@timmye00 ...wow, you actually know nothing about humanism, do you? It has nothing to do with us being gods or becoming gods. Most humanists don't even believe in gods. Humanism simply seeks to address human concerns and problems, bring out the best in us, and recognize that we alone can make our lives better...that waiting for magical intervention is foolish.
We see how society does when rape and murder are the norm, how it causes others to suffer. If we live in a society where these things, rape, murder and theft are common, we too eventually suffer. It's a great big perpetual circle of stupidity and suffering. If you want, you could go to Somalia, see how your wife and children do there without these morals. I assume you think morals come from god(s)- yet these gods commanded those very atrocities....Intereseting.
Humanism is a religion. There are no objective moral values or "human rights". None of us would be alive today if our ancestors hadn't raped and killed, aka natural selection.
You are confusing Humanism with a false etymology: the word for being "with Humanity" is Humanitarianism! "Humanism", however is a materialistic naturalistic worldview based on the three "Humanist Manifestos". Humanists rather enjoy the sophistries derived from your mistake. Apart from that, the most famous implementations of Humanism were Nazism, the Stalinist Purges, and the Great Leap Forward, which killed tens of millions; and dehumanized Western civilization. Hitler WAS a humanist.
humanist values are depopulation mass genocide and death-
humanists are basically athiests- who use psychology-
hegelism
ask yourself this which has killed more people democide which is secularism humanism or religion google those questions- find true sources- edu sites and know the evil that comes from these evil people
@fatherdoom1973 You know nothing about Humanism.Are you quoting creationist pseudo reality comics?You will be claiming that hitler was a humanist next.
@fatherdoom1973 It doesn't make sense to compare saying who killed the most. Since it's related to that person, and no to his philosophy. Also, if ur talking about Hilter, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc, u should know that they didn't kill ppl in the name of atheism or humanism! Also...what's wrong with psychology?
You are not going to have your freedom soon so enjoy while you have it ! New World Order is SLAVERY !!! America been punished we have Communists running this country. welcome to Slavery you people have maby another 1 year to enjoy freedome! Much of idiots cannot wake up to reality.
i dont belive in any sort of god or higher power other then the universe, i dont push my belifes on others but its the only logical choice in belifes, im still a good person and do right, but theres no heaven hell of god. its obvouse i belive in what i can see and touch.
i dont belive in any sort of god or higher power other then the universe, i dont push my belifes on others but its the only logical choice in belifes, im still a good person and do right, but theres no heaven hell of god. its obvouse
@nickscottmilliken How do you define "good person" from an objective point of view. If it implies selflessly helping strangers, that's quite irrational and therefore anti-reason.
The sorriest part of any so-called movement of this self-actualized humanist religion is that it is not a non-theist postualation to propagate the human intelligence beyond the ken of contemplation of the Divine, (the thing it does best, apparently) whilst holding no potential outside of God's mention to moderate it's own convictions. Ergo the secular aspect is confounded with it's own religification of the indicia of intellect and it must concede that it's highest achievement is rank idolatry.
@CartesianTheist Any number of examples could be used (I dare you to prove to me that faeries, forest spirits, green men and gnolls do not exist) but they all highlight the same logic: until there is positive evidence that something DOES exist, there is no reason to believe that it exists. So go ahead and disprove my thesis that the world economy and all governments are secretly run by kitsune.
@CartesianTheist Russel's teapot exposes the fallacy of believing in something simply because it can't be DISproved. You cannot disprove that there is not a teapot orbiting the sun. The object would be too small and too far away to be observed by any of our telescopes, so there is no way of knowing for sure that such a thing absolutely does not exist. However, if someone were to state earnestly that they believed in the cosmic teapot, they would be considered insane.
@CartesianTheist Testable evidence, as in exactly that. Evidence which can be tested. In other words, empirical, evidence. Evidence which can be observed, rather than surmised by tying logic in complicated knots.
@CartesianTheist Ah, so he is immediately discredited, not on the strength or weakness of his argument, but because he was not mired in your favorite branch of pseudo-science.
@CartesianTheist Of course, one cannot rule out the possibility of some kind of entity, somewhere in the universe, bearing a resemblance to the descriptions of the Abrahamic God, but until there is testable evidence, rather than mere idle speculation, it remains purely hypothetical and irrelevant. Pondering the existence of Yahweh is like pondering the existence of unicorns, faeries or seminifrious tubloidial butt noids. You did in fact use the argumentum ad populum.
@CartesianTheist The main supporters of theistic religions, the ones who are the most vocal in the media, the ones whose names most Americans actually know, rather than a small circle of smug philosophy students, are the so-called "fundies." Your "theistic philosophers" are on the periphery, almost completely irrelevant. A logical worldview, based on what can be observed from nature, offers absolutely zero evidence of any kind of god or godlike entity.
@CartesianTheist I don't give a fuck about what's "popular," logic isn't a democracy, any number of people can be wrong. You're using "argumentum ad populum," one of the oldest, crudest fallacies in the book, if you want to be a good pseudo-intellectual, you're going to have to do better than that.
@CartesianTheist I have yet to see any prominent atheist use an "anti-intellectual" argument, rather, the anti-intellectualism mostly comes from the theists, arguments amounting to "it says so in this magic book, so that settles it!" or "I don't see any crocoducks or giraffegators, so evolution is obviously a lie!"
@CartesianTheist But, while we're dropping names, I might as well join in: what do you have to say about Bertrand Russel? His famous "cosmic tea pot" example is logical and concise, and has yet to be defeated, unlike the tortured pseudo-logic that you use as a smoke screen to hide your own ignorance.
@CartesianTheist Not only do you boast of your ignorance, but you wrap it in the names of famous dead people and use their theories to prop up your sophistry. One does not need to waste valuable brain space with pointless hypotheticals and desperate twistings of the ideas of a few well-worn names in order to see through your bullshit.
@CartesianTheist "All philosophers" don't agree on shit. Philosophy isn't even a science anymore anyway, it's been reduced to a bunch of pointless bullshit thought games. Claiming that something exists does not constitute "evidence."
@CartesianTheist Claiming that there is no such thing as God is not a "positive truth claim," it is the exact opposite. You don't need to provide evidence that something DOESN'T exist, only point to the utter lack of evidence that it DOES. You're using sophistry to try to shift the burden of evidence again.
@CartesianTheist No you haven't. You haven't provided evidence of shit. Only some lame attempts at sophistry. One does not need to provide "evidence that there is no evidence," that is not how logic works. If you have a positive assertion i.e. that there IS a god, then it is your job to provide the evidence.
@CartesianTheist But you and I wouldn't hurt people because it upsets us. And also...maybe the reason is because thats the way we have been programmed by society, as you said yourself we would be punish. Thats a theory in itself to morality.. doesn't it work. Your answer needs God to exist right? Well the burden of proof is on you. You can't provide proof for your origin of morality without proving god.
Anything that is advertised as a transcendent answer to God, with thump-bumping music is too profane for it's self-styling, self-congratualating...pompous schlock against Christ. A relative morality does not reach to imputational perfection that is necessary for transcedent Justification from all things. You are liars, murderers, and slanderers of holy men, and God will make you drink thieir blood in the end. you FOOLS! Jesus LOVES you, and repentance is not taking on religion, but Self: Lk 15
@CartesianTheist Most people get upset by the same things. How can you not see that? I don't go around hurting people... so why don't I? Did I make up all my own rules which just happened to work?
@CartesianTheist If someone stole from me, I would be upset. I don't want to upset people so I don't steal from people. Most animals in the animal kingdom live their lives without stealing...no one told them. And why must there be another way that we are aware of... so if I don't have an answer it must be god? People can figure morality out by themselves, I'm living proof of that, I just worked it out and so did you.
[1.] humanist values = self centeredness [ 2.] humanist values= godlessness[ 3.] humanist values = incert one's own law of morality[ 4.] humanist values = think they are superior to GOD [5.] humanist values= prideful [ 6.] humanist values = lovers of self ...
@fordatude I'm a humanist and my moral comes a concern for fellow man. I don't think I'm superior to god because I don't believe such a thing exists. I love myself no more than I love my friends and family. You are the one that seems to have the grudges judging by your comment.
Note the brainless bimbo in the middle of the clip, using her fingers to form the luciferian pyramid, like so many sold out pop stars do nowadays. They are so incredibly stupid that they don't even realize that they''ve been totally and completely HAD, by the secret societies promoting the humanist agenda, which in actuality, is satans agenda.
Why is it that whenever progress towards a better future is attempted, backwards religious cavemen call it the work of Satan? And people wonder why the dark ages lasted for so long.
humanist can have values but they can't back them and are essentially only an opinion. to make a humanist wrong all you have to do is have an opinion that is ever so slightly different than the one that they are professing.
it is interesting to note that in order to try to prove humanists can have moral values separate from a traditional religious belief systems they go ahead a borrow the values from traditional religious belief systems that they are trying to discredit! now that's funny!!!
@RedLetterChristian christians didnt create morals.. many of the morals we see today were morals when we were cavemen. its a simple understanding of doing to others only that which you would want done to yourself.. notice we dont follow the religious morals of persecuting gays, killing non-believers, murdering millions in the name of a fake creature, forcing others to do things they dont wish to do... yeah you can keep those morals
@raztis1 Hundreds of millions? Wow, can you make up a bigger lie? LOL! You want hundreds of millions of murders, try atheism and communism, you uneducated moron.
@LordWhorfinX2 yeah you may want to check that again. there is a ton of information verifying the deaths of at least 100million through christian persecution including hitler (roman catholic), protestant decimation of the american indian, the 10+ crusades, religious wars of the dark ages, the african slave trade, the inquisition, and dozens more. athiesm cannot cause death because athiesm is simply a refusal to believe in fairytales, it has no structure or belief system, learn b4 u speak
@LordWhorfinX2 again, stop getting your info from fox news, and learn something. hitler wrote in mein kampf that he was a catholic and destroying the jews would bring about his own apocalypse that would cleanse the earth. wether you want to believe it or not, he was of christian faith and killed JEWS because of his beliefs. your obviously a sheep, repeating what your power mad dictators tell you to. one cannot kill in the name of athiesm because it has no belief structure to believe, idiot.
@raztis1 You never stopped to think that he USED religion to get people to follow him!? YOU'RE the sheep, kid. Like a blind fucking lemming marching off the cliff with the rest of the atheist scum.
@raztis1 It's idiots like you that think the Founding Fathers were atheists despite mentioning God and Creator everywhere, but think Hitler really WAS a Catholic....LMAO!!! You are pathetic. How come the Founding Fathers weren't religious? Oh, because it's convenient for your argument? right...got it....you're a twit..lol
@LordWhorfinX2 ben franklin: The Way to see by Faith, is to shut the Eye of Reason" ""I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies.""Revealed religion has no weight with me."
frankie was agnostic.
thomas jefferson: "Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity." ..continued
@LordWhorfinX2 jefferson: "never being my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. "
"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law
oh and HITLER: "I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work."
what is this bullshit atheistic propaganda? What a load of crap....atheists are subhumans just stealing the morals and values of religious people and calling it theirs.....
@LordWhorfinX2 what morals.. you mean the morals of christians? like preachers fucking little boys, or the persecution of gays, or the hundreds of millions that were murdered, tortured, and displaced in the name of christianity? yeah.. great morals..
Win 500 dollars, eh? Bling Bling.... This video seems to be a bad representation of a set of values when at the end, it just sins to capitalist morals.
ploovi01 echos many of my own sentiments. Religion is not a central aspect of humanism. You can be a theist and a humanist. It is not mutually exclusive. It gets tiring having to explain what humanism actually is after having it so thoroughly trounced upon by atheist propaganda. I am a fairly atheistic agnostic, but my religious views have nothing to do with my humanistic views. I believe in the Spinoza method of separation, not these people's, as it's merely an atheistic tyranny. ie religious.
Clearly, 90-second videos and sound bite responses are not the best way to present any philosophy, religion, or faith. Humanism is widely misunderstood, and this video doesn't help. Humanists generally agree that organized religion is not required to be an ethical, and compassionate person or society. But Humanists are most certainly not all atheists. Faith is a natural and healthy part of the human experience, and Humanism itself presents, not an anti-religion, but a secular faith.
The humanist has no notion of "rights" period. They coerce the planet into worshiping their institutions through massive licensing laws, compulsory school attendance/college accreditation, and gun control. They viscously attempt to assert that man's institutions are all powerful and all knowing and have a right to rule over an individual. This is, of course, regardless of what the human can achieve. Humanism is a cancer on life and scientific pursuit and discovery.
Yeah... but not as "visciously" as we attempt to assert individuals' right to control the institutions. The more power is given to the government, the more control of the government must be given to the citizens to ensure that the power is wielded only for the good of the citizens and not as a force of oppression. See Norway, Sweden, and Denmark for prime examples of the government working for the good of the people.
Who/what are a bunch of smooth talking attorneys and politicians to declare what "good" is or what constitutes "the people." They're "Democracies" in one, Voltairean sense sure, the majority rule. However, a dictatorship by a majority is a dictatorship nonetheless. It doesn't matter if millions of innocents are killed by a majority of more millions or by one lunatic. Socialist countries' governments impose on autodidacts' rights of merit often, not to mention murder through "abortion."
Unfortunately, you have a skewed view of what humanism is. It's not your fault, it's the humanists that aren't who are at fault. It troubles me greatly that the humanistic tradition has been so thoroughly trounced upon here. I would suggest you take a look at renaissance humanism on up. you'll find this flavor of humanism is just a perversion. There was even a "movement" in Northern Europe known as Christian Humanism in the 16th century. I'll leave you with this. Secular is not atheist. Far from
'The significant thing is that rationalist, humanist man began by saying that Christianity was not rational enough. Now he has come around in a wide circle and ended as a mystic - though a mystic of a special kind. He is a mystic with nobody there... finding his answers upstairs [significance and meaning] by a leap away from rationality and away from reason' Francis Shaeffer
_Do you try to live an ethical and fulfilling life without religious belief?
_Do you think science and reason lead to more reliable knowledge than faith?
_Do you support secular government and an open society that guarantees human rights for all?
If you answered "yes" to these questions, you might be one of the millions of humanists on Earth -- people who live meaningful, fulfilling lives based on reason and compassion.
"If you answered "yes" to these questions, you might be one of the millions of humanists on Earth -- people who live meaningful, fulfilling lives based on reason and compassion."
"I have made a donation in your name to THE HUMAN FUND." George Costanza
I am Humanist, but I will not deny that a lot of my influence came from Christianity. But I also read Lao Tzu and Buddism. I embrace and respect many of those teachings. However, I do not believe there is a divine spirit watching over me. I also believe when your dead....that's it.....over. which makes me even more of a Humanist, why wait for death to find peace. I don't believe we ever will find it "en mass" - create your own little pocket of resistance and enjoy life and your friends.
does anyone really 'know,' what will happen after you die, do you really know if there is a god, no, you believe, have faith, feel, etc.
i don't 'know that there is a god, nor do i 'know' that there isn't one, or many for that matter. I'm just saying that we cant tear each other apart off our, beliefs, a.k.a. guesses, we don't know. there is no way we can know. the only thing we can do is live our life to our fullest and do something good in the world. Not, kill each other over this nonsense.
@LordWhorfinX2 well, i just proved my point.. so, again your supid.. and the morals of the average athiest and agnostic is enormous compared to the greed driven predjudice christian faith
@raztis1 I highly advise you NOT to learn things from tinwiki or other loon websites. Atheism is a plague that must be destroyed. And WILL be destroyed.
@LordWhorfinX2 oh, there we go. i prove my point, and you shut down and call me a liar... yup.. your a christian alright. no real point, just fanatical banter..
@LordWhorfinX2 wow... so the christian sais athiests have no morals, then calls them maggots.wow real moral there pal. athiests believe in being good to people for the hopes of equal treatment, they dont discriminate against a people or race, they dont kill in the name of anything. christians on the other hand have killed millions upon millions, discriminate even today, force their beliefs on others. and then refuse to follow these ame beliefs ecause they think they can pray it away. morals?
@raztis1 Atheists are not human. By their OWN definition they are no better than insects. Also, atheism has killed FAR more than anything...fact. Also, I do not discriminate against people of any religion, race, color, etc etc......Atheism does however....
@LordWhorfinX2 what the fuck r u talking about? do you just make shit up as you go along? atheism hasnt killed anyone, because atheism doesnt have a belief structure to drive someone to do anything. christianity has killed over 150 million people..fact. and the whole atheists r racist puke, again your a moron, because athiests has nothing to do with any of that shit, its simply the belief that religion is incorrect. too bad its obvious that your to stupid to understand any of this.
@LordWhorfinX2 wow, your starting to get it.. your correct.. athiesm HASNT done anything good or bad, atheism means nothing more than "you dont believe in a god... nothing more, u cant use it for good or bad. u cant say im killing in the name of athiesm, and u cant say im feeding the hungry in the name of athiesm, it has no code, or expectation. wow..ive actually taught a sheep something.. feelin pretty good. hitler was catholic soo take him off, and pol killed cause he was crazy not cuz athiest
@JustRockinMan Atheism isn't peaceful at all. Either you claim it is NOTHING or that it is something that Hitler (yeah, he was atheist), Mao, Polt Pot, Stalin all used to MURDER millions.
@LordWhorfinX2 So they murdered in the name of nothing then. I see. Atheism is more peaceful than any religion out there. Atheists don't kill in the name of a "god" like the 5748535783953534587 religions that are out there do. End of story. And Hitler was raised as a christian, it was the christian values that was pumped into his head as a young boy, not atheism. Get a grip and wake up.
@JustRockinMan Hitler was not Christian. He used religion, like so many other twisted leaders, to get people to follow him.
Atheism is a disease. Atheists don't kill in the name of anything, sure, but they still kill with atheism pumped in their heads...........it is not I who needs to "get a grip". Atheism is devoid of morals and ethics....only has animalistic survival tactics at best.
I'm an atheist, and what you say is not true. It;s bigotry. This is why atheists generally don't like Christians. You claim we're amoral monsters because we don't believe as you do.
The fact that you can name a handful of murderous atheists means nothing, they all had black hair, maybe that's the connection, no wait, I've got it, none of them were Australian, that must be it. The fact is that not one of them gave atheism as the reason for what they did, MANY have murdered in the name of religion. There's no correlation between atheism and mass murder and certainly no evidence of causality, this argument is completely fallacious.
The problem is that you WILL EXIST after death. There is a Heaven and a Hell and there will be a Judgment Day for all of us. You, me, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mohammad, the Pope..all of us will face Christ who died for us.
Anne....I not talking about joining a "religion". As you probably know, the "religious leaders" of the day were the ones that had Christ crucified. Every thing He spoke was contrary to "their way". Christ wants to have a personal relationship with you. Christ wants to removes the heavy burdens you carry. Christ wants to fellowship with you daily. John 3:16
Which bronze age sheephearders do you speak of? Matthew was a tax collector who worked for the government. Paul also worked for the government rounding up Christians for persecution. Luke was a physician. David and Solomon were both Kings. Peter was a fisherman. MOSES...was a part of Pharaoh's family until he killed a soldier.
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The most important things an atheist can do to protect his all consuming sin is to discount 1) the existence of God 2) the validity of the Bible 3) the reality of HELL and 4)the certainty of Judgment. If there IS NO GOD, all things are PERMISSIBLE.
It has not worked because you have not made a total commitment to Christ. You are still hanging on t something. Christ can not begin His miraculous work until you surrender all. The first thing you must do is find a good Bible preaching church. google Jeremiah 29:13
i ended up back in hospital again and nearly died but at no time did i want to have a relationship with this fictional character.i would have gone without complaint.
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." Matthew 7:13
I think it's more than my "personal opinion" that there is no book with all the answers, especially the Bible. Some things will forever remain a mystery. If you are comforted by the thought that there is heaven and hell, that's good. It doesn't change the fact that we will never know for sure if they exist or not.
yes...exactly...and death to anyone that doesnt!!! As a non-thesic I say if it WORKS 4 u then do it. I dont need a reason to be christian BUT Im not christian therfore I dont need a reason.
1st sentence is sarcastic...just trying to get you to see that others of different sects and cults might think the same as you. Different people have different ideas on what paradise is / might be and how to achieve it.
IMHO your comment is idealistic and a little narrow.
i am not narrow i dont see people as a religion i see them firstly as people i was talking about the christians who arent tolerent of any other religion i thought you would have understood that.
i c. u being sarky too. sometimes a lot of 'arguments'' on youtube are over semantics...cos you cant see the other persons body language or hear there tone of voice etc. Peace.
The next problem for you is that "millions" have accepted Christ as their savior. Jesus "paid the price" for their iniquity and sin. Why would a good and fair Judge, release those who have not "paid the price" since so many more have?
In order for there to be an afterlife we'd have to survive the death of our brains. There is no '100% correct' for anyone. It is highly improbable that a creative god/supernatural force exists, so I live my live on the assumption that it does not exist. I won't go into the arguments that you've probably heard a million times and rejected because you "have faith". It's not a level playing field for a debate.
Everything you are exist within your "soul". When the body dies (including the brain) the soul remains. God designed the soul to last for eternity. The Bible tells us that we will all have a form of a body in which we recognize one another but the soul will be the same one we have here in this life.
I'm a Christian and I believe Humanist have values and morals. The problem is, God is looking for Salvation and repentance for breaking His Law. Being moral and having values will not get you into Heaven.
Dawkins isn't a Humanist, he's a Bright.
Jonabob87 1 week ago
Humanists think they are going to be all gods one day,or they are already gods. What a Stupid lot fuck wits.
timmye00 2 months ago
@timmye00 ...wow, you actually know nothing about humanism, do you? It has nothing to do with us being gods or becoming gods. Most humanists don't even believe in gods. Humanism simply seeks to address human concerns and problems, bring out the best in us, and recognize that we alone can make our lives better...that waiting for magical intervention is foolish.
Ashiman12 2 months ago
Humanists should teach us how to stretch our earlobes and be a degenerate, They're quite good at that.
JonestownHangover 4 months ago
Horrible music!
Try my video 'Its up to us humanism'
maryfletcher4 4 months ago
good for you
zacattack3201 9 months ago
We're screwed, they call it Church & State (separation), but it's really State & State.
ChicaWolverina 10 months ago
@Castratii and IndividualMoronity
We see how society does when rape and murder are the norm, how it causes others to suffer. If we live in a society where these things, rape, murder and theft are common, we too eventually suffer. It's a great big perpetual circle of stupidity and suffering. If you want, you could go to Somalia, see how your wife and children do there without these morals. I assume you think morals come from god(s)- yet these gods commanded those very atrocities....Intereseting.
TurboDally 10 months ago
Humanism is anti-reason. Its more feel-good bullshit.
Castaril 1 year ago
@Castaril
YES!
IndividualAutonomy 11 months ago
Humanism is a religion. There are no objective moral values or "human rights". None of us would be alive today if our ancestors hadn't raped and killed, aka natural selection.
Castaril 1 year ago
You are confusing Humanism with a false etymology: the word for being "with Humanity" is Humanitarianism! "Humanism", however is a materialistic naturalistic worldview based on the three "Humanist Manifestos". Humanists rather enjoy the sophistries derived from your mistake. Apart from that, the most famous implementations of Humanism were Nazism, the Stalinist Purges, and the Great Leap Forward, which killed tens of millions; and dehumanized Western civilization. Hitler WAS a humanist.
kpharris32 1 year ago
humanist values are depopulation mass genocide and death-
humanists are basically athiests- who use psychology-
hegelism
ask yourself this which has killed more people democide which is secularism humanism or religion google those questions- find true sources- edu sites and know the evil that comes from these evil people
fatherdoom1973 1 year ago
@fatherdoom1973 You know nothing about Humanism.Are you quoting creationist pseudo reality comics?You will be claiming that hitler was a humanist next.
stratocaster539 1 year ago
@fatherdoom1973 It doesn't make sense to compare saying who killed the most. Since it's related to that person, and no to his philosophy. Also, if ur talking about Hilter, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc, u should know that they didn't kill ppl in the name of atheism or humanism! Also...what's wrong with psychology?
rolingpingu 1 year ago
You are not going to have your freedom soon so enjoy while you have it ! New World Order is SLAVERY !!! America been punished we have Communists running this country. welcome to Slavery you people have maby another 1 year to enjoy freedome! Much of idiots cannot wake up to reality.
margobird11 1 year ago
@margobird11 U belief in that?
rolingpingu 1 year ago
i dont belive in any sort of god or higher power other then the universe, i dont push my belifes on others but its the only logical choice in belifes, im still a good person and do right, but theres no heaven hell of god. its obvouse i belive in what i can see and touch.
nickscottmilliken 1 year ago
i dont belive in any sort of god or higher power other then the universe, i dont push my belifes on others but its the only logical choice in belifes, im still a good person and do right, but theres no heaven hell of god. its obvouse
nickscottmilliken 1 year ago
@nickscottmilliken How do you define "good person" from an objective point of view. If it implies selflessly helping strangers, that's quite irrational and therefore anti-reason.
Castaril 1 year ago
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@Castaril
YES
IndividualAutonomy 11 months ago
Is everyone who has religious values an extremist? Seriously, are they?
BillTheDullard 1 year ago
it's bad enough you people exist, but do you have to spout your nonsense from every rooftop?
Nobody cares, we don't need to hear this lies.,
Just bible-dumb go read a bible again you moron.
AnonymousElektron 1 year ago
The sorriest part of any so-called movement of this self-actualized humanist religion is that it is not a non-theist postualation to propagate the human intelligence beyond the ken of contemplation of the Divine, (the thing it does best, apparently) whilst holding no potential outside of God's mention to moderate it's own convictions. Ergo the secular aspect is confounded with it's own religification of the indicia of intellect and it must concede that it's highest achievement is rank idolatry.
kpharris32 1 year ago
@kpharris32 the choice is simple - you are with Humanity or you are with the fairies.
stratocaster539 1 year ago
>:(
oohrah1996 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist More sophistry. This isn't an "axiom," it's just simple logic. I'm getting tired of this.
yerk3 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist Any number of examples could be used (I dare you to prove to me that faeries, forest spirits, green men and gnolls do not exist) but they all highlight the same logic: until there is positive evidence that something DOES exist, there is no reason to believe that it exists. So go ahead and disprove my thesis that the world economy and all governments are secretly run by kitsune.
yerk3 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist Russel's teapot exposes the fallacy of believing in something simply because it can't be DISproved. You cannot disprove that there is not a teapot orbiting the sun. The object would be too small and too far away to be observed by any of our telescopes, so there is no way of knowing for sure that such a thing absolutely does not exist. However, if someone were to state earnestly that they believed in the cosmic teapot, they would be considered insane.
yerk3 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist Testable evidence, as in exactly that. Evidence which can be tested. In other words, empirical, evidence. Evidence which can be observed, rather than surmised by tying logic in complicated knots.
yerk3 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist Ah, so he is immediately discredited, not on the strength or weakness of his argument, but because he was not mired in your favorite branch of pseudo-science.
yerk3 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist "Academic" consensus doesn't mean shit when the area of expertise of your "academics" is philosophy, which is a pseudo-science.
yerk3 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist Of course, one cannot rule out the possibility of some kind of entity, somewhere in the universe, bearing a resemblance to the descriptions of the Abrahamic God, but until there is testable evidence, rather than mere idle speculation, it remains purely hypothetical and irrelevant. Pondering the existence of Yahweh is like pondering the existence of unicorns, faeries or seminifrious tubloidial butt noids. You did in fact use the argumentum ad populum.
yerk3 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist The main supporters of theistic religions, the ones who are the most vocal in the media, the ones whose names most Americans actually know, rather than a small circle of smug philosophy students, are the so-called "fundies." Your "theistic philosophers" are on the periphery, almost completely irrelevant. A logical worldview, based on what can be observed from nature, offers absolutely zero evidence of any kind of god or godlike entity.
yerk3 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist I don't give a fuck about what's "popular," logic isn't a democracy, any number of people can be wrong. You're using "argumentum ad populum," one of the oldest, crudest fallacies in the book, if you want to be a good pseudo-intellectual, you're going to have to do better than that.
yerk3 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist I have yet to see any prominent atheist use an "anti-intellectual" argument, rather, the anti-intellectualism mostly comes from the theists, arguments amounting to "it says so in this magic book, so that settles it!" or "I don't see any crocoducks or giraffegators, so evolution is obviously a lie!"
yerk3 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist But, while we're dropping names, I might as well join in: what do you have to say about Bertrand Russel? His famous "cosmic tea pot" example is logical and concise, and has yet to be defeated, unlike the tortured pseudo-logic that you use as a smoke screen to hide your own ignorance.
yerk3 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist Not only do you boast of your ignorance, but you wrap it in the names of famous dead people and use their theories to prop up your sophistry. One does not need to waste valuable brain space with pointless hypotheticals and desperate twistings of the ideas of a few well-worn names in order to see through your bullshit.
yerk3 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist Blah blah, drop some names, whatever it takes to sustain your facade of erudition I guess.
yerk3 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist "All philosophers" don't agree on shit. Philosophy isn't even a science anymore anyway, it's been reduced to a bunch of pointless bullshit thought games. Claiming that something exists does not constitute "evidence."
yerk3 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist Claiming that there is no such thing as God is not a "positive truth claim," it is the exact opposite. You don't need to provide evidence that something DOESN'T exist, only point to the utter lack of evidence that it DOES. You're using sophistry to try to shift the burden of evidence again.
yerk3 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist No you haven't. You haven't provided evidence of shit. Only some lame attempts at sophistry. One does not need to provide "evidence that there is no evidence," that is not how logic works. If you have a positive assertion i.e. that there IS a god, then it is your job to provide the evidence.
yerk3 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist No it can't. It is a positive assertion with no evidence.
yerk3 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist But you and I wouldn't hurt people because it upsets us. And also...maybe the reason is because thats the way we have been programmed by society, as you said yourself we would be punish. Thats a theory in itself to morality.. doesn't it work. Your answer needs God to exist right? Well the burden of proof is on you. You can't provide proof for your origin of morality without proving god.
ollybreh 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist So why does the thought of people getting hurt upset me? Which it does as it probably does to you. Even people that I don't know.
ollybreh 1 year ago
Anything that is advertised as a transcendent answer to God, with thump-bumping music is too profane for it's self-styling, self-congratualating...pompous schlock against Christ. A relative morality does not reach to imputational perfection that is necessary for transcedent Justification from all things. You are liars, murderers, and slanderers of holy men, and God will make you drink thieir blood in the end. you FOOLS! Jesus LOVES you, and repentance is not taking on religion, but Self: Lk 15
kpharris32 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist Most people get upset by the same things. How can you not see that? I don't go around hurting people... so why don't I? Did I make up all my own rules which just happened to work?
ollybreh 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist If someone stole from me, I would be upset. I don't want to upset people so I don't steal from people. Most animals in the animal kingdom live their lives without stealing...no one told them. And why must there be another way that we are aware of... so if I don't have an answer it must be god? People can figure morality out by themselves, I'm living proof of that, I just worked it out and so did you.
ollybreh 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist Not at all. You have to be told have to behave..in my view this is not moral.
ollybreh 1 year ago
[1.] humanist values = self centeredness [ 2.] humanist values= godlessness[ 3.] humanist values = incert one's own law of morality[ 4.] humanist values = think they are superior to GOD [5.] humanist values= prideful [ 6.] humanist values = lovers of self ...
fordatude 1 year ago
@fordatude I'm a humanist and my moral comes a concern for fellow man. I don't think I'm superior to god because I don't believe such a thing exists. I love myself no more than I love my friends and family. You are the one that seems to have the grudges judging by your comment.
ollybreh 1 year ago
I'm a humanist & i'm the epitome of a good Christian..
wA7racer 1 year ago
Note the brainless bimbo in the middle of the clip, using her fingers to form the luciferian pyramid, like so many sold out pop stars do nowadays. They are so incredibly stupid that they don't even realize that they''ve been totally and completely HAD, by the secret societies promoting the humanist agenda, which in actuality, is satans agenda.
DelusionTerminator 1 year ago
@DelusionTerminator
Why is it that whenever progress towards a better future is attempted, backwards religious cavemen call it the work of Satan? And people wonder why the dark ages lasted for so long.
Zamboro 1 year ago
Reason?? Yeah... right! Get into an argument with a creature like that, and you'll see "reason" alright... lol.
Compassion?? Yeah right! Compassion for those SHE loves and cares about, and ONLY those who AGREE with her.
Equal rights?? Yeah... right! won't be happy with anything short of SUPERIOR rights for militant feminazi's like herself.
Who do these scum REALLY think they are kidding?
DelusionTerminator 1 year ago
@DelusionTerminator you are an idiot.. don't reply i just thought i'd throw that out there
ollybreh 1 year ago
humanist can have values but they can't back them and are essentially only an opinion. to make a humanist wrong all you have to do is have an opinion that is ever so slightly different than the one that they are professing.
it is interesting to note that in order to try to prove humanists can have moral values separate from a traditional religious belief systems they go ahead a borrow the values from traditional religious belief systems that they are trying to discredit! now that's funny!!!
RedLetterChristian 1 year ago
@RedLetterChristian christians didnt create morals.. many of the morals we see today were morals when we were cavemen. its a simple understanding of doing to others only that which you would want done to yourself.. notice we dont follow the religious morals of persecuting gays, killing non-believers, murdering millions in the name of a fake creature, forcing others to do things they dont wish to do... yeah you can keep those morals
raztis1 1 year ago
@raztis1 Hundreds of millions? Wow, can you make up a bigger lie? LOL! You want hundreds of millions of murders, try atheism and communism, you uneducated moron.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 yeah you may want to check that again. there is a ton of information verifying the deaths of at least 100million through christian persecution including hitler (roman catholic), protestant decimation of the american indian, the 10+ crusades, religious wars of the dark ages, the african slave trade, the inquisition, and dozens more. athiesm cannot cause death because athiesm is simply a refusal to believe in fairytales, it has no structure or belief system, learn b4 u speak
raztis1 1 year ago
@raztis1 Oh that old excuse....lol....first, learn history, Hitler was an atheist...as was Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot...etc...etc....
Atheism is the most horrible plague to hit the world. Atheists are subhuman pond scum....by definition they are no better than germs.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 again, stop getting your info from fox news, and learn something. hitler wrote in mein kampf that he was a catholic and destroying the jews would bring about his own apocalypse that would cleanse the earth. wether you want to believe it or not, he was of christian faith and killed JEWS because of his beliefs. your obviously a sheep, repeating what your power mad dictators tell you to. one cannot kill in the name of athiesm because it has no belief structure to believe, idiot.
raztis1 1 year ago
@raztis1 You never stopped to think that he USED religion to get people to follow him!? YOU'RE the sheep, kid. Like a blind fucking lemming marching off the cliff with the rest of the atheist scum.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@raztis1 It's idiots like you that think the Founding Fathers were atheists despite mentioning God and Creator everywhere, but think Hitler really WAS a Catholic....LMAO!!! You are pathetic. How come the Founding Fathers weren't religious? Oh, because it's convenient for your argument? right...got it....you're a twit..lol
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 ben franklin: The Way to see by Faith, is to shut the Eye of Reason" ""I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies.""Revealed religion has no weight with me."
frankie was agnostic.
thomas jefferson: "Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity." ..continued
raztis1 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 jefferson: "never being my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. "
"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law
oh and HITLER: "I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work."
raztis1 1 year ago
what is this bullshit atheistic propaganda? What a load of crap....atheists are subhumans just stealing the morals and values of religious people and calling it theirs.....
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 what morals.. you mean the morals of christians? like preachers fucking little boys, or the persecution of gays, or the hundreds of millions that were murdered, tortured, and displaced in the name of christianity? yeah.. great morals..
raztis1 1 year ago
God reveals to us what is true, what is right and
wrong. We don't make up our own truth or make
up what is right or wrong.
Repent and open your hearts and minds to Truth.
2000yrCatholic 1 year ago
@2000yrCatholic your stupid, and a sheep.. follow the herd off the cliff non-thinker
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a3laaaa 1 year ago
is humanist must be a polymathic person?
a3laaaa 1 year ago
@a3laaaa humanism necessary but not sufficient
to be polymathic
natmanprime 1 year ago
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i am a humanist without this term ... to be more free ? :)
a3laaaa 1 year ago
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a3laaaa 2 years ago
Win 500 dollars, eh? Bling Bling.... This video seems to be a bad representation of a set of values when at the end, it just sins to capitalist morals.
AlAtar360 2 years ago
So, a prize for good work = capitalist morals?
How so?
Back when I lived in the Soviet Union (=not capitalism), we had cash prizes too...
levpi 2 years ago
I'm not against pay for good work, of course. :)
I just found the contradiction striking. I'm all for humanist values, by the way. :)
AlAtar360 2 years ago
*these values are subject to change at anytime without notification.
lol.
Jakeblood240 2 years ago
Not a humanist but like them
TaxTheChurchPetition 2 years ago
ploovi01 echos many of my own sentiments. Religion is not a central aspect of humanism. You can be a theist and a humanist. It is not mutually exclusive. It gets tiring having to explain what humanism actually is after having it so thoroughly trounced upon by atheist propaganda. I am a fairly atheistic agnostic, but my religious views have nothing to do with my humanistic views. I believe in the Spinoza method of separation, not these people's, as it's merely an atheistic tyranny. ie religious.
aacjonathan 2 years ago
Humanist Values = Human Advancement
DesiHumanist 2 years ago 7
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Anticapitalistt 2 years ago
Clearly, 90-second videos and sound bite responses are not the best way to present any philosophy, religion, or faith. Humanism is widely misunderstood, and this video doesn't help. Humanists generally agree that organized religion is not required to be an ethical, and compassionate person or society. But Humanists are most certainly not all atheists. Faith is a natural and healthy part of the human experience, and Humanism itself presents, not an anti-religion, but a secular faith.
ploovi01 2 years ago
The humanist has no notion of "rights" period. They coerce the planet into worshiping their institutions through massive licensing laws, compulsory school attendance/college accreditation, and gun control. They viscously attempt to assert that man's institutions are all powerful and all knowing and have a right to rule over an individual. This is, of course, regardless of what the human can achieve. Humanism is a cancer on life and scientific pursuit and discovery.
numberonesurvivor75 2 years ago
Yeah... but not as "visciously" as we attempt to assert individuals' right to control the institutions. The more power is given to the government, the more control of the government must be given to the citizens to ensure that the power is wielded only for the good of the citizens and not as a force of oppression. See Norway, Sweden, and Denmark for prime examples of the government working for the good of the people.
Dentarthurdent54 2 years ago
Who/what are a bunch of smooth talking attorneys and politicians to declare what "good" is or what constitutes "the people." They're "Democracies" in one, Voltairean sense sure, the majority rule. However, a dictatorship by a majority is a dictatorship nonetheless. It doesn't matter if millions of innocents are killed by a majority of more millions or by one lunatic. Socialist countries' governments impose on autodidacts' rights of merit often, not to mention murder through "abortion."
numberonesurvivor75 2 years ago
Unfortunately, you have a skewed view of what humanism is. It's not your fault, it's the humanists that aren't who are at fault. It troubles me greatly that the humanistic tradition has been so thoroughly trounced upon here. I would suggest you take a look at renaissance humanism on up. you'll find this flavor of humanism is just a perversion. There was even a "movement" in Northern Europe known as Christian Humanism in the 16th century. I'll leave you with this. Secular is not atheist. Far from
aacjonathan 2 years ago
Humanists make crappy videos.
comicfl 2 years ago
See this article for information about Capitalism in Google -
"Why Do Intellectuals Oppose Capitalism ? "
by Robert Nozick
electricink10 2 years ago
Humanist Values = Mental health :)
a3laaaa 2 years ago
'The significant thing is that rationalist, humanist man began by saying that Christianity was not rational enough. Now he has come around in a wide circle and ended as a mystic - though a mystic of a special kind. He is a mystic with nobody there... finding his answers upstairs [significance and meaning] by a leap away from rationality and away from reason' Francis Shaeffer
isaacsace 3 years ago
Think Globally, Act Locally
a3laaaa 3 years ago
Great video
aZeroGodist 3 years ago
... But scientific worldview
for example sociology Right?
a3laaaa 3 years ago
good video.
FactVsReligion 3 years ago
_Do you try to live an ethical and fulfilling life without religious belief?
_Do you think science and reason lead to more reliable knowledge than faith?
_Do you support secular government and an open society that guarantees human rights for all?
If you answered "yes" to these questions, you might be one of the millions of humanists on Earth -- people who live meaningful, fulfilling lives based on reason and compassion.
a3laaaa 3 years ago 2
"If you answered "yes" to these questions, you might be one of the millions of humanists on Earth -- people who live meaningful, fulfilling lives based on reason and compassion."
"I have made a donation in your name to THE HUMAN FUND." George Costanza
bornagain001 3 years ago
Looks like extreme liberalism to me I dont know. its like not humanist its just extreme left.
jimmyphack 3 years ago
a3laaaa 3 years ago 2
I have all those believes but i'm also religious
Trudragon88 3 years ago
I am Humanist, but I will not deny that a lot of my influence came from Christianity. But I also read Lao Tzu and Buddism. I embrace and respect many of those teachings. However, I do not believe there is a divine spirit watching over me. I also believe when your dead....that's it.....over. which makes me even more of a Humanist, why wait for death to find peace. I don't believe we ever will find it "en mass" - create your own little pocket of resistance and enjoy life and your friends.
RitmoNo1 3 years ago 3
does anyone really 'know,' what will happen after you die, do you really know if there is a god, no, you believe, have faith, feel, etc.
i don't 'know that there is a god, nor do i 'know' that there isn't one, or many for that matter. I'm just saying that we cant tear each other apart off our, beliefs, a.k.a. guesses, we don't know. there is no way we can know. the only thing we can do is live our life to our fullest and do something good in the world. Not, kill each other over this nonsense.
alexbloore 3 years ago 2
The "Science vs. Religion" debate is a false binary. Read some Heidegger.
Stirner123 3 years ago
i am a humanist.
and YES WE DO HAVE MORALS.
morals are not given to you at birth and 'god' does not judge wether you are a good person or not.
society is the real 'god'.
i have morals. i am a humanist.
tosaveme 4 years ago 5
@tosaveme LOL, you have no morals outside what God gave us. What YOU have is survival tactics because you can change them depending on the situation.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 well, i just proved my point.. so, again your supid.. and the morals of the average athiest and agnostic is enormous compared to the greed driven predjudice christian faith
raztis1 1 year ago
@raztis1 I highly advise you NOT to learn things from tinwiki or other loon websites. Atheism is a plague that must be destroyed. And WILL be destroyed.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 oh, there we go. i prove my point, and you shut down and call me a liar... yup.. your a christian alright. no real point, just fanatical banter..
owned...
raztis1 1 year ago
@raztis1 Atheists HAVE no morals at all. They are subhuman maggots.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 wow... so the christian sais athiests have no morals, then calls them maggots.wow real moral there pal. athiests believe in being good to people for the hopes of equal treatment, they dont discriminate against a people or race, they dont kill in the name of anything. christians on the other hand have killed millions upon millions, discriminate even today, force their beliefs on others. and then refuse to follow these ame beliefs ecause they think they can pray it away. morals?
raztis1 1 year ago
@raztis1 Atheists are not human. By their OWN definition they are no better than insects. Also, atheism has killed FAR more than anything...fact. Also, I do not discriminate against people of any religion, race, color, etc etc......Atheism does however....
Sorry, you lose, subhuman.,
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 what the fuck r u talking about? do you just make shit up as you go along? atheism hasnt killed anyone, because atheism doesnt have a belief structure to drive someone to do anything. christianity has killed over 150 million people..fact. and the whole atheists r racist puke, again your a moron, because athiests has nothing to do with any of that shit, its simply the belief that religion is incorrect. too bad its obvious that your to stupid to understand any of this.
raztis1 1 year ago
@raztis1 You're wrong but have fun living in your dreamworld. Atheism killed millions. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot.........
Deal with it. And if atheism hasn't done anything bad, as you ignorantly claim, it hasn't done ANY good either.
Atheism, promises nothing, is nothing, offers nothing.....
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 wow, your starting to get it.. your correct.. athiesm HASNT done anything good or bad, atheism means nothing more than "you dont believe in a god... nothing more, u cant use it for good or bad. u cant say im killing in the name of athiesm, and u cant say im feeding the hungry in the name of athiesm, it has no code, or expectation. wow..ive actually taught a sheep something.. feelin pretty good. hitler was catholic soo take him off, and pol killed cause he was crazy not cuz athiest
raztis1 1 year ago
@raztis1 atheism killed...period. hilter and the rest. no argument. and atheism is a disease.
if you are a TRUE atheist, you are no better than bacteria.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Yet atheism is more peaceful than your shit religion (whatever cult you have subscribed to). And Hitler was a christian.
JustRockinMan 1 year ago
@JustRockinMan Atheism isn't peaceful at all. Either you claim it is NOTHING or that it is something that Hitler (yeah, he was atheist), Mao, Polt Pot, Stalin all used to MURDER millions.
Atheism is a plague.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 So they murdered in the name of nothing then. I see. Atheism is more peaceful than any religion out there. Atheists don't kill in the name of a "god" like the 5748535783953534587 religions that are out there do. End of story. And Hitler was raised as a christian, it was the christian values that was pumped into his head as a young boy, not atheism. Get a grip and wake up.
JustRockinMan 1 year ago
@JustRockinMan Hitler was not Christian. He used religion, like so many other twisted leaders, to get people to follow him.
Atheism is a disease. Atheists don't kill in the name of anything, sure, but they still kill with atheism pumped in their heads...........it is not I who needs to "get a grip". Atheism is devoid of morals and ethics....only has animalistic survival tactics at best.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2
I'm an atheist, and what you say is not true. It;s bigotry. This is why atheists generally don't like Christians. You claim we're amoral monsters because we don't believe as you do.
Zamboro 1 year ago
@Zamboro Atheism is a disease. And atheists generally don't like Christians? Are there statistics to back that up?
Atheists are immoral, subhuman and immoral.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2
The fact that you can name a handful of murderous atheists means nothing, they all had black hair, maybe that's the connection, no wait, I've got it, none of them were Australian, that must be it. The fact is that not one of them gave atheism as the reason for what they did, MANY have murdered in the name of religion. There's no correlation between atheism and mass murder and certainly no evidence of causality, this argument is completely fallacious.
BabeReport 1 year ago
@JustRockinMan EDIT...Pol Pot
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
Nice video:-) It is stupid to believe that you need a religion to have values. I believe that MANY atheists are good people.
SJP3793 4 years ago
"I believe that MANY atheists are good people."
YOU ARE CORRECT and I'm a Christian. I know several atheists who are wonderful people. They just won't make it to heaven.
bornagain001 4 years ago
who cares
ulsterramsey 4 years ago
I do and God does. That's why He sent His son to die on a cross.
bornagain001 4 years ago
I dont believe that sorry, if i dont exist after death i dont care
ulsterramsey 4 years ago
"if i dont exist after death i dont care"
The problem is that you WILL EXIST after death. There is a Heaven and a Hell and there will be a Judgment Day for all of us. You, me, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mohammad, the Pope..all of us will face Christ who died for us.
bornagain001 4 years ago
that really doesnt worry me because i live through hell everyday i cant imagine how it could be any worse than this.
ulsterramsey 4 years ago
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God,heaven,hell is a delusion.
Todays god is but one of the many gods man has created throughtout the ages. This was man`s only way to live with the fear of the
unknown. Man`s creation gradually evolved into
today`s god.
maurieer 4 years ago
you seem nice and seem to care but religion has not worked for me.
ulsterramsey 4 years ago
Anne....I not talking about joining a "religion". As you probably know, the "religious leaders" of the day were the ones that had Christ crucified. Every thing He spoke was contrary to "their way". Christ wants to have a personal relationship with you. Christ wants to removes the heavy burdens you carry. Christ wants to fellowship with you daily. John 3:16
bornagain001 4 years ago
What he isn't telling you is that Christ wants you to eat his flesh and drink his blood and close your eyes and talk to yourself.
Zekkron 3 years ago
Nobody talks so constantly about God as those who insist that there is no God.
Heywood Broun
bornagain001 3 years ago
Because nothing is so insulting to truth and to humanity as the premise of a so-called god.
Let your god answer then.
MilesB1975 3 years ago 3
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"The FOOL has said in his heart,There is no God."
Psalm 14:1
bornagain001 3 years ago
One line from a book written by bronze-age sheepherders can't make up for a complete lack of evidence.
MilesB1975 3 years ago
Which bronze age sheephearders do you speak of? Matthew was a tax collector who worked for the government. Paul also worked for the government rounding up Christians for persecution. Luke was a physician. David and Solomon were both Kings. Peter was a fisherman. MOSES...was a part of Pharaoh's family until he killed a soldier.
bornagain001 3 years ago
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tzara472 3 years ago
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to bornagain001:
whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. - Jesus, Matt. 5:22
tzara472 3 years ago
When logic and reason fails, just quote scripture!
PiratesVersusNinjas 3 years ago 3
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The most important things an atheist can do to protect his all consuming sin is to discount 1) the existence of God 2) the validity of the Bible 3) the reality of HELL and 4)the certainty of Judgment. If there IS NO GOD, all things are PERMISSIBLE.
bornagain001 3 years ago
It has not worked because you have not made a total commitment to Christ. You are still hanging on t something. Christ can not begin His miraculous work until you surrender all. The first thing you must do is find a good Bible preaching church. google Jeremiah 29:13
bornagain001 4 years ago
i ended up back in hospital again and nearly died but at no time did i want to have a relationship with this fictional character.i would have gone without complaint.
ulsterramsey 4 years ago
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." Matthew 7:13
bornagain001 4 years ago
there is nothing after death ill be glad of the peace
ulsterramsey 4 years ago
"there is nothing after death"
HOW do you know that?
bornagain001 4 years ago
because i died and was brought back i saw the other side as you call it and as soon as i saw it i remembered it so i know it is true.
ulsterramsey 4 years ago
How do you know there is?
veldman37 4 years ago
"How do you know there is?"
Hebrews 9:27
bornagain001 4 years ago
The Bible is not a valid source to quote.
veldman37 4 years ago
"The Bible is not a valid source to quote."
and according to your "personal opinion", what is a valid source to quote from concerning life after death?
bornagain001 3 years ago
I think it's more than my "personal opinion" that there is no book with all the answers, especially the Bible. Some things will forever remain a mystery. If you are comforted by the thought that there is heaven and hell, that's good. It doesn't change the fact that we will never know for sure if they exist or not.
veldman37 3 years ago 3
"It doesn't change the fact that we will never know for sure if they exist or not."
WE WILL ALL know for sure. When we die.
bornagain001 3 years ago
According to the book you "personally believe" is the correct one.
veldman37 3 years ago 3
youve lost your mind
you might as well say "we will all know for sure that unicorns exist" that may be so but before then , dont go on acting as though they do exist
BreadWinner06 3 years ago
Unless, of course, knowledge stops at death.
Zekkron 3 years ago
How do you know there isn't?
Jon 7:41 (am)
ogicabp4u 3 years ago
all that is important is this life if everyone thought like this this would be paradise.
ulsterramsey 4 years ago
yes...exactly...and death to anyone that doesnt!!! As a non-thesic I say if it WORKS 4 u then do it. I dont need a reason to be christian BUT Im not christian therfore I dont need a reason.
ogicabp4u 4 years ago
exactly they call themseves christian but all i feel is hate and ignorance
ulsterramsey 4 years ago
1st sentence is sarcastic...just trying to get you to see that others of different sects and cults might think the same as you. Different people have different ideas on what paradise is / might be and how to achieve it.
IMHO your comment is idealistic and a little narrow.
ogicabp4u 4 years ago
i am not narrow i dont see people as a religion i see them firstly as people i was talking about the christians who arent tolerent of any other religion i thought you would have understood that.
ulsterramsey 4 years ago
i c. u being sarky too. sometimes a lot of 'arguments'' on youtube are over semantics...cos you cant see the other persons body language or hear there tone of voice etc. Peace.
ogicabp4u 4 years ago
peace to you too
ulsterramsey 4 years ago
Thanx, I am a long standing member of the ACLU and we are at the forefront in defeating it.
BeatBuddy 4 years ago
The next problem for you is that "millions" have accepted Christ as their savior. Jesus "paid the price" for their iniquity and sin. Why would a good and fair Judge, release those who have not "paid the price" since so many more have?
bornagain001 4 years ago
In order for there to be an afterlife we'd have to survive the death of our brains. There is no '100% correct' for anyone. It is highly improbable that a creative god/supernatural force exists, so I live my live on the assumption that it does not exist. I won't go into the arguments that you've probably heard a million times and rejected because you "have faith". It's not a level playing field for a debate.
jannakal 4 years ago
Everything you are exist within your "soul". When the body dies (including the brain) the soul remains. God designed the soul to last for eternity. The Bible tells us that we will all have a form of a body in which we recognize one another but the soul will be the same one we have here in this life.
bornagain001 4 years ago
I'm a Christian and I believe Humanist have values and morals. The problem is, God is looking for Salvation and repentance for breaking His Law. Being moral and having values will not get you into Heaven.
bornagain001 4 years ago
That's not really a problem if there is no heaven, is it?
jannakal 4 years ago