Actually, being a Kappa Sigma or a member of pretty much any other Fraternity is supposed to be about being a gentleman and walking a path to properly exemplify the principles of honor and respect for oneself and those around him. Unfortunately this is an example of conduct unbecoming of a gentleman, but to blame it on being a "frat guy" is just ignorant. If a non-greek member of the university wrote this, no one would make any big deal of it or probably even care at all.
"how do you stop 5 black guys from raping a white girl? throw them a basketball." okay now is this offensive? is this amusing? should you send me abusive comments and have me banned from making comments? Or should we throw oliver stone in jail and delete platoon an oscar winning film where i heard this joke? free speech or censorship? be offended or understand irony?
@pregnant9 Nope... you should not receive any repercussions legal or otherwise for saying this. HOWEVER if you did get raped by 5 White guys... that would be pretty ironic.
i am really shocked on the view of young turks about this "dont write emails like this". what about write whatever the fuck you want its obviously supposed to be amusing and ironic i will refer to woman as targets cmon chill out wheres the harm maybe we should all be politicly correct. any individual should be allowed to express themself he definately should not be expelled. i watched bill hicks revelations the other day about goat boy and i cringed it was extremely offensive but so fuck
You really think that you are even remotely as funny or as intelligent as Bill Hicks? Well, allow me to express myself: you're a sniveling, spoiled, overprivileged shithead who doesn't give a shit about the safety or well-being of women.
@Asarelah lol donkament at no point was i ever attempting to be amusing nor was i attempting to compare myself to bill hicks i can assure you that i am neither spoiled or overprivileged but thank you for your well considered reply asareiah did you enjoy bill hicks goat boy sketch? would you have had that removed from circulation would you remove my comments? these are the points i am trying to make do we allow people to make politically incorrect comments or should we censor(i try not to snivel)
Newsflash: Freedom of speech doesn't equal freedom from the consequences of that speech. In other words...just because you can say something doesn't mean that you should.
Yeah, Kappa Sigma is generally known nation wide as a lower-tier fraternity anyways.Please don't let these "frat boys" reflect poorly on real fraternity gentlemen.
The reason it is national news is precisely for the same reasons I am annoyed by the ignorant comments from some of u immature BOYS. You don't get it do u? He has to learn about this, meaning respect of women for starters, along with everything else in college. If Yale doesn't want to uphold that then they should have that 500 mil grant taken away. When a college will suspend 24 students for cheating yet only REPRIMAND 4 students 4 assault, sex. har.and RAPE then it itself is showing disrespect
The reason it is national news is precisely for the same reasons I am annoyed by the ignorant comments from some of u immature BOYS. You don't get it do u? He has to learn about this, meaning respect of women for starters, along with everything else in college. If Yale doesn't want to uphold that then they should have that 500 mil grant taken away. When a college will suspend 24 students for cheating yet only REPRIMAND 4 students 4 assault, sex. har.and RAPE then it itself is showing disrespect.
The only reason that man is "screwed" is because there are stupid bitches out there who are offended over trivial shit.
Its a stupid email, sent around a fraternity of some guy saying guys should "be players", probably because he just had a bad breakup or got rejected or something, who cares... why is this national/international news?
Oh and the Fraternity SHOULDN'T reveal the man's identity or expell him. At worst make him listen to some boring SH&D talk (the kind I'm sure they run in hell 24/7) and maybe make him write a formal apology.
Seriously... aside from saying something someone didn't like what did he really do? He didn't harm anyone, he didn't damage property, he didn't break the law, he just made some prudish people gasp and cry "oh the humanity".
Non-consent and rape are 2 different things. Rape is by force, whilst non-consenting sex can happen through coercion but for some reason is considered rape (Under British law anyway).
Not all frat guys are dicks - just a majority of them. Fraternities and Sororities claim to have a "Code of Conduct", but I guarantee that code only applies if they are caught violating it by an outsider, and there's no way for them to justify it.
Funny how the video of the UCLA girl receives more attention than this--that video wasn't even overtly racist, meanwhile this video is incredibly (-understatement-) sexist.
It's simple. The UCLA girl made a video and uploaded it to the internet. Videos become viral, memos do not. Not everything is a conspiracy against women!!
@kuunami The memo is inarguably more repugnant--especially considering the fact that it trivializes a violent crime. Society is conducting a conspiracy against women--Cosmopolitan, Playboy, rating systems, rape/sexual assault, and pornography are all agents of destruction. As a man, you wouldn't understand.
The idea that I wouldn't understand why that memo is offensive because I'm a man is offensive. But as a woman you wouldn't understand why that statement is offensive RIGHT?
You completely misunderstood my point. I agree that the memo is offensive. My point is that the fact that it's not widely known about like the UCLA girl has nothing to do with the fact that he's putting down women but rather, the reasons that I stated earlier.
I absolutely understand. With an open and rational mind such things are obvious. Even though I am male sexism disgusts me more than any other "ism" because it is so deeply ingrained in our society and many aspects of it are never questioned. Beyond normal human sympathy, I realize that it is extremely harmful to our culture/economy/etc. and that it warps female self perception to the point that I'm hard pressed to find a a real woman.
@waldoman7 Hey, I think it's awesome when males in our society make an earnest attempt to fight sexism :) (and/or racism...and any other "ism", for that matter). It's so nice to see--and it's incredibly appreciated :) We should all fight together to eliminate inequality.
Oh yeah, this guy is so tough. Maybe if he gave his name out we would see how good of a cocksman he is. My guess is he wouldn't get laid very much by the non-people.
@HereMikeWas Freedom of speech just means he can't get into legal trouble for what he wrote. He will probably be kicked out of the fraternity, and hopefully get into some kind of trouble with the university. If that upsets you, too bad, school rules baby.
@mattj91x what he wrote was a old joke its nothing new and it should be taken as a joke. and the people with no sense of humor to bad this country is becoming a bunch of soft belly oversensitive babies! the person who wrote it should not loose out on their education even if they want to become a cocksmen!
Methinks this guy has some sort of mommy issues or something. "You didn't love me, mom! You weren't there for me when I grew up. Now I'm gonna take out my frustrations on all women."
The tone of that letter made it sound like a joke. It is a sexist joke. A well written, sexist joke. Whether you like it or not, that's a valid criticism. Eh. Being female, I really don't know how I feel either way. This sounds like typical man talk. Let him say that crap to his girlfriend. Because, if he actually believes it, he will be a sad lonely man for the rest of his life. Or he'll turn out like Charlie Sheen.
That's why i only keep my sexist thoughts too myself,or too another man. Because pussy is hard too come by these days my friend. At least when ure broke like me.
I don't understand why they're surprised about their admission to university. Universities don't check if students are sexist or racist before admitting them.
Joke or not for him to get that lengthy well..ana just always hates on blondes like someone else said. Its so true. I don't like the bitch either but she will find any excuse to call one stupid.
I think this shit is hilarious he was obviously trying to be funny. To me it felt like a joke the whole time. A "cock-smith" who uses that unless you are trying to be funny. I loved that email and need to find the whole version. If you think its sexist fine maybe it is, but it is sexist in such an obviously that is obvious that the person that wrote it is not sexist. I am sorry but to me it seems ridiculous to think anything other then that he was joking, and i found it fucking hilarious.
this isnt true, it was written by a harvard member of kappa sig, and then sent to a kappa sig group in san diego, a member of that kappa sig chapter tranfered to USC where a girl saw it and sent it to her friends
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Kapasig20 18 hours ago
what is sarcasm and satire???? i don't get these concepts
Ksig on a roof!!
cheetawakeboarder 2 months ago
It wasn't from a Kappa Sigma, a student got access to the list serve and sent it, headquarters made that guys life hell for it.
insanevzn1 5 months ago
Actually, being a Kappa Sigma or a member of pretty much any other Fraternity is supposed to be about being a gentleman and walking a path to properly exemplify the principles of honor and respect for oneself and those around him. Unfortunately this is an example of conduct unbecoming of a gentleman, but to blame it on being a "frat guy" is just ignorant. If a non-greek member of the university wrote this, no one would make any big deal of it or probably even care at all.
mramerecka 5 months ago 4
"how do you stop 5 black guys from raping a white girl? throw them a basketball." okay now is this offensive? is this amusing? should you send me abusive comments and have me banned from making comments? Or should we throw oliver stone in jail and delete platoon an oscar winning film where i heard this joke? free speech or censorship? be offended or understand irony?
pregnant9 6 months ago
@pregnant9 Nope... you should not receive any repercussions legal or otherwise for saying this. HOWEVER if you did get raped by 5 White guys... that would be pretty ironic.
stunnaonflyrims 6 months ago
i am really shocked on the view of young turks about this "dont write emails like this". what about write whatever the fuck you want its obviously supposed to be amusing and ironic i will refer to woman as targets cmon chill out wheres the harm maybe we should all be politicly correct. any individual should be allowed to express themself he definately should not be expelled. i watched bill hicks revelations the other day about goat boy and i cringed it was extremely offensive but so fuck
pregnant9 6 months ago
@pregnant9
You really think that you are even remotely as funny or as intelligent as Bill Hicks? Well, allow me to express myself: you're a sniveling, spoiled, overprivileged shithead who doesn't give a shit about the safety or well-being of women.
Asarelah 5 months ago
@Asarelah lol donkament at no point was i ever attempting to be amusing nor was i attempting to compare myself to bill hicks i can assure you that i am neither spoiled or overprivileged but thank you for your well considered reply asareiah did you enjoy bill hicks goat boy sketch? would you have had that removed from circulation would you remove my comments? these are the points i am trying to make do we allow people to make politically incorrect comments or should we censor(i try not to snivel)
pregnant9 5 months ago
@pregnant9
Newsflash: Freedom of speech doesn't equal freedom from the consequences of that speech. In other words...just because you can say something doesn't mean that you should.
Asarelah 5 months ago
@Asarelah No, you have a right to express idiocy but you have no right to expect you won't be treated like an idiot.
vince33x 1 month ago
TROLL IN THE DUNGEON!!!
TROLL IN THE DUNGEON!!
gagster0301 7 months ago
It's USC guys why would you be surprised? XD
OLEMISSHOTTYTODDY111 7 months ago
Yeah, Kappa Sigma is generally known nation wide as a lower-tier fraternity anyways.Please don't let these "frat boys" reflect poorly on real fraternity gentlemen.
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ghylind 8 months ago
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365to173repubsPWNED 10 months ago
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enblessin207 10 months ago
He is trollin. Also, what? Surprised? You sluts around the world made created this mess. Deal with it.
SupermarketsRevil 10 months ago
The reason it is national news is precisely for the same reasons I am annoyed by the ignorant comments from some of u immature BOYS. You don't get it do u? He has to learn about this, meaning respect of women for starters, along with everything else in college. If Yale doesn't want to uphold that then they should have that 500 mil grant taken away. When a college will suspend 24 students for cheating yet only REPRIMAND 4 students 4 assault, sex. har.and RAPE then it itself is showing disrespect
itzmecherrilgeorge 10 months ago
The reason it is national news is precisely for the same reasons I am annoyed by the ignorant comments from some of u immature BOYS. You don't get it do u? He has to learn about this, meaning respect of women for starters, along with everything else in college. If Yale doesn't want to uphold that then they should have that 500 mil grant taken away. When a college will suspend 24 students for cheating yet only REPRIMAND 4 students 4 assault, sex. har.and RAPE then it itself is showing disrespect.
itzmecherrilgeorge 10 months ago
Not all free speech is intelligent or acceptable. And of course expressions have consequences.
andrewsaccount09 10 months ago
You guys should do a story on Yale's potential Title IX violations.
EllaBelle18 10 months ago
How did he get into USC???? um how did you get into usc? o yeah youre black
Tarhole37 11 months ago
The only reason that man is "screwed" is because there are stupid bitches out there who are offended over trivial shit.
Its a stupid email, sent around a fraternity of some guy saying guys should "be players", probably because he just had a bad breakup or got rejected or something, who cares... why is this national/international news?
Wolfau5 11 months ago
Oh and the Fraternity SHOULDN'T reveal the man's identity or expell him. At worst make him listen to some boring SH&D talk (the kind I'm sure they run in hell 24/7) and maybe make him write a formal apology.
Seriously... aside from saying something someone didn't like what did he really do? He didn't harm anyone, he didn't damage property, he didn't break the law, he just made some prudish people gasp and cry "oh the humanity".
Wolfau5 11 months ago
Does this BS really deserve any attention? It was so far beyond any scope of reason that it's only rightful place is a trashcan!
GeraldR5 11 months ago
disgusting.
lutapelaverdade 11 months ago
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this e-mail was clearly a joke that some1 sent to his friends that went viral, u guys r all gdis
tommymo89 11 months ago
this e-mail was clearly a joke that some1 sent to his friends that went viral, u guys r all gdis
tommymo89 11 months ago 5
i dont think idiots "squeeze" their way in, school just want the money, why wouldnt they let in people...
satbir129 11 months ago
Non-consent and rape are 2 different things. Rape is by force, whilst non-consenting sex can happen through coercion but for some reason is considered rape (Under British law anyway).
bradnaldinho 11 months ago
@bradnaldinho
If you think that non-consent and rape are two different things, please kill yourself.
Asarelah 8 months ago
i hope his brothers have discontentual sex with this man
skwaag5233 11 months ago
What if someone hacked your password and you took the blame?
LarryAT22 11 months ago
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LarryAT22 11 months ago
what if someone else saw an unlocked computer and typed this trash in as a prank? would you
LarryAT22 11 months ago
his momma probably buys him everything and he can't cook or survive on his own
hkpopfan4lif3 11 months ago
Not all frat guys are dicks - just a majority of them. Fraternities and Sororities claim to have a "Code of Conduct", but I guarantee that code only applies if they are caught violating it by an outsider, and there's no way for them to justify it.
DisturbedHavok 11 months ago
Or maybe he just likes manipulating people's feelings as if they are puppets.
gamehazard101 11 months ago
i hope another guy has unconsentual sex with him after all by his defintion it wouldnt be that guy raping him
kazooga1234 11 months ago
What do you expect from a frat guy. Some stereotypes are true.
tatertotter808 11 months ago 13
Funny how the video of the UCLA girl receives more attention than this--that video wasn't even overtly racist, meanwhile this video is incredibly (-understatement-) sexist.
BRIANNAistalksick 11 months ago 14
@BRIANNAistalksick
It's simple. The UCLA girl made a video and uploaded it to the internet. Videos become viral, memos do not. Not everything is a conspiracy against women!!
kuunami 10 months ago
@kuunami The memo is inarguably more repugnant--especially considering the fact that it trivializes a violent crime. Society is conducting a conspiracy against women--Cosmopolitan, Playboy, rating systems, rape/sexual assault, and pornography are all agents of destruction. As a man, you wouldn't understand.
BRIANNAistalksick 10 months ago
@BRIANNAistalksick
"As a man, you wouldn't understand"
The idea that I wouldn't understand why that memo is offensive because I'm a man is offensive. But as a woman you wouldn't understand why that statement is offensive RIGHT?
You completely misunderstood my point. I agree that the memo is offensive. My point is that the fact that it's not widely known about like the UCLA girl has nothing to do with the fact that he's putting down women but rather, the reasons that I stated earlier.
kuunami 10 months ago
@BRIANNAistalksick
I absolutely understand. With an open and rational mind such things are obvious. Even though I am male sexism disgusts me more than any other "ism" because it is so deeply ingrained in our society and many aspects of it are never questioned. Beyond normal human sympathy, I realize that it is extremely harmful to our culture/economy/etc. and that it warps female self perception to the point that I'm hard pressed to find a a real woman.
waldoman7 5 months ago
@waldoman7 Hey, I think it's awesome when males in our society make an earnest attempt to fight sexism :) (and/or racism...and any other "ism", for that matter). It's so nice to see--and it's incredibly appreciated :) We should all fight together to eliminate inequality.
BRIANNAistalksick 5 months ago
@BRIANNAistalksick she got more attention cuz she was a hot chick with big boobs
evilnurse09 10 months ago
@BRIANNAistalksick
oh absolutely. freaking out about racism is the fad. sexism on the other hand, is so widespread that it's seen as normal.
waldoman7 5 months ago
Oh yeah, this guy is so tough. Maybe if he gave his name out we would see how good of a cocksman he is. My guess is he wouldn't get laid very much by the non-people.
cheezbawl2003 11 months ago
It was clearly a joke.
flake452 11 months ago
this guy should be gelded...
Zajuts149 11 months ago
The only funny shite of that total fail of an e-mail was the word "cocksman." The rest is pretty much unfunny.
unabomberman 11 months ago
I feel bad when these shows don't get many views. They deserve more views god poopit
redice1024 11 months ago
This is a joke and if your offended to bad freedom of speech baby.
HereMikeWas 11 months ago
@HereMikeWas Freedom of speech just means he can't get into legal trouble for what he wrote. He will probably be kicked out of the fraternity, and hopefully get into some kind of trouble with the university. If that upsets you, too bad, school rules baby.
mattj91x 11 months ago
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@mattj91x what he wrote was a old joke its nothing new and it should be taken as a joke. and the people with no sense of humor to bad this country is becoming a bunch of soft belly oversensitive babies! the person who wrote it should not loose out on their education even if they want to become a cocksmen!
HereMikeWas 11 months ago
Methinks this guy has some sort of mommy issues or something. "You didn't love me, mom! You weren't there for me when I grew up. Now I'm gonna take out my frustrations on all women."
whoo689 11 months ago 3
without his identity this is a non-story.
moviedude22 11 months ago
There's a difference between intelligence and emotional/social intelligence. The UCLA girl definitely lacks social intelligence.
johnolin 11 months ago
@johnolin is there a link to that video I want to see it? ty
HereMikeWas 11 months ago
The tone of that letter made it sound like a joke. It is a sexist joke. A well written, sexist joke. Whether you like it or not, that's a valid criticism. Eh. Being female, I really don't know how I feel either way. This sounds like typical man talk. Let him say that crap to his girlfriend. Because, if he actually believes it, he will be a sad lonely man for the rest of his life. Or he'll turn out like Charlie Sheen.
AudioVideoDisco06 11 months ago
That's why i only keep my sexist thoughts too myself,or too another man. Because pussy is hard too come by these days my friend. At least when ure broke like me.
kjaoend 11 months ago
He calls himself a cocksman and does not see women as people...hmmmm.
mistacramer 11 months ago
They squeeze their way in? Don't you mean they pour in?
Shisho2k 11 months ago
I don't see why a school would come under fire for this. I understand it's sexist, but I think it may be a bad attempt at satire.
animation508 11 months ago
@animation508 Seriously? He trivializes and condones rape, essentially. I don't understand people. I suppose racism is more of an issue than sexism.
BRIANNAistalksick 11 months ago
I don't see a problem with that e-mail.
Nielsen700 11 months ago
I don't understand why they're surprised about their admission to university. Universities don't check if students are sexist or racist before admitting them.
verse1923 11 months ago
Joke or not for him to get that lengthy well..ana just always hates on blondes like someone else said. Its so true. I don't like the bitch either but she will find any excuse to call one stupid.
JustABitchyCancer 11 months ago
Wtf ana? U are saying this guy is better than that girl basically. This guy sounds worse! Wtf is wrong with you?? He sounds like he would beat women!
JustABitchyCancer 11 months ago
Ana how did you pronounce 'applicable'?
cheddyrod 11 months ago
That was such a joke. Half of that shit was straight out of Wedding Crashers.
hitch4645 11 months ago
I think this shit is hilarious he was obviously trying to be funny. To me it felt like a joke the whole time. A "cock-smith" who uses that unless you are trying to be funny. I loved that email and need to find the whole version. If you think its sexist fine maybe it is, but it is sexist in such an obviously that is obvious that the person that wrote it is not sexist. I am sorry but to me it seems ridiculous to think anything other then that he was joking, and i found it fucking hilarious.
ccndr 11 months ago
this isnt true, it was written by a harvard member of kappa sig, and then sent to a kappa sig group in san diego, a member of that kappa sig chapter tranfered to USC where a girl saw it and sent it to her friends
MyBrandon82 11 months ago