Huckabee: A 'big tent' will 'kill the conservative movement'

[chukmaty]

Looks like the troll are out in full force.

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I think people generally took Huckabee too much to the extreme. He is not against having an accepting party, but that party must have core values with a majority agreeing with most of them.

It is big enough for Giuliani, Steele, Romney, Huckabee, Paul, Palin, and all those in between in it. It cannot be the party that stands for nothing to include everyone, I think that is what Huckabee is saying here.

[Rushtrdamus]

Thanks for announcing your presence.

Huck is saying in order to be part of his party, you must believe as he does.

Pro-choice views, pro-immigrant views and separation of church and state views will NOT be allowed.

Ask Megan McCain about the tolerance of HER party?

Who gets to choose the CORE values?

Who decides what is OK in the party?

The GOP put out a hit on Romney, McCain, and Paul. In NY23, the GOP woman was assassinated for her moderate views, proving what's happening.

[chukmaty]

Actually I actually am a part of the platform creation process like thousands of other GOP members who take the time to show up to caucus events.

Megan McCain is a fine person, but she kind of went on a crusade against social conservatives herself a while back, she hardly is innocent of sharing her opinion.

Huckabee communicated that the party has to stand for something and not dissolve all of its platform to placate the media and the left, it has to have core beliefs.

[Rushtrdamus]

We all are aprt of the platform creation. ALL americans can choose.

Reagen wanted a big tent because he knew that if you cherry pick people based on certain views, your party will never have enough people to be able to elect anyone. NY23 is a perfect example.

If your core beliefs are only held by a minority of people, how does that help you? I understand standing for something, but it's hard to help decide if you're not at the table.

It's called compromise, and has to be done.

[chukmaty]

I agree with you dude, but Reagan's big tent still orbited around the commons values. I think I was pretty clear by naming a diverse number of Republicans that there is room for disagreement. Huckabee has actually been a big advocate for what you are saying, disagree on some things, but recognize the arty stands for something. We are the party of smaller government, national security, and to a lesser extent "values" like life and marriage. Some may differ on one or two of those.

[Rushtrdamus]

The party of smaller Govt? Since when?

National security? You mean LESS national security? Cause lately the GOP has dropped the ball on that one.

And once the GOP starts living by the "values" you profess to believe in, THEN you can claim to be the party of values.

Right now it looks like you'd rather keep the guys that cheat and screw around and kick out the good people that just don't agree with you.

Eventually your party will admit it's problems and clean itself up.

[chukmaty]

When you say "We are part of platform creation" you are wrong if you do not consider yourself a part of the party and therefore do not go to a caucus or get involved. It does not matter what you think the GOP should be if you are not a part of it. Go form the platform of a party you agree with.

If you are a nihilist with no values, you are not justified in discounting the values of others. If have values, I am sure that someone who knows you is aware of where you fall short of them.

[Rushtrdamus]

WHAT? When this country was formed, did they decide what the parties would be first, or after we decided what kind of Govt. we'd have?

Of course we didn't choose parties first. Our founders knew that if they tried to found a country by arguing about the minutia, it couldn't be done.

You are a perfect example of what they wanted to avoid. Dipshits who think that this country should be the way THEY want it, NOT the way WE want it.

I'm a vet, what values do you have?

[chukmaty]

Your an idiot, your ideas make no coherent sense. "We" is a compilation of you, me, and everyone else. A party caucus is a process by which people sit down to debate and whittle ideas down. What "we" want is probably what you want.

Glad you have values, never said you didn't, please stop degrading others and exchange ideas instead for other to consider instead of just calling names.

[Rushtrdamus]

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that you separated yourself from the rest of americans.

You must concider yourself a republican FIRST and an american SECOND. How sad. I am an american first and an independant second.

I will continue to call out those that put party first. That is what's best for thic country. WE need to do what's best for US, NOT what's best for our political party.

Our founders did not devide themselves during the founding, they came together.

Understand that?

[chukmaty]

Actually the founders were very divided, they debated very vigorously, this much can be seen in their writings. Your problem seems to be with debate, with people having different ideas, and you also seem to be against freedom to express ideas which are different than their own.

I have different beliefs than you, you do not represent "we." One nation that was united in the fashion you describe was Nazi Germany, "we" worked out real well didn't it?

No, I am happy I live in a nation of division.

[Rushtrdamus]

Yeah that makes sooo much sense. The guy aguing for MORE voices is the one against debate. Are you kidding?

You do understand that as we speak, I'm DEBATING, you dipshit. I'm so much aginst it that I'm doing it????

Did your mom have any kids that lived?

Wait, the NAZI's were united in one belief???? Holy shit you're dumb. Nazi Germany was a DICTATORSHIP, meaning one man decided what the country did.

The Nazi's also expelled those that didn't believe as they did, just like the GOP.

[chukmaty]

"The Nazi's also expelled those that didn't believe as they did, just like the GOP."

Yep, you are trollin. I think you are purposefully trying not to make any sense, just to be annoying.

Have a good one.

[Rushtrdamus]

Well, I guess you just don't have the capacity to think. The Nazis didn't believe in a big tent either. JUST LIKE YOU.

Was that clear enough for you?

You can't defend intolerance by pointing out tolerance. Look at the title of the vid. Huck is making a choice between being a conservative or allowing opposing views in the party. It doesn't sound like he wants other opinions.

[chukmaty]

So, not only are you disingenuous (after all, I think that "we" will need to unite around your ideas and not someone else), you have no regard for history (the founders were a very divisive bunch), and you are not a realist (people are a diverse bunch, and cannot agree on everything).

[Rushtrdamus]

My point exactly. They were a very divisive bunch but realized the best way to get anything done, was to compromise and do what was best for THE COUNTRY and not what was best for the individuals involved.

If our founders though as you do, ther's no way in hell they could have founded this country. The Slavery issue alone would have prevented our founding.

The fact is that YOU have revised history to fit your beliefs.

Big Tent does not mean One belief. it means many.

[chukmaty]

But they did not just compromise, they bloodied each other and aggressively fought.

Many beliefs mean disagreeing sometimes.

I am also not against compromising, and Huckabee is not for excluding everyone who is different than him. There is a need to stand for something though.

[Rushtrdamus]

you're right, they argued, but they came toegther and did what's best for the country. What Huck's saying is the opposite. He wants what's best for the extreme right of the GOP at the expense of his party.

Even you should be able to read the title. A big tent(GOP) will kill the conservative(part of the GOP) movement.

He is advocating that we save the small minority view over the entire party.

"Don't cut off your nose to spite your face"

[chukmaty]

NO!

THEY!

DID!

NOT!

ALL!

COME!

TOGETHER!

Crack a fucking history book. Many of the founders not only disagreed, but they remained divided until the day they died, with a decision being come to not through agreement but through one winning a political battle over the other.

Huckabee is clearly referring to the GOP's abandonment of some of its core values, a party that stands for nothing might as well not be a party. Huckabee is certainly "big tent" in the same vein as Reagan was.

[Rushtrdamus]

Give me a list of the ones that refused to sign the DOI? You're proving my point everytime you open your mouth.

The FACT that we have documents signed by the founders PROVES that they worked out their problems and COMPROMISED. You fucking idiot.

Name the core values the GOP abandoned? The values they ababdoned have nothing to do with the moderates in the party and everything to do with the extreme right.

Bullshit, if up to Huck, he'd drum out every social conservative. Not Reagan.

[chukmaty]

Fiscal responsibility is the one thing most people agree got sacrificed for power the last eight years. That has nothing to do with the extreme right.

[Rushtrdamus]

Wait, let me try to get my mind around this.

You say that Fiscal responsibilty was sacrificed JUST in the last 8 years??

You agree that it was done for power, and the people that did it were from the extreme right, but somehow it had nothing to do with the extreme right.

What reality do you live in?

Or what drugs do you uses?

Cause dude, you have your own spin on the facts.

[chukmaty]

No, the "extreme right" was the only thing that kept the Republicans from being like the Democrats. As disappointed as I am in the mushy liberalism dis[played by the Republicans, I realize that if we had been under control of the extreme left of the democrats, like we are now, things would have been infinitely worse.

[Rushtrdamus]

Really? Worse than 2 un-needed wars? Worse than becoming a nation on par with the taliban? Worse than wiretapping it's own people?

The left was in control in the 90's, how much worse was it then? Hell, the left was in control during WWII, the right was in control during the late 60's and most of the 70's Which was a worse time to live in?

I think when a POTUS orders the firwbombing of the HQ of his rivals, we've reached the lowest low.

Read a history book, son.

[chukmaty]

The founders only settled on ideas after long, ferocious struggle. The way we engage in the is struggle today is partially through a two party system. We would be divided into even more groups if it were not for the style of government we had. Frankly I would not mind a more parliamentary style government.

[Rushtrdamus]

No shit! They settled, AFTER they argued.

Today, the way the right wanys to settle, is to just exclude the moderates from the debate. Those moderates will find a home somewhere, most likely in a less extreme form of the GOP.

HELLODUMBASS, Big tent?

WTF?

The extreme right seems to think they are bigger than they are, THEY ARE A MINORITY of their own party.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, exclude the rest of your party.

Make NY23 nationwide. LOL

[chukmaty]

The conservative wing of the Republican party has been its foundation for about 50 years, even this last cycle in which it was its weakest since the conservatives were the scapegoats the Great Depression they still were a dominant force which lead to Sarah Palin making McCain a contender again despite the media hating her.

Huckabee was against Hoffman in NY 23, you are misinformed.

Your original premise was against parties and how the founders were against that, when that wasn't true.

[Rushtrdamus]

Used to be is more like it. The world is moving away from the silly notion that GOD is in charge.

OMG, McCain would have done better had he not picked a damn idiot. What part of THEY lost, do you not understand?

Palin weakened McCain's chances. I would have voted for McCain had he not picked her.

The very Big tent that Huch is railing against would have saved NY23 for the GOP, I don't care who Huck was against, he's against a big tent NOW.

[chukmaty]

Nowhere do I want to exclude anyone from the debate, you are the one who wants everyone to agree and not party up into groups of like minded colleagues.

You cited the founders as an example, when it is they who set the precedent for party politics that was to stay consistent throughout our history up until now. Party politics is the result of our non parliamentary republican democratic system. Those parties have processes inherent to them which work out their ideology democratically.

[Rushtrdamus]

What the fuck does a big tent mean? It means allowing people with differing views in the party, dumbass. Opposing a big tent MEANS excluding some people.

Bullshit, I want good debate, you can't have a debate with a like minded person if they aren't allowed in your event.

The system set up by our founders had more to with what united us, than it did with what devided us. Now, people like you want it the opposite way.

My premise was to allow opposing view points in our parties.

[chukmaty]

You are taking one statement out of context, just as you are showing a complete lack of knowledge in regard to US history.

[Rushtrdamus]

At the Constitution convention, WHO protested the signing? Who was the leader of NOT signing it?

BTW, MY history IS the U.S, history, My family was here 160 years before the Constitution, and will be here until we all die. So don't lecture me about U.S. history, my family made it.

How far back can you NAME your G-fathers? 100 years, maybe less? Try 390 years.

Waiting on the list of those that refused to sign?

[chukmaty]

It was kept top secret, Rhode Island held out for a long time. Patrick Henry said that he "smelled] a rat." Read the federalist papers, read up on the debates between Hamilton and Jefferson (you seem to forget that one of our founders was gunned down in a duel). No, they had not high and mighty visions of unity, they fought tooth and nail. That is how a republican democracy is supposed to work, if everyone agree and capitulates on their values thins stop working.

[Rushtrdamus]

Oh, my mistake, I must have read the DOI wrong.

WE the people.. of the UNITED states. In order to form a more perfect UNION.

Wow, how could I have not believed you? LOL

You realize that duels were commonplace in those days, right?

Keep talking dude, the more you type the more you prove that I'm right. This vid is about the far right ejecting the moderates in their party to exclude their views.

Good thing our founders weren't that extreme.

[chukmaty]

Just because we are one nation, does not mean I have to agree with you on everything, are you really that stupid? Oh wait, you are. I am pretty sure the declaration of independence was to form a nation were individuals could form their own opinions.

The process you are bashing is the process by which we have a chance to reach compromise, that is for better or worse a party system which comes out of the form of government laid out in our constitution.

You probably never took a poli sci class.

[Rushtrdamus]

NO FUCKING SHIT, ASSHOLE. WTF have I been saying this entire fucking time?

Your names not Trig is it?

How the fuck do reach a compromise with someone that is barred from being there? You can't bargain with an empty chair, you dumbass.

rememeber, I want a big tent, you oppose it.

I love our system of Govt, you hate it. You want your party to contain ONLY the views set forth by SOME. I want ANY person in my party to have the same right to be heard.

[chukmaty]

Huckabee wants to bar no one. Your premise was the founders did not believe in parties or division but worked together when they were divided and did form parties.

It is you who wants one party not to stand for anything and therefor be barred from sharing a coherent perspective. Safe to say that this discussion has run its coarse, I stand by my original claim that you are incoherent, illiterate, and confused.

[Rushtrdamus]

Dude you must have one huge set of balls to presume to tell me what my premise was. My premise was clear(to all but you), that our founders overcame their differences to found this country.

Define standing for something? Are you talking one thing or many? The fact is that many moderate republicans have been asked to leave the party because they don't tow the party line.

I stand by my claim that you're a dumbass.

Now I know why McDonalds has to put "carefull, hot liquid", on coffee cups.

[chukmaty]

To say they did not have political parties, stand for values, and even shoot at each other and engage in everything you claim Huckabee was doing here is preposterous. "Standing for something" is supporting at least some of the main planks of the Republican platform which defines Huckabee's party, in this context. You seem to be against a party having a platform, or against parties, even though that platform was built by the same democratic process as the DOI and the CotUS.

[Rushtrdamus]

Nothing i've typed shows i'm against our system. In fact, I've shown that I'm for extreme acceptance inour system, you on the other hand have shown nothing but disdain for our system. Our system has evolved since it's beginning

The republican party was not formed until 1846.

The dems, 1792.

The federalists, also 1792.

How many parties were there in 1776 while the DOI was being written? NONE!

So much for your theory about parties deciding the DOI.

[chukmaty]

Political parties are a natural consequence of the system laid down by the constitution, and our founders were heavily involved in their founding. If we would have had a more parliamentary system we would have more than two parties with multiple parties making up coalitions.

I also was contesting your view that the founders were not involved in parties, not only were they, they created the landscape upon which our two party system as existed.

[Rushtrdamus]

I gave you the dates on which our parties were formed, MANY years after the constitution and DOI were written. So don't try the bullshit.

Our founders hadn't devided themselves into parties at the time of our founding, it WAS more like a parliamentary system. They didn't create the parties until 1792 16 years AFTER the DOI.

But by all means, don't let the facts deter you from thinking otherwise.

I'll bet your IQ and age are the same. LOL

[chukmaty]

If you want views included, why are you being dishonest about Huckabee's view.

I think they call that a Red Herring.

[Rushtrdamus]

READ THE VIDS HEADLINE you MORON!

"A big tent will kill the conservative movement"

If a big tent is when you allow all views in your party, THEN HE DOESN"T WANT ALL VIEWS IN HIS PARTY.

WTF? Dude, how fucking stupid are you?

I'm being punked, that has to be what's happening, cause there is no way in hell that someone this stupid can type.

Please tell me people this dumb don't exist, please!

[chukmaty]

Your whole argument is that Huckabee is keeping people out of the debate, he is not. Secondly that the founders all united and were not divisive.

Two untrue statements, like I said, conversation has run its coarse. You are nothing but a troll.

[Rushtrdamus]

No, I said he wants to keep people out of the debate. BIG difference.

Wrong, I said they didn't agree on everything and STILL came together to form this great country.

Your entire post was untrue, and calling you a troll, would be an insult to trolls.

[Rushtrdamus]

Wow, between LOU17234 and nosenseJOE, it looks like the right-wing needs a few more ceturies of evolution before working on that HS diploma.

LOU18765 had no idea that Bush used to say the very words he's trying to belittle me for. LOL

And dipshitJOE is now claiming that Neo-cons aren't alike, but wants all the ones NOT like him out of the party? WTF?

4 words tro dupe a Neo-con: I am a christian. Say that and get the dipshit vote.

[lou1785]

Nucular?? (LOL)

Misunderestimate??? Is that even a word?

Behold the Left's "Useful Idiot"

Admissions free - but Darwin weeps

[lou1785]

What mission? What outfit? What time? - Nevermind - when I was young I had an eloborate imagination and a set of GI Joes too.

Okay, enough of that - lets look at this brilliant exxerpt for shits and giggles:

"If you're part of the majority, why did Palin lose?"

Hmmmmmm, I dunno - maybe it was a vote against Bush, something different, influence via popular sentiment -change I can search for in my sofa?

However-with all your "Army missions" past and present;(lol) Biden fit the bill

[Rushtrdamus]

And, you say I'M all over the place?

I asked you to prove your majority staus, and you masterbate?

When a person asks you to prove something, they would like some sort of knowledge. "Hmmmmm I dunno" Doesn't feed the bulldog.

Next time try using facts. Hell, next time try using english. LOL

[lou1785]

wtfoof

You're embarassing yourself - however its funny seeing little Maos (aka "useful idiots) get all pumped up and scream at the wall.

We've been there, done that. - still funny watching a naive spastic wax philosophical about "nothing new" or of consequence. Clever took a holiday long ago - you're late to the party.....nothing to see here.

Love the "anti" rant too - such an easily malleable mind processed thru bass-ackward institutions defines the "useful idiot" - tragic yet hysterical

[wtfoof]

I'm thinking he would die for a cheeseburger about now!

[wtfoof]

The Huckters is getting fatter every time I see him. Soon he'll be the fatty he was before everyone thought he had such will power.

[DillonX]

Mike Huckabee, Sarah Palin, & Michele Backmann & other true conservative creationists need to form their own party AND PUT PRAYER BACK IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

[EMitrani1]

lol and 2 of them are complete idiots. i like mike because he sticks to his beliefs. but prayer in public school come on not everyone believes the same thing. if you want your kids to pray in school send them to a religious private school of your choice.

[wtfoof]

Oh please let that happen! Not the prayer in school part but that they form their own party. We'll call it the "Who Would Jesus hate" party

[EnhancementSmoker]

Yep, thats why the conservatives won NY-23...

oh wait...thats not what happend. they drove the moderate republican out and lost a historically conservative district, with a hard right conservative...

yea...keep ur tent small Huck...and keep losing elections...

[lou1785]

There's alot of people posting here with a running theme which disturbs me. Its this underlying disdain for candidates who have religous beliefs and values.

While I understand their are those who disagree w/religion - it shouldn't define the candidate, because it probably won't. It doesn't make political sense.

First off -Pro-Life candidates will not impose an edict to end all abortions. Second -They are not Crusaders who want to impose a Theocratic Republic here or globally.

Please get real.

[Rushtrdamus]

@lou1785

If a candidate defines him or herself by their religion, I will not ignore their religion.

Religion has NO business in politics, and that's how we were founded.

The last thing this country needs is a zealot in control of our Nukes.

Please, if what you say is true, the Taliban wouldn't exist. Religious people tend to believe that THEIR religion is the only true religion, and EVERYONE else is crazy.

I'm gonns take a guess that you're a churchie?

[wtfoof]

When you speak of "Values" that scares me. Hitler had values. Not the type values that embraces humanity but values that foster hate and murder. Your Holy book, the Christian Bible, talks more about killing than love.

[sendlovethere]

Actually, Huckabee is wrong on this. The reason conservatives welcome everyone and conservatism is like a big tent is because the conservative principles that this nation's founded on will help EVERYONE!!! Everyone belongs in the conservative experience because conservative, freedom-protecting, prosperity-producing, dream-building ideas will work for EVERYONE!!!

Join us in FREEDOM!!!

JOIN US IN LOVE!!!

JOIN US IN EQUALITY!!!

WE ARE ONE PEOPLE!!

[wtfoof]

Freedom protecting? You mean like anti-gay legislation, anti-civil right, pro-war, forbidding inter-racial marriage, anti-womens rights, anti-choice, pro slavery, anti-immigration, anti-health care, fought against Medicare for the elderly, a 40 hour work week, child welfare laws, minimum wage, and anything anti-Obama? You mean that kind of freedom? Look up the word conservative. It means maintaining the status quo, anti change! Freedoms expand the human experience not impede it.

[WWJCashD]

and thats why you weren't even close in winning your party's nomination.

Try the teabaggers fuckabee

[CommonSenseJoe]

He is 100% absolutely RIGHT!

[Rushtrdamus]

@CommonSenseJoe

Either Huck is right, or Reagan was.  They're on opposite sides on this one.

100% abolutely? Nobody is EVER 100% absolutely right, dumbass.

[CommonSenseJoe]

They are both right. The vast majority of Americans are conservative. We don't need to change our values and morals to attract the "independents". McCain demonstrated the folly of that approach.

[Rushtrdamus]

Define vast? 48%?

Define conservative? Fiscal? Social?

McCain showed that by bowing to a minority view, you can lose anyway. Sarah Palin was the reason McCain had no chance, Her pick cost McCain my vote and the vote of many centrists that vote for more than what a person worships

America is made up of many views, your side only wants certain views, therefore your side is un-american.

This country would not exist today without the tolerance of others views.

Common sense my ass.

[lou1785]

Incoherent spin.

Bush league garbage - lets review.

1)"America is made up of many views, your side only wants certain views, therefore your side is un-american."

"So your side has all the answers"?

"Where have you been"?

Explain why - since you haven't.

You've just regurgitated typical & tired Progressive talking points. Lib fodder thru mass media is as old as dust - I want something more from the zombie set.

BTW: Funniest moment: McCain and the minority viewpoint...LOL..whatever

[Rushtrdamus]

No, my side allows all different views, you know BIG TENT?

Where have I been? Well, for several years I served in the Army. In the Army I learned that in order to complete a mission, I had to put aside my personal beliefs for the good of the team.

It would do you some good.

If you're part of the majority, why did Palin lose? When he picked her, she was supposed to bring in the base, what happened?

The base showed up, there just wasn't that many there.

[Rushtrdamus]

Let's review: This vid isn't about the dems not having a big tent, it's about the right. How the hell do you figure I should explain anything to you?

When you figure out how to get more than 1% to show up at a tea bag protest, give me a call, until then STFU.

Nothing funnier than a t-bagger screaming about how many T-baggers there are. LOL

You're supposed to puff up your chest when trying to make yourself look bigger.

Hahahaha

[lou1785]

Dude - STOP!!!

Its soup to nuts with you.

You're an atheistic aggressor in one post. A liberal facist in another. And a patriotic Army guy on "missions" in another.

And for what?!-other than to embarrass yourself?

The Right? Palin? Politics? WTF do you know other than using tired bullet points and exhausting rhetoric? Rational minds have been passing chunks like you through their stool- you're nothing new-nothing clever-just a retread; a drone; a subordinate preaching the faux collective.

[Rushtrdamus]

Wow. all that bullshit and not single statement of substance.

Is that your stratigery? To debate without debating?

Good juck with that.

It would also help to flash your teeth, it's the universal sign for "I'm scary" LOL

[lou1785]

Stratigry - masterbate??

Teeth flashing?

Unaswered questions??

I'll call DYFUS to protect you from youself.

[Rushtrdamus]

Yeah, Ifigured I'd use words you'd understand, you a BUSHISM. LOL

Misunderestimate?

Nucular? Hahahahahahaha

Pretzel? GAAAAG

[CommonSenseJoe]

Conservatism is a set of principles and values. It is applied to every area of life, social and fiscal.

McCain was never going to win. He was picked by the media and then destroyed by the media. His choice of Palin was a bad attempt to get conservatives to accept HIM. No one votes for the bottom of the ticket.

Don't tell me what my side thinks because you have no idea. There are no sides when you are killing over a million unborn children a year for a woman's convenience.

[Rushtrdamus]

Bullshit, Mark Sanford is a conservative. where was his set of priciples and values? Why don't you apply it at his house? LOL

McCain had a better chance without Palin, he just didn't believe it.

Picked by the media? Yeah, that's what that process is called. I thought it was the primaries.

I know what your side thinks, and your last statement proves it.

If you don't like abortion, DON'T HAVE ONE. See, I have no problem with you NOT having an abortion. Why worry about me?

[CommonSenseJoe]

No one is perfect. That does not make principles and values wrong.

McCain realized that he had no chance far too late in the game.

You have no idea how I think. I don't care what you do as long as it does not kill another human being for simply being conceived.

[Rushtrdamus]

Principles and values are evil things if used to dupe a group of idiots. Case in point, LOU1785 couldn't spell cat if you spotted him the C and A.

He thinks that because a person SAYS they're against something they MUST be against it. LOL Waht a FTARD.

Trig is that you? hahahahaha

But killing someone simply because they happen to live in a bad place is OK?

[CommonSenseJoe]

You are not making any sense at all. No one is being "duped". Conservatives are individuals.  They are not all exactly the same.

Who said anything about killing someone who lives in a bad place?

[lou1785]

Quick end to your righteous crapolla

John Edwards!

Go to bed.

[Rushtrdamus]

Oh no, he said John Edwards! Am I now supposed to run?

When did John Edwards ever run on Family values? When did Edwards ever blast someone for Cheating?

The fact is, that Ssanford was one of the loudest critics of Bill Clinton, saying he could not be trusted to hold public office based on his cheating.

Well well, 13 years later it seems the pot has called the kettle black.

A cheater= scum.

A hypocrite cheater= scumsucking sack of shit.

see what happens when you toss stones?

[redwine65]

this person could be our best president since reagan.

[terpis]

He's dead right.

DNC, "New Dem" party leaders sold out the party's core constituencies a long time ago to get right w wall street & "socially liberal" factions of corporate America.

Which leaves lefties & FDR Dems w a whole-lot-of-nothing, & timid majorities that don't command popular respect...these more conservative Dems don't even seem to care if the party stays in power or not! And they fight like lions to ensure nothing visionary is done w that majority.

Huckleberry is right.

[ethalin]

English is not my first language, with that said, what does he mean with "big tent"?

[s1icedbread]

Basically he means 'all encompassing' or 'to include all'. In this particular reference, he explains it by saying, "we can't have this 'big tent' to include every viewpoint".

[ethalin]

OK, thanks! Makes more sense now :)

[loonmaniac]

Damn Jesus freak.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

Lol. Good job Huckabee. Kill your party with your silly dark ages movement so I can enhance mine with my progressive movement.

[ArchieinSC]

Huckabee, (Gomer Pyle's twin brother separated at birth), will be on the ticket with Romney, (when he's not waiting for Jesus somewhere in Missouri), to appease the Southern Baptists. He is an undereducated former pastor who abandoned his "calling" to make money and gain power. I don't have time or space to talk about his son and the ex-Governor's actions with regard to him. Suffice it to say, Huckabee is a reflection of the regionalism and increasing isolation of the Republican party.

[loonmaniac]

Huckabee is good at letting vicious criminals loose.

[LLORT3]

Huck makes a nice veiled jab at Palin and the Tea Party ppl.

[elbethere]

An attitude like his may very well kill the republican party. The fact that it was not big tent in the last 4 years resulted in it loosing the election. John mccain was not allowed to be true to his beliefs. That's why he lost.

[LLORT3]

Correct. GOP is becoming more reactionary after the last 2 big elections, and is digging in against demographic change.

I think when whites become a minority the GOP will maybe realise it has screwed itself out of power.

[tooltalk]

Hey, Huckabee is talking about Ron Paul.

[bigkeys72]

Any commentary from this clown is meaningless. Huckabee's presidential chances are non-existent because he only appeals to evangelicals and Christian statists. I want someone who will cut the size of gov't, cut my taxes, and leave me alone.

[LLORT3]

You will never find a politician who will cut your taxes unless you are very, very rich.

Who do you think pays for USA's occupations of other countries? Hint: it is not the friends of the elites.

[LLORT3]

Taxes cannot be cut during two wars of necessity.

[s1icedbread]

I'm sorry, did you just say TWO wars of necessity? Iraq was not a necessity, it never was. It was only a ploy by Bush to give his VP HUGE profits in the region by employing companies like Haliburton and Blackwater. Cheney was on the board of trustees in Haliburton FYI

[LLORT3]

Heh, I was being sarcastic about the wars of necessity. No wars are necessary, especially the two that are ongoing.

[lou1785]

Too squishy for me - I'd rather take my vote elsewhere, but who's it gonna be? 3 yrs. is a long time, but as of now.....Romney - nope. Huckabee - nope (but if he runs w/fair tax - I could be interested). Palin - nope. - Gingrich - (if he keeps endorsing Rinos) - nope. Pawlenty - mmmmm....nope.

Gawd!! Someone step up here. The countries going in the shi**er!!

[cleal99]

I Strongly Agree with you Huckabee

[stinky125]

He wouldn't have said that if those Washington cops weren't killed...

[airborne373]

Huckabee is a fraud controlled by Richad Haas president of David Rockefeller's CFR.

[gossieuk]

bring on the big tent

[Hubbell42]

I think Huckabee is going to be wearing a big tent since he apparently has no self discipline and ate all the turnips on the cart before he fell off.

[12TattooYou]

Good! Kill the idea of a big tent, then kill the idea of having any movement, then the party is dead and the rest of America can progress! Thank you Fuckabee, you and who's nailin' Palin can take the reigns of the right wing....we libs are counting on it! =)

[Justwosweet]

conservatives are exclusionary. They are the only real Americans. The rest of you who live and work and fight for this country are either immoral or not real Americans. Conservatives are only interested in you if you have the same opinion as the do about everything.

[IssuesAndJustice]

Huckabee isn't saying don't have a big tent, he is saying you can't have a big tent of positions as you won't be standing for anything then. Accept all people but that doesn't mean your party should hold multiple official views on a subject.

[KataVideo]

now, when he says "kill the conservative movement".. does he mean "killed" like those four cops in Tacoma who were killed by a dangerous felon that huckabee released from prison..

or "killed" like those women in Arkansas and Missouri who were raped and murdered by a dangerous felon that huckabee released from prison..?

[wmg111]

Nice career move if you just want to continue to be a fox sanctioned fringe figure. By all means avoid anything which interferes with your 'conservative convictions', but don't then expect to be relevant to the debate.

[BlueSkies360]

Wow, that was great, Huckabee!

[callouschristian]

The "Bigger the Tent" the more likely folks are to catch them when they're doing the brokeback mountain tent move with their pages and associates' grandsons. Choking and rape of women is okay, in the new rules, because at least, in con's eyes, it indicates heterosexuality-violent, yes, but the fact that a baby could get born makes it "God's work".

[RepublicanTorture]

dead as a cop in a donut shop in Huckabee Jesusland.

[stoptherightwing]

"PARDON ME" FUC*ABEE? I know Cop Killers who believe in your "GOD" sure fit under your tent?

The Christian Jihad

Weapons of Mass Destruction!

[Rexcetera]

I hope his argument wins over all the dolts, so that in the next election they get 20 percent of the vote. These people are not just smarmy and repugnant, the lucky thing is that they're stupid.

[IssuesAndJustice]

20%? Gallup poll this year showed 40% of US says they are conservative and 20% said liberal. While 40% isn't enough to win, there are a lot more conservative than there are Republicans so conservatives might be a better base of support than GOP.

[voyeurdug]

Just now, the conservative "message," is: obstruct for the sake of obstructionism. Just say no... to everything.

[Zlibservacratican]

Yeah! Kick out every opposing idea! Then we can stay the same! Old white males who vote in favor of the corporations!

[IssuesAndJustice]

The Dems in the last few election cycles are getting about the same amount of corporate money as GOP. Both parties are for big government / big business.

[LLORT3]

This is true.

But only one party seems to care about minimum wages, unemployment insurance, and health insurance.

The Democrats are much better for the people.