Very cool but i would love to see a full scale Thomas the Tank Engine and no not an old tank engine repainted with a face on I mean an original creation. While they are at it they should make the rest of the cast of the show too. Imagine how kids will react and the even the older generation such as myself would amazed!!!! C'mon we want Thomas and Friends!!!!!
proud to call this my hometown, Birthplace of the railways and The last steam engine produced in the U.K! Saw this beauty being built up at North Road and I thought it was too much to ask but i was proven wrong!
Just a reminder to those who think steam is yesterdays motive power.........in the event of a catastrophic solar flare knocking out electronics of all modern ( ! ) road AND rail transport systems, OR the unhappy but possible effect of an EMP caused by a 'nuke', only TWO forms of land transport would be unnaffected - steam locos and pushbikes! (if I have missed any more, apart from horses, I apologise!)
@Bmoney4206 In the case of EMP attack/effect, I think you'll find ALL electric circuits will be 'fried' regardless of how the power for the vehicle electrics is generated. Alternators/dynamos/batteries would be rendered useless Points in older auto electrics rely on a condenser to produce the necessary current - these components would also probably fail - relays almost certainly would.
American railfans need to get serious and build a brand new, MAIN LINE steam locomotive from scratch. The Leviathan is nice, I guess, but she's for excursions, not pulling mainline intercity trains. What I'd like to see built is a NYC J3a Hudson or a Hiawatha 4-4-2. If they were used on Amtrak trains, more people would pay to see them, and it would bring back something of the past. But with Americans being so out of touch with railroads and the current state of our economy, this is unlikely.
@LNERMallard As an Australian, I totaly agree. If rail bosses of America should read my reply this will blow them away:
If every American donates $1.00 with a population of about 200,000,000 people, it's no longer impossible to build a new J3a Hudson AND a Hiawatha 4-4-2 at a total cost of about $9,000,000. When you take out 3/4 of those uninterested, that's still 50,000,000 that probably are. Plus add big buisness who want to be involved, it's not impossible. C'mon America! Show some pride!
@gregbassace1 The market is too limited to support this sort of endeavor w/o heavy government subsidy. Oh, you can bet Øbungle would love to do it, but the national political will isn't there.
@LNERMallard With the lengths and weights of typical freight trains, I'd think a new 4-6+6-4 with 72" drivers more practical; and an 80"-drivered 4-8-4 for passenger runs with double-decker Pullman varnish. The NYC could have gone back to the UP's FEF-2 firebox for a Class S3a (starting with #6015), as the S1a's had premature liner failures.
I have determined why the steam locomotive is beautiful. Man is a force to be reconciled with just like a steamer. God is the reason behind the existence of the steamer just like trackage. Steam is a sign of man and God's togetherness.
Well done on this recent-build 4-6-2 Darlington! For United States operations, a locomotive along these lines needs a steam-turbine power generator and a three-rack smokebox door for headlamp, taillamp, and Mars-style track clearing lamp, in addition to a wedge pilot and a bell.
@gibbo1112 Sure can. Remember, the contact patch of the wheel & the rail is only about the size of a dime. I've been railroading for a little over ten years now & I can tell you, excessive wheel slip can & will burn a piece of rail all the way thru the ball & into the web of the rail.
To hell with today's crappy ugly trains and proposed low speed death traps. We need to bring all the old engines back online and make new ones to match them as they did here. I want to see a bigboy on the tracks. More than that I want to hear steam locomotives.
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So this is the new one they built from scratch that took many years to do, they are not easy to build anymore the skills needed are in short suppy still though I like the thundering mountain locomotives from america.
anyway its great that somone belives in the potential of steam and proves it can be done even if its expensive to do.
we have the ledgenary npk 765 where I am from, the first one to be rebuilt to run by a non profit.
they really need to bring the steamers back and use renewable fuel sources like wood or wook pellets something in that manner and also water is renewable so there we go a relief for oil companies to spend less and lower gas prices and emissions caused by diesel locos
They can be 1 or more cylinders. In most larger steam engines the piston is pushed by the steam in both directions. So 1 cyl does the work of 2. The reason a gas engine runs better with more cylinders is the speed at which it is required to run 500RPM or so min. A steam engine produces max torque from ZERO RPM up. It does not need to idle. Do a search on Doble Steam cars. They out ran and out powered gas cars of it's time and would outrun many of today.
:'( my great grand dad Tom stinson was a steam loco driver/engineer here in Australia... it takes brain cells to keep these babies in order...... R.I.P Great grand dad </3 :'(
The british steam locomotives are not looking very good.. German steam locomotives are very beautifull. AND the fastest steam locomotive ever was the german class 05 002 with 200,4 km/h. Not the mallard wich one was running downhill...
The british steam locomotives are not looking very good.. German steam locomotives are very beautifull. AND the fastest steam locomotive ever was the german class 05 002 with 200,4 km/h. Not the mallard wich one was running downhill...
The british steam locomotives are not looking very good.. German steam locomotives are very beautifull. AND the fastest steam locomotive ever was the german class 05 002 with 200,4 km/h. Not the mallard wich one was running downhill...
Just one of those things in life thats like a dream come true. An historic great achievment by all who put her together and got her out there on the main lines. I just hope her boiler stays ok after repairs. Thanks for the video.
Its really quiet in operation, too. you can see the railway embankment in newport where my dad lives, but for the cloud of steam I wouldnt have realised this was coming through.
a stunning achievement. lets hope they can resurect more extinct classes. we got plenty of good steam coal left in wales
Its really quiet in operation, too. you can see the railway embankment in newport where my dad lives, but for the cloud of steam I wouldnt have realised this was coming through.
a stunning achievement. lets hope they can resurect more extinct classes
Damn, what a beauty. I wish that our railroads had the balls to do something like this. Anyways, beautiful work of art and greetings from your fellow railfans in the USA.
@cool45010 I'd like to see any non US engine try pull as many cars up as steep grades as a US engine could without stalling. American trains are the BEST!!!!!
I love steam engines as much as the next guy, but I'm not too sure steam has much place in the modern world. :( High speed rail and stuff is becoming the popular thing now a days.
BTW, those are HUGE drivers on this locomotive. Yeesh!
where diesel is better is on inclines -it creates more hp with lower rpms. and therefore better on grades. thats reallt the only thing a diesle does better..because of new technology- in ten years(if were still around) steam could viably replace diesel..
there is as good an argument for steam as for diesel. but oil companies want the monopoly
I can understand all the little model traction engines and steam lorries that the kids ride on.....but WHY would they make a FULL SIZE steam engine? It is a darn shame to see my country take a few steps backward while others are building High Speed Rail. Is this a glamourous grab for Britian's past glory?
@kdc43 - relax, it's not as if they're going to put these back into production or service. Someone had a dream, that with a bit of determination was made into reality. Don't begrudge them that.
@JBofBrisbane Whew!!! It sounded like they were gonna make a bloody fleet of these steam locos. I'm glad they are not. I just think they should have the proper vehicles, and everything should be done properly, thank you sir.
I LOVE steam as much as any other foamer, but I'm afraid "porpoisefathom" is right. First, steam DOES run on fossil fuel and is less efficient than diesel; that is why steam in the United Sates disappeared virtually overnight. The bulk of the U.S. steam "fleet" was not even amortized out. Rather, it was speedily scrapped to make way for the inevitable progress of diesel.
@dandrbizatsbcglobaln One of the few advantages of a properly-engineered steam locomotive over today's Diesel-electric hybrids of the rails is that it will burn solid fuels, such as grain hulls, that cannot be metered properly in Diesels and gas turbines; rice hulls, as an example, are used to fuel industrial boilers in Asia and the Indian Ocean archipelagi.
i think steam is still more powerful than fossil fules. heck, all we need is an electric heat generator to heat up the steam instead of using coal. :)
@CookiesAndGuns95 they are a threat to oil..thats why common info on steam has been eradicated...last longer than cars, cost effcient etc...steam engines are still the most viable prime movers.
@ozzirt with all due respect to run steam is much less costly. Steam uses its fuel more efficiently.and the fuel costs less- nuclear reactors run on steam, powerplants, buildings are heated with it. new steam locos engines invented at the time of diesel , once fired hot- could run on a few ounces of coal and a half a glass of water over a distance of 1 mile..only reason steam died was it took time to make the steam. diesels start by a switch and go.
@porpoisefathom You are an idiot of the first order. I don't want "respect", as a retired ships Engineer (Steam and diesel), I only want facts.
Oh, and just for your information, Google "the relative costs Of nuclear power" it is almost the most expensive power you can generate. It can take 20 years and countless millions of dollars to decommission and dismantle a nuclear power plant. Not counting the building and maintenance costs.
@porpoisefathom Having been second engineer on both steam and diesel ships I can assure you that steamships are almost twice as expensive to run as diesel, not counting the fact that they are also cheaper to build.
@ozzirt go price the costs of coal--and then for diesel. btw funny--at least im not an idiot of the second or third one...rememeber to factor in how much each uses. per pound /hp. then look again at price. yes they are more expensive to build. but then again they last five times as long too! then again you dont have maintenence issues as you do with diesels which break down more than steam i.e.higher rpm more wear on parts. and new technology which makes steam blow diesel away! research it!
@ozzirt compared to coal now-- diesel is 73% more expensive than coal. rememeber to factor in how much each uses. per pound /hp/mile. then look again at price. yes they are more expensive to build. but then again they last five times as long too! then again you dont have maintenence issues either as you do with diesels which break down more than steam i.e.higher rpm more wear on parts. and now we have new technology which makes steam blow diesel away! research it! those are the facts!
@porpoisefathom there may be a price advantage in the fuel costs, but, the building, maintenance, and infrastructure costs shoot that to sh!t.
Like i said, I worked on and off with heavy steam and diesel for 43 years and I do know all of the answers, and can see through hand picked figures from a mile upwind..
What do you actually do for a living? I'll guarantee it's nothing to do with either heavy steam or diesel engineering.
@porpoisefathom It is, however, more difficult to engineer a coal-fired 4-8-4 to run sufficiently clean for the Environmental Protection Administration, given the varying sulfur content of the fuel. Enlarging the flues for platinum-dipped catalyst coils is easy; a scrubber for the smokebox will be the tricky part, as it must both separate the sulfur dioxide from the exhaust and interact sufficiently with the blastpipe for sufficient firebox draft.
@porpoisefathom - the usual run-of- the-mill steam locomotive was only about 8 percent thermally efficient (how much of the heat released by burning coal or oil was turned into usable power). Diesels were always closer to 20 percent. Sure, Andre Chapelon's designs took steam's thermal efficiency close to that of diesel, but they were the exception rather than the rule.
Yeah, grey steamers are pretty good. We have only black ones in our depot, so...
Well, we have had one green steam loco (P36-0001), but nowadays it stand idle in museum. It's very pity, because P36 was the sole our passenger steam engine - now we have only freight ones to tug excursion trains.
@dragracer3 While the cylinders are still cool, steam will condense into water inside them. If there is no place for this water to escape, the resulting water hammer when the piston approaches the top of the cylinder can break the cylinder and / or the cylinder head. Once the cylinders are sufficiently warm, those cylinder drain cocks can then be closed.
@dragracer3 That's the exhaust steam. There is always residual pressure after it has expanded in the cylinder. If the steam engine were 100% efficient all that would be left would be cool water vapor. However, it is not very efficient and there is a fair bit of wasted energy that goes up the smoke stack and out the exhaust valves in the form of hot vapor. In a similar way, internal combustion engines have waste energy go out the exhaust. It is just less obvious.
I couldnt care less about what colour she should be, this loco is here now because of the devotion and dedication of many people who cared enough about something to make it work bless em. Tornado looks beautiful, and i dont mind admitting that i was one of the know alls who kept saying it would never happen. Boy im really chuffed to be wrong sometimes. She,s gorgeous.
Marvellous to see the old beauty still running! Reminds me of my childhood in East Africa, going on 48 hour journeys on the narrow-gauge line from Dar es Salaam to Mwanza, hauled by British-made locomotives.
Take a look at my production. You can find the trains, the Finnish army, the beautiful scenery of Finland, folk music, sailing ship "Sedov", martial arts, sports, art exhibitions, animations, a lot of Super 8 films and others interesting!
@youbite1 The high pitch whine is a dynamo on top of the boiler used to generate power. If it is switched off you cannot hear it. When it is turned on it sounds like a jet starting up.
@MrBobboman There are plenty of people around the world examining steam technology including in the US. There is particular interest in the development of high speed passenger rail services.
Damn shame the bloody boiler was built in Germany though when we could've done it here for pennies 60 years ago. The media hype has made even hardened train enthusiasts believe that she is the first steam locomotive to be built in 50 years. There have been to my knowledge at least 3 built from scratch in private ownership. Infact I know of a narrow gauge engine which is only classed as a rebuild because the reversing lever is original, everything else has been replaced. Lovely engine though.
@Realfoxhawk The GWR railmotor is probably the one you'd find information on, its carriage is a rebuild (just) but the actuall power bogie (driving wheels, frames, boiler etc.....) Is all brand new and shiny. :)
There are no mainline "gas-powered locomotives"; there were some small switchers.
Steam locomotives have less than a third the thermal efficiency of diesels, not counting the huge amount of fuel burned in getting them up to pressure.
Steamers have an emissions problem, for populated areas.
@woodscritter Actually there are some fantastic advances in steam technology in the pipeline. Steam engine are on the return for high speed public rail.
@leadingedgetv Yup! I believe it was called "Works Grey" because all new engines from "the works" came out in this. It really helped to highlight the detail in engines when photos were taken to document trains before coulour images were around!
@justaworkinstiff The big garratts in Tas used to have four whistles, all a different tune. They went off at the same time. Depending on where you were standing the sound was different. Sounded incredible.
@drfate234 I think baldwin still make steam loco's, they are making one for the 762 club to run on the Lynton and Barnstaple railway at Woody Bay. 762club.com Here is a link for you.
I saw the article about this in "trains" magazine. Im glad i finally got to see the video. That is a beautiful locomotive. Its amazingly quiet. Me being an American, it could do with a louder, lower whistle. I hope it continues to run 100 years from now!
While I do admire the engineering it is a shame that all the developments in steam technology over the past 50 years could not have been incorporated in the design. Now all we get is 'another' Pacific. Pity.
Ironically Tornado rescued a number of stranded passengers following the breakdown of several Eurostar TGVs due to "fluffy" snow (Report's words, not mine)
By the way, this is not really the place for airing your homophobic xenophobia. I am sure there are plenty of more appropriate forums where you can express your particular brand of bigotry.
robertgift; there are two cyl vents for each side. the duke of gloucester is a three cylinder ,third one is under the smoke box.you will see three vents on each side of the duke.look it up on the net. fonephat.
@paullubliner OK, four. What sort of vavle gear is used on the inside cylinders? Wiould be rather tight for a full set of Stephenson or Walschaerts! Or is it linked to the outside gear in some way?
A big hard train, for big hard men!
Zebonka 2 days ago
What's this engine used for?
Interestingenough4 1 week ago
@papabugs71 Technically it's melt but..
Wandering1500 1 week ago
Very cool but i would love to see a full scale Thomas the Tank Engine and no not an old tank engine repainted with a face on I mean an original creation. While they are at it they should make the rest of the cast of the show too. Imagine how kids will react and the even the older generation such as myself would amazed!!!! C'mon we want Thomas and Friends!!!!!
Nickuk1987 2 weeks ago
I would respect the English trains more if they used wistleswith a lower picth.
TheTrainman888 3 weeks ago
Looks very elegant in that photographic grey
pretjim2011 1 month ago
what a sexy beast!
vontroixter213 1 month ago
Nice steam locomotive, also very quiet
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HughFromAlice 2 months ago
proud to call this my hometown, Birthplace of the railways and The last steam engine produced in the U.K! Saw this beauty being built up at North Road and I thought it was too much to ask but i was proven wrong!
Kirtley25 2 months ago
This is a fine engine, but it needs a real whistle.
keenedge100 3 months ago
A real quiet engine. Hardly heard the chugging of the pistons! Nice!!!
camposwilliam62 3 months ago
Just a reminder to those who think steam is yesterdays motive power.........in the event of a catastrophic solar flare knocking out electronics of all modern ( ! ) road AND rail transport systems, OR the unhappy but possible effect of an EMP caused by a 'nuke', only TWO forms of land transport would be unnaffected - steam locos and pushbikes! (if I have missed any more, apart from horses, I apologise!)
colliecandle 3 months ago
@colliecandle Cars with point style ignitions
Bmoney4206 3 months ago
@Bmoney4206 In the case of EMP attack/effect, I think you'll find ALL electric circuits will be 'fried' regardless of how the power for the vehicle electrics is generated. Alternators/dynamos/batteries would be rendered useless Points in older auto electrics rely on a condenser to produce the necessary current - these components would also probably fail - relays almost certainly would.
colliecandle 3 months ago
Elegant and beautiful !
galluer 3 months ago
American railfans need to get serious and build a brand new, MAIN LINE steam locomotive from scratch. The Leviathan is nice, I guess, but she's for excursions, not pulling mainline intercity trains. What I'd like to see built is a NYC J3a Hudson or a Hiawatha 4-4-2. If they were used on Amtrak trains, more people would pay to see them, and it would bring back something of the past. But with Americans being so out of touch with railroads and the current state of our economy, this is unlikely.
LNERMallard 3 months ago 2
@LNERMallard As an Australian, I totaly agree. If rail bosses of America should read my reply this will blow them away:
If every American donates $1.00 with a population of about 200,000,000 people, it's no longer impossible to build a new J3a Hudson AND a Hiawatha 4-4-2 at a total cost of about $9,000,000. When you take out 3/4 of those uninterested, that's still 50,000,000 that probably are. Plus add big buisness who want to be involved, it's not impossible. C'mon America! Show some pride!
gregbassace1 3 months ago 8
@gregbassace1 The market is too limited to support this sort of endeavor w/o heavy government subsidy. Oh, you can bet Øbungle would love to do it, but the national political will isn't there.
shoopdj 1 month ago
@LNERMallard With the lengths and weights of typical freight trains, I'd think a new 4-6+6-4 with 72" drivers more practical; and an 80"-drivered 4-8-4 for passenger runs with double-decker Pullman varnish. The NYC could have gone back to the UP's FEF-2 firebox for a Class S3a (starting with #6015), as the S1a's had premature liner failures.
bcschmerker 1 month ago
This shows what we CAN do when we put our minds to it. Beautiful engine!!
droptuneblowout 4 months ago
Gorgeous...those three driving wheels. Like watching old piston-powered propeller-driven airliners.......
ROCKSTARCRANE 4 months ago
funny to see a website name on the side of it
marrrrrrks 4 months ago
@marrrrrrks totally agree, ok in this day and age...and it's a locomotive form "our" era etc etc but the wesite shouldnt be there on the side.
ZerokillerOppel1 4 months ago
@ZerokillerOppel1
I didn't mean it shouldn't be there, I just meant a website name isn't something you regularly see on the side of a steam locomotive.
marrrrrrks 4 months ago
I have determined why the steam locomotive is beautiful. Man is a force to be reconciled with just like a steamer. God is the reason behind the existence of the steamer just like trackage. Steam is a sign of man and God's togetherness.
Beer1584 4 months ago
platform 9 3/4
catman88fan 5 months ago
Well done on this recent-build 4-6-2 Darlington! For United States operations, a locomotive along these lines needs a steam-turbine power generator and a three-rack smokebox door for headlamp, taillamp, and Mars-style track clearing lamp, in addition to a wedge pilot and a bell.
bcschmerker 5 months ago
What a beauty!!
CSXer 6 months ago
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catpenis27 6 months ago
cant you get rediculous wheelspin with these trains?
gibbo1112 6 months ago
@gibbo1112 Sure can. Remember, the contact patch of the wheel & the rail is only about the size of a dime. I've been railroading for a little over ten years now & I can tell you, excessive wheel slip can & will burn a piece of rail all the way thru the ball & into the web of the rail.
papabugs71 6 months ago
@papabugs71 do a burnout
gibbo1112 6 months ago
@gibbo1112 lol! I've seen it done man.
papabugs71 6 months ago
@papabugs71 shouldha filmed it
gibbo1112 6 months ago
@gibbo1112 The whole point of a good driver is getting the damn thing to move without spinning at all.
flyingpigstuff 6 months ago
Even in primer, a beautiful steam locomotive.
farmerphil 6 months ago
I was born and raised in a rail road town, now more than ever i miss the big stam locomotives that occasinaly came through way to go Britania
Opalhearts02 6 months ago
To hell with today's crappy ugly trains and proposed low speed death traps. We need to bring all the old engines back online and make new ones to match them as they did here. I want to see a bigboy on the tracks. More than that I want to hear steam locomotives.
45Machine 6 months ago
I wanna see this thing drift
aqswefhtgy 7 months ago
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Reagerw 7 months ago
So this is the new one they built from scratch that took many years to do, they are not easy to build anymore the skills needed are in short suppy still though I like the thundering mountain locomotives from america.
anyway its great that somone belives in the potential of steam and proves it can be done even if its expensive to do.
we have the ledgenary npk 765 where I am from, the first one to be rebuilt to run by a non profit.
manga12 8 months ago
they really need to bring the steamers back and use renewable fuel sources like wood or wook pellets something in that manner and also water is renewable so there we go a relief for oil companies to spend less and lower gas prices and emissions caused by diesel locos
stumpy166521 8 months ago
so steam engines are normally 2 cylinders? and then there are V6/8/10/12/.. cars!!
terryyouth 8 months ago
@terryyouth
They can be 1 or more cylinders. In most larger steam engines the piston is pushed by the steam in both directions. So 1 cyl does the work of 2. The reason a gas engine runs better with more cylinders is the speed at which it is required to run 500RPM or so min. A steam engine produces max torque from ZERO RPM up. It does not need to idle. Do a search on Doble Steam cars. They out ran and out powered gas cars of it's time and would outrun many of today.
kens97sto171 6 months ago
:'( my great grand dad Tom stinson was a steam loco driver/engineer here in Australia... it takes brain cells to keep these babies in order...... R.I.P Great grand dad </3 :'(
DjTommyKx 8 months ago
I think they should make a set of modern locomotives which are in the shape of a steam loco. I think that would be pretty cool.
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The british steam locomotives are not looking very good.. German steam locomotives are very beautifull. AND the fastest steam locomotive ever was the german class 05 002 with 200,4 km/h. Not the mallard wich one was running downhill...
og2strich 9 months ago
The british steam locomotives are not looking very good.. German steam locomotives are very beautifull. AND the fastest steam locomotive ever was the german class 05 002 with 200,4 km/h. Not the mallard wich one was running downhill...
og2strich 9 months ago
@og2strich sorry we beat you there Mallard is still the fastest..
The French TGV went downhill too are you going to complain about that ?
: )
TheBritishLegions 7 months ago
The british steam locomotives are not looking very good.. German steam locomotives are very beautifull. AND the fastest steam locomotive ever was the german class 05 002 with 200,4 km/h. Not the mallard wich one was running downhill...
og2strich 9 months ago
Just one of those things in life thats like a dream come true. An historic great achievment by all who put her together and got her out there on the main lines. I just hope her boiler stays ok after repairs. Thanks for the video.
JohnMC894 9 months ago
Its really quiet in operation, too. you can see the railway embankment in newport where my dad lives, but for the cloud of steam I wouldnt have realised this was coming through.
a stunning achievement. lets hope they can resurect more extinct classes. we got plenty of good steam coal left in wales
mrspivvy 11 months ago
Its really quiet in operation, too. you can see the railway embankment in newport where my dad lives, but for the cloud of steam I wouldnt have realised this was coming through.
a stunning achievement. lets hope they can resurect more extinct classes
mrspivvy 11 months ago
Beautiful!!! I wish that we could build a new Golden State locomotive like 4449 in California!
btomimatsucunard 11 months ago
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maniacpro 11 months ago
MAjestic steam engine!
predatorfe 1 year ago
Damn, what a beauty. I wish that our railroads had the balls to do something like this. Anyways, beautiful work of art and greetings from your fellow railfans in the USA.
cool45010 1 year ago 21
@cool45010 I'd like to see any non US engine try pull as many cars up as steep grades as a US engine could without stalling. American trains are the BEST!!!!!
bradstrains 2 days ago
This is a real tribute the British railways and shows just how powerful the railway preservation movement has been!
WhistlingTractor 1 year ago
This is a real tribute the British railways and shows just how powerful the railway preservation movement has been!
WhistlingTractor 1 year ago
That's beautiful. :)
strangersound 1 year ago
so quiet and majestic
atsf3780 1 year ago
Great Video, 5 Stars!
60103Henry 1 year ago
i love the enthusiasts who maintain run these machine's.
look at what we can still see in this country.... countless old cars and motorbikes both for the road and the track.
other old steam and diesel loco's. traction engine's. steam truck's.
a restored vulcan bomber. and now this. built from scratch too!
richkingb01 1 year ago
It has no cowcatcher!!!
icars98 1 year ago
@icars98 - not many British locomotives did.
JBofBrisbane 1 year ago
I love steam engines as much as the next guy, but I'm not too sure steam has much place in the modern world. :( High speed rail and stuff is becoming the popular thing now a days.
BTW, those are HUGE drivers on this locomotive. Yeesh!
TCOPatrick 1 year ago
where diesel is better is on inclines -it creates more hp with lower rpms. and therefore better on grades. thats reallt the only thing a diesle does better..because of new technology- in ten years(if were still around) steam could viably replace diesel..
there is as good an argument for steam as for diesel. but oil companies want the monopoly
porpoisefathom 1 year ago
I can understand all the little model traction engines and steam lorries that the kids ride on.....but WHY would they make a FULL SIZE steam engine? It is a darn shame to see my country take a few steps backward while others are building High Speed Rail. Is this a glamourous grab for Britian's past glory?
kdc43 1 year ago
@kdc43 - relax, it's not as if they're going to put these back into production or service. Someone had a dream, that with a bit of determination was made into reality. Don't begrudge them that.
JBofBrisbane 1 year ago
@JBofBrisbane Whew!!! It sounded like they were gonna make a bloody fleet of these steam locos. I'm glad they are not. I just think they should have the proper vehicles, and everything should be done properly, thank you sir.
kdc43 1 year ago
@ThomasandFriends1100 You will get no arguments about that from me,....
I'm just surprised that the makers could get all of the necessary craftsmen together.
ozzirt 1 year ago
I LOVE steam as much as any other foamer, but I'm afraid "porpoisefathom" is right. First, steam DOES run on fossil fuel and is less efficient than diesel; that is why steam in the United Sates disappeared virtually overnight. The bulk of the U.S. steam "fleet" was not even amortized out. Rather, it was speedily scrapped to make way for the inevitable progress of diesel.
dandrbizatsbcglobaln 1 year ago
@dandrbizatsbcglobaln One of the few advantages of a properly-engineered steam locomotive over today's Diesel-electric hybrids of the rails is that it will burn solid fuels, such as grain hulls, that cannot be metered properly in Diesels and gas turbines; rice hulls, as an example, are used to fuel industrial boilers in Asia and the Indian Ocean archipelagi.
bcschmerker 5 months ago
i think steam is still more powerful than fossil fules. heck, all we need is an electric heat generator to heat up the steam instead of using coal. :)
ByouDanseiKamiEnSai 1 year ago
her body should be black..
TheDekstro 1 year ago
Steam trains SHOULD be back in service like they did. They're too much of a revolution in transportation to leave alone! :)
CookiesAndGuns95 1 year ago 15
@CookiesAndGuns95 they are a threat to oil..thats why common info on steam has been eradicated...last longer than cars, cost effcient etc...steam engines are still the most viable prime movers.
porpoisefathom 1 year ago
@porpoisefathom Please read some facts and not the wishful dreamings of some amateur rail enthusiast.
Steam is great, but it can't blow wind up the bum of a Diesel for efficiency or over all costs. Sad but true.
ozzirt 1 year ago
@ozzirt with all due respect to run steam is much less costly. Steam uses its fuel more efficiently.and the fuel costs less- nuclear reactors run on steam, powerplants, buildings are heated with it. new steam locos engines invented at the time of diesel , once fired hot- could run on a few ounces of coal and a half a glass of water over a distance of 1 mile..only reason steam died was it took time to make the steam. diesels start by a switch and go.
porpoisefathom 1 year ago
@porpoisefathom You are an idiot of the first order. I don't want "respect", as a retired ships Engineer (Steam and diesel), I only want facts.
Oh, and just for your information, Google "the relative costs Of nuclear power" it is almost the most expensive power you can generate. It can take 20 years and countless millions of dollars to decommission and dismantle a nuclear power plant. Not counting the building and maintenance costs.
ozzirt 1 year ago
@porpoisefathom Having been second engineer on both steam and diesel ships I can assure you that steamships are almost twice as expensive to run as diesel, not counting the fact that they are also cheaper to build.
ozzirt 1 year ago
@ozzirt go price the costs of coal--and then for diesel. btw funny--at least im not an idiot of the second or third one...rememeber to factor in how much each uses. per pound /hp. then look again at price. yes they are more expensive to build. but then again they last five times as long too! then again you dont have maintenence issues as you do with diesels which break down more than steam i.e.higher rpm more wear on parts. and new technology which makes steam blow diesel away! research it!
porpoisefathom 1 year ago
@ozzirt compared to coal now-- diesel is 73% more expensive than coal. rememeber to factor in how much each uses. per pound /hp/mile. then look again at price. yes they are more expensive to build. but then again they last five times as long too! then again you dont have maintenence issues either as you do with diesels which break down more than steam i.e.higher rpm more wear on parts. and now we have new technology which makes steam blow diesel away! research it! those are the facts!
porpoisefathom 1 year ago
@porpoisefathom there may be a price advantage in the fuel costs, but, the building, maintenance, and infrastructure costs shoot that to sh!t.
Like i said, I worked on and off with heavy steam and diesel for 43 years and I do know all of the answers, and can see through hand picked figures from a mile upwind..
What do you actually do for a living? I'll guarantee it's nothing to do with either heavy steam or diesel engineering.
ozzirt 1 year ago
@porpoisefathom It is, however, more difficult to engineer a coal-fired 4-8-4 to run sufficiently clean for the Environmental Protection Administration, given the varying sulfur content of the fuel. Enlarging the flues for platinum-dipped catalyst coils is easy; a scrubber for the smokebox will be the tricky part, as it must both separate the sulfur dioxide from the exhaust and interact sufficiently with the blastpipe for sufficient firebox draft.
bcschmerker 5 months ago
@bcschmerker I understand what your saying --technical challenges--but lets suppose oil supply ended in 2012- what alternatives are there?-
1.electric- but no batts can hold charges long enough to be effective.
2. biofuels-. -but here again-more corn means more cutting trees more sulphates into the environment-and the cycle continues.
3.solar/wind- same problems as electric.vehicles..
4. there is only one viable repacement-
steam!
porpoisefathom 5 months ago
@porpoisefathom - the usual run-of- the-mill steam locomotive was only about 8 percent thermally efficient (how much of the heat released by burning coal or oil was turned into usable power). Diesels were always closer to 20 percent. Sure, Andre Chapelon's designs took steam's thermal efficiency close to that of diesel, but they were the exception rather than the rule.
JBofBrisbane 1 year ago
@CookiesAndGuns95 Very, very true!
rgerhardtembarq 6 months ago
Yeah, grey steamers are pretty good. We have only black ones in our depot, so...
Well, we have had one green steam loco (P36-0001), but nowadays it stand idle in museum. It's very pity, because P36 was the sole our passenger steam engine - now we have only freight ones to tug excursion trains.
akaTrainzPotter 1 year ago
As much as I love the old steam engines, it's cool seeing one made with modern materials too.
KenMacMillan 1 year ago
wow its so quiet LoL i never thought they were alll shhhh i always thought they where loud
MagnumTheGamer 1 year ago
Just curious, why do steam locos bleed steam out of the cylinders when they are taking off?
dragracer3 1 year ago
@dragracer3 While the cylinders are still cool, steam will condense into water inside them. If there is no place for this water to escape, the resulting water hammer when the piston approaches the top of the cylinder can break the cylinder and / or the cylinder head. Once the cylinders are sufficiently warm, those cylinder drain cocks can then be closed.
realvanman 1 year ago
@dragracer3 That's the exhaust steam. There is always residual pressure after it has expanded in the cylinder. If the steam engine were 100% efficient all that would be left would be cool water vapor. However, it is not very efficient and there is a fair bit of wasted energy that goes up the smoke stack and out the exhaust valves in the form of hot vapor. In a similar way, internal combustion engines have waste energy go out the exhaust. It is just less obvious.
droceretik 1 year ago
SEXY!!!!
roudy1689 1 year ago
Hmm, interesting to see the engine so deeply cut off at low speed.
Polybun 1 year ago
Why the hell can't we build something like that in the US?
Imagine a brand new, 4-8-4 Northern, charging down the line.
Beautiful, awesome job.
AntiFederalist1 1 year ago
I couldnt care less about what colour she should be, this loco is here now because of the devotion and dedication of many people who cared enough about something to make it work bless em. Tornado looks beautiful, and i dont mind admitting that i was one of the know alls who kept saying it would never happen. Boy im really chuffed to be wrong sometimes. She,s gorgeous.
falconoilcompany 1 year ago
I'M AMAZED A HOW QUIET THE ENGINE IS....WELL DONE!!!!
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL MACHINE..
dennyk1024 1 year ago
Steam engine is wonderful. Zoltan Bebto from Hungary,Europe.
bebtozoltan55 1 year ago
Marvellous to see the old beauty still running! Reminds me of my childhood in East Africa, going on 48 hour journeys on the narrow-gauge line from Dar es Salaam to Mwanza, hauled by British-made locomotives.
speakswahilidammit 1 year ago
oops! had the bloody thing in reverse...
davidrodgersNJ 1 year ago
just wondering.. but why isnt it chugging? or the smoke puffing? i noticed that during the video...
BIILYBOB999 1 year ago
Unbelievably beautiful!
clusterfak 1 year ago
Is this a three cylinder locomotive like so many other British steamers?
boazrg 1 year ago
a new "old" locomotive
julienjjj 1 year ago
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Movielunatic 1 year ago
why doesnt it have that high pitch whine while idleing like other locos?
youbite1 1 year ago
@youbite1 The high pitch whine is a dynamo on top of the boiler used to generate power. If it is switched off you cannot hear it. When it is turned on it sounds like a jet starting up.
Realfoxhawk 1 year ago
why can't the u.s. still design steam locomotives :(
MrBobboman 1 year ago
@MrBobboman There are plenty of people around the world examining steam technology including in the US. There is particular interest in the development of high speed passenger rail services.
Realfoxhawk 1 year ago
WHOA that engine is SPOTLESS. No rod clanks either.
PRL2204 1 year ago
Damn shame the bloody boiler was built in Germany though when we could've done it here for pennies 60 years ago. The media hype has made even hardened train enthusiasts believe that she is the first steam locomotive to be built in 50 years. There have been to my knowledge at least 3 built from scratch in private ownership. Infact I know of a narrow gauge engine which is only classed as a rebuild because the reversing lever is original, everything else has been replaced. Lovely engine though.
kez259 1 year ago
@kez259 Can you post the names of them? I would be interested in looking them up. Cheers
Realfoxhawk 1 year ago
@Realfoxhawk The GWR railmotor is probably the one you'd find information on, its carriage is a rebuild (just) but the actuall power bogie (driving wheels, frames, boiler etc.....) Is all brand new and shiny. :)
kez259 1 year ago
Great steam locomotive, look an sounds great!
Bidone1967 1 year ago 2
Great to see that these can still be Built.
Dodger 1 year ago
nice indeed good video thanks
MorrisManDanceMan 1 year ago
i wish to see more steam engines. they are so cool. i remember as a child one came by with people on it. the only time i saw one in real life.
danrichards23 1 year ago
Beautiful. We have to do something like this over in the US
cool45010 1 year ago
What a beautiful piece of workmanship. It has a real presence.. Thanks for posting.
Kim521970 1 year ago
due to fuel cost EVERYWHERE i think we should use steam locomotives instead of gas powered locomotives
GOCHICOAPRODUCTIONS 1 year ago
@GOCHICOAPRODUCTIONS
There are no mainline "gas-powered locomotives"; there were some small switchers.
Steam locomotives have less than a third the thermal efficiency of diesels, not counting the huge amount of fuel burned in getting them up to pressure.
Steamers have an emissions problem, for populated areas.
For starters.
Electrics and diesel-electrics are huge upgrades.
woodscritter 1 year ago
@woodscritter Actually there are some fantastic advances in steam technology in the pipeline. Steam engine are on the return for high speed public rail.
Realfoxhawk 1 year ago
beautiful loco but not in this colour to be honest
IrishRail123 1 year ago 18
@IrishRail123
I know what you mean and now it is in it the green LNER livery that was always intended. That gray was a primer base coat. Thanks for viewing
leadingedgetv 1 year ago 11
@leadingedgetv I like the WW2 black, but that's just me. I wonder if Hornby will make a Live Steam version of this beauty next.
kabukikitsune 1 year ago
@kabukikitsune Boy I would love to see that happen!! I'm a big fan of Hornby Live Steam.
clusterfak 1 year ago
@leadingedgetv Great vid mate. But i prefer it this colour as it makes it stand out from its old classmates
darkelfproductions 1 year ago
@leadingedgetv its not in lner green its in br lined apple green
matanuialive2010 1 year ago
@leadingedgetv even though its not the green color its supposta be i find that the grey and black seems to be a verry style-ish look
rexman92 1 year ago
@leadingedgetv Yup! I believe it was called "Works Grey" because all new engines from "the works" came out in this. It really helped to highlight the detail in engines when photos were taken to document trains before coulour images were around!
TheRyanCarMan 9 months ago
@IrishRail123 true!
tom201090 1 year ago
trains are like women, take a while to get warmed up but once theyre going you cant stop it
who8mahbacon 1 year ago
I saw Tornado about a year or two ago at the National Railway Museum, in it`s LNER livery.
MrDanielNewton 1 year ago
What a beautiful locomotive!
sandman19681012 1 year ago
i'm a american, but i gotta say, U.K trains are better then U.S trains.
thomasVSstewie 1 year ago
Very cool,who paid to have it built?
916fanatic1 1 year ago
@916fanatic1 I did....among very many others!
whigwood 1 year ago
They should replace the tooter with a whistle.
JohnRinNoHo 1 year ago
@JohnRinNoHo That's the authentic sound of an LNER whistle. However, Tornado now has an alternative "chime" whistle from an A4 locomotive.
whigwood 1 year ago
good looking locomotive , but a puny sounding whistle for such a big beast. not like the 4-6-6-4 challengers haunting sound.
justaworkinstiff 1 year ago
@justaworkinstiff The big garratts in Tas used to have four whistles, all a different tune. They went off at the same time. Depending on where you were standing the sound was different. Sounded incredible.
Realfoxhawk 1 year ago
Actually these trains were universally hated through Aus except Tas where they were a great success.
Realfoxhawk 1 year ago
bineees78xx Thanks, I didn't know about this, awesome news.
drfate234 1 year ago
Now why the hell can't we build a new steam engine ? have we lost this type of engineering feat in America ? great video BTW, thanks.
drfate234 1 year ago
@drfate234 I think baldwin still make steam loco's, they are making one for the 762 club to run on the Lynton and Barnstaple railway at Woody Bay. 762club.com Here is a link for you.
bineees78xx 1 year ago
I saw the article about this in "trains" magazine. Im glad i finally got to see the video. That is a beautiful locomotive. Its amazingly quiet. Me being an American, it could do with a louder, lower whistle. I hope it continues to run 100 years from now!
Blupearl2003 1 year ago
What a truly magnificent sight. Perfection in motion
MrKnight0011 1 year ago
im geussing by the three condansation valve at the botom of the piston housings there is three cylanders one in the center ant the normal 2 out side
biggdaddy2001 1 year ago
a fine steam-locomotive
giulene 1 year ago
That looks like the locomotive that was on Top Gear
jdoggybizzle 1 year ago
@jdoggybizzle it is the one
34002salisbury 1 year ago
@jdoggybizzle
Yep, that's the one they used for Top gear, though it was painted in its final green colour then instead of this grey primer...
daedalus2097 1 year ago
While I do admire the engineering it is a shame that all the developments in steam technology over the past 50 years could not have been incorporated in the design. Now all we get is 'another' Pacific. Pity.
pugwashsecond 1 year ago
@pugwashsecond I think there were some developments added from what I read a bit earlier.
Realfoxhawk 1 year ago
Looks like a 4-6-2
PistolPete2 1 year ago 2
@PistolPete2 it is
crazyracer12 1 year ago
Now if we could just get the 5AT built...we'd be set.
darkyoda 1 year ago
Wonderful work of art. Tornado'll get those electrumps and dies-yucks.
BhanuHabbo 1 year ago
Ironically Tornado rescued a number of stranded passengers following the breakdown of several Eurostar TGVs due to "fluffy" snow (Report's words, not mine)
By the way, this is not really the place for airing your homophobic xenophobia. I am sure there are plenty of more appropriate forums where you can express your particular brand of bigotry.
leadingedgetv 1 year ago
@leadingedgetv
The first steam engine to be built in Britain......do you mean a brand new steam engine.....?
johnsenkenn 1 year ago
@johnsenkenn yea it apparently is the first one built brand new, not just a refurbed relic.
snoopyloopy 1 year ago
Gosh !! What a beauty !
Thank god, she's already built before the world economic crisis could have had an effect on thids project !!!
palomino1973 1 year ago
Accelerates fast :D
Ezixax 1 year ago
lucky britts! i love how the cylinder cocks are pointed tho!
CGiordano464 2 years ago
what a beauty
ch00bz0rzz 2 years ago 2
Three cylinders? (Indicated by cylinder vents)
When built?
Why?
Why not provide information in (more info)?
robertgift 2 years ago
robertgift; there are two cyl vents for each side. the duke of gloucester is a three cylinder ,third one is under the smoke box.you will see three vents on each side of the duke.look it up on the net. fonephat.
fonephat 2 years ago
I wonder why the cylinder vents are facing forward?
spikejones5 2 years ago 2
Hi, British built? Can any person tell me how much of this train was built in Germany and abroad?
andyZjohnZ 2 years ago
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paullubliner 2 years ago
the boiler,base and wheels were bultin East Germany because it was the closest place that had the facilities to makes steam engine parts
scottishlowoflow 2 years ago
Beautiful machine. Judging by the cylinder cock exhaust, she appears to have three cylinders,,,am I rite?
freereeder 2 years ago
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paullubliner 2 years ago
@paullubliner OK, four. What sort of vavle gear is used on the inside cylinders? Wiould be rather tight for a full set of Stephenson or Walschaerts! Or is it linked to the outside gear in some way?
freereeder 2 years ago