@mortalfrog0815 In 2:00 the strings are sounding in mf, so the violin passage is like interrupted with noise. I could saying a lot of morte things but I don't really want to.
@MHindemburg At 0:28, those accents are in fact in the finale edition of the score (Universal Edition). The string entry at 2:00 is thematic, and should be more present, whereas the violin solo is an ornamental line (and foreshadows the second movement).
And @mortalfrog0815 Let's see..., you want qualified comments. Oh dear! Where do I start. First, in Tempo. It's too damn fast, you barely can hear the little triangle's percussions because the metals erase their sound. Also, the orchestration; in 0:28 you can hear the horrible orchestration of Rattle. ¿What are those accents? They're not in the score. Right there, after the silence you hear sfffz and not crescendo, as it should be.
@MHindemburg this is your second comment on this video, your message has not changed. and even though i agree with you that abbado is an outstanding conductor, rattle is everything but an aggravation for the philharmoniker! please stop this nonsense and start making qualified comments...
Expressive, Bright. Very delicately. Clarinet, Oboe, Bassoon, and Horn's extraordinary Mr Stephan Dorhn. Greetings from Brazil. Congratulations Sir Simon Rattle and BerlinPhil.
why do the trumpets and clarinets look different? the clarinets have some weird different key system, and the trumpets look very different from the ones here in america. why is this so? do they have a different sound, range, or key? im a clarinetist myself, and i know the germans use Oehler and we use Boehm, but what about the trumpets? and why does germany and austria use these different systems?
@macintosh315 The trumpets are rotary valve trumpets, which are used mostly in europe. They have a more mellow sound, but have the same range. I'm not sure about the clarinets.
@lennic95 no, the clarinets i see in the video use a completely different system than the one used in america, with different fingerings and everything! i did some research; apparently this is called the "Oehler" system, and it's the standard in germany and austria; in pretty much the rest of the modern world, the Boehm system is preferred. look closely, there are rollers on the pinky keys (like a saxophone), and a bunch of extra rings that wouldn't be on american (Boehm system) clarinets.
Don't know why they use different systems but the trumpets you see here use rotary based valves like the ones most commonly made on french horns. The trumpets in America uses piston valves. Players using either ones need to get used to their counter parts. The german trumpet valves are faster to work with.
Simon Rattle is a great Mahlerist of all time
tissueowen 1 week ago
@mortalfrog0815 In 2:00 the strings are sounding in mf, so the violin passage is like interrupted with noise. I could saying a lot of morte things but I don't really want to.
MHindemburg 3 months ago
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Haeronthegreat 2 months ago
@MHindemburg At 0:28, those accents are in fact in the finale edition of the score (Universal Edition). The string entry at 2:00 is thematic, and should be more present, whereas the violin solo is an ornamental line (and foreshadows the second movement).
robpmusic 1 month ago
@sahand144 I miss Karajan too :,(
And @mortalfrog0815 Let's see..., you want qualified comments. Oh dear! Where do I start. First, in Tempo. It's too damn fast, you barely can hear the little triangle's percussions because the metals erase their sound. Also, the orchestration; in 0:28 you can hear the horrible orchestration of Rattle. ¿What are those accents? They're not in the score. Right there, after the silence you hear sfffz and not crescendo, as it should be.
MHindemburg 3 months ago
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Haeronthegreat 2 months ago
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Haeronthegreat 2 months ago
@MHindemburg Fair enough - everyone has their own opinions. Just, it isn't Rattle's orchestration...:P
adam246811 2 months ago
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Oh, dear, I can't stand Rattle. And I'm not joking, he's the worst conductor in the Berliner Philharmoniker ever. I miss Claudio Abbado =(
MHindemburg 3 months ago
@MHindemburg this is your second comment on this video, your message has not changed. and even though i agree with you that abbado is an outstanding conductor, rattle is everything but an aggravation for the philharmoniker! please stop this nonsense and start making qualified comments...
mortalfrog0815 3 months ago
@MHindemburg I miss Karajan
sahand144 3 months ago
1:15 what a beautiful cellist....
noirvalentin 3 months ago 4
GREAT
leoncioviolin 3 months ago
Un esecuzione meravigliosa.
Linchetto68 3 months ago
Hopefully there's No.8 and Das Lied von der Erde as well?
iOnlySignIn 3 months ago
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1:15, why zoom at her?
iter68 3 months ago
Expressive, Bright. Very delicately. Clarinet, Oboe, Bassoon, and Horn's extraordinary Mr Stephan Dorhn. Greetings from Brazil. Congratulations Sir Simon Rattle and BerlinPhil.
OlavoBLFilho 3 months ago
AWESOME i love EVERY single MOMENT of it <3
vickylovsmusic 3 months ago
MAGNÍFICO *****
SYSREV76 3 months ago
the concertmaster changed another violin when he's playing the solo parts?
hihasisa 3 months ago
@hihasisa
no. in the "scherzo" the concertmaster has to play a violin with strings that are
tuned in a different way
goodmanmusica 3 months ago
@goodmanmusica What do you mean? Could you be more specific?
dzhang122 3 months ago
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The worst version of this piece ever!! Rattle sucks!!
MHindemburg 3 months ago
@HIndenburg you suck
caversgreen 3 months ago
@MHindemburg, seriously? You have to be joking!
EdwardWhelanPiano 3 months ago 17
Wow, the musicians really move with the music, don't they?
classicalchristina 3 months ago 14
@classicalchristina How could you not with something this gorgeous?
WhiteNitE521 3 months ago
@classicalchristina Of course!!! They are European; not like American orchestras.
AlanHemenway 2 months ago
why do the trumpets and clarinets look different? the clarinets have some weird different key system, and the trumpets look very different from the ones here in america. why is this so? do they have a different sound, range, or key? im a clarinetist myself, and i know the germans use Oehler and we use Boehm, but what about the trumpets? and why does germany and austria use these different systems?
macintosh315 3 months ago
@macintosh315 The trumpets are rotary valve trumpets, which are used mostly in europe. They have a more mellow sound, but have the same range. I'm not sure about the clarinets.
trombonebro 3 months ago
@macintosh315 The clarinets are the standard ones they have in Europe. Maybe you saw a student model with less keys?
lennic95 3 months ago
@lennic95 no, the clarinets i see in the video use a completely different system than the one used in america, with different fingerings and everything! i did some research; apparently this is called the "Oehler" system, and it's the standard in germany and austria; in pretty much the rest of the modern world, the Boehm system is preferred. look closely, there are rollers on the pinky keys (like a saxophone), and a bunch of extra rings that wouldn't be on american (Boehm system) clarinets.
macintosh315 3 months ago
@macintosh315
Don't know why they use different systems but the trumpets you see here use rotary based valves like the ones most commonly made on french horns. The trumpets in America uses piston valves. Players using either ones need to get used to their counter parts. The german trumpet valves are faster to work with.
xtjc 3 months ago
Absolute quality !!!!
silviocpfrg 3 months ago
there is not another feeling compared with watch one of the Berliner Philharmoniker's Concerts.
manuelspcool 3 months ago
I love this channel! :)
sebastianrc 3 months ago
Simon, Rattle the sleigh bell!
iMakHugo 3 months ago
@iMakHugo No.
Hamburgerphil 3 months ago 2