Then take that up with the constitution. It says that the President is to be elected by the electoral college. I actually agree with you, but Bush won according to the rules in the constitution. Sorry your so Butthurt over the fact Bush was elected...twice. But your anger is pretty pitiful. Bush is in Dallas enjoying the rest of his life and your still angry he was president. You are only hurting yourself.
Bush wasn't a great president, but he wasn't the monster that he's made out to be. Down the road people will look back on his presidency and have great respect for how he brought the country together after 9/11. Gore wouldn't have done anything positive for the country. He would have been the most dividing partisan political figure in history. That being said, other than Jon Huntsman (yes I know he dropped out) all the GOP candidates are pathetic and Obama will be reelected.
Republicans went too far and they lost in 06 and 08.They won in 10 but there's a good chance democrats will win in 12 cause they were given another chance and they did the same shit again. I think the republicans are in for a defeat in 2012.
Ten year recap of what happened from that point on with each one of them.
One of them was responsible of two wars, thousands of lost lives based on a lie (weapons of mass destruction that never existed) and the biggest national deficit America had to ever encounter. He left the white house as one of the most hated presidents in history.
On the other hand, the second guy won the nobel peace prize and is now one of the most respected personalities worldwide.
@Stalin84X BWAHAHAH!!! you must be one of the most moronic people to ever troll youtube! Bush is one of the WORST presidents this country has ever seen! ranked at the bottom of every poll. took a 5.6 trillion surplus & turned it into a the biggest deficit ever recorded. guided the county into the biggest and longest depression since the great depression. started 2 unpopular wars costing thousands of lives...please, tell me, how is he "amazig" (as you spell it)...what a fucking moron!
@astrosfan339 BWAHAHA!!! yeah! cause bush had ALL the war debts paid off.....except for that 5 trillion he forgot about...but he said, fuck it! leave it for the next pres/american people to figure out. While Obama isn't living up to everything he promised...at least he killed osama and pulled troops from iraq! you really need to stop regurgitating whatever "knowledge" oreilly/limbaugh ejaculate into your ass!
At 2:58, you can just see that Al Gore just realized that he just blew it and looked just just like an asshole. I remember watching this w/ my father and I thought WHAT THE F' IS HE DOING! Pompous and arrogant. Also at 2:58 a big GULP in his throat he's thinking... what everyone in his campaign and people watching thought....."I just f'd up bad and it's 12 minutes and 58 seconds in! And I KNOW this will be played on TV tonight"
I really wonder how he would have done without the 9-11 attack. I think he would have been a pretty good president. Still dont think he was as bad as everyone seems to think he was.
george bush is an idiot! i can't believe he won... he just used buzz words the whole time!!! al gore is educated! he explains everything. america is sheep. the same kind of thing is happening now. it makes me sooo mad!!!
@shellshee You do realize that Bush is more educated than Gore don't you? Bush has an A.B. in History and a Masters degree in Business Administration, the only US President ever to have a master's degree. Gore has an A.B. degree but dropped out of Vanderbilt twice while trying to pursue any further education. Know your facts before you make moronic comments. You OBVIOUSLY have no clue about what you think you know. GET THE FACTS.
@shellshee Don't reply in my inbox, reply here so everyone can read your responses. Don't hide because of your own ignorance. So he got in because of daddy? You have proof of this I assume? What is your proof? And, my point was not so much where they went to school, but that Bush is more educated than Gore, a fact you obviously did not know and still chose to ignore. YOU ARE WRONG, and you know it.
@shellshee So everything is fucked because of Bush and Reagan solely? Really? I think you forgot to mention Bush Sr. So no blame goes to Clinton or Obama? Why not? Oh that's right, they are Democrats and Democrats never do anything wrong. They are perfect. Clinton was perfect, Obama is perfect, yeah right. All presidents make mistakes, not one president is or has ever been perfect. You are so partisan it's disgusting but you don't think you are. Anyways, again, where is your proof?
@shellshee And again, respond here so all can read your comments, not in my inbox. If you respond there, then it is obvious you are scared to argue the facts on a public forum and I will dismiss you entirely as a person lacking in intellectual substance and any form of any real arguing or debating capabilities.
@JhosefL maybe but he only would have went into Afghanistan not Iraq and we probably would have been out by now because we would have been focusing on Afghanistan the whole time without the Iraq distraction. We would probably be a lot further along in the area of R&D for alternative energy, and have much lower energy costs due to the investments he would have made in the environment. he would also be responsible enough not to give tax cuts during a war so we would not have as much debt. so...
@22439384 No no no no no no . Gore would of received the same intelligence that Bush would had received. And would of been enough to make anyone decide to go into Iraq. so..... yeah
How better this world would had been if Gore been elected, I mean he actually won the majority of the peoples vote, but how better this world would be. A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN 8 YRS OF CORRUPTION BY THE BUSH REGIME!
by the end of the clinton administration, there was a surplus and blah blah blah......so WHY wouldnt the ppl that were old enough to vote back then not want to continue that? oh yea thats right they did vote for him.
"What about the Norwood Bill?" Yeah Bushy, what about it? Oh that's right, your campaign staff only told you to keep saying those talking points when you were asked a question, rather than (God Forbid) actually answering a single question.
Bush and Rumsfeld were right with US foreign policy to find those responsible for 911 aswell as killing saddam hussein
Bush cant be blamed for the late 2000s recession because under clinton there were also many deregulations to the economy
911 is the reason for the recession because afterwards to boost the economy interest rates were slashed, causing the housing crisis. Also china began to depreciate its currency giving america trade deficits
they keep blaming bush for the economic crisis, not realizing republicans lost the house in 2006, the economy began tanking after 2006.. when we have a bi-partisan government. (2 parties) and theres a republican senate and a democratic house, or a democratic senate and a republican house. we cant get bills passed. its not bush's fault. its the fact we have two parties. im glad bush won, i wouldnt want a tree hugging democrat as president. (my opinion)
@xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx You do realize that just because the republicans lost leadership in 2006 it doesn't mean the democrat ruined it, it was mounting up.
@xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx That's merely your opinion that their system is better than ours. I lived in Denmark for awhile and their way of living is completely different from ours. What works in one country does not mean it will work in another. So, your opinion is that those five countries have a better system than ours, my opinion is that they have a DIFFERENT system than ours, not better, not worse. Those countries are completely different from ours, so it's apples and oranges.
@xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx All those countries are facing a slowing economy. . Japan ... i don even want to get started with that . We have so much more benefits in here than all those countries combine. Even more immigrants from there are coming here for better work. If an alien came down to earth to live here and had a choose to live there or here.. it would probably be here
@xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx Dude in China yes the economy is better cause they take advantage of the U.S . They treat their workers like shit . In China its a common thing to give up your children because of their fucked up government policy. It getting better .. well yeah 50 years ago China was nothing . Believe me its not better in China.
@xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx wake up please, i´m european and social security is collapsing. millions of inmigrants are destroying peaceful conuntries and the far-right and libertarians are emerging in scandinavia. that kind of massive spending programs are failing.
theres already a far right and far left movement in america, that's the problem, they are fighting over control more than fixing our key issues. i am a libertarian, i hope you aren't mixing libertarians with liberals. i believe the government is the problem, not the immigrants...
Ha! Except that there's no difference between Democrats and Republicans anymore. If you want a candidate who is truly independent and able to say what they think instead of what they're party wants them to say, you have to vote for a third-party. Or Ron Paul. lol
Al gore's problem was he spent a lot of energy calling out Bush on his obvious problems. It set a mode of hostility and frustration. In the white house, people want a calm leader who will defend the people. It sent a false message that was misinterpreted, though he would of been one of the best presidents
@schlafen1 So are you saying he got smarter? So, he got better and better with time then. I voted for him twice and I stand by my vote. He is a smart man, you don't become President of the United States by being stupid. He is a smart man. Gore, I believe, was a great opponent and had he won, I think he would have made a pretty good president, my only concern would be how he would have handled 9/11. John Kerry in '04 though was a HORRIBLE candidate. The Dems only have their selves to blame.
@kuhnmartin A two-time Bush voter who "stands by" their vote. I was just about to rip into you but then I saw you wrote some positive remarks about Gore. I've seen very few (if any) Republicans willing to do this, so you've earned a measure of my respect. However you then proceeded to trash John Kerry. I don't understand how someone who was willing to concede a few kind words about Gore was so critical of Kerry. What was your problem with him?
@sean2015My problem with Kerry is he could never answer a question in detail.All he ever said was, "America, I have a plan," and then he briefly went over the basics but he never got into any details.He never seemed to know who he was for or against. If the democrats wanted to beat Bush that year, they might have stood a chance with a better candidate, but Kerry was not a good candidate. I am sure he is a nice person, but his campaign was not run well. That's all. Nothing against him personally.
@kuhnmartin That's not a logical argument. Politicians thrive off of coyness and half-truths. Nixon managed to get elected by saying that he had a "secret plan" to end America's involvement in Vietnam. I'd call that "not going into detail". Walter Mondale is another example. He blew his own candidacy out of the water when he said he would raise taxes to narrow the deficit. Reagan knew he might have to do the same, but he kept mum about it throughout the election. It worked for Reagan, too.
@sean2015 And don't forget, just because I had kind words for Gore doesn't mean I have to have kind words for Kerry. I liked Gore, I thought he was a good candidate, and I thought he did well in his debates with Bush and I believe Gore, as well as Bush, ran a good campaign. It came down to the wire. Kerry, however, did not. After their first debate and a few shows Kerry did, I knew he didn't stand a chance. I also like Obama and McCain both, and Obama ran an EXCELLENT campaign, it was brilliant
@kuhnmartin Why did the Dems tap Kerry for the nomination? Experience. Personal wealth. Strong military background. Obviously the Republicans knew they had their hands full with Kerry's Vietnam experience stacked up against AWOL Bush's pathetic three-year stint in the Air National Guard. So that's where the Swift Boaters came into the picture. I guess people like you fell for more classic dirty Republican tricks.
@sean2015 I never said I fell for anything. Sure the politicians thrive off of coyness and half-truths, but Kerry sucked at that. And Kerry could have all the military experience in the world, but he constantly contradicted himself over his belief in the Iraq war. I think that you think I am looking at this as a Republican vs. Democrat thing. I am not. I am middle of the road and do not consider myself either. I give credit where credit is due and recognize someone with a good idea. Gore, had
@kuhnmartin Republicans had a lot of nerve attacking Kerry over his "I voted for it before I voted against it". Kerry could've used this to his advantage by reminding voters that his original vote was based Bush's assertion that Iraq had WMD. Ordinarily I dislike flip-floppers, but when the POTUS goes in front of billions of people and says a country has WMD, you're sort of inclined to take him at his word. After all, why would a president lie about such a thing? Obviously now we know better.
@sean2015 First of all, Bush did not lie about it. I know people like use keep saying that and want to believe it, but he did not lie. The intelligence was wrong, that is not lying. He believed it to be true. Intelligence from all around the world was wrong. Either way, the world is better off without Saddam and his two sons and that is another fact. Aside from WMD, Kerry believed that Iraq was a threat to the United States and he backed president Bush's actions, WMD or no.
@kuhnmartin at 1 point gore spoke to the world about him and clinton said that saddam had wmd to, how come no one says they was wrong, only bush? lol, so your right man, people forget clinton went into iraq to, but did nothing, clintont didnt even get saddam out, at least bush did
@TheMattd546 People who want to blame Bush for everything don't like anyone to mention about Gore and Clinton also believing that Saddam had WMD because it is an inconvenient fact for them. If someone brings that up, then it completely destroys the vision that they have and want others to have that Bush lied to everyone about WMD and that he is responsible for all the evil in the world. But, that's not reality. That itself is a lie. But you are right, Bush got Saddam and the world IS better off
@kuhnmartin "Intelligence from all around the world was wrong."
But they were differently in interpreting how real the danger really was, the Germans warned that the main information source "Curveball" might be unreliable.
@kuhnmartin Youre wrong. The intelligence that said saddam had weapons of mass destruction came from only one source, that bush did not verify. Its a known fact that Bush, cheney, rice, and powell, all mislead americans about the terror threat coming from iraq. Colin powell came out and said that he was directly lied to. Your second point was correct tho, kerry did support the war.
@1962weedman No, YOU are wrong. One source? Let me name the sources, plural. The CIA, Egyptian Intelligence, Israeli intelligence, British Intelligence(SIS), and President Clinton himself before Bush got into office. That is more than one. And to say "it is a known fact" when you can't back it up with proof does not make it a known fact. People like you like to say, "Well, everybody already knows..." No, not everybody already knows. You want them to know, but without the proof, you have nothing.
@kuhnmartin Let's forget that the IAEA inspectors said "no WMD's here". Doesn't matter that the world would be better off without Saddam, an unlawfull war is unlawfull. And I hope this nags those fucking traitors who sent US soldiers to their death, and all those who have died over the last 8-10 years.
@10thAngel Facts are facts and you choose to ignore them. Intelligence agencies from all around the world said he had them. Doesn't matter that Saddam is dead? Tell that to the Iraqi people, see what they have to say about that.
@kuhnmartin He&Pals just wanted to finish the job his One Term dad didn't do. Facts are considered facts unless proven false, and that is the scientific point of view, though this is war, and men pay with their lives for it. I hope one day that George&Co will get their hanging, the war was and still is illegal under the UN Charter. There is a rather working democracy down there now, and they are free. But did US soldiers have to pay for it?
People who have never even done military service...
@10thAngel Yes, unfortunately soldiers lives DID have to pay for it. They saved countless lives in the long run and gave a once tortured people a chance at actually living. So you wish Bush would be killed? Is that what you are saying? Say it here and make it very clear that that is what you wish. Say it in no uncertain terms. And you have NO evidence that says Bush only did this to finish up what his dad didn't. None whatsoever. If you do, present it. And make your other statement very clear.
@kuhnmartin I didn't like bush or Al gore. Al gore has only proven to be an asshole with what lobbying he did and i want to stab him in the eyes with how much of a hypocrite he is, He drives in elite transportation and owns mansions that aren't green yet preaches carbon tax and eco power. Bush was surly and had too much trust in those who informed him but his worst trait is that his decided too slow. He wasn't experienced enough to be a good leader. i also hated Obama's lying.
@kuhnmartin "Well we didn't find any WMD's but we got rid of Saddam" doesn't hold up in international courts. I would fully support that he&co to get their punishment for fooling the United States populence into war, to start an aggressive war under false pretence.
"Yes, unfortunately soldiers lives DID have to pay for it" you heartless prick, to disdain others in such words, fighting a war they never wanted, and that the US didn't need. I don't see you "liberating" nation and nation
@10thAngel What international courts? No one has been tried. That is a hypothetical. You said you hoped he would hang. Say it again, and tell me you mean that. State it clearly here, VERY clearly, that you want him dead. I don't know where you got the idea that soldiers don't die during war, but they do. Soldiers sign up to serve the United States. They DO NOT decide what wars they get to fight, they know this when they sign up. If they feel that they might get into a war that they
@10thAngel Were you one of these soldiers that signed up because it sounded like a great opportunity but when shit hit the fan, you "disagreed" with the war and wanted to opt out because things got hairy? If that is the case, you did not know when signing up exactly what was expected of a United States soldier and that is your fault and yours alone.Other soldiers, and I know quite a few, would be disgusted at the sight of you.They would call you a coward, if this is indeed the case
@kuhnmartin Death, that's the thing you think about? Hanging usually leads to that. What is this need for you to read those exact words? I don't know where you got the idea that Iraq was USA's war to fight.
Fuck you, I was in Kosovo for 5 years with the Swedish UN forces. And this is where I include: "People who have never been in a warzone doesn't know what it's about, and usally these people are also strong supporters of some war" and you with RIGHT into that folder.
@10thAngel Sometimes war solves problems. Ever heard of World War II? So fuck you, I pay your salary so I get to have an opinion. I know soldiers who served several tours in Iraq and feel it was a good thing we were there and that we are doing good for the Iraqi people. So does that make your opinion defunct? No, it doesn't. So saying you are a soldier so your opinion is right doesn't make it so or hold any extra weight. As a soldier, you sure seem yellow. Were you a soldier for the
@10thAngel United States or France? You don't seem to understand that sometimes war is needed to bring about peace. You have this idea that if a soldier disagrees with a war then he should be able to opt out. Can you imagine what would happen to this country if that was possible? We would be an easy target for anyone wanting to invade us. You missed my point about Iraq. It was not about it being our war to fight or not, it was that as a soldier you cannot pick which wars you get to
@10thAngel fight in, which you seem to think soldiers should have the option. As a member of the Unites States military, you DO NOT have that option or that right and you should have known that when signing up. If you didn't want to fight, you shouldn't have volunteered, and that goes for any other soldier with a mindset like yours and I pray to God there are not too many more out there.
@kuhnmartin No you don't pay my salary, I'm Swedish. Yes WW2, but we are discussing the illegal Iraq war. Got a working democracy down there, but did all those other nations during the Arab Spring? Wow another retarded "argument" from someone who have never done military service, "yellow". "We gonna get invaded" fuck off, no one could invade the US, your nativity is astounding. And if I missed your "point" about Iraq, MINE was that it was an illegal war.
@10thAngel post2: Hell, the European powers conquered and occupied half the globe, and you cannot even take 2 nations without trouble? Again:
"We would be an easy target for anyone wanting to invade us."
Yeah.. like that will ever happen. You maybe don't realize this, but the Sovietunion is gone and wars on such scale is not beneficial any more. During it's existence, such idea was reasonable. Come back when you are not afraid of bronze-age guys with an AK47 and turbans.
@10thAngel Oh, you're Swedish, yeah, you guys are really known for having a great military. Total badasses. I got your point about Iraq being illegal. Someone had to do something because the UN wasn't and after 9/11 it was time to clean house. Speaking of talking from experience, you are in the military so you feel that you have more authority, then from that stand point, my country was attacked and 3,000 of our people were killed, not your people, OUR people. So, after that, we have
@10thAngel to defend our country. The UN passed sanction after sancition on Iraq for twelve years with no resolve. We first went after Al Qaeda, then Iraq. We did what we felt was necessary to defend our country. The rest of the world, such as your country, wasn't doing shit to help prevent and future attacks, so we took matters into our own hands. Fuck the UN. We did what we had to do because our country, unlike Sweden and many other European countries, has a brass set of balls.
@10thAngel There is no disputing that the world is better off without Saddam and his two sons. There is no argument against that. The Iraqi people have a better chance at freedom where women have more rights and girls can go to school. That was made possible by the decisions of George W. Bush, the United States military, and Great Britains military, the only other country that isn't afraid to get dirty. You on the other hand, want to run into the Alps at the first sign of war. COWARD.
@kuhnmartin When Sweden was an empire in the 1600-1800ths, we actually fought opponents that were equal or greater strength then ours. Must feel good to pound an under-technological nation that is as much threat to you as a mosquito is to the elephant. And the Sovietunion and Britain did more fighting and lost much more lives then you ever did in WW2, hell you even sent shit-equipment to the USSR as "help".
@10thAngel In the 1600s? Yeah, that was recent. What have you done lately? Like in the last 100 years? Nothing. We fought two wars at the same time against Japan and Germany who were our equal militarily, and we won. England would have lost if not for us, and again, you would be speakin German today if not for us, so, from our veterans, you are welcome. It must feel good for us to pound a nation that is not a threat to us? You mean like how Saddam had his own people tortured and
@10thAngel killed and they were no threat to him? We took him out. It needed to be done. Do you think the world is better off without Saddam in it? Of course you do, who wouldn't? Well, thank President Bush for that. Fuck Russia. They were always a sneaky lying bunch and out government knew it. Look what happened after the war? Yeah, my point exactly. Anyways, your country hasn't done shit in a long long time and people barely even know you still exist. We are still helping people
@10thAngel around the world. We always have and always will. We saved the world from German domination, again, from our veterans, you are welcome. We have to balls to get things done that need to be done. You people just sit there and remain neutral. That is what you are known for, sitting there and not doing shit no matter what. What a proud citizen you must be of your country.
@kuhnmartin Still we kicked some fine ass. German was basically what English is today back then. So the shift wouldn't been that different. Still Iraq wasn't a threat to the United States or the world, and you seem to think Saddam was. Fuck Russia? Oh sorry that they lost 26 millions while US suffered 418,500 and UK little over a million, total military and civilian deaths.
Their sacrifice was far grander then you would ever emit, and sadly that is why people say "Pfft, Americans"
@10thAngel We really are the greatest nation this world has ever know, and you are jealous that we have accomplished so much in such a short time. Russia and England were losing the war until we entered. Gee, what do you think the deciding factor was in that war? That's what I thought. We have contributed more to this world than any other country, EVER. Next time you fly a plane, or drive a car, or turn on a light bulb, thank the Americans for it.
@kuhnmartin No, Rome, Ancient China, Classical Greek and The Golden Age of Islam has most likely contributed more to the modern world, special since the Renaissance when all of the old was re-discovered after hundreds of years of scientific restrictions laid upon us by the Church.
Yeah, you have contributed much, and turned into paranoid wimps who thinks that the commies are still around and need to defend everyone, against an enemy that barely exists.
@10thAngel Okay, now I have no idea what you are talking about. You are not even writing in clear coherent sentences. What the fuck are you talking about now?
@10thAngel No, I don't know what you are talking about. I don't know what your point is anymore. You got all over the place with incomplete sentences and now I have no clue what your point is. What the hell are you talking about and what is your point?
@kuhnmartin You wanted me to explain "An enemy that barely exists?". Usually among authoritative citizens, they rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc (14th points of Facism, 2004 by Dr. Laurence Britt) And that follows US military history and political progression. Connect that to the previous little list.
@10thAngel The Nazi's in World War two were an enemy that barely existed? Holy shit, you are stupider than I thought. Do you have anything new to say, or anything of any profound intelligence or is this it? The Nazi's were not a threat? Your lack of intelligence bores me.
@10thAngel “The feeling of patriotism - It is an immoral feeling because, instead of confessing himself a son of God . . . or even a free man guided by his own reason, each man under the influence of patriotism confesses himself the son of his fatherland and the slave of his government, and commits actions contrary to his reason and conscience.” Leo Tolstoy, Patriotism and Government
@sean2015 some, Obama had some (although I am more disappointed with him than I thought I would be) but Kerry had very few if any. That's it. You are making this a partisan thing and I am looking at it objectively. Kerry was NOT a good candidate. If people thought Bush was so bad but voted for him anyways, it's only because of lack of strength of his opponent as a presidential candidate.
@sean2015 really, and though I agreed more with McCain on some issues, it was obvious he was not going to win after a while. McCain's campaign was okay, not great and not good, Obama's was run amazingly. Very smart. And he did fairly well in the debates. So, I just look at the candidates over the last ten years, all fairly good, except for Kerry. I will just never understand how the Democrats put him forward as their best option. He was not going to beat Bush nor did he. That's all.
@lukedlang He's down to earth and talks unpretentiously, sincerely, and directly. He is als more intelligent than Gore despite his accent (Harvard AND Yale, anyone?). Gore plays the intimidation card, Bush plays the humility card. Bush won, and rightly so.
6:45 Obamacare?
PatAhrnsbrak 2 days ago
BUSH IS A REAL CRIMINAL!!
kajekury 6 days ago
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carinish123 1 week ago
@carinish123
Then take that up with the constitution. It says that the President is to be elected by the electoral college. I actually agree with you, but Bush won according to the rules in the constitution. Sorry your so Butthurt over the fact Bush was elected...twice. But your anger is pretty pitiful. Bush is in Dallas enjoying the rest of his life and your still angry he was president. You are only hurting yourself.
bluedevil0704 3 days ago
George Bush to Obama fans after 4 yrs..... "MISS ME YET?"
astrosfan339 1 week ago
@astrosfan339 You might be one of the stupidest republicans i've ever seen.
SomeWriterGuy 1 day ago
Bush wasn't a great president, but he wasn't the monster that he's made out to be. Down the road people will look back on his presidency and have great respect for how he brought the country together after 9/11. Gore wouldn't have done anything positive for the country. He would have been the most dividing partisan political figure in history. That being said, other than Jon Huntsman (yes I know he dropped out) all the GOP candidates are pathetic and Obama will be reelected.
CombatWombat1987 2 weeks ago
Republicans went too far and they lost in 06 and 08.They won in 10 but there's a good chance democrats will win in 12 cause they were given another chance and they did the same shit again. I think the republicans are in for a defeat in 2012.
hermitcrab8518 2 weeks ago
Ten year recap of what happened from that point on with each one of them.
One of them was responsible of two wars, thousands of lost lives based on a lie (weapons of mass destruction that never existed) and the biggest national deficit America had to ever encounter. He left the white house as one of the most hated presidents in history.
On the other hand, the second guy won the nobel peace prize and is now one of the most respected personalities worldwide.
The cowboy was elected. How sad
Oursemou2 4 weeks ago
@Stalin84X BWAHAHAH!!! you must be one of the most moronic people to ever troll youtube! Bush is one of the WORST presidents this country has ever seen! ranked at the bottom of every poll. took a 5.6 trillion surplus & turned it into a the biggest deficit ever recorded. guided the county into the biggest and longest depression since the great depression. started 2 unpopular wars costing thousands of lives...please, tell me, how is he "amazig" (as you spell it)...what a fucking moron!
eatmytool1 1 month ago
@eatmytool1 AND NOBAMA IS BETTER? HE IS MAKING US PAY MORE FOR EVERYHING!!! YOU JAG OFF
astrosfan339 1 week ago
@astrosfan339 BWAHAHA!!! yeah! cause bush had ALL the war debts paid off.....except for that 5 trillion he forgot about...but he said, fuck it! leave it for the next pres/american people to figure out. While Obama isn't living up to everything he promised...at least he killed osama and pulled troops from iraq! you really need to stop regurgitating whatever "knowledge" oreilly/limbaugh ejaculate into your ass!
eatmytool1 1 week ago
PRESIDENT AL GORE
2001-2009
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 1 month ago
Gore should've been president and no are I di
Stlsportsfan158 1 month ago
@Stalin84X ........................ good one
johnnyblazeksgldp 1 month ago
@Stalin84X hahahahah you're fucking KIDDING me right?!?!
YUGIOHbuyANDsell 1 month ago
Manbearpig
xsk8er987 1 month ago 2
@Stalin84X Mitt Romney is a neo-con big government progressive like Obama, please don't tell me you're serious.
sgthobbes2 1 month ago
At 2:58, you can just see that Al Gore just realized that he just blew it and looked just just like an asshole. I remember watching this w/ my father and I thought WHAT THE F' IS HE DOING! Pompous and arrogant. Also at 2:58 a big GULP in his throat he's thinking... what everyone in his campaign and people watching thought....."I just f'd up bad and it's 12 minutes and 58 seconds in! And I KNOW this will be played on TV tonight"
AmerkFlack 1 month ago
I know someone who knew Bush. She said he was a great guy. I felt safe at least. NOBAMA:)
jzwatts 1 month ago
1:04 hahaha
zohiz23 1 month ago
how many of these things did bush actually do?
BNEHKG9 2 months ago
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@BNEHKG9 AND NOBAMA IS BETTER? HE IS MAKING US PAY MORE FOR EVERYHING!!! YOU JAG OFF
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kuhnmartin 2 months ago
I really wonder how he would have done without the 9-11 attack. I think he would have been a pretty good president. Still dont think he was as bad as everyone seems to think he was.
lanebatts26 2 months ago
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kuhnmartin 2 months ago
george bush is an idiot! i can't believe he won... he just used buzz words the whole time!!! al gore is educated! he explains everything. america is sheep. the same kind of thing is happening now. it makes me sooo mad!!!
shellshee 2 months ago
@shellshee You do realize that Bush is more educated than Gore don't you? Bush has an A.B. in History and a Masters degree in Business Administration, the only US President ever to have a master's degree. Gore has an A.B. degree but dropped out of Vanderbilt twice while trying to pursue any further education. Know your facts before you make moronic comments. You OBVIOUSLY have no clue about what you think you know. GET THE FACTS.
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
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kuhnmartin 2 months ago
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@shellshee Don't reply in my inbox, reply here so everyone can read your responses. Don't hide because of your own ignorance. So he got in because of daddy? You have proof of this I assume? What is your proof? And, my point was not so much where they went to school, but that Bush is more educated than Gore, a fact you obviously did not know and still chose to ignore. YOU ARE WRONG, and you know it.
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
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kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@shellshee So everything is fucked because of Bush and Reagan solely? Really? I think you forgot to mention Bush Sr. So no blame goes to Clinton or Obama? Why not? Oh that's right, they are Democrats and Democrats never do anything wrong. They are perfect. Clinton was perfect, Obama is perfect, yeah right. All presidents make mistakes, not one president is or has ever been perfect. You are so partisan it's disgusting but you don't think you are. Anyways, again, where is your proof?
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@shellshee And again, respond here so all can read your comments, not in my inbox. If you respond there, then it is obvious you are scared to argue the facts on a public forum and I will dismiss you entirely as a person lacking in intellectual substance and any form of any real arguing or debating capabilities.
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@kuhnmartin That's it? Done so soon? Thought so. Learn some facts before you speak because you sounded like an uneducated moron.
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
Al Gore, net worth, 2011: $100,000,000.
Buckeyecat2002 2 months ago
Did Gore just try to "step" to Bush? I believe he did....
gerth798 3 months ago
Bush still sounds like a fucking idiot, even back then.
maosef 3 months ago
man I miss Bush and no I am not a elephant
SuperHorseman22 3 months ago
oh my god, the republicans used to be so sane.
22439384 3 months ago
i am pretty sure that if Gore was president.. he would probably went to war and spent another trillion dollars on trying to help the environment.
JhosefL 3 months ago
@JhosefL maybe but he only would have went into Afghanistan not Iraq and we probably would have been out by now because we would have been focusing on Afghanistan the whole time without the Iraq distraction. We would probably be a lot further along in the area of R&D for alternative energy, and have much lower energy costs due to the investments he would have made in the environment. he would also be responsible enough not to give tax cuts during a war so we would not have as much debt. so...
22439384 3 months ago
@22439384 No no no no no no . Gore would of received the same intelligence that Bush would had received. And would of been enough to make anyone decide to go into Iraq. so..... yeah
JhosefL 3 months ago
What Bush Hears: Blah Blah Blah Blah, Blah. Blah Blah gov. Bush, Bla..........The difference is......Can you git er' dun'?
OBGYN. Yea boeeeeeee.
RavenMad101 4 months ago
avoid the questions much Bush?
BloodJunkie11 4 months ago
Bush wasted him here. That little nod to mock his retarded pre-decided attempt to intimidate was very astute.
OneBigRetard 4 months ago
Bush was awesome here... Gore looked like some kind of out of touch faggot really
TheJayEffkay 4 months ago
Someone please tell me how the hell Bush got even close to 50% of the votes in America? We got the fucking government we deserve.
atlsam1 4 months ago 2
How better this world would had been if Gore been elected, I mean he actually won the majority of the peoples vote, but how better this world would be. A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN 8 YRS OF CORRUPTION BY THE BUSH REGIME!
MisbahAliSyed 4 months ago
by the end of the clinton administration, there was a surplus and blah blah blah......so WHY wouldnt the ppl that were old enough to vote back then not want to continue that? oh yea thats right they did vote for him.
matt2fresh84 4 months ago
most americans like george w. bush.
exbronco1980 4 months ago
Was really creepy the way Al Gore started walking over to Bush's podium.
SUNRISERICH 5 months ago
"What about the Norwood Bill?" Yeah Bushy, what about it? Oh that's right, your campaign staff only told you to keep saying those talking points when you were asked a question, rather than (God Forbid) actually answering a single question.
bachthoven1685 5 months ago
Actions speak louder than words... Bush definitely was a better president than Al Gore would have ever been!
amphib2007 5 months ago
Gore was such an arrogant POS.
bturner20 5 months ago
if voted for bush in 2000 and 2004... I am sorry!!!
wcprocom 5 months ago
@wcprocom If you voted for Gore, Kerry and best of all, Obama, then I am sorry....
reaganremembered 5 months ago
@reaganremembered they are all corrupt, as far is i can tell
wcprocom 5 months ago
Holy shit he doesnt even know what the dingle-norwood bill is does he? He sidestepped all of gore's questions.
redriverhautbois 5 months ago
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blueovalboy18 5 months ago
Bush won this debate and was a better candidate
Bush and Rumsfeld were right with US foreign policy to find those responsible for 911 aswell as killing saddam hussein
Bush cant be blamed for the late 2000s recession because under clinton there were also many deregulations to the economy
911 is the reason for the recession because afterwards to boost the economy interest rates were slashed, causing the housing crisis. Also china began to depreciate its currency giving america trade deficits
jaggy1993 5 months ago
they keep blaming bush for the economic crisis, not realizing republicans lost the house in 2006, the economy began tanking after 2006.. when we have a bi-partisan government. (2 parties) and theres a republican senate and a democratic house, or a democratic senate and a republican house. we cant get bills passed. its not bush's fault. its the fact we have two parties. im glad bush won, i wouldnt want a tree hugging democrat as president. (my opinion)
xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx 5 months ago
@xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx You do realize that just because the republicans lost leadership in 2006 it doesn't mean the democrat ruined it, it was mounting up.
GamersFA 5 months ago
@GamersFA
im not blaming either parties, im blaming the system as a whole
xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx 5 months ago
@xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx even so its still one of the best systems in the world . i don have to tell you how it is in the other nations
JhosefL 4 months ago
@JhosefL
no its not...
xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx 4 months ago
@xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx name one country that has a better system than us
JhosefL 4 months ago
@JhosefL
lets see, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Japan, and Denmark, theres five
xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx 4 months ago
@xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx That's merely your opinion that their system is better than ours. I lived in Denmark for awhile and their way of living is completely different from ours. What works in one country does not mean it will work in another. So, your opinion is that those five countries have a better system than ours, my opinion is that they have a DIFFERENT system than ours, not better, not worse. Those countries are completely different from ours, so it's apples and oranges.
kuhnmartin 4 months ago
@xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx All those countries are facing a slowing economy. . Japan ... i don even want to get started with that . We have so much more benefits in here than all those countries combine. Even more immigrants from there are coming here for better work. If an alien came down to earth to live here and had a choose to live there or here.. it would probably be here
JhosefL 4 months ago
@JhosefL
the whole world is facing a slowing economy, except for china... explain that
xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx 4 months ago
@xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx Dude in China yes the economy is better cause they take advantage of the U.S . They treat their workers like shit . In China its a common thing to give up your children because of their fucked up government policy. It getting better .. well yeah 50 years ago China was nothing . Believe me its not better in China.
JhosefL 4 months ago
@xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx wake up please, i´m european and social security is collapsing. millions of inmigrants are destroying peaceful conuntries and the far-right and libertarians are emerging in scandinavia. that kind of massive spending programs are failing.
AyaxTelemonio 4 months ago
@AyaxTelemonio
theres already a far right and far left movement in america, that's the problem, they are fighting over control more than fixing our key issues. i am a libertarian, i hope you aren't mixing libertarians with liberals. i believe the government is the problem, not the immigrants...
xXDISASTERPIECE934Xx 4 months ago
I wont lie - Bush beat Gore hear
He beat him socially AND on the topics
Bush would beat Obama today
TheJayEffkay 6 months ago
LMAO 1:00
94xr7 6 months ago in playlist History
DAMN. GORE is ON IT! Seriously. How in the hell did Bush sound even halfway reasonable compared to Gore?
emptypepsi 6 months ago
Bush talks and talks and talks without ever making 1 point.
zacharykelway 6 months ago
Bush knew how to play the crowd, that's for damn sure.
saturnianspire 6 months ago
Man this debate is awesome. So catty. Hehehe.
saturnianspire 6 months ago
I wish Gore would primary challenge Obama.
walmartpimp2 7 months ago
and everything bush said never got done.
theillegalcause 7 months ago
hey bush did his part about seinors paying the whole price for rx drugs, now they only pay a co. pay of $3:00 thats good mr. president!
TheMattd546 8 months ago
i wonder where our country would be if Gore won. Bush is funny as hell though.
xblackiris10x 8 months ago
Lehrer is so effing biased in these debates its ridiculous. I hate him as a moderator honestly I can't stand his abrupt style and voice. AWFUL
rar9518 9 months ago
Bush although we say was idiotic really stood strong on his issue and knew how to run a debate...... with bipartisan effort.
Maestrosik 9 months ago
wow bush actually did this in office, cuz people on medicare only pay $3.00 now for any perscription
TheMattd546 9 months ago
It's funny how Bush supporting a national patients' bill of rights (which we have now) would make bush a Democrat.
Phaedra2696 9 months ago
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Ha! Except that there's no difference between Democrats and Republicans anymore. If you want a candidate who is truly independent and able to say what they think instead of what they're party wants them to say, you have to vote for a third-party. Or Ron Paul. lol
thegreatscp 9 months ago
Poor America!
loverosamundkwan 10 months ago
Looking back, Gore should be a better choice.
loverosamundkwan 10 months ago
Al gore's problem was he spent a lot of energy calling out Bush on his obvious problems. It set a mode of hostility and frustration. In the white house, people want a calm leader who will defend the people. It sent a false message that was misinterpreted, though he would of been one of the best presidents
CommunistCookie 11 months ago
@CommunistCookie I hope you're joking....Al Gore during 9/11? I shudder at just the thought!
VoiceOfModeration 11 months ago
you can just see it in bush's eye's when gore talks, he is like "fuck, i should have said that"
heselsc1 1 year ago
Bush makes his comments and then smirks because he has no idea what he is talking about
heselsc1 1 year ago
"The difference is I can get things done"
heselsc1 1 year ago
How in the hell did any level-headed person vote for George Bush?? He's even more bumbling and inarticulate here than during his presidency.
schlafen1 1 year ago
@schlafen1 So are you saying he got smarter? So, he got better and better with time then. I voted for him twice and I stand by my vote. He is a smart man, you don't become President of the United States by being stupid. He is a smart man. Gore, I believe, was a great opponent and had he won, I think he would have made a pretty good president, my only concern would be how he would have handled 9/11. John Kerry in '04 though was a HORRIBLE candidate. The Dems only have their selves to blame.
kuhnmartin 10 months ago
@kuhnmartin A two-time Bush voter who "stands by" their vote. I was just about to rip into you but then I saw you wrote some positive remarks about Gore. I've seen very few (if any) Republicans willing to do this, so you've earned a measure of my respect. However you then proceeded to trash John Kerry. I don't understand how someone who was willing to concede a few kind words about Gore was so critical of Kerry. What was your problem with him?
sean2015 6 months ago
@sean2015My problem with Kerry is he could never answer a question in detail.All he ever said was, "America, I have a plan," and then he briefly went over the basics but he never got into any details.He never seemed to know who he was for or against. If the democrats wanted to beat Bush that year, they might have stood a chance with a better candidate, but Kerry was not a good candidate. I am sure he is a nice person, but his campaign was not run well. That's all. Nothing against him personally.
kuhnmartin 6 months ago
@kuhnmartin That's not a logical argument. Politicians thrive off of coyness and half-truths. Nixon managed to get elected by saying that he had a "secret plan" to end America's involvement in Vietnam. I'd call that "not going into detail". Walter Mondale is another example. He blew his own candidacy out of the water when he said he would raise taxes to narrow the deficit. Reagan knew he might have to do the same, but he kept mum about it throughout the election. It worked for Reagan, too.
sean2015 6 months ago
@sean2015 And don't forget, just because I had kind words for Gore doesn't mean I have to have kind words for Kerry. I liked Gore, I thought he was a good candidate, and I thought he did well in his debates with Bush and I believe Gore, as well as Bush, ran a good campaign. It came down to the wire. Kerry, however, did not. After their first debate and a few shows Kerry did, I knew he didn't stand a chance. I also like Obama and McCain both, and Obama ran an EXCELLENT campaign, it was brilliant
kuhnmartin 6 months ago
@kuhnmartin Why did the Dems tap Kerry for the nomination? Experience. Personal wealth. Strong military background. Obviously the Republicans knew they had their hands full with Kerry's Vietnam experience stacked up against AWOL Bush's pathetic three-year stint in the Air National Guard. So that's where the Swift Boaters came into the picture. I guess people like you fell for more classic dirty Republican tricks.
sean2015 6 months ago
@sean2015 I never said I fell for anything. Sure the politicians thrive off of coyness and half-truths, but Kerry sucked at that. And Kerry could have all the military experience in the world, but he constantly contradicted himself over his belief in the Iraq war. I think that you think I am looking at this as a Republican vs. Democrat thing. I am not. I am middle of the road and do not consider myself either. I give credit where credit is due and recognize someone with a good idea. Gore, had
kuhnmartin 6 months ago
@kuhnmartin Republicans had a lot of nerve attacking Kerry over his "I voted for it before I voted against it". Kerry could've used this to his advantage by reminding voters that his original vote was based Bush's assertion that Iraq had WMD. Ordinarily I dislike flip-floppers, but when the POTUS goes in front of billions of people and says a country has WMD, you're sort of inclined to take him at his word. After all, why would a president lie about such a thing? Obviously now we know better.
sean2015 6 months ago
@sean2015 First of all, Bush did not lie about it. I know people like use keep saying that and want to believe it, but he did not lie. The intelligence was wrong, that is not lying. He believed it to be true. Intelligence from all around the world was wrong. Either way, the world is better off without Saddam and his two sons and that is another fact. Aside from WMD, Kerry believed that Iraq was a threat to the United States and he backed president Bush's actions, WMD or no.
kuhnmartin 6 months ago 14
@kuhnmartin at 1 point gore spoke to the world about him and clinton said that saddam had wmd to, how come no one says they was wrong, only bush? lol, so your right man, people forget clinton went into iraq to, but did nothing, clintont didnt even get saddam out, at least bush did
TheMattd546 4 months ago
@TheMattd546 People who want to blame Bush for everything don't like anyone to mention about Gore and Clinton also believing that Saddam had WMD because it is an inconvenient fact for them. If someone brings that up, then it completely destroys the vision that they have and want others to have that Bush lied to everyone about WMD and that he is responsible for all the evil in the world. But, that's not reality. That itself is a lie. But you are right, Bush got Saddam and the world IS better off
kuhnmartin 4 months ago
@kuhnmartin thank you, im glad that you see it, thanks, its very true, i couldnt have said it better!
TheMattd546 4 months ago
@kuhnmartin "Intelligence from all around the world was wrong."
But they were differently in interpreting how real the danger really was, the Germans warned that the main information source "Curveball" might be unreliable.
595o 4 months ago
@kuhnmartin Youre wrong. The intelligence that said saddam had weapons of mass destruction came from only one source, that bush did not verify. Its a known fact that Bush, cheney, rice, and powell, all mislead americans about the terror threat coming from iraq. Colin powell came out and said that he was directly lied to. Your second point was correct tho, kerry did support the war.
1962weedman 3 months ago
@1962weedman No, YOU are wrong. One source? Let me name the sources, plural. The CIA, Egyptian Intelligence, Israeli intelligence, British Intelligence(SIS), and President Clinton himself before Bush got into office. That is more than one. And to say "it is a known fact" when you can't back it up with proof does not make it a known fact. People like you like to say, "Well, everybody already knows..." No, not everybody already knows. You want them to know, but without the proof, you have nothing.
kuhnmartin 3 months ago
Anyways, there was more than one source. Just do more research next time.
kuhnmartin 3 months ago
@kuhnmartin Let's forget that the IAEA inspectors said "no WMD's here". Doesn't matter that the world would be better off without Saddam, an unlawfull war is unlawfull. And I hope this nags those fucking traitors who sent US soldiers to their death, and all those who have died over the last 8-10 years.
10thAngel 3 months ago
@10thAngel Facts are facts and you choose to ignore them. Intelligence agencies from all around the world said he had them. Doesn't matter that Saddam is dead? Tell that to the Iraqi people, see what they have to say about that.
kuhnmartin 3 months ago
@kuhnmartin He&Pals just wanted to finish the job his One Term dad didn't do. Facts are considered facts unless proven false, and that is the scientific point of view, though this is war, and men pay with their lives for it. I hope one day that George&Co will get their hanging, the war was and still is illegal under the UN Charter. There is a rather working democracy down there now, and they are free. But did US soldiers have to pay for it?
People who have never even done military service...
10thAngel 3 months ago
@10thAngel Yes, unfortunately soldiers lives DID have to pay for it. They saved countless lives in the long run and gave a once tortured people a chance at actually living. So you wish Bush would be killed? Is that what you are saying? Say it here and make it very clear that that is what you wish. Say it in no uncertain terms. And you have NO evidence that says Bush only did this to finish up what his dad didn't. None whatsoever. If you do, present it. And make your other statement very clear.
kuhnmartin 3 months ago
@kuhnmartin I didn't like bush or Al gore. Al gore has only proven to be an asshole with what lobbying he did and i want to stab him in the eyes with how much of a hypocrite he is, He drives in elite transportation and owns mansions that aren't green yet preaches carbon tax and eco power. Bush was surly and had too much trust in those who informed him but his worst trait is that his decided too slow. He wasn't experienced enough to be a good leader. i also hated Obama's lying.
Sugardaddy501 2 months ago
@Sugardaddy501 Sounds like you won't be happy with anyone in office.
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@10thAngel That's what I thought. ;)
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10thAngel 2 months ago
@kuhnmartin "Well we didn't find any WMD's but we got rid of Saddam" doesn't hold up in international courts. I would fully support that he&co to get their punishment for fooling the United States populence into war, to start an aggressive war under false pretence.
"Yes, unfortunately soldiers lives DID have to pay for it" you heartless prick, to disdain others in such words, fighting a war they never wanted, and that the US didn't need. I don't see you "liberating" nation and nation
10thAngel 2 months ago
@10thAngel What international courts? No one has been tried. That is a hypothetical. You said you hoped he would hang. Say it again, and tell me you mean that. State it clearly here, VERY clearly, that you want him dead. I don't know where you got the idea that soldiers don't die during war, but they do. Soldiers sign up to serve the United States. They DO NOT decide what wars they get to fight, they know this when they sign up. If they feel that they might get into a war that they
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@10thAngel Were you one of these soldiers that signed up because it sounded like a great opportunity but when shit hit the fan, you "disagreed" with the war and wanted to opt out because things got hairy? If that is the case, you did not know when signing up exactly what was expected of a United States soldier and that is your fault and yours alone.Other soldiers, and I know quite a few, would be disgusted at the sight of you.They would call you a coward, if this is indeed the case
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@kuhnmartin Death, that's the thing you think about? Hanging usually leads to that. What is this need for you to read those exact words? I don't know where you got the idea that Iraq was USA's war to fight.
Fuck you, I was in Kosovo for 5 years with the Swedish UN forces. And this is where I include: "People who have never been in a warzone doesn't know what it's about, and usally these people are also strong supporters of some war" and you with RIGHT into that folder.
10thAngel 2 months ago
@10thAngel Sometimes war solves problems. Ever heard of World War II? So fuck you, I pay your salary so I get to have an opinion. I know soldiers who served several tours in Iraq and feel it was a good thing we were there and that we are doing good for the Iraqi people. So does that make your opinion defunct? No, it doesn't. So saying you are a soldier so your opinion is right doesn't make it so or hold any extra weight. As a soldier, you sure seem yellow. Were you a soldier for the
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@10thAngel United States or France? You don't seem to understand that sometimes war is needed to bring about peace. You have this idea that if a soldier disagrees with a war then he should be able to opt out. Can you imagine what would happen to this country if that was possible? We would be an easy target for anyone wanting to invade us. You missed my point about Iraq. It was not about it being our war to fight or not, it was that as a soldier you cannot pick which wars you get to
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@10thAngel fight in, which you seem to think soldiers should have the option. As a member of the Unites States military, you DO NOT have that option or that right and you should have known that when signing up. If you didn't want to fight, you shouldn't have volunteered, and that goes for any other soldier with a mindset like yours and I pray to God there are not too many more out there.
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@kuhnmartin No you don't pay my salary, I'm Swedish. Yes WW2, but we are discussing the illegal Iraq war. Got a working democracy down there, but did all those other nations during the Arab Spring? Wow another retarded "argument" from someone who have never done military service, "yellow". "We gonna get invaded" fuck off, no one could invade the US, your nativity is astounding. And if I missed your "point" about Iraq, MINE was that it was an illegal war.
10thAngel 2 months ago
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@10thAngel post2: Hell, the European powers conquered and occupied half the globe, and you cannot even take 2 nations without trouble? Again:
"We would be an easy target for anyone wanting to invade us."
Yeah.. like that will ever happen. You maybe don't realize this, but the Sovietunion is gone and wars on such scale is not beneficial any more. During it's existence, such idea was reasonable. Come back when you are not afraid of bronze-age guys with an AK47 and turbans.
10thAngel 2 months ago
@10thAngel Oh, you're Swedish, yeah, you guys are really known for having a great military. Total badasses. I got your point about Iraq being illegal. Someone had to do something because the UN wasn't and after 9/11 it was time to clean house. Speaking of talking from experience, you are in the military so you feel that you have more authority, then from that stand point, my country was attacked and 3,000 of our people were killed, not your people, OUR people. So, after that, we have
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@10thAngel to defend our country. The UN passed sanction after sancition on Iraq for twelve years with no resolve. We first went after Al Qaeda, then Iraq. We did what we felt was necessary to defend our country. The rest of the world, such as your country, wasn't doing shit to help prevent and future attacks, so we took matters into our own hands. Fuck the UN. We did what we had to do because our country, unlike Sweden and many other European countries, has a brass set of balls.
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@10thAngel There is no disputing that the world is better off without Saddam and his two sons. There is no argument against that. The Iraqi people have a better chance at freedom where women have more rights and girls can go to school. That was made possible by the decisions of George W. Bush, the United States military, and Great Britains military, the only other country that isn't afraid to get dirty. You on the other hand, want to run into the Alps at the first sign of war. COWARD.
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@10thAngel By the way, if it wasn't for us, you would be speaking German today. Just remember that.
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@kuhnmartin When Sweden was an empire in the 1600-1800ths, we actually fought opponents that were equal or greater strength then ours. Must feel good to pound an under-technological nation that is as much threat to you as a mosquito is to the elephant. And the Sovietunion and Britain did more fighting and lost much more lives then you ever did in WW2, hell you even sent shit-equipment to the USSR as "help".
The Alps are not in Sweden, l2geography.
10thAngel 2 months ago
@10thAngel In the 1600s? Yeah, that was recent. What have you done lately? Like in the last 100 years? Nothing. We fought two wars at the same time against Japan and Germany who were our equal militarily, and we won. England would have lost if not for us, and again, you would be speakin German today if not for us, so, from our veterans, you are welcome. It must feel good for us to pound a nation that is not a threat to us? You mean like how Saddam had his own people tortured and
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@10thAngel killed and they were no threat to him? We took him out. It needed to be done. Do you think the world is better off without Saddam in it? Of course you do, who wouldn't? Well, thank President Bush for that. Fuck Russia. They were always a sneaky lying bunch and out government knew it. Look what happened after the war? Yeah, my point exactly. Anyways, your country hasn't done shit in a long long time and people barely even know you still exist. We are still helping people
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@10thAngel around the world. We always have and always will. We saved the world from German domination, again, from our veterans, you are welcome. We have to balls to get things done that need to be done. You people just sit there and remain neutral. That is what you are known for, sitting there and not doing shit no matter what. What a proud citizen you must be of your country.
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@kuhnmartin Still we kicked some fine ass. German was basically what English is today back then. So the shift wouldn't been that different. Still Iraq wasn't a threat to the United States or the world, and you seem to think Saddam was. Fuck Russia? Oh sorry that they lost 26 millions while US suffered 418,500 and UK little over a million, total military and civilian deaths.
Their sacrifice was far grander then you would ever emit, and sadly that is why people say "Pfft, Americans"
10thAngel 2 months ago
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@10thAngel We really are the greatest nation this world has ever know, and you are jealous that we have accomplished so much in such a short time. Russia and England were losing the war until we entered. Gee, what do you think the deciding factor was in that war? That's what I thought. We have contributed more to this world than any other country, EVER. Next time you fly a plane, or drive a car, or turn on a light bulb, thank the Americans for it.
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@kuhnmartin No, Rome, Ancient China, Classical Greek and The Golden Age of Islam has most likely contributed more to the modern world, special since the Renaissance when all of the old was re-discovered after hundreds of years of scientific restrictions laid upon us by the Church.
Yeah, you have contributed much, and turned into paranoid wimps who thinks that the commies are still around and need to defend everyone, against an enemy that barely exists.
10thAngel 2 months ago
@10thAngel An enemy that barely exists? Who are you talking about?
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@kuhnmartin Barely: "adv. By a very little; hardly: could barely see the road in the fog. In a scanty manner; sparsely: a barely furnished room."
10thAngel 2 months ago
@10thAngel No, which enemy are you talking about? I asked "who are you talking about" not "What are you talking about." I was very clear.
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@kuhnmartin First you had the British
Then the Indians/Native Americans
Then the Germans in WW1, then Nazi Germany in ww2
Then the Commies for 40-50 years
Now you got the Terrorists, the unseen enemy, it can be everywhere, anywhere. The war without end, the perfect excuse.
10thAngel 2 months ago
@10thAngel Okay, now I have no idea what you are talking about. You are not even writing in clear coherent sentences. What the fuck are you talking about now?
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@kuhnmartin Are you seriously that undereducated on history?
10thAngel 2 months ago
@10thAngel No, I don't know what you are talking about. I don't know what your point is anymore. You got all over the place with incomplete sentences and now I have no clue what your point is. What the hell are you talking about and what is your point?
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@kuhnmartin You wanted me to explain "An enemy that barely exists?". Usually among authoritative citizens, they rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc (14th points of Facism, 2004 by Dr. Laurence Britt) And that follows US military history and political progression. Connect that to the previous little list.
10thAngel 2 months ago
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@10thAngel The Nazi's in World War two were an enemy that barely existed? Holy shit, you are stupider than I thought. Do you have anything new to say, or anything of any profound intelligence or is this it? The Nazi's were not a threat? Your lack of intelligence bores me.
kuhnmartin 2 months ago
@10thAngel one of the most uneducated comments on youtube i've ever seen. congratulations :)
lanebatts26 2 months ago
@lanebatts26 Wow, you are new to the internet, aren't you?
10thAngel 2 months ago
@10thAngel “The feeling of patriotism - It is an immoral feeling because, instead of confessing himself a son of God . . . or even a free man guided by his own reason, each man under the influence of patriotism confesses himself the son of his fatherland and the slave of his government, and commits actions contrary to his reason and conscience.” Leo Tolstoy, Patriotism and Government
dualityofman999 2 months ago
@dualityofman999 Which comment are you responding to? And.. my reaction is... yes? I pretty much agree. Kindly elaborate.
10thAngel 2 months ago
@kuhnmartin obama alll day
mustangcobra401 3 months ago
@mustangcobra401 Yeah cause he has been a GREAT leader while in office. A GREAT president.
kuhnmartin 3 months ago
@sean2015 some, Obama had some (although I am more disappointed with him than I thought I would be) but Kerry had very few if any. That's it. You are making this a partisan thing and I am looking at it objectively. Kerry was NOT a good candidate. If people thought Bush was so bad but voted for him anyways, it's only because of lack of strength of his opponent as a presidential candidate.
kuhnmartin 6 months ago
@sean2015 really, and though I agreed more with McCain on some issues, it was obvious he was not going to win after a while. McCain's campaign was okay, not great and not good, Obama's was run amazingly. Very smart. And he did fairly well in the debates. So, I just look at the candidates over the last ten years, all fairly good, except for Kerry. I will just never understand how the Democrats put him forward as their best option. He was not going to beat Bush nor did he. That's all.
kuhnmartin 6 months ago
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lukedlang 1 year ago 15
@lukedlang home of the candy paint. bush was a great president.
rajman09 11 months ago
@lukedlang He's down to earth and talks unpretentiously, sincerely, and directly. He is als more intelligent than Gore despite his accent (Harvard AND Yale, anyone?). Gore plays the intimidation card, Bush plays the humility card. Bush won, and rightly so.
sirmolio 8 months ago
@sirmolio George W. Bush served honorably in Vietnam, unlike Gore who dodged the draft.
sean2015 7 months ago
@sean2015 W Was NEVER in Vietnam ! Gore WAS actually physically in Vietnam unlike Bush idiot! Clinton, however, dodged the draft, NOT Gore!
Claronium780 6 months ago
@sean2015 Not sure who you are responding to and why. I support W.
sirmolio 6 months ago
@sirmolio I see. Did you support Bush-Cheney because of their strong military backgrounds or was it because of how honest and pure they are?
sean2015 6 months ago