If I'm reloading xm193 brass from Lake City. I fire the round, then use swagger. The next time I reload the round I won't have to you the swagger again. Correct?
@02840 The brass is once fired which is why I had to swage it. It's clean because I cleaned the brass in a vibratory cleaner before I deprime, resize, and then swage.
okay i have a question i am using a superswage 600 and it doesnt seem to be getting the crimp COMPLETELY out! i have to pull the lever two times and then rotate and do it twice more but the crimp is still there. any suggestions? some are 08 some are 06, 05, 07 some are 223, or 302???? should i see more brass coming out because all i really see are thin shavings
@murreyhaze The amount of swaging is set by adjusting the locator rod. You'll have to do it by trial and error. If it's too light (primers just won't fit in the pocket without damaging them), then adjust the locator rod by loosening the nut, turning it about a quarter turn and retightening the nut. Keep repeating until the swage is good. Note that you don't want excessive swage. I like to swage it just enough so there's a good amount of primer pocket 'grip' on the primer.
@ocabj thank you so much, i think ive got it down... i was looking for excessive swage because i thought that is what i needed. but it works out just fine when i stretch it...
Do you buy the brass new or shoot it and reuse? Also, could you send me a load or two you like using LC brass if you could? I'm just learning reloading and shot my first reloads a week ago using min charge of varget, Hornady 55gr FMJ and Winchester case & primer. I'm wokring on 69gr Sierra too. Subscribed.
I usually acquire once fired LC, which is why I bought the Dillon Super Swage 1200. Brand new, unfired, unprimed LC brass does not have crimped primer pockets (since it's not primed yet).
My competition load for High Power Rifle "Across the Course" is 77gr Sierra/Nosler/Lapua BTHP, 24.0gr RL15, LC, CCI BR4 or Remington 7-1/2 for the 200/300 yard lines. For 600 yards, I use Lapua brass. But when I first started shooting HP, I would use 80gr Sierra, 24.5gr RL15, LC, and CCI BR4.
Have you tried any of the Hornady bullets out? Also, how do you like the Lapua brass? I've heard a lot of people like that brass and that it lasts a long time and is very consistent. I'm working up a batch right now this morning in a minute trying out between 24-26 grains Varget with Winchester brass & primers and that 69gr MK. Do you adjust your load at all of different 77gr bullets?
Yes, I have also used Hornady 75gr BTHP, 75gr A-Max, and 80gr A-Max. They are all good bullets, but I have not used the A-Max at the 600 yard line. Only used them at 200 yards for standing practice. Lapua brass is the best you can buy. All the 75/77 BTHP variants basically shoot the same in the AR, so I shoot them with the same powder type and weight.
One last question if I may, is what type of dies do you use? I'm currently set up with Redding, and like the quality, but I'm wondering if carbide is the way to go, as it seems to work better in the pistol dies that I have used it in?
For 223 specifically, I have an RCBS FL small base die I use for once fired brass from origins unknown. I use a regular Redding FL die for my 200/300 yd ammo. Redding S-Type bushing FL die for 600 yard ammo. And I use both the Forster and Redding competition micrometer seater dies. Forster is setup for VLDs and the Redding handles all standard BTHP designs.
I too wear gloves now when handling large quantities of brass before tumbling. Once cleaned, I figure there is no need. I also wear them when cleaning my firearms.
It's a lot easier to wash hands than if you don't wear gloves. I don't know what your fingers look like after case prep (depriming, tumbling, resizing - Imperial Die Wax, tumbling, priming), but with all that going on, that grunge builds up.
If I'm reloading xm193 brass from Lake City. I fire the round, then use swagger. The next time I reload the round I won't have to you the swagger again. Correct?
Thank you.
turftamper 2 weeks ago
@turftamper Correct.
ocabj 2 weeks ago
Will it work with other caliber like 7.62x39,308,30-06?
spritrocks 1 month ago
@spritrocks Yes, they have interchangeable swaging rods for different case sizes and primer pocket sizes.
ocabj 1 month ago
@02840 The brass is once fired which is why I had to swage it. It's clean because I cleaned the brass in a vibratory cleaner before I deprime, resize, and then swage.
ocabj 2 months ago
Good video, I learned the hard way about over swaging. I have about 600 pcs of 223 brass primed and worthless due to primers falling out.
wish I had checked sooner. Live and learn I guess. rifle reloading is much more complicated than pistol . . .
rugerp89ipsc 5 months ago
I noticed that you wear gloves also. I hate finger prints on my rounds!
creekdrifter 9 months ago
what tool did you use to remove the primers off the brass? I thought my lee decaping die would break if I do so... please help...
koolmike79 1 year ago
@koolmike79 I use a Lee universal decapping die.
ocabj 1 year ago
@koolmike79
koolmike79 1 year ago
okay i have a question i am using a superswage 600 and it doesnt seem to be getting the crimp COMPLETELY out! i have to pull the lever two times and then rotate and do it twice more but the crimp is still there. any suggestions? some are 08 some are 06, 05, 07 some are 223, or 302???? should i see more brass coming out because all i really see are thin shavings
murreyhaze 1 year ago
@murreyhaze The amount of swaging is set by adjusting the locator rod. You'll have to do it by trial and error. If it's too light (primers just won't fit in the pocket without damaging them), then adjust the locator rod by loosening the nut, turning it about a quarter turn and retightening the nut. Keep repeating until the swage is good. Note that you don't want excessive swage. I like to swage it just enough so there's a good amount of primer pocket 'grip' on the primer.
ocabj 1 year ago
@ocabj thank you so much, i think ive got it down... i was looking for excessive swage because i thought that is what i needed. but it works out just fine when i stretch it...
murreyhaze 1 year ago
I love the new series of instructional videos from the Purple Man Group.
retrodog63 2 years ago
Do you buy the brass new or shoot it and reuse? Also, could you send me a load or two you like using LC brass if you could? I'm just learning reloading and shot my first reloads a week ago using min charge of varget, Hornady 55gr FMJ and Winchester case & primer. I'm wokring on 69gr Sierra too. Subscribed.
AldoSchmedack 2 years ago
I usually acquire once fired LC, which is why I bought the Dillon Super Swage 1200. Brand new, unfired, unprimed LC brass does not have crimped primer pockets (since it's not primed yet).
My competition load for High Power Rifle "Across the Course" is 77gr Sierra/Nosler/Lapua BTHP, 24.0gr RL15, LC, CCI BR4 or Remington 7-1/2 for the 200/300 yard lines. For 600 yards, I use Lapua brass. But when I first started shooting HP, I would use 80gr Sierra, 24.5gr RL15, LC, and CCI BR4.
ocabj 2 years ago
Have you tried any of the Hornady bullets out? Also, how do you like the Lapua brass? I've heard a lot of people like that brass and that it lasts a long time and is very consistent. I'm working up a batch right now this morning in a minute trying out between 24-26 grains Varget with Winchester brass & primers and that 69gr MK. Do you adjust your load at all of different 77gr bullets?
AldoSchmedack 2 years ago
Yes, I have also used Hornady 75gr BTHP, 75gr A-Max, and 80gr A-Max. They are all good bullets, but I have not used the A-Max at the 600 yard line. Only used them at 200 yards for standing practice. Lapua brass is the best you can buy. All the 75/77 BTHP variants basically shoot the same in the AR, so I shoot them with the same powder type and weight.
ocabj 2 years ago
One last question if I may, is what type of dies do you use? I'm currently set up with Redding, and like the quality, but I'm wondering if carbide is the way to go, as it seems to work better in the pistol dies that I have used it in?
AldoSchmedack 2 years ago
I use Redding, RCBS, Forster, and Hornady dies.
For 223 specifically, I have an RCBS FL small base die I use for once fired brass from origins unknown. I use a regular Redding FL die for my 200/300 yd ammo. Redding S-Type bushing FL die for 600 yard ammo. And I use both the Forster and Redding competition micrometer seater dies. Forster is setup for VLDs and the Redding handles all standard BTHP designs.
ocabj 2 years ago
what is swaging!?!
Randomprecinct 2 years ago
What is that popping when you swage? My Dillon does not do that and it is more difficult to pull the handle
70383roadrunner 2 years ago
Sweet! I was going to order this and the power trimmer. I was not sure how the swage would work, but it looks smooth. Sold.
Now, does anyone know where the hell to find small rifle primers now?
ShootBlueHelmets 2 years ago
I too wear gloves now when handling large quantities of brass before tumbling. Once cleaned, I figure there is no need. I also wear them when cleaning my firearms.
PinecrestJim 3 years ago
Gov-o-phobe?
KRN762 3 years ago
Ok what's up w/ the gloves? Germophobe or worried about lead/mercury?
WolverineAtWork 4 years ago
It's a lot easier to wash hands than if you don't wear gloves. I don't know what your fingers look like after case prep (depriming, tumbling, resizing - Imperial Die Wax, tumbling, priming), but with all that going on, that grunge builds up.
ocabj 4 years ago
i can second that one!
i wear gloves now also, it takes days for the grunge to come off if you dont.
there is also the toxic residue from primers, powder and lead to consider
gregorskiff 4 years ago 2
I like that idea!
AldoSchmedack 2 years ago
I wear gloves too. Especially when sorting untumbled range pick up.
twal1011 3 years ago