PhysX Nurien Demo 1: GTX 260, Q6600, 4GB, 1400x900

[Qtittb]

These captions are irrelevant... Really.

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[Elliottc26]

@Qtittb Amusing though :oP

[Melody0fLove]

the fps is right. the reason that the gtx have to same or worse fps than the gt is because in the gtx, nvidia put some more things in there to make the physx and graphic look better.

[Jigsaw5999999999]

hooooo very nice gi........ unreal engine 3 :D

[Naccios89]

19.839.......bad....

my nvidia 8800 GT 512 mb + amd dual 5600+

Averange FPS 38.87

[bmwm3gtr3250]

he's using FRAPS lol...If ur using FRAPS with that CPU, i think its below 15fps....

[potheadpenguin]

I know this sounds stupid but do ATI have their own equivalent of CUDA and physX? or is there any way to put the drivers on their cards?

[Elliottc26]

I haven't heard of any ATI PhysX capability; but, Aegis PhysX cards can be bought from Ebay (256mb) and plug into PCI-E slots on M/B.

[ThorVeras]

Ati have a physics engine called HAVOC, and is equivalent to PhysX, but most of the games only uses PhysX, and is Ageia card ;)

[AnnoyedDragon]

ATI's answer to CUDA is CTM.

It wasn't as successful as Nvidia's CUDA, so ATI has turned to backing OpenCL instead; which is a brand neutral version of GPU computing.

Nvidia has also supported OpenCL, so it is likely that this will start to become the standard format for GPGPU. However Microsoft is introducing the compute shader in DirectX 11, so it is likely these two standards will compete.

In regard to PhysX ATI has sided with Havok, which is implementing OpenCL for GPGPU.

[SynodCenturion]

Nope... Ati cards dont have there own physx or software like..

PhysX or Cuda nowadays is Nvidia's own OpenGL and CL compute Language.

It is one of the many things why Nvidia pwns Ati.

Also Nvidia has better driver support etc..

[cheeches]

@potheadpenguin ati got ATi Stream as an equivalent of CUDA, Stream is programmed in Brook. and in fact since direct compute is on the run the nvidia physx is going to be less and less attracktive since direct compute and open cl is open source. and the first upcoming open cl engine is havok wich is optimized for ati cards. in fact u got physic calculations without running stupid physx on nvidia cards =) hope that helps

[VicViperXxXxX]

@potheadpenguin your question needs more expenation... Yes ATI cards can run Phisic's drivers... no they dont have PhysX thats a Nvida thing ...

[TheHuNTERplus]

I think u have a problem with hardware or software . I got better fps with Q8200 + 1gb 9800gt + 4gb 1066ddr2

(as I remember I got average 40 at 1440x900)

[Morcridx1]

my eye can see a difference in 500+ fps

:)

[ZephranthesAE]

lol

[tpi2007]

Hey, Elliottc26!

I think you might havea problem with your setup. I originally installed the Nurien Demo when it came out, along with the Nvidia PhysX enalbed drivers.

I had a pretty good framerate, but when I upgraded the drivers, all of a sudden the performance of the Demo decreased sharply, behaving like yours.

The solution ? It turns out the new Nvidia driver has PhysX disabled by default. Just go to the Nvidia control panel and turn it on. Problem solved, even better framerates!

[Elliottc26]

This demo was with Fraps running which takes at least 10 FPS off the total...so the average for this would have been 29 FPS...have been of thinking to upgrading to a 1333 FSB quad core anyway...I have heard the human eye won't notice anything above 26 FPS?????

[RalenSanis]

Well you will hardly notice the difference but you will definitely see it... And the difference is more in term of gameplay than visual ( 25 FPS seems to "lag" when playing fast FPS compared to 60fps )

[grah55]

playing FPS fluidly requires 30 FPS minimum. So you're aiming at about a 40 or 50 average. If you get a 20 average then lol... Most people aim for above 60 fps on the Desktop side because they can. They find it fun to have frame outputs higher than their actual screen refresh rate as thats what you want. Equal or higher. Human eyes can't really differentiate much fluidity beyond 60 fps so thats a good point. Of course I can tell about 90/100 and 120 + Refresh rates. For fps here, I aim for 90.

[lostinseganet]

There is no phusix in the shirts?

[mda40000]

something is wrong with your card dude or your pc config because i only have a 9800 GTX+ SC a q6600 at 3.2 4 gb of 800 mhz ram and at 1680 by 1050 res and i get 35 fps average where as your gtx 260 is only like 20?

[LconJ]

I would say the 9800GTX+ is better than the GTX260, well the core speeds on the 9800 are faster anyways.

[Vetona]

wrong.

448 bit vs 256

192 Stream Processors vs 112

Yeah, please. Just stop.

[LconJ]

I was talking about the frequencies. but w/e GTX 260 is a watered down version of the 280

[Vetona]

unless you get the core 216 and overclock it. Then they are almost the same.

[mda40000]

i chose the 9800 gtx+ because im not rich and i wanted something to play games at great fps and if you have a board that can 2 way or 3 way sli them, there's no need for the new gtx 200 series...

[Vetona]

Yeah, Price wise, go with the 9800 GTX+, but 260 is alot better.

Either way, both good cards. Im currently running a 9600 GT Sonic by Palit...Waiting for newegg to ship my 260 Core 216 Superclocked

[lostinseganet]

Will a powersupply of 500 do for that card?

[warcraftriches]

well, a 500 watt should power it...Just make sure you have enough amperage on the 12+v rail.

[lostinseganet]

should..:(

[giannisG4tw]

gtx 260 ise 30-40% better than 9800gtx plus

[YoungGeekGuy]

Yes I love mine and getting 8gb ram and q6600 going to oc to 3.6ghz, can't wait.

[Elliottc26]

Without fraps running, I can achieve 30-40FPS average...depending on the settings...

[lotus90120]

OMG my computer sucks! I only averaged 9fps. lol

[kewlkill20]

holy shit thouse physics are insane!

[Elliottc26]

I know!  How good...is used on consoles (PS3) and in games like Assasins Creed...so good...