I think alot of ju jitsu and aikikitsu has infiltrated back into aikido. Ueshiba was very specific that i. you shouldn't be where the target of the attack is (mainly due to other attackers) ii. techniques are done with the feet not the hands (i.e. it is the subtle movement of body positioning through shifting your body that allows the technique to work).
i tried aikido and for 3,5 yrs i really liked it,. but my perspective has changed when i met systema guys. they are playing it at the moment they are attacked. not thinking oh this leg goes here and hand there..-no ,. just instinctive techniques with maximum effectiveness. of course basic daito ryu aikijutsu is everpresent in all defensive techniques in any m.a. but instead of endless training the same things "if then else" type of locks throws etc. you try not to think too much and DO.
@ookami3380 The only people thinking "this leg goes here and this one there" are unexperienced people. I learn Aikido in a structured way, but I know that perfection is the ability to use it instinctively.
@Junjokar i know!!! and you are absolutely right! i hold no grudge to the masters or the virtue by it self im just saying ==try defining your art to special needs and those are street alike. i dont want to hold degrees and belts and one day some newcomer asshole in brazillian jujutsu gets drunk and kicks my ass. trust me i saw people like that----they do not get inside of budo. they dont even care of martial art spirit. they train like classic boxer or wrestler.--no do no spirit no nothing,,.
Could you please do a video of the turning/spinning variant of Irime Nage? I have no trouble executing the variant shown, but I just can't seem to make the turning variant work, no matter how many different tips and points of feedback my own sensei gives me. I'd be grateful for a different perspective. Arigato, Sensei
im not quite convinced if aikido stuff really works against a opponent who knows how to fight but it has somehow a very appeasing and calmative effect on me to watch it.
LifeWatcher000: Tegatana means "hand-sword" but a sword can also shomenuchi, yokomenuchi, shomenate, mune tsuki, etc.. In this circumstance, the technique would be mostly the same, but with adjusted tai sabaki to account for the different space in an attack with a katana or bokken. Mune tsuki means that the attack is a thrust (from the midsection).
yo fumanchudude my sensei taught me that when you train with another aikido person,you are practising and building your muscle memory up,so later when you spar or fight,you will be flexible at it^^
I have my test for 6th kyu in 2 weeks. I love this technique, clearly one of my favorite. U guys should see Steve Seagal do this, he knocks heads right off there shoulders!
if you have trained aikido you would know it dosnt matter...either or you can still do this technique. It annoys me people that comment on somthing they know nothing about.
People dont punch like your uke does. Your uke steps in with his right foot to deliver his right cross. Real strikers do not do that. This is not realistic at all.
that uke happens to be from a karate background, so his punch is classic karate. dont think it needs to be a pretty punch for this to work. where the head goes the body follows
in this video the uke while striking turns his hips...will this tech be effective when a person tries to strike without turning his hips, like a boxer?
It would be effective against a boxer.. boxers do generally turn their hips, but not so much for a jab. But a straight punch, definitely.. and it would certainly still be effective, because the parry of the punch and the arm redirection gets uke to break his center. Very much so.
I wonder if you could add an atemi before going while going to the neck with your arm. I think it would be more effective and maybe even faster (and easier to applicate the technique thanks to the effect of the atemi)
Frozeal, yes, an atemi is always a good idea...if it does not interrupt the natural flow of the technique. I'm a big fan of atemi (obviously), but hitting someone for the sake of violence is pointless. I use atemi to gain control of the situation. Thanks a ton for watching and better yet...thinking!!!
my point is precisely that, expertvillage videos are poor and dumbed down to the point of stupidity. No mention of repetitions, of details of the technique, of time needed to make it effective in a real fight, of wariming up, of aikido philosophy and ideas, essential for making the moves effective... no mention that you can't learn martial arts by watching videos and you know that. there are better options, less pretentious. go see some videos by the doshus, or Nishio Sansei!
How contradictive. If you can learn nothing by videos, as you first say, why would you recommend watching Nishio Sensei's videos? At least stick to what you first said; and ask people to learn japanese and go learn at a dojo in Japan or something like that...
no, you CAN learn from videos, but watching and practicing just to videos won't make you a decent practicioner of any martial art. I must admit that expert village videos are improving, but there are still better options, specially when it comes to learning martial arts. i recommend submissions 101.
Whateva1983, I'm the author of these vids, but I'm still going to agree with you. It is foolish to think you can actually learn aikido from simply watching a 2 minute video clip. BUT...it a person likes what he sees (which obviously you don't), he can use this to further his current studies. Maybe just a new perspective will open his/her eyes to something new? I always say in order to fill the cup, you have to empty it first. And I agree...please choose Nishio Sensei over me!!!
I actually been thinking and I now think that you are also probably too... constrained by the format of these videos. I guess your work after all is nice. (What do I really know about aikido?) I still don'0t have a favorable opinion of expertvillage. but thank you, good day.
I've seen this done a lot, but when I try I'm running into more resistance than I'd like. Anyone mind sharing exactly where those arms are making contact? Obviously it's not just a clothesline to the throat. The best I've seen has been sort of a twisting motion, rotating their shoulder over their center, while the other hand pops 'em in the hip under their center... causing them to collapse. Has anyone seen a real good detailed explanation?
actually the position of the arm is not the biggest thing. what you want to remember is to go up to get uke's head back, (control the head control the body) then down almost straight towards the floor, and always move from your center, this is a very tricky technique but will be your best friend when you get it down
I see. No one's told me to push straight down. I've always gone down and a bit back to keep them more off balanced. What do you do with your other hand? I've been told that hand pushes under their center so you're not really "pushing them down" but rotating them around their own center. Unfortunately my work schedule right now doesn't allow me to attend class, and it's hard to find a good Uke.
You can do that with the other hand, yes. I don't like it but I think Im the exception because most people I know use their other hand like that. Just see what works best for you
Dasgregorian, if you don't mind, I'd like to offer some advice. Shift your mindset slightly. Instead of thinking "push them down", think "cut them down." I know, it's a small thing. But God is in the details. I ALWAYS cut their hips out with my other hand. There is a pressure point on the back right over the kidney: GB-25. You can look it up if you want. This is the target and will cut their center out from beneath them. Together with cutting down, you'll have this technique!
I think alot of ju jitsu and aikikitsu has infiltrated back into aikido. Ueshiba was very specific that i. you shouldn't be where the target of the attack is (mainly due to other attackers) ii. techniques are done with the feet not the hands (i.e. it is the subtle movement of body positioning through shifting your body that allows the technique to work).
underdonkey5 1 month ago
Timing is everything eh, hence when a REAL punch comes you won't react in time. This is fairyland stuff. Keep it real, SPAR
dobberdoss 2 months ago
hmmm, really good stuff! Some of the movements/techniques here are quite similar to Wing Chun.
Gunslinger800 5 months ago
i tried aikido and for 3,5 yrs i really liked it,. but my perspective has changed when i met systema guys. they are playing it at the moment they are attacked. not thinking oh this leg goes here and hand there..-no ,. just instinctive techniques with maximum effectiveness. of course basic daito ryu aikijutsu is everpresent in all defensive techniques in any m.a. but instead of endless training the same things "if then else" type of locks throws etc. you try not to think too much and DO.
ookami3380 8 months ago
@ookami3380 The only people thinking "this leg goes here and this one there" are unexperienced people. I learn Aikido in a structured way, but I know that perfection is the ability to use it instinctively.
Junjokar 8 months ago
@Junjokar i know!!! and you are absolutely right! i hold no grudge to the masters or the virtue by it self im just saying ==try defining your art to special needs and those are street alike. i dont want to hold degrees and belts and one day some newcomer asshole in brazillian jujutsu gets drunk and kicks my ass. trust me i saw people like that----they do not get inside of budo. they dont even care of martial art spirit. they train like classic boxer or wrestler.--no do no spirit no nothing,,.
ookami3380 8 months ago
what if you cannot see the punch coming?
yanyanmustdie 8 months ago
@yanyanmustdie if you cant see a punch/stab/grab/takedown/gozilla/whatever coming, it's over anyway
breedingpitmetal 8 months ago
Could you please do a video of the turning/spinning variant of Irime Nage? I have no trouble executing the variant shown, but I just can't seem to make the turning variant work, no matter how many different tips and points of feedback my own sensei gives me. I'd be grateful for a different perspective. Arigato, Sensei
trevchar 9 months ago
You could go into a choke from there as well very nice.
Sirus362 1 year ago
im not quite convinced if aikido stuff really works against a opponent who knows how to fight but it has somehow a very appeasing and calmative effect on me to watch it.
doeiffeo 1 year ago
LifeWatcher000: Tegatana means "hand-sword" but a sword can also shomenuchi, yokomenuchi, shomenate, mune tsuki, etc.. In this circumstance, the technique would be mostly the same, but with adjusted tai sabaki to account for the different space in an attack with a katana or bokken. Mune tsuki means that the attack is a thrust (from the midsection).
aphor 1 year ago
great video!!!! you rock!!!!!!
trevormcmanis 1 year ago
yo fumanchudude my sensei taught me that when you train with another aikido person,you are practising and building your muscle memory up,so later when you spar or fight,you will be flexible at it^^
IriminagePro 1 year ago
Aikido is The best man...^^
IriminagePro 1 year ago
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why woundnt this be called tegatana iriminage? because of how u tegatana the initial strike?
LifeWatcher000 1 year ago
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why woundnt this be called tegatana iriminage? because of how u tegatana the initial strike?
LifeWatcher000 1 year ago
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why wouldn't this be Tegatana iriminage? because you tegatana the initial strike? Just curious?
LifeWatcher000 1 year ago
why wouldnt this be Tegatana iriminage? becuz you tegatana the intial strike? Just curouis?
LifeWatcher000 1 year ago
why wouldnt this be tegatana iriminage? sensei? if u tegatana the hand?
LifeWatcher000 1 year ago
why wouldnt this be tegatana iriminage? sensei?
LifeWatcher000 1 year ago
@fumanchu. It doesnt matter if he steps in with his foot, the technique can still be done either way!!!
MrJudo15 1 year ago
I have my test for 6th kyu in 2 weeks. I love this technique, clearly one of my favorite. U guys should see Steve Seagal do this, he knocks heads right off there shoulders!
MrJudo15 1 year ago
hahahahah plus im not camping here
kijokentaijitsu 1 year ago
i agree with lamarzocco,but theres nothing anyone can do about it
kijokentaijitsu 1 year ago
@ 1.46 he goes to far back with his hand also
Difsco 2 years ago
fumanchudude
if you have trained aikido you would know it dosnt matter...either or you can still do this technique. It annoys me people that comment on somthing they know nothing about.
lamarzocco87 2 years ago 10
Its very hard to learn with videos, but its a very important tool for those who pratice in a dojo.
chrisl9 2 years ago 2
Absolutely brillaint:D
1sweetstruggle 2 years ago
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232323C 2 years ago
People dont punch like your uke does. Your uke steps in with his right foot to deliver his right cross. Real strikers do not do that. This is not realistic at all.
fumanchudude 2 years ago
that uke happens to be from a karate background, so his punch is classic karate. dont think it needs to be a pretty punch for this to work. where the head goes the body follows
longie350 2 years ago
Thats like one of the coolest things I've ever seen! So easy and practical!
Fartblaster123 2 years ago
you are a wonderful sense!! your videos are really the best one i ever seen on aikedo , keep adding more please
thequeen444 2 years ago 21
in this video the uke while striking turns his hips...will this tech be effective when a person tries to strike without turning his hips, like a boxer?
Thanks! =) Great vid!
ZoltanL 3 years ago
It would be effective against a boxer.. boxers do generally turn their hips, but not so much for a jab. But a straight punch, definitely.. and it would certainly still be effective, because the parry of the punch and the arm redirection gets uke to break his center. Very much so.
richp860 2 years ago
I wonder if you could add an atemi before going while going to the neck with your arm. I think it would be more effective and maybe even faster (and easier to applicate the technique thanks to the effect of the atemi)
Frozeal 3 years ago
Frozeal, yes, an atemi is always a good idea...if it does not interrupt the natural flow of the technique. I'm a big fan of atemi (obviously), but hitting someone for the sake of violence is pointless. I use atemi to gain control of the situation. Thanks a ton for watching and better yet...thinking!!!
kyushoaikiguy 3 years ago
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expert village sucks
whateva1983 3 years ago
your point is?
get a life and stop wasting internet bandwidth, please.
dwrabauke 3 years ago 2
my point is precisely that, expertvillage videos are poor and dumbed down to the point of stupidity. No mention of repetitions, of details of the technique, of time needed to make it effective in a real fight, of wariming up, of aikido philosophy and ideas, essential for making the moves effective... no mention that you can't learn martial arts by watching videos and you know that. there are better options, less pretentious. go see some videos by the doshus, or Nishio Sansei!
whateva1983 3 years ago
How contradictive. If you can learn nothing by videos, as you first say, why would you recommend watching Nishio Sensei's videos? At least stick to what you first said; and ask people to learn japanese and go learn at a dojo in Japan or something like that...
Peacekeeper88 3 years ago
no, you CAN learn from videos, but watching and practicing just to videos won't make you a decent practicioner of any martial art. I must admit that expert village videos are improving, but there are still better options, specially when it comes to learning martial arts. i recommend submissions 101.
whateva1983 3 years ago
Whateva1983, I'm the author of these vids, but I'm still going to agree with you. It is foolish to think you can actually learn aikido from simply watching a 2 minute video clip. BUT...it a person likes what he sees (which obviously you don't), he can use this to further his current studies. Maybe just a new perspective will open his/her eyes to something new? I always say in order to fill the cup, you have to empty it first. And I agree...please choose Nishio Sensei over me!!!
kyushoaikiguy 3 years ago
I actually been thinking and I now think that you are also probably too... constrained by the format of these videos. I guess your work after all is nice. (What do I really know about aikido?) I still don'0t have a favorable opinion of expertvillage. but thank you, good day.
whateva1983 3 years ago
I've seen this done a lot, but when I try I'm running into more resistance than I'd like. Anyone mind sharing exactly where those arms are making contact? Obviously it's not just a clothesline to the throat. The best I've seen has been sort of a twisting motion, rotating their shoulder over their center, while the other hand pops 'em in the hip under their center... causing them to collapse. Has anyone seen a real good detailed explanation?
dasgregorian 3 years ago
actually the position of the arm is not the biggest thing. what you want to remember is to go up to get uke's head back, (control the head control the body) then down almost straight towards the floor, and always move from your center, this is a very tricky technique but will be your best friend when you get it down
kj01a 3 years ago
I see. No one's told me to push straight down. I've always gone down and a bit back to keep them more off balanced. What do you do with your other hand? I've been told that hand pushes under their center so you're not really "pushing them down" but rotating them around their own center. Unfortunately my work schedule right now doesn't allow me to attend class, and it's hard to find a good Uke.
dasgregorian 3 years ago
You can do that with the other hand, yes. I don't like it but I think Im the exception because most people I know use their other hand like that. Just see what works best for you
yourtomboy101 3 years ago
Dasgregorian, if you don't mind, I'd like to offer some advice. Shift your mindset slightly. Instead of thinking "push them down", think "cut them down." I know, it's a small thing. But God is in the details. I ALWAYS cut their hips out with my other hand. There is a pressure point on the back right over the kidney: GB-25. You can look it up if you want. This is the target and will cut their center out from beneath them. Together with cutting down, you'll have this technique!
kyushoaikiguy 3 years ago