@chrisahn1 worst point ever. Bas is the boss, but anyone can write a forward in a KM book for some cash, plus there is no way he would ever get the chance to debate MA with him. If your trying to defend KM against pearcemark's point, defend it without, TRY to find some legitimate points. Pearcemark is right
i love BJJ. but one thing it lacks in self defence which is VERY important is how to defend yourself against 2 or more people hitting you. say, your walking in a park and 2 thugs come after you and tackles you to the ground and starts kicking you at the same time.
@josh1212121 I can't wait to begin trainning in BJJ myself, I think your points are thoroughly over looked by many people, I have been practicing Okinawan Shorin-Ryu Karate for the past 6 years, I can tell you the ultimate combination of martial arts for real life self-defense is a traditional form of Karate with knife defenses, club defenses, multiple opponents ect ect. combined with Gracie Jiu-Jitsu!
@josh1212121 If 2 guys tackle you to the ground and start kicking you, there's no martial art you can learn to defend that. But if your choices are to be put in that situation with no training in ground fighting or to be put in that situation with 10 years of jiu jitsu experience, you're certainly better off having options to rely on.
@josh1212121 Krav Maga is a joke. It doesn't really teach you much of anything. They do silly practices where guys hold up padding and stand around you in a circle, charging in 1 by 1, you throw a knee at the pad and they fall down and another guy runs in. That's not an accurate representation of multiple attackers coming at you, and it doesn't really teach you anything about how to deal with it. Like I said, if you're knocked down by a group of people and they start kicking you, you're fucked.
@pearcemark2 you think you know how krav maga works by watching clips from youtube? HAHAHA!!! then i suppose the Israelites army dont know how to fight in a war at all. please. millions have studied krav maga to defend themselves against multiple attackers especially in the army and a random guy like you calls it a joke. yeah, SURE it is. lol. your no different from the people 50 years ago who called jiu jitsu useless in a fight when they didnt know ANYTHING about it
@josh1212121 People study WIng Chun, obviously that works, eh? Systema, plenty of morons believe in that, it must work, eh? Get real. How about you use a discerning eye to form your own opinion, rather than just "PEOPLE DO IT SO IT WORKS!!!"?
Krav Maga is a joke. You can't prepare to defend against multiple attackers unless they actually practice real time being attacked by multiple people. They don't, because they can't, because if they did the person would be seriously injured.
@pearcemark2 "You can't prepare to defend against multiple attackers unless they actually practice real time being attacked by multiple people" uhh they do! go to israel cause thats what they use in hostage situations and crowd control. like i said you dont know anything about it so you think its useless. people HAVE used it already and it works.
You're like one of those Bruce Lee manchildren that insist that he's the greatest fighter ever and he beat everyone up, but there's no video of him fighting. Because he wasn't.
Like I said, they set up silly scenarios where there's a circle of people holding pads, 1 guy runs in, the "victim" throws a knee or punch at the pad, the guy falls down, another guy charges in. That's not a real life scenario. It's silly.
@pearcemark2 you think its silly cause you DONT know how it can save a life. those scenarios are just for camera to show how they train. i know people who are instructors in krav maga who i've seen use it in REAL life, real fights in california. ill say it again you dont know ANYTHING about it thats why you doubt it, just like people doubt BJJ before. its normal for people to bash on something theyr not familiar with. so dont worry, its ok. u think u know krav maga from youtube videos. so funny
@josh1212121 That's fucking hilarious. You say that they're just showing how they train. NO FUCKING SHIT. AND THE WAY THEY TRAIN IS RETARDED AND STUPID.
You know you've got nothing when you're asked for a measly 2 videos of something that's supposedly being used by billions of people every day, and the best you can come up with is "DUDE I SEEN IT, IT WORKS, DURRRR!!"
You're a lost cause. Keep believing in voodoo and chi, nimrod.
@pearcemark2 you obviously know nothing about it at all to say its stupid. ill say it one last time. people thought bjj was stupid too when they DIDNT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. tell you what go ask other people who are in to martial arts. if one of them says krav maga doesnt really work then your right. your so funny. i've been a self defense instructor for 6 years and you know better than me? hahaha "AND THE WAY THEY TRAIN IS RETARDED AND STUPID" thats what people who dont know anything say haha
@pearcemark2 yeah. game, set match on you. cause your the one whose stupid enough to think that just cause there arent any clips on youtube it doesnt really work. i bet if there arent any videos about people jumping off rooftops while running you'd go "parkour is SO fake it can't be done in real life! cause i never see videos on youtube!" dumbass.
@josh1212121 Show me a couple videos of a guy who practices Krav Maga who gets tackled and his head kicked in by 3 people on the street, and he uses his Krav Maga to get back up and get away.
@josh1212121 It's the same as Wing Chun fighters going like "We train to poke your eyes out!", but you don't. You can't train to poke someone's eye out unless you actually poke someone's eye out.....and at that point they have to stop training because their eye has been poked out. So they don't do it. So they're not really training anything, they're just relying on the assumption that it will work, which isn't really training a technique. It's like training baseball but you never hold a bat.
@pearcemark2 would you stop making excuses. krav maga WORKS. its not a martial art where you learn techniques and how to take someone's eyes off, it teaches you how to control attackers with your body. its a self defense art. you dont know anything about it so quit showing off with your comparisons.
i believe it's the ultimate ground game,about that stuff of learning self defence in weeks i agree with you,you gotta train more than that, and i though brazilian schools had tough kids and fights, but man, BJJ is addicting, everyone that goes to a class, end's up comming to train every day, 2 to 5 hours.
and yes we can self defence, but most fighters are actually peacefull with themselfes, but when it comes to bjj tournaments arond here,let's just say,
Shut the fuck up!! If you knew MMA striking/wrestling/submissions would you be dumb enough to fight multiple attackers? COMMON SENCE YOU FUCKING MOMO, jiu jitsu is enough if need be, and it depends on the individual. Of course were all human, but come on fucking youngster, you got alot to learn about growing up in the real world. ya my mouth aint sound any mature because dumb fucks like u piss me the fuck off.
but your the one that sounds like a little girl saying "meh gracies suck and y are they getting beat?" They set there name in the history books they got nothing left to prove, secondly they never said it was the the ultimate art for multiple attackers but they did say their style was effective and could back it up because they had tune up matches before the first ufc began if you see the old footage with them challenging everybody and beating them, NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP pussie
The line of logic I see below is like saying "Ooo a .50 caliber semi-automatic rifle and saying "remember they came from flintlocks." Yeah yeah maybe it came from Judo but BJJ pwns all other styles. Maybe someone would get lucky but...I'll take my chances.
good body mechanics is good body mechanics, who cares who "thought it up first". You can know all the techniques you like, but the BJJ training methods and principles seem to be the thing that is producing the real life grappling skills. Judo can't really take credit for that.
actually if u look in old books. all the "invented" BJJ moves came from judo. however, BJJ improved judo moves to the point where they are more effective. judo is the father of BJJ
Someone actually respond to this because I'm curious. When he demonstrates the knife defense and applies the armlock, what happens when the guy just reaches over with his other arm and gets the knife?
Have someone hold you in that same position and you will find that as he cranks, the torque on your shoulder and elbow will lean you back, and reaching for the knife with your left hand will only crank it harder. Also, in that angle you'll find it very very hard to reach for the knife with your free hand.
well sorry to make all you guys hate me but why try rolling around with a guy in a plane as there really is not the room !!! why not try to inflict as much damage as humanly possible to the attacker hopefully not killing him so he can be questioned later.
A hardened, trained, plane hijacking terrorist who can not only take punches but punch harder than any normal civilian. How do you propose is the best way to inflict much damage? Punching? Well he can take punches and knock you out.
Groin, eye gouging? He can do those unto you much HARDER and damaging
No man.....it only takes one person to control a hijacker before 20 people from the plane jump on them. Didnt you hear about that guy that tried to take over a plain and the people almost beat him to death? Like I said, it only takes one person to have alittle or alot of control as we see in this video before others will jump on the hijackers too.
If you are wondering why Brian is extremely respectful towards the Gracie's it is because Brian was one of the original commentators for the UFC in its early days. So he knows first hand how the Gracie's have changed the whole fight-game in the US.
Gracie's, please please, PLEASE don't start associating with FOX news, I will for real stop being a big fan. They are a awful organization
lsloewen2 1 month ago
@lsloewen2 Relax, they are not "associating" with Fox news, they are simply promoting BJJ and their academy, that's all!
kanguesso 1 month ago
crazy eyes 1:10
RichieDaggerSpadeS 3 months ago
@chrisahn1 worst point ever. Bas is the boss, but anyone can write a forward in a KM book for some cash, plus there is no way he would ever get the chance to debate MA with him. If your trying to defend KM against pearcemark's point, defend it without, TRY to find some legitimate points. Pearcemark is right
lsloewen2 4 months ago
I hope one day to have as much innovation as Rorion has in his pinky finger.
navsquid32 7 months ago
the guy mis pronounced rener's name wrong haha
josh1212121 1 year ago
i love BJJ. but one thing it lacks in self defence which is VERY important is how to defend yourself against 2 or more people hitting you. say, your walking in a park and 2 thugs come after you and tackles you to the ground and starts kicking you at the same time.
josh1212121 1 year ago
@josh1212121 I can't wait to begin trainning in BJJ myself, I think your points are thoroughly over looked by many people, I have been practicing Okinawan Shorin-Ryu Karate for the past 6 years, I can tell you the ultimate combination of martial arts for real life self-defense is a traditional form of Karate with knife defenses, club defenses, multiple opponents ect ect. combined with Gracie Jiu-Jitsu!
ValkyereHowie 1 year ago
@josh1212121 If 2 guys tackle you to the ground and start kicking you, there's no martial art you can learn to defend that. But if your choices are to be put in that situation with no training in ground fighting or to be put in that situation with 10 years of jiu jitsu experience, you're certainly better off having options to rely on.
pearcemark2 11 months ago
@pearcemark2 no martial art you can learn to defend that? never heard of krav maga? teaches you how to defend against multiple attackers. guess not
josh1212121 11 months ago
@josh1212121 Krav Maga is a joke. It doesn't really teach you much of anything. They do silly practices where guys hold up padding and stand around you in a circle, charging in 1 by 1, you throw a knee at the pad and they fall down and another guy runs in. That's not an accurate representation of multiple attackers coming at you, and it doesn't really teach you anything about how to deal with it. Like I said, if you're knocked down by a group of people and they start kicking you, you're fucked.
pearcemark2 11 months ago
@pearcemark2 you think you know how krav maga works by watching clips from youtube? HAHAHA!!! then i suppose the Israelites army dont know how to fight in a war at all. please. millions have studied krav maga to defend themselves against multiple attackers especially in the army and a random guy like you calls it a joke. yeah, SURE it is. lol. your no different from the people 50 years ago who called jiu jitsu useless in a fight when they didnt know ANYTHING about it
josh1212121 11 months ago
@josh1212121 People study WIng Chun, obviously that works, eh? Systema, plenty of morons believe in that, it must work, eh? Get real. How about you use a discerning eye to form your own opinion, rather than just "PEOPLE DO IT SO IT WORKS!!!"?
Krav Maga is a joke. You can't prepare to defend against multiple attackers unless they actually practice real time being attacked by multiple people. They don't, because they can't, because if they did the person would be seriously injured.
pearcemark2 11 months ago
@pearcemark2 "You can't prepare to defend against multiple attackers unless they actually practice real time being attacked by multiple people" uhh they do! go to israel cause thats what they use in hostage situations and crowd control. like i said you dont know anything about it so you think its useless. people HAVE used it already and it works.
josh1212121 11 months ago
@josh1212121 Dude, they don't.
You're like one of those Bruce Lee manchildren that insist that he's the greatest fighter ever and he beat everyone up, but there's no video of him fighting. Because he wasn't.
Like I said, they set up silly scenarios where there's a circle of people holding pads, 1 guy runs in, the "victim" throws a knee or punch at the pad, the guy falls down, another guy charges in. That's not a real life scenario. It's silly.
pearcemark2 11 months ago
@pearcemark2 you think its silly cause you DONT know how it can save a life. those scenarios are just for camera to show how they train. i know people who are instructors in krav maga who i've seen use it in REAL life, real fights in california. ill say it again you dont know ANYTHING about it thats why you doubt it, just like people doubt BJJ before. its normal for people to bash on something theyr not familiar with. so dont worry, its ok. u think u know krav maga from youtube videos. so funny
josh1212121 11 months ago
@josh1212121 That's fucking hilarious. You say that they're just showing how they train. NO FUCKING SHIT. AND THE WAY THEY TRAIN IS RETARDED AND STUPID.
You know you've got nothing when you're asked for a measly 2 videos of something that's supposedly being used by billions of people every day, and the best you can come up with is "DUDE I SEEN IT, IT WORKS, DURRRR!!"
You're a lost cause. Keep believing in voodoo and chi, nimrod.
pearcemark2 11 months ago
@pearcemark2 you obviously know nothing about it at all to say its stupid. ill say it one last time. people thought bjj was stupid too when they DIDNT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. tell you what go ask other people who are in to martial arts. if one of them says krav maga doesnt really work then your right. your so funny. i've been a self defense instructor for 6 years and you know better than me? hahaha "AND THE WAY THEY TRAIN IS RETARDED AND STUPID" thats what people who dont know anything say haha
josh1212121 11 months ago
@josh1212121 You know what the difference between krav maga and BJJ is, fuckstick?
I can find you 600 fucking videos of BJJ being put to use effectively.
You can't find me A SINGLE FUCKING INSTANCE OF KRAV MAGA DOING SHIT.
Game, set match.
pearcemark2 11 months ago
@pearcemark2 yeah. game, set match on you. cause your the one whose stupid enough to think that just cause there arent any clips on youtube it doesnt really work. i bet if there arent any videos about people jumping off rooftops while running you'd go "parkour is SO fake it can't be done in real life! cause i never see videos on youtube!" dumbass.
josh1212121 11 months ago
@josh1212121 You know what the difference is, dummy?
There ARE videos of parkour.
Holy christ, you're dumb.
We live in a world where cameras are rolling 24/7, everyone has them.
You say this shit works and that millions of people use it every day, but YOU CAN'T FIND A SINGLE INSTANCE OF IT EVER BEING USED
YOU'RE A FUCKING FRAUD
pearcemark2 11 months ago
@josh1212121 Show me a couple videos of a guy who practices Krav Maga who gets tackled and his head kicked in by 3 people on the street, and he uses his Krav Maga to get back up and get away.
Just 2 videos.
pearcemark2 11 months ago
@josh1212121 It's the same as Wing Chun fighters going like "We train to poke your eyes out!", but you don't. You can't train to poke someone's eye out unless you actually poke someone's eye out.....and at that point they have to stop training because their eye has been poked out. So they don't do it. So they're not really training anything, they're just relying on the assumption that it will work, which isn't really training a technique. It's like training baseball but you never hold a bat.
pearcemark2 11 months ago
@pearcemark2 would you stop making excuses. krav maga WORKS. its not a martial art where you learn techniques and how to take someone's eyes off, it teaches you how to control attackers with your body. its a self defense art. you dont know anything about it so quit showing off with your comparisons.
josh1212121 11 months ago
have you ever tried bjj?
i believe it's the ultimate ground game,about that stuff of learning self defence in weeks i agree with you,you gotta train more than that, and i though brazilian schools had tough kids and fights, but man, BJJ is addicting, everyone that goes to a class, end's up comming to train every day, 2 to 5 hours.
and yes we can self defence, but most fighters are actually peacefull with themselfes, but when it comes to bjj tournaments arond here,let's just say,
preapre for war.
masondarko 1 year ago
@thicknecked
What a crock of bull. Internet tough guy.
rockie071 1 year ago
Different
CooterPuppet 1 year ago
BJJ pwns all
zxcvbnmmasdfghjkl 2 years ago 10
I love jiu jitsu, but there is no room for rolling people in the cockpit of an airplane
Menof09 3 years ago
you don't have to roll, you can just choke him, controll with some strikes, a guillotine, or leg locks.
masondarko 1 year ago
ya thats were the fight becomes commerce!!!!
renan150123 3 years ago
vash why aren't u in ufc u seem to think u know everything
wall1 3 years ago
haha! rener squeaked when his dad guillotined him!
j123na 3 years ago 3
yeah :) thats awesome :)
Generalterz 3 years ago
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barrettokarate 4 years ago
Shut the fuck up!! If you knew MMA striking/wrestling/submissions would you be dumb enough to fight multiple attackers? COMMON SENCE YOU FUCKING MOMO, jiu jitsu is enough if need be, and it depends on the individual. Of course were all human, but come on fucking youngster, you got alot to learn about growing up in the real world. ya my mouth aint sound any mature because dumb fucks like u piss me the fuck off.
basedeal 3 years ago
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barrettokarate 3 years ago
but your the one that sounds like a little girl saying "meh gracies suck and y are they getting beat?" They set there name in the history books they got nothing left to prove, secondly they never said it was the the ultimate art for multiple attackers but they did say their style was effective and could back it up because they had tune up matches before the first ufc began if you see the old footage with them challenging everybody and beating them, NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP pussie
basedeal 3 years ago
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barrettokarate 3 years ago
ok lets squash this no need for either of us to get hostile anymore :)
basedeal 3 years ago
Gracies never got beat by fighters who don't know ground fighting....>.>
Vash1202 3 years ago 13
I respect in Brazilian Jujitsu, but it ain't that easy with a knife.
deonvan 4 years ago
@deonvan or a gun, or a bazooka... crazy huh
brasileiro135 1 year ago
The line of logic I see below is like saying "Ooo a .50 caliber semi-automatic rifle and saying "remember they came from flintlocks." Yeah yeah maybe it came from Judo but BJJ pwns all other styles. Maybe someone would get lucky but...I'll take my chances.
HERMESTHRICEGREATEST 4 years ago
Always remember that Brazilian Jiu Jitsu comes from Judo...
ToxicLambert 4 years ago
pure judo at 3:53
ToxicLambert 4 years ago
Always remember that Judo comes from Jiu-Jitsu!
PedroLMariano1 4 years ago
good body mechanics is good body mechanics, who cares who "thought it up first". You can know all the techniques you like, but the BJJ training methods and principles seem to be the thing that is producing the real life grappling skills. Judo can't really take credit for that.
IscariotsAngel 4 years ago
actually if u look in old books. all the "invented" BJJ moves came from judo. however, BJJ improved judo moves to the point where they are more effective. judo is the father of BJJ
gr33ndestLny 4 years ago
@IscariotsAngel BJJ principles superior to traditional Judo principles? You might want to rethink that.
samluke8121 1 year ago
starting at 3:57-4:00 is an Osoto Gari from Judo.
MarkSamurai5 3 years ago
osoto gari?!?
its actually o goshi or a hip throw buddy...
RodrigoVanilla93 3 years ago
Someone actually respond to this because I'm curious. When he demonstrates the knife defense and applies the armlock, what happens when the guy just reaches over with his other arm and gets the knife?
diabolic42090 5 years ago
Have someone hold you in that same position and you will find that as he cranks, the torque on your shoulder and elbow will lean you back, and reaching for the knife with your left hand will only crank it harder. Also, in that angle you'll find it very very hard to reach for the knife with your free hand.
Vash1202 3 years ago
what a joke
galoisevariste 5 years ago
IDIOT!!!
PedroLMariano1 4 years ago
well sorry to make all you guys hate me but why try rolling around with a guy in a plane as there really is not the room !!! why not try to inflict as much damage as humanly possible to the attacker hopefully not killing him so he can be questioned later.
ahumanweapon 5 years ago
A hardened, trained, plane hijacking terrorist who can not only take punches but punch harder than any normal civilian. How do you propose is the best way to inflict much damage? Punching? Well he can take punches and knock you out.
Groin, eye gouging? He can do those unto you much HARDER and damaging
Vash1202 3 years ago
No man.....it only takes one person to control a hijacker before 20 people from the plane jump on them. Didnt you hear about that guy that tried to take over a plain and the people almost beat him to death? Like I said, it only takes one person to have alittle or alot of control as we see in this video before others will jump on the hijackers too.
marineguy4eva 3 years ago
i love mma too, but this is straight gjj and self defense, mma is mixed martial arts.
Spdrcrfatty 5 years ago
You can't talk about the Gracies without talking about MMA and vice versa!
PedroLMariano1 4 years ago
LOL RRRRener
TrumpetDan714 5 years ago
If you are wondering why Brian is extremely respectful towards the Gracie's it is because Brian was one of the original commentators for the UFC in its early days. So he knows first hand how the Gracie's have changed the whole fight-game in the US.
JiuJitsuWatch 5 years ago