Say Cheese With MaximusBlack Game 12

[JohnERROR]

25 idle workers for 2.5 minutes.. no me gusta

[jakabob603]

"the son of a bitchfuck build" lmfao

[NovemberAlphaTango]

I wish I could have responded to his "Protoss is pretty imba" comment. I would have said, "I'm sure it feels like that to you right now."

[MrBurnlan]

Epic Iron Maiden cover is epic

[snarf3456]

golf caster voice FTW

[Inquiescent]

13:22

[xXshreddedmetalXx]

I want to see a planetary fortress rush!!!!

also i don't know what exactly the SOBF build is

[coreykoehn123123123]

M-O-T-H-E-R-S-H-I-P R-U-S-H PLZ

[cjpolodo]

And yet the EMPs from the SOBF build fail to appear...

[VashuTStampedo]

SOBF build?

[MrBBrucEE]

Bitch please, my DT Rush gets DTs out at around the 7 min mark. I DT Rush 60% of the time vs everything besides Terran

[jasonmage]

@MrBBrucEE Meanwhile in bronze league...

[Sadevile]

This game tl;dr : socks were blown off.

[doowstados]

want moar worker rushes.

[ah3650]

use hot keys for god's sake

[Jophus999]

that was terrible

[micwukicku]

The best thing about the video was when Mr Black was so focused he didn't answer Nova's questions :P

[aleksr04]

GGGGGGG  GGGGGGGG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PBfreak808]

what is the sobf build?

[Lord314159]

@PBfreak808 1/1/1 build

[PBfreak808]

@Lord314159 nah, it looked more like a 2 or 3 rax with ghosts

[panoshanos1]

i subbed after the girafe

[Rezoxel]

Who played the "Oh my Lord, he did the son of a bitch fuck build" over and over? Lol

[Woolfieman]

I'm gonna download the "Oh my Lord, he did the son of a bitch fuck" (without build) as my cell phone ringtone.

[FeepingCreature]

With that "yes sir" thing .. do you have some kind of dom/sub dynamic going on?

[RFLangley]

HOLY GREAT WALL OF FORCE FIELDS

[llama3aterr]

are you playing with one hand or something? lmfao

[guyonwabbit]

@llama3aterr why

[EvoProd]

16:47 MASTER BLACK

[youdoxie]

So stupid. He could have gotten a ghost and EMP'd the DTs. He even had the ghost academy.

[chrissmith338]

tempLAR  :-P

[lotaso]

i've only played this game 3 times, yet i find the need to watch every episode you guys do.

[C0nstellati0ns]

DT rush vs terran? wat................

[PCGamerPortal]

@C0nstellati0ns DT rush is very doog against terran. It is just bad agianst zerg cause they can get detection the easiest once they have lair. Scans hurt their economy bad, and its easy to micro away form scans most of the time.

[chucklez117]

What does imo mean? Ive never seen that before

[xxGamerboyxx23]

@chucklez117 google is your friend

[chucklez117]

@xxGamerboyxx23 I really dont see what the point of telling me too look it up, when you could have used less time just to say what it meant...

[Antiteshmis]

@chucklez117 think it was "imba"

[TheOJDrinker]

Masterpiece Starcraft.

[Monkey6K]

I say you both play against eachother, while you both are cheesing, randoming, and casting at the same time.

[tthething]

Dont you get some delay on EU servers? like 200 latency or so?

[bluey1695]

@tthething barely noticable, 200 latency is barely a couple milliseconds

[MrStaxxy]

@bluey1695

200 ping is 200 millisecond.

[bogdan192]

The toss DT rush is very crippling to any race but especially terrans that didnt scout it :D.

[holsson85]

What does imba mean? :)

[darklight436]

@holsson85 imbalanced



[xxinferno12]

@holsson85 I believe it means imbalanced.



[Kassidar]

who's this retard who didn't know that emp decloacks DTs

[insight1337]

hm, got an idea with this vid, having a DT on higher ground for stalkers to blink

[wecatante]

13:23 - 13:33 Adam's secret language :)

[chuigumful]

Seems like every race is Imba to the losers XD

[Pangjunmin]

GG

[SaintStarcraft]

@LifesAGlitchTV Hey guys, I think you should use hotkeys even if its for just cheesing :) It improves your Likeliness of pulling the cheese off. If you treat your cheese like a real game it can help you improve like a real game. Here is some suggestions on what you can do for hotkeys and i don't want you guys saying that you aren't good enough to pull it off due to not being pro, practice makes perfect.

1) army

2)stalker

3) caster (ht)

4) nexuses

5) robo

9/0) Forges / upgrades

GlHf guys ^^

[ice3021]

@SaintStarcraft They don't use hotkeys, not because they don't think they can, but because it works for them not to. Jeff also doesn't like it when people tell him that... Be careful posting this

[JustGuideMe]

@ice3021 stfu

[SaintStarcraft]

@ice3021 You misunderstand what I mean. I have no doubt that Jeff can use hot keys I was talking about specific unit controls e.g stalker on a separate hot keys. In previous videos I've heard them say stuff like 'Only the top level players control stalkers separately.' I think even bronze players should try to play at the highest level. Not saying "oh I'm bad so I may as well not try to be good. or get good slowly" take on more than you can handle and force yourself to get better.

[ice3021]

@SaintStarcraft I completely understood what you meant. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

[suguruko]

@ice3021 what cheese need is speed. Don't tell me any player can cheese better with slow mouse clickings for multitasks compared with keyboard hotkeys. If there was a neuro-device for playing starcraft, which could excute actions much quicker, I think everyone should even use it instead. It's a pity there are good creative ways to play, but it failed to execute well due to slow actions...

[Acityandasunset]

SATURATE YOUR EXPANSIONS WITH OLD PROBES >.<

[TheNinjaizer]

Please... use... hotkeys.

-A loving fan.

[ygvrf]

LOL, for the whole time, MaximusBlack is like "god, stfu"

[suguruko]

I always think that playing Starcraft without using hotkeys completely seems to be kinda insulting to your opponent, cant imagine this is really a Platinum level re-play... The process was fun anyway, and good luck for the upcoming plays :P

[666Seryan]

Just to put it out there: about noticing imbalance, the races in SC2 are actually more balanced at high skill levels instead of low (since it was Blizzards higher priority).

So it is actually the other way around of what you said, at lower skill levels there seems to be an imbalance, yet when you get better and learn to use everything you've got (and some things are harder to use then others), the imbalance fades away.

Statistics do show that in TvP is the most imbalanced at LOW skill levels.

[latestarter027]

lol you guys are awesome!

[GenericZergling]

Psst... why doesnt he have the black portrait O,..,O. just askin

[KOJIDARTH]

Mothership sucks stfu

[MeisterRufio]

Sour about that toss.

[Lego0012]

one of the best so far...must have been hell of a apmrush

[Vupre89]

13:25 Mubleblblbolbobubblbo LOL!

[NoisyNinjaSC2]

The Terran player sucked a lot. DTs can be revealed with an EMP. What the fuck kind of Terran doesn't know that?

[Sethrezin]

I am surprised you can be a platinum player and only have 120 achievment points. No other protraits? Care to explain?

[SC2Oilrunner]

@Sethrezin this is his european account his main american account has more.

[LaZodiac]

Probably doesn't care about the story mode.

[Kaiwano]

Fun game :) Just a litte tip you can double tap hotkeys to move the camera and I think you would avoid a lot of minimap clicking/edgescrolling if you utilized it more.

[Dulcis90]

You guys should set up a match against eachother where you base eachothers bases.. would be good for a laugh :)

[2JoeStudios]

just FYI a dt rush should hit at the 7 minute mark

[GeometriXza]

Here's a challenge for you guys: you both cheese and somehow cast at the same time, doing a 2v2 game in which you roll random.

[zimri19]

@GeometriXza this

[TheBaron87YT]

Even after being told to be sure your Zealots are in front, the stalkers still don't get moved to the back. Protip: Ctrl+click, right click away, A click back.

[DYLwat100]

Those chinese dudes dont have anything to LAGTV's great wall of force fields lol

[MrAnd3rsson]

lol Novas comments are simply brilliant xD

[ningjafs]

MOTHERSHIP RUSH ALREADY

[awesomelyguy]

Iron Maiden ftw

[narsil1984]

a T calling P imba... that must the be the stupidest thing of all times -.-

[TheInfectous]

@narsil1984 p is imba lol death ball is harder then the 4 gate to beat

[narsil1984]

@TheInfectous Rubbish.

Terran's T1 units beat P's equivalents, so early game goes to T.

Midgame P needs to invest heavily into tech, both colossi and HT cost ALOT.

T's counters... not so much. A ghost with EMP can turn the tide of any battle (ex: TSL3 finals ace match).

I'm not saying T is imba, there may be small things that deserve fixing, but overall, there's certainly no imbalance favoring P.

Oh, it may feel that way though for Ts who only get low tech... and expect to win vs higher tier P.

[SirFrancisBaconn]

@narsil1984 Terran T1 only beat P's if they have Stim and Conc Shells. If P has Blink and Charge then they are pretty even.

[narsil1984]

@SirFrancisBaconn That's not really T1 units anymore with those upgrades.

And, did you for a second compare time and money required to get those ups? T gets both ups for 200/200, with a lab they have to build anyways for their units. P makes CC, then TC, then the 2 ups. 200/200 for starge, 150/150 for blink, and TC also costs some frigging gas. We're talking 3x the price here.

Also, tbh, it's a risky and rare thing for decent Ps to go for those ups, because: exposed to early pressure and banshee

[TheInfectous]

@narsil1984 well i would say that if u make a mistake as t it could cost u a game against the deathball p was certainly imba when they could 4gate though

[narsil1984]

@TheInfectous Punctuation is win btw.

Anyways, "make a mistake" can cost you the game with any race: 1 emp on HTs can lose you the game, one bad blink, one false movement with the colossi vs the dirt cheap vikings/marauder...

I dont think 4gate was much of a problem in TvP, unless the T didnt manage to scout his own base for pylons (and if he doesnt, then he deserves to lose, period). The major problem of 4gate was PvP, where every player did it. All the time.

[Blueblox321]

@narsil1984 Dude! Protoss is prob the most OP race in the game! Protoss has the easiest macro mechanics and don't really need to micro only macro (only when Toss does like blink stalkers do they really need to micro). TvP the terran has to do a lot more than the protoss kite while macroing controlling his vikings and EMPing! toss complains about EMP because they can't 1a and win. if the terran gets a lot of ghosts don't get caster units? ZvP .......... is a cool matchup?

[narsil1984]

@Blueblox321 1-A, eh... let's see what T MMM has to do in a fight: 1, T, A, click.

P: position zealots to front, focus immortals on marauders (otherwise they're useless), sentries FF and/or GS, move back/forth with colossi vs vikings, focus vikings with stalkers, blink, cast storms and feedback (ghosts: 1 emp, click vs HT: 1 feedback per enemy ghost you wanna feedback).

Oh and about macro: T selects all prod, hits hotkeys, P selects, hotkey, place to warp.

[Blueblox321]

@narsil1984 Dood your main is that you suck more than that there is an imbalance if you can't win as protoss just shoot yourself because obviously your really bad!

[narsil1984]

@Blueblox321 You, sir, are a complete waste of oxygen on this planet. You may want to consider reading and/or understanding what you are responding to.

I have not been saying that P is underpowered, or that there is any major problem with the balance. On the contrary, I've merely been aiming at showing that P is, in fact, not OP. In other words, you fail.

Starting to flame and to throw insults around without knowing anything is the dumbest thing you could've done, 'dood'.

[Blueblox321]

@narsil1984 Okay here i goez! I quote "a T calling P imba... that must the be the stupidest thing of all times -.-" that comment makes you illegitimate and susceptible to getting trolled, you at that time were prob frustrated but saying that also says "I think TvP is broken (Terrans favored)" too that I disagree with you because terran really are having a hard time right now. they are only really strong mid early game. My last question to you is, what league are you in? I am a random diamond.

[narsil1984]

@Blueblox321 I'm not and wasnt frustrated. My first comment that you managed to quote correctly was aimed against somebody calling P imba. This comment was legitimate given the context of the game, i.e. a relatively low tech fight (rax units vs gateway, without any TC ups on the P). So I maintain it.

As for, ""I think TvP is broken (Terrans favored)"", you might wanna learn to read. I didnt say that, so dont put words in my mouth.

What I did say however was: "I'm not saying T is imba...".

[Blueblox321]

@narsil1984 okay the TvP is broken yes you didnt say that just wanted to put that in there because from the first comment you said you were talking about it -> this is what I got out of it "I think TvP is broken. ect....." second of all I am trying to figure out what makes terran not necessary OP but more powerful in the matchup as you said because to me the only REAL problem here is the number of casters vs EMP. EMP effects everyunit of protoss. they also have the largest amount of caster units

[narsil1984]

@Blueblox321 "the TvP is broken yes you didnt say that just wanted to put that in there"=> that's called a lie.

To me, the fact 1 ghost can negate 10 HTs if used properly, and at the same time cast a spell that removes up to 50% of all units' HP is a slight problem that deserves fixing (EMP a researchable spell, for instance). I still think that PvT is fair overall, but imo, HT tech should be made more viable, be it at the cost of buffing another T unit (to compensate nerf on ghosts).

[TheInfectous]

@narsil1984 althought in that situation terran should have been ahead if he was good

[bryanlow5]

shhhhh novawar his sleeping

[adamtomita]

"OH MY GOD, THEY DID THE SON OF A BITCH F*** BUILD!" now thats a shirt i would pay for.

[misdemeanor]

Please enable show hotkeys and use them, so you can cheese more efficiently.

-Cheese Lovers everywhere

[Bobert7397]

NUKE RUSH

[WisKill]

@McMiT2 It would require more micro than they can handle.

[Sethermieseter]

No Mothership rush? :(

[tastosisturtle]

lol at the "imba" comment. you didn't even have any of the "imba" P units (VRs, Colossi, and to a lesser extent, Immortals), so the terran was just fucking bad

[g0t91]

You guys should start something that deals with nukes.. NUKES ARE AWESOME!!!

[frozeninternalorgan]

lets see an archon rush :)

[desenutz18]

shoulda threw in some DTS in that ball..and DTS aint a cheese...

[Emaiahs]

Anyone else raged at the utterly pointless forcefields?

[sukrpunch]

He had ghosts..... why didn't he just emp the DT's?

[LetsPlayOblivious]

i know youve read over this comment 4 million times but. FREAKING MOTHERSHIP RUSH. IT WILL BE FUN. : )

[o0bananaman0o]

@LetsPlayOblivious thats requires day9 skill level

[THEMithrandir09]

@LetsPlayOblivious hmm funny seems like my idea hit some interest lol...

Guys if you don't know go to Team Liquid's SC2 Wiki and search for it, it is easy to do, on maps like scrap, and fun to watch^^

[DheRadman]

@LetsPlayOblivious they already have

[topstop24]

@DheRadman when??



[Ablumz]

@topstop24 They didn't I just went through all of them.

[topstop24]

@Ablumz dammit....they gotta do it then...........DO THE FREAKING MOTHERSHIP RUSH GUYS!!!!



[x0TehGameStation0x]

@topstop24 #19 i think was a mamaship rush

[LetsPlayOblivious]

@DheRadman I don't know where you are from but thank you, I just went through all 13 of the SayCheese with Maximus Black videos and not a single one involves anything even closely related to a mothership rush.

DON"T BE LYIN' ^^

[TsarDragon]

The voice reminded me of Ace Ventura

[XMrXv]

Lol, at the end his main was mined out and he was getting like no income for three minutes long.

[nikerdude]

Call the first DT that uses up all terran scans Willshire, just cuz its a badass name



[TheSoulSilv3r]

although im a protoss player, when people say protoss imba i wouldnt be surprised as they are an ancient psionic race capable of insane warfare.

[SonOfNye]

@TheSoulSilv3r Yet frail in comparison to the might of the Horde.

[TeshnosFire]

Damn you, Adam. First few seconds I'm like "Aaalright, lowering the volume a bit". So after having a fight with the 2mm sized volume regulator button thingy for a bit, you start whispering and I have to turn the volume up again.

I'd almost think you do this on purpose. :X

[TheSoulSilv3r]

oh man i hate the soabf build!

[TheSecretStalker21]

18:25 because the people on the north American ladder are better :D

[crazzynez]

you dont have to be in the high levels to realize that the races are imba... if anything its more noticeable in the lower levels when players are unable to find counters to specific builds

[riffetsork]

20 sec probe is a wild kinda cheese! :D I'm gonna start doing that! Oh I actually do some times! :(

[albusfr]

Why is MaximusBlack's portrait not the black guy??

[desthmoneses]

MOTHERSHIP RUSH!

[XxICon1Shot1KillxX]

does anyone know the cheapest site i can get this game?

[Owhenu]

The MaximusBlack GolfFap.

[fandanstan]

Jeff admitted to not being a good player, and he still won. Toss ain't imba, eh? hehehe

[Hewicks]

worker rush!

[DragonfallCIA]

This isn't really cheese. It's more like just a pretty solid game.

[imgdumpprep]

lol you guys suck

[austin7761]

That Terran really sucks if he let this game slip

[Desia101]

Did Maxblack swap to toss? wasn't one of these guys Zerg? do they both play toss now? or did they always play toss?

[helldrake77777]

FUCK SHATTERED TEMPLE, GIVE ME TAL'DARIM ALTAR!!! (rock)

[guv1111]

lolzers... a comment about an 'imba' race coming from a terran :)

[WTFhappenedWITHyou]

DTs are cheap. Do one of FreshDumbl's suggestions! :D

[KustokDheschel]

@WTFhappenedWITHyou DT's aren't really cheap, This guy had a almost perfect build for it... He should of just continued with the ghosts, Emp brings stealth out as well as scans, That's good enough till he gets a raven out, since he was so close to it anyhow. Then it's GG for the Toss... unless he Tech switches. :P Problem is a lot of terrans don't utilize Ghosts very often, and when they do it's a 1 trick pony ghost. Waste of resources at that point imo. :P

[skullmanwizard]

people on EU server kind of suck

[jp4477]

Adam you would make a great golf announcer with that quiet voice.

[vojo4anime]

@enderock13 geeeeegeeee=gg= good game (curtesy to say after you have lost in a game and want to say to the vs player that the game was good and they should respown the same way... to say that they 2 enjoyed the game... but have batman i wanna know 2...

[blazerider6]

other cheeses plz

[phirephate]

Dts are perhaps some of the coolest units SC2 has to offer.

[RedTigero9]

what girrafes



[mestiarcanus]

"I was just checking if you had socks on, and you did. But they got blown off, and so did everybody at home."

So Adam, I have a question. Is your mouth sore? :P

[MrNuNuMann]

terrens good begin and mid game toss is best mid game zergs best end game

[TamaNewb]

USE HOT KEYS!

[greyjeb]

He did a mothership rush. He lost. Jesus.

[LetsPlayOblivious]

@greyjeb look through his vids tell me if you see one with a mothership rush. I don't care if he loses I want to see him cast a game where he does it. ^^

[ChibiNinjax002]

If that terran player is watching I just wanna say you could of won by microing well when you did the first attack

[LLUZION]

hate watching retards try to play

[Compohsed]

@LLUZION Must be hard to play if you can't stand watching yourself.

OUCH. But seriously, give it a rest. If you don't like to watch, don't watch.

[LLUZION]

@Compohsed in diamond and never watching this shit again. thanks.

[Smoretoss]

@LLUZION Oh, you're in Diamond? So you're practically on your way to compete in the GSL! Can I have you replays, please?!

[LLUZION]

@Smoretoss no you cannot have i replays.

[123PETH]

I play better then that Terran. And i'm a bronze ZERG.

[purklefluff]

mothership rush incoming.

[jpopkamaria]

What's the son of a bitch fuck build?

[LeonPowalski1]

@jpopkamaria pf+thor rush

[gunzero99]

@jpopkamaria Son of a Bitch Fuck

S=Starport

B=Barracks

F=Factory

Son of a Bitch FUCK :D

[LifesAGlitchTV]

@gunzero99

It's actually barracks, factory, ghost academy. I don't know if he actually did do that, I just saw the early ghosts and said it immediately haha.

Adam

[LeonPowalski1]

sry, it's a ghost emp early

[HOLYCC]

imba my ass P isnt really