A little story about animal rights terror

[RBLA818]

Ratting Disabled because you're afraid of rejection?

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

@RBLA818, in that case, comments would have been disabled as well, no, the disabling of ratings serves the purpose that people who just *don't like* the video, no matter if it is true or not, don't just can thumb it down, but have to be more expressive about their critique, with other words: No spitting at my door.

It proved to be quite useful with topics which tend to stir up emotions.

[RBLA818]

@ThatGuyFromAustria No! One would have to read the comments to know what people think. But a ratting indicates it right up front. You're just justifying it to fit your twisted mind.

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

@RBLA818, aha, so I have a "twisted mind"? Well, take for example the video you just commented on, you're welcome to show me where I'm wrong.

Do you realize you are just about to prove my point (concerning ratings)?

[izelxx1]

I am glad you said that; Vegans feel often they occupy the moral high ground; Now most just indeed try to cajole one into their ways; However people like the SHAC typers actually encouraged people to threaten people and do things like firebomb their houses, stand outside a play loud music etc. Sort of like enhanced interrogation techniques! Now I am not totally gung ho for animal testing but think and feel that medical use animal testing is useful and necessary but should be limited.

[horsecrazygal1000]

i own horses,dogs and cats.i love my animals and would hate to see any harm to them.i can't say i'd wear a fur coat to me this is too much like wearing an animal.but unfortunately you will get extremists everywhere.people can be very passionate about their beliefs and think they're doing the right thing.i owned a few chickens that were caged hens and both had damaged feet and always had problems walking for the rest of their lives.so i think it's easy for people to resort to free range eggs as o

[1StoryImageFigure1]

My favorite part about animal rights idiocy is how the activists ignore humans. Humans are animals too.

[Surhotchaperchlorome]

*Standing ovation!*

[theoneandonlysiobhan]

Having watched closely a recent circus debate on here and seen first hand how vegans and animal rights activists hide their true identities, have secrets to hide, confess in private messages to being ALF and then show everyone their very own vegan hypocricy I can say thank God we have people like you on here.

[explosivediarrhea100]

Desecration of graves... that is some sick sick shit. Nobody deserves that regardless of what was done in life. I am not religious in any way, In fact, i would call myself atheist. However, The term Rest in Peace should apply to anyone regardless of what they believed in during life.

[JLZesbaugh]

The more I watch this the more I think on how off your facts are. Many People in Asia eat no dairy, and very little meat, I understand they are very healthy. In fact many Buddhists are vegetarian. So when you say 100% of people..cling to their usual diet, it sounds profound, but it's not really factual.

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

I want to remind you that the people in China had an average life expectancy of about 30 years a few decades ago, now it is about 70 years. Eas Asian diet is healthier than the European one? I do not think so.

[JLZesbaugh]

True, i would expect during the Vietnam/Asian conflicts, and other conflicts of westernization of that area. Let's go back to 100 years ago. More difficult to find the exact history.  A good argument, but I'm not ready to buy.

[JLZesbaugh]

Japan was largely vegetarian plus admittedly a sea based diet before western influence before 100 years ago. I argue some of their old values hang on of the largely vegetable carb diet, human bodies are more apt to. Therefore their current life expectancy is still higher based on these old values. Do you see any value to that statement?

[JLZesbaugh]

I used the modern US as an example, you live in Austria, we probably eat way more meat then you guys do on average. Or rather do you guys eat meat three times a day there on average?

[thegillotine09]

wow. 1 + 1 =2 reminds me of 1984. (although in the end 2 + 2 = "whatever you want it to be")

Another thing to note is that only now, when most people are more less involved than they have ever been with their food production, do they claim moral superiority over those who spend more time with animals than any other type of person: Livestock farmers, zookeepers, animal trainers, etc.

[itstomtomtom]

I do not make myself exclusive because of what I eat. There are extremists in every genre of people.

[DRAKULU]

Spectacular and brilliant! Five stars for you my friend.

[redponii]

Well done. Great vid, and succinct yet humor filled delivery.

[JLZesbaugh]

What are your thoughts on the link between crowding in animal food production facilities and the potential evolution of super viruses such as "Avian Flu" or "Swine flu" or possibly more destructive and drug resistant viruses forming in factory farm conditions being transmitted to humans?

[BetaWolfRunner]

Well personally I think that as a food scource animals disserve better treatment and respect then what factory farms provide, but im not going to try and throw a law on the factory farms to make a humane change under a law and time limit, but rather work with them and talk it out with them. People can be willing to talk if you ask.

[JLZesbaugh]

What if a clear link is established between these farming methods and a pandemic. Should we step in an place mechanisms in place to stop a demonstrable threat to human existence?

Most animal farmers would do more if they could, however the market prevents this as people demands low prices on goods.

Rasing the quality of life for animals makes the price prohibitive to poor people.

[ArsenicOverdose]

if i could rate this video, it would be 5/5.

i wish that the world would focus on the real terrorists: the ARA.

[guardianofanimals]

cont'd

If you're against abortion, but are non-violent yourself, do you align with extremists who bomb clinics,

killing innocent people, & perhaps even an unborn life? Do you condone the murder of an abortion doctor? Most anti-abortion people probably do not condone this kind of action.

As most animal rights activists do not condone retributive actions against humanity, either.

Respect for life, whether it be animal or human, is the fundamental message of most ARAs.

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

"ARA"s have no respect for life whatsoever, because in that case they would be able to accept life as it is, including the parts that do not match the imaginations of a bambi-syndrome-ridden mind.

[guardianofanimals]

"No respect for life whatsoever"? That baseless generalization tells me you have blinders on for your own fanatical cause/opinion, which puts you in the same class as Ingrid Newkirk, extremist extraordinaire. Since when does anyone have to accept or not accept life as it is? Is change not an option in your world? And if that is your argument, then follow your own words: accept life as it is, complete with people who don't want to see animals abused. It's a simple, reciprocal principle.

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

Because to accept something as it is is the very definition of the word "respect". So it is obviously not respect of life that drives you. What are the real reasons?

[guardianofanimals]

To hold something/someone in higher regard is the definition of respect.

To accept something as it is is tolerance.

Again, you are dancing around the fact that you do not follow your own words. You do not accept something as it is. That something is there are people, many of them, who do not tolerate animal abuse. Respectful, respectable people. You may get off on seeing animals in pain. We get it. We accept that that's in your genetic makeup to harm other life.

There you go. We can accept.

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

So, you respect life but do not tolerate it???

Btw, you do know the difference between animal welfare and animal rights, don't you?

Also, I am willing to ignore your fooling around about genetics, because of course, as human beings, both of us are perfectly suited for eating meat.

[guardianofanimals]

I respect life. I am tolerable of anyone, except those who abuse another's life, whether the abuses are against animals or humans. Can I change that other people abuse humans and animals? Not likely. I'm not trying to. That has to come from the individual themselves.

What you are willing to ignore or not is insignificant. You think in black & white. You're right, everyone who doesn't agree specifically with you is wrong. As for your eating meat comment, were you hoping you would make me gag?

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

To force animals to follow a diet strange to their biology is something I would call abuse.

And: Get a basic knowledge about biology, before you push an issue such as veganism.

[guardianofanimals]

Okay, guy, you sent this to me and I'm wondering why. When did I ever talk about forcing animals to follow a strange diet, and who's pushing veganism? I merely stated not all vegans are ARAs and not all ARAs are vegans.

You're looking for a contextual argument, I get that, but I'm not interested in parrying your obvious misinterpretations of what I stated throughout this page. Vegan, me... that's funny.

[ThatGuyFromAustria]

So, this means it is okay to kill an animal altough you would be able to avoid that?

Veganism is seen to be the logical consequence of animal rights, don't forget that.

[bigusdikus0]

haha another good vid showing stupidity of vegans

[guardianofanimals]

Not all vegans are animal rights extremists/terrorists.

Not all vegans are involved in causes outside their own health.

Not all animal rights activists are extremists.

Not all animal rights activists are violent against humans.

To care how an animal is treated is not a fanatical cause, but a compassionate one.

Extremists are those who take it to a intolerable level, even in the mind of most ARAs.

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[SdM45]

Grave desecration?!?! Holy fucking shit! these people have seriously blown a head gasket!

[kingtut521]

major difference with peta memebers and alf "terrorists" if people did the same things to animals as they did to humans it would make the holuacost look like a playground argument.

[raultalbot7]

Never understood animal rights terrorists. They fight for something that doesn't know or care if it's rights may have been violated and can't even join in the fight.

[coorscowgirl101]

Loved the video... its now one of my favorites

[RunAMuckGirl]

Great video!! Thank you!! Very useful for the fight that must be mounted against this insanity.

[canucktunes]

They routinely disregard human rights, which includes property rights, so they clearly don't give a damn about the rights of their fellow man.

If they truly valued rights, life and peace they'd condemn these criminal acts and surrender the mental cases that perform these crimes. They'd stop funding PETA, who support terrorists by giving money to their legal defense funds.

[tony543111]

Great vid thanks for posting