Thanks Tom for getting the word out!

You Rock

VOTE YES ON PROP 8

[greataff]

Tom is not gay. He changed the show to politics when interest in politics increased overall. He's not a right wing wacko like Limbaugh.

Tom is against prop 8, are you in denial or did you not listen? How about the title of this video "Tom Leykis Confronts..."

[HoustonReady2go]

Nor is he a convicted felon NOOO

[bonk926]

Tom was actually doing politics on his show long before it evolved into its current format.

[LiluBob]

Enough is enough! Only the facts will answer everyone's questions and opinions. Please view the facts at: .com/watch?v=4JZIJnJWZBQ

[videlsd]

Yes, it pisses me off.

[cryan71]

What the "yes on prop 8" people are trying to combine every paranoid fear.

This woman supports bullying by name calling people fag and dyke.

She doesn't care about children. Like Sadam Hussein, she's using children as human shields.

[cryan71]

Tom Leykis doesn't take crap from anyone.

[jerrydoubleu]

Go Tom! Get those people who lie and abuse children, using them for selfish and evil purposes.