Understanding Hexatonic Scales

[LedWilde]

Scales are endless. (Or something like that.) 1-3-4-6-10-11

[getsuga97]

there's also the whole tone scale.

[Metalcross1354]

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[Gui222Gui]

I prefer to think triads superposition when talking about hexatonic, D/C for exemple.

And any triads that don't have common notes works well (major over minor, minor over minor, augmented over augmented, etc.) The tough job is to remember which superposition works on which chords :P

Jerry Bergonzi wrote a very good books about hexatonic scales if someone need a complete book about it.

[richcochrane]

@Gui222Gui Definitely, I first encountered Bergonzi's superimposed-triad approach many years ago and it changed the way I thought about scales in general. Well worth a look.

[sliknutzzzz]

hahaha...at 1st i thought he was gonna bust out the simpsons theme song! lol

[Lydian7lc]

@creativeguitarstudio What pickups are you using? and what is that black box on your guitar??

[philnoll]

I'm pretty sure its called Prometheus scale because of a Scirabin piece that uses it called Prometheus: Poem of Fire

[GuitaristWayneWhite]

@philnoll This scale is so named not because of Scriabin but because of the Greek scholars and philosophers that discovered it while studying the instrument known as the monochord, which was in reality a piece of metal wire that was stretched across a board and tightened. I can see why you would think that but that is a history mistake. It's all good, you can check what I am saying out and see what I am talking about. I had to repy to this because of a music history course series I took.

[philnoll]

@GuitaristWayneWhite What I'm finding online is that the term was invented by Leonid Sabaneev. You may be right, but its just not what I'm finding online anywhere

[BigIdeasLondon]

@GuitaristWayneWhite That doesn't sound very likely to me, but I guess it's possible there's some Greek connection (besides the title of Sciabin's composition, of course). Can you give us a reference to somewhere where this is discussed?

[joesatriani1200rulez]

hey man, i was just wondering and i pretty sure i know im right but the C prometheus scale is basically the same as C lydian dominant but just without the G, and even though your using C7b5 as the example chord or C13 or any altered one, all dominant chords are made up of the 1 b7 3 and 5th so you could still use the G added in with the altered notes so could you just say C prometheus is eaxctly the same as C lyd dominant but without the G?

[philnoll]

@joesatriani1200rulez The promethian scale is derived from a hexachord with the same name. So it might be more accurate to think of it as a type of chord instead of a scale.

[loungefly1]

Great lessons! I have some ideas if this is hard to memorize for some. If you know melodic minor,you know the Prometheus scale. Its the same as Lydian dominant without its 5th.(The 4th mode of melodic minor)

Simpler yet, If you only know minor pentatonic,think of it in B (but flatten the root changing all B's to Bb's)over the C7b5 heard here. Youll be flying over C Prometheus notes quickly & easily yet never even playing the root!(C)~Simple and cool

[LydianHarmony]

Hey Andrew, thank you very much for covering this scale that I just discovered today and looked it up on here afterwards... Another aspect that I would be interested in would be; what possible chord scales would go with it from top to bottom, do you know what I mean?

[sarracatuf]

Hi, just one question, the song of the ending is just an improvisation of yours, or a particular piece? I liked it very much, hope you tell me. Greetings

[creativeguitarstudio]

@sarracatuf ... Yes, that is one of my songs from off of my album. The album is available from off of the CreativeGuitarStudio[dot]com website for instant download. Thanks for the kind words.

All the best,

Andrew Wasson

[Modes9]

There's actually a family of pentatonic scales as well. There's an entire chapter of the Nicolas Slonimsky Thesaurus of Scales devoted to different pentatonic scales.

[masilybox]

hey---I'm a classical musician, so my version of music theory is probably rather different, but in the classical world, "hexatonic scale" has a specific meaning, just like the "pentatonic" scale does. for classical theorists, the hexatonic scale is the second augmented scale that you mentioned (eg. C,Eb,E,G,G#,B). the prometheus scale that you talk about is named after a tone poem called Prometheus by the composer Alexander Scriabin, who used it as a chord frequently

[BlikeNave]

Really useful. I'm learning tons from you. Literally about 20% of my entire theory was born from your videos. Thank you!! I'm about to go to the wholetone lesson next. This is really great. Like I srsly come home, planning on watching these videos for fun. : D Keep on postin!

[jasmmmm]

Those opening licks were fantastic!

[freak49]

good video! Lots of good stuff to work on.

[dtm112]

hey, is that book scales of the world available online?!

[EstevanMusic]

I like the dodecatonic scale xD

[rach1449]

I bought a great book a few years ago called: "Hexatonics" by Jerry Bergonzi (saxophone player). I really got a lot from that book and I would recommend it to people interested in the hexatonic concept (it's got a great play-a-long cd with it too).

[jippie11261]

I don't understand why you said that pentatonic is one type of scale 01:36.

The pentatonic is a few scales, isn't it? Like major and minor, and the

Blues and also the major pentatonic? Am I missing something...

Sorry for maybe asking a dumb question!

Thanks for the lesson here today Andrew!

[creativeguitarstudio]

@jippie11261 Not a dumb question at all... The common, "Western-World" Pentatonic is a type of scale that removes the half-steps from the basic Major & Natural Minor Scales. There are however other Pentatonic types (modes and scales of the world), that create other interval designs.

Hope this makes sense!

Thanks for Watching.

- Andrew Wasson

[311allmixedup]

Blues is not pentatonic btw

[MrElias090295]

@311allmixedup It IS pentatonic + the b5

[Defalto]

Never heard of Hexatonic, but after hearing you play it, I think I love it.

[col33145]

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[GreySugizo]

cool lesson!