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  • If someone wants to know the true face of Russia, he should find some information about war in Chechnya...

  • @TheNeuraxus Do you know why the Chechen war began?

  • budet vaina poka russkie v abxazii i v Cxinvali!!!! Kazli ubiraites... mirno ne xatite , budem bambit!

  • i hope these fascist goergian will burn in hell for what these nazi did to civilians!

  • The Georgians started the war. They assured that Ossetia would not be shot at with anymore small arms fire from Georgians, the VERY next morning the rocheted, shelled, and shit the entire city up. Georgians were throwing grenade in underground shelters with kids and laughing. The Georgian President wouldn't even talk outside when a Russian plane flew over! He pissed his pants and the soldiers were looking like wtf? S. Ossetia doesn't hardly have any army? who were the Georgians shooting? civs

  • bulshit, Georgians are victiom of ethnic cleasing, lie, Georgia never used air forces in this war, it was your Dear Russia

  • @MNapetvari georgians LIES!

  • only an uninformed person would state that osetian people have been thru genocide, it simply never hapend .

    however INGUSH CHECHEN AND DAGESTAN people went thru genocide , and allmost georgia , thanks to nato it did not happen.

  • @tamerlan4 typical Georgian propagandist!

  • Russians put your Tanks and Military + "peacekeepers" up your Arses and Fuck of From my country!

  • @TheGOBEJISHVILI you: donkey!

  • @joejoe4812 go fuck youself!!! we are not racist!!! RUssia split first blood , we wont give up Abkhazia and South Ossetia .... WE WON'T GIVE UP !!!!! unless Russian bastards leave our country!

  • @TheGOBEJISHVILI THEN THAT MEANS YOU WILL BE ELIMINATED EVEN IF IT TAKES ANOTHER CENTURY A TWO.

  • @TheGOBEJISHVILI RUSSIA AND ALLIES WILL NOT REST UNTIL WE PUT AN END YOU WHORES.

  • Russian made video!!! fucking liers!

  • wow you see but georgia think that they in democrisy

  • @TheGOBEJISHVILI Грузинская армия не то что раньше, она быстрее бегает, так что их не догнать никому.:-) Ибо нех трогать мирных жителей и русский миротворцев, силой никогда ничего не решить, а теперь если вы сунетесь в ЮО, осетины устроют вам резню, которую грузия не выдержит. ;-)

  • south ossetia doesn't exist!

    ossetian terrorist and russian fascistes invaded Georgia! fuck you all!

  • wow you know so much stuff

    but you dumb fuck #1 terrorist

    with your fucking country you have no fucking who started this war.

    america did because they want to put rating for repablican. and Obama can seet there and do nothing.

    if

  • ne vazvrashaetes suki, ato let cherez piat mi snova vas iskramsim! suki rusackie! tolko u vas bejenci da?

    nu ladno mi vas viebem do konca! ne vazvrashaetes esli xotite budushego dlia vashix detei ato ia rastu maix ctobi ix iskramsat!

    suki ne naviju vas!

  • you fucking liers. It's russia who destroyed ckhinvali brainwashed people. russia does not care what will happen with people, they want this teritorry for militarry base ass holes. this is a big bullshit!!!

  • virtual7insanity

    The georgian, pretending to be the osset

    lol

  • an american wannebe ossetian :)i think after all "your" country would spit on you!!!try to tell the civilians who survived georgians bombs your fucking story!!they'll show you how to tread american assholes!!!

  • what about my Ossetian cusen who got killed by Ossetian irregulars coz he refused to fight? I need an answer on that question. and what about myself: I am half Georgian half Ossetian. what do u want me to do? what would u do in same situation?

  • btw. u dont have to worry about me and what my coutnry would do to me. it's my problem. so why do u bother?

  • You not the osset. You the swindler. That ossets think, they can tell. To arrive to Ossetia enough and to ask them.

  • liar

  • i am sure we can keep peace my Ossetian friend without Russians! Russian Bastards not allowing our People (Georgian and Ossetian People) to be together and live as Friendly Nations... Time will come and we will be together my friend without Russian Basterds!

  • @TheGOBEJISHVILI Georgians and Ossetians lived for many centuries together as one family and we will always! Georgian King Tamara's husband was Ossetian and in Georgian kings veinsthere is also an Ossetian blood. We are one Blood, One history and one future. Fuck russians!

  • @TheGOBEJISHVILI fuck off fascist goergians

  • and you don't have the right to say something about fascism cause russia is full of fucken skinheads. And your government is supporting them in oppressing caucasian people. by the way ossetians are caucasians too and if you are really sorry about those people why don't you protest the action of those bastard skins . But you can't do that because you yourselves are FUCKEN FASCISTS, russian politicians say that ossetians and abkhazians will be their slaves after russia occupies these regions.

  • You're a dumbass, not every one in Russia supports the fucking traitors, skinheads.

    You have to understand that after WWII, when our fathers fought off the Nazis, and stupid young racists adopt it as their ideology, they are traitors. Fuck them.

    And Russia has no plans to "occupy" those regions...because they already technically did. I see it as a good thing, protection in case their neighbour to the South decides to kill 600 more people. Surprisingly, some countries see Russia as a friend.

  • this is the real face of so called Democracy, if you are working agains them legal or illegal it does matter, you must work for their interest thats all. Welcome to the new slavery of humankind.

  • georgia was raped - thats true but whole georians nation have nothing against it cuz tiflis is sodom

  • u motherfucker, who was raped? russian soldiers were rped on the ground u motherfucker.. well done, u've bombed us and killed children. u motherfuckers

  • georgians didn't rape women, they don;t have time for that. it's bullshit .. georgian's who call democrats their self??? u motherfuckers who the fuxck r u living in my land u motherfuckers. get the fuck off georgia u motherfuckers.. russia have bombed ossetia not georgia

  • they had no time for that and they woulden;t do it.. ossetians and russians have raped 10s of georgians

  • fuck you. god bless russia

  • after what u did in ukraina, prague, lithuania, poland, abkhazia, georgia u think god is with u ?? u russian u r alcoholic. u can only fuck own mom

  • for now Abkhaz and Ossetian people are good with fucking georgian moms

  • shenii mkvdari da cocxali movtyan...

    fuck ur dead and alive, all of themm. when was ossetian fucking gerogian?? abkhazs ans oss have been suck hgeorgiand dick all the time.. now u suck russian as well.. our time will come.. u rfuckin dick.. fuck ur everything

  • fuck politics! just help all these children, do the morally right thing.

  • ia dumaiu rasiani spomoshu mini medvedeva, mini putin nashol rasiu novie ima sridi vso civilizovanix stranax: agresor, akupant, i kaneshna aferisti tak shto ne udivlaites esli vase budut vas zvat aferistam !!! Stop Ateisti Komunisti !!!

  • why is that anchorwoman smiling while she's talking about this stuff

  • It's a pity, all such videous are no longer available... Youtube tries to delete them. why?

  • Five stars video !!!

    Long Live South Ossetia !!!

  • suure Chorus2....

    In Georgia journalists are killing, hostages in schools are also killing by security service, and many many...indeed human rights in Gerogia doesn't exist. That's why Stalin was right when he killed thousands of Georgians and allocated from Georgian land Osetia(which was Georgian land from centuries, longer than Russia exist)

    So, that's why Russian politicians are doing good job, continuing Stalins politics. In Gerogia must exist HUMAN RIGHTS...BY RUSSIAN WAY....

  • sorry I didn't mean that journalist and hostages are killing but they were killed...

    This is big difference :P

  • georgia gave stalin to russia.... haha... man are u out of ur mind.... or u know something about history... go to sleep man//

  • yeah!:D

    And people from Chechenya welcome to with smile Russian army and their bombs, homicides and robbers, couse the know this is important and necessary to defeat damn Chechenyan separatist, who no one in that country need...

    Everyone know that Chechenyan separatists are responsible for killing 300 hostages in Bieslan... Right?

    aktovegin are you sure what is going on in Chechenya? Do you know someone who is from Chechenya?

  • she lies

  • no!first tell us about that western crimes;1 China(1945)2 Korea (1950)3 China (1950)

    4 Guatemala(1954)5 Indonesia(1958)6 (1959-1960)7 Guatemala (1960)8 Kongo(1964)9 Peru(1965)10 Laos (1964)11 Vietnam(1961)12Cambodia(1969) 13Guatemala (1967)14 Granada 1983)15 Lebanon(1984)16 Libya (1986)17 El Salvador(1980)18 Nicaragua (1980s)19 Panama(1989)20 Iraq (1991-1999) 21Sudan (1998)22Afghanistan (1998)23Yugoslavia (1999)24 Afghanistan (2001-2008)25 Iraq(2003-2008) s.ossetia(2008)

  • Tell us about russian war crimes commited in Chechnya first.

  • Came to Chechnya and ask someone, try to find man who wand to be independ of Russian Federation no one wants.. That tale about indepense was made by western press. The agression in Chechenian republic was the same like in Georgia an a western press vew.

  • i bet that your favorite tv channel is cnn!

  • cont. :)

    Call Osetian to talks and renew offer full authonomy for them.

    At answer Osetian once again bombarded georgian villages.

    August 7 10:30 PM local time

    Georgian answered fire. March of tanks and militant equipment is started forwad Cchinwali.

    That's all.

  • ArsFrolin I missed you :)

    I was affraid you disapered :)

    But I see you didn't read FACTS.

    August 5

    300 "volunteers" from Russia appeared in Osetia.

    August 6

    Osetian Separatists cancelled meeting planned on next day, first from over 10 years talks with Georgian representative. Osetian started bombarding villages around Cchinwali with passive reaction of Russian peace force.

    August 7 7:00 PM local time

    Saakaszwili in TV order georgian force do not react on the attack.

  • I don't mind giving the news reader a few good shag from behind. Then I'll give her a few good advice. I am sure she would be capable of realising how badly agressive Russians have been against Georgia !

  • Rossija, my s toboj. Litva

  • Georgia was is and always will be the peaceful country.Russia was is and (unfortunately)will be agressor!We need peace!STOP RUSSIA!!!!!!!!

  • I'm sick of this LYING Russian Propaganda machine. "Русский есть наибольший и наинаглейший лгун во всем свете". Тургенев

    "Наиважнейшею приметою удачи русского народа есть его садистская жестокость". М.Горький.

  • hmm is it right?

    when i see lenkasp's answer maybe all this senteces wrote by orleaneli is right ....

    Maybe in nowadays we will dring georgian wines?

    This could be at least little help for this under agression country.

  • fuck georgians n their psycho ass shvili president

  • Russian celebrities on Russians:

    "Nation which wonders through Europe and seeks anything that could be destroyed, demolished only for the mere entertainment" - F. Dostoevsky

    "Not a people but a cattle, rood, wild horde, wicked and villains" - M.Bulgakov

    "The most significant sign of success of Russian people is their sadistic cruelty"- M.Gorky

  • Just words that are cut from the context.the idea of this words is substituted

  • "Moscow- Russ of taiga, Mongolian, savage, beast wise"- A.Tolstoy

    "Oh how hard to live in Russia, in this deadly center of physical and moral perversion, malicious lay and villain"-K.Aksakov

    "Any conquer of territory, any oppression, any violence Russia carries out not otherwise than under the premise of education, liberalism, liberation of people"- F.Engels

  • Dear people, russian media manipulates already a limited brains of big part of population.

    they want to sell to their own people that what they do is right thing, but:

    "Any conquer of territory, any oppression, any violence Russia carries out not otherwise than under the premise of education, liberalism, liberation of people"- F.Engels

    for to receive this thruth they are not yet developed.

  • shut the fuck up fascist

  • diego1fernandez did you read posts below?

    First of all check all FACTS not watch movie made by Russian.

    Probably you used to your media which have special type...

    censorship and  media hype.

  • Georgians how you can says "russian agression" after this ? watch?v=W6nOCK-Dgzo

  • ill beat the fuck out of every georgian pig ill find!

  • come on, I'm here fucking bastard,

  • What about the Russian warcrimes in Chechnya ??? Why Russia doesn't want to grant Chechnya full independence, like they offer to Ossetia and Abkhazia ?

  • Is CNN showing American what's going on there? :))) Do you have friends from Checna. I saw them everyday. But you and come people making your decision from ... ? CNN ? :) We all see than's going on in Tskhinvaly, but CNN lie you. Why? Are you sure you know ehat's going know in Chechya?.. Don't watch CNN and FoxNews please. Be careful :)))

  • Yes I have Chechen friends and they told a lot of things about the behavior of the Russian Army. Are we talking about CNN ? NO ! I asked a simple question, please just answer it ...

  • Sorry. I thought that you see and belive them..

  • NeMetov, one question: why in the first time at this situation we didn't hear news from Georgia? Did they try hide information? Even they lie they should make some news for World. Byt we didn't hear. We heard only russian news.About CNN. from long time ago it's lef wing station and always promote Russia. That's all.

    What is the difference between Chechnya and Georgia? Georgia has gas and pipe with gas that's why they are rivalry for Russia.

  • This war starter USA. Russian know it, but you're going eat hamburgers and watch CNN.

  • The difference is: the chechnya is teretorry of russia (everybody blamed russia! but no one blame georgia!), and the bombed there teritory, like georgien now , but s.ossetien is not georgia!

  • This video - Truth. CNN and all US and Europe massmedia working on USA goverment.

    They lies, and you trust your television.

    If you wish to know the naked truth try to study history of this region.

  • ArsFrolin look at media in Russia.

    If you say that in Europe an US media working for US goverment look on video above.

    And look on TV in Russia. But carrefuly :)

    And of course. Learn the history. jinnjimmy - brilliant joke :D

  • What's exactly the false in video above?

  • once again the jews have started a war and commited genocide and once again the jew media lies claiming russia attacked georgia ...

  • Thanks Georgia! watch?v=6WA8ZHtykLw

  • yeah...

    everything what I see, this short movie is made in Russia. That's why i don't believie in that proof.

    Open your eye people.

    First of all. Who want to attack someone who has  backup one of the biggest country with bigger army?

    I think it's rhetorical question.

    second of all, read more about that region and maybe a little bit history from last 10 years.

    But not only watching TV.

    If of course you want be objective :)

  • of course i answered on the proof-link sent by xxxTomi92xxx :)

  • In Russia we think that USA started this war.

  • it's joke?

  • NO. I know this is very complicated, but we are really think so. I love American people. I hate Candoleezza Rice. Only CNN, Fox News and BBC did show that Russiam bombing the capital of Georgia. Tbilisi? Do you believe? Nobody can show me the video of Tbilisi. Why? Why USA goverment support Saashvili? Who killed people incliding women and children. Candoleezza Rica was in Georgia twice before the war started. Check my profile if want to know Russian opinion. We AREN'T a FALSE CNN. PEACE)

  • I wonder how much the Russian officials pay these people to tell lies like that!!!

  • Listen bastard no one likes Georgians from former soviet republic countries, you got to know that and they killed lots of innocent people in South Ossetia.

  • watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ is your proof idiot

  • About Statue of stalin i promis that he will get rid of him for Creating Tirant countrie licke Russia

  • WHAT WOULD YOU SAI IF WE GAVE CHECHNIANS OUR PASPORTS AND SENDED OUR ARMY TO "PROTECT THAM" AS YOU DID?

    "Try to prove me wrong then."

    half of s.osetia was not under control of kokoiti, in tbilisi there are districts full with refuges from Tsxinvali after 1992 and you think that elections legal?

  • YulieAna

    in times of Stalin USSR was strong as never but he was comlit tirant. Putin is not strong inaf but russian is not democratic countrye. If medvedev is someone in russia only after Putin.

    and havent you heared about killed policemans is s.osetia before this conflict bigen? havent you heared about bombing georgian willages every day by osetian separatists? havent you heared that s.osetia is georgia as chechnia is russia?

  • "90% of people in S. Ossetia voted for independence."

    you are lyer of russian standarts

  • Try to prove me wrong then.

  • Zionist Global Domination and Genocide.

  • watch?v=V_Ks6hu6ggE

  • what does Bush & US has to do gain out of this? I hear that US has orchestrated this.

  • remember who is instigating this. See what the media is telling us.

  • russia, the only justice power in the world can balance the evil yankee empire.

  • georgian butcher should be sentenced to death...

  • How the hell are the russians the aggressors when the north georgians are the ones killing these people you people are stupid listen to them!!

  • 8:32 fuck,n cunts shoot at anything!! it,s a fuck,n dog,how the fuck is that a threat!!! thier just like the fuck,n yanks in iraq..RUSSIA DESTROY THESE FUCK,N ANIMALS!!!

  • RUSSIANS NEVER EVER CARED ABOUT ANYBODY BUT THERE OWN INTERESETS! But when ossetian people will realize that will be too late. Russian are aggressors and barbarians and they proved it not just one time!

  • die you piece of shit

  • die you piece of shit

  • А в Российских СМИ идёт Российская ДЕЗИНФОРМАЦИЯ И ПРОПАГАНДА И ЛОЖ ПО ВСЕМ ТВ КАНАЛАМ ИЗ ЗА ЦЕНЗУРЫ И ДИКТАТУРЫ ПУТИНА И МЕДВЕДЕВА Я САМ ИЗ MOSCOW И ЗНАЮ ЧТО ГОВОРЮ!

    Правозащитник Руслан Бровкин.

    ввв ultrafreedom do am наш сайт!

    В Грузии кто едит по дорогам Южной Осетии с ВИДЕО КАМЕРОЙ того ФСБ записывает опреоре шпион ФСБ их ловит и пытает люди под пытками всё на себя бирут и убиство Кенади тоже!

  • Ты научись сначала по-русски писать...

  • Слушай))) Тебе недостаточно кадров Цхинвали, которые часами показывают разрушеные дома и убитых людей и так далее??!! Или ты склоняешься с постановочным видеосьемкам "разрушений" на грузинской территории?? Я лично просмотрел много-много роликов на YouTube и не нашел таких же разрушений как в Цхинвали? Геноцид русскими Осетин? Почему тогда Россия помогает беженцам осетинам, почему..они же должны их по версии западных СМИ бомбить кластерными бомбами итд?? Почему?

    Мне стыдно за таких россиян.

  • ArsFrolin For which Russian you shame?

    For this who attacked on Georgia? Or which lie in nowadays? Or maybe for Russian peace forces which did NOTHING when Osetian bombard villages around Cchinwalii IN AUGUST 8 or maybe for 300 Russian "volunteer" which appeared in Osetia in AUGUST 5??

    Are you sure you know the FACTS?

  • I'm sure. I believe video contains ruins in Tshinvali, i don't belive "Hollywood cinema" which view in CNN, BBC etc. in Georgia.

    I don't see in CNN and BBC reports serios ruins in Georgia, but World massmedia speaks - Russian bombing, russian tanks, russian agressors, russian genocide georgian...

    If Russia needs attack to Georgia, Russia invade this country very fast.

    Sorry for my English. My first language is russian. If you needs true - write in ICQ - 323535577 - am talking with you))

  • So if you sure why you still insist that Georgia started attack Osetia? You wrote: "If Russia needs attack to Georgia, Russia invade this country very fast." I do not doubt that. But look on date.

    Osetian bombarded villages around Cchinwalii IN AUGUST 8 or maybe for 300 Russian "volunteer" which appeared in Osetia in AUGUST 5. Georgian attack started August 8.

    This is changing the point.

    About TV. Either me, I don't watch TV :)

    AT ALL :)

  • About date again, because what I wrote is not clear enough and I made a mistake :/

    August 5

    300 "volunteers" from Russia appeared in Osetia.

    August 6

    Osetian Separatists cancelled meeting planned on next day, first from over 10 years talks with Georgian representative. Osetian started bombarding villages around Cchinwali with passive reaction of Russian peace force.

    August 7 7:00 PM local time

    Saakaszwili in TV order georgian force do not react on the attack.

  • cont. :)

    Call Osetian to talks and renew offer full authonomy for them.

    At answer Osetian once again bombarded georgian villages.

    August 7 10:30 PM local time

    Georgian answered fire. March of tanks and militant equipment is started forwad Cchinwali.

    That's all.

  • Hahah))You know than Ossetian - NO ARMY!

    Ossetian "Army" with Kalashnikov+ 500 Russian peacekeepers VS Georgian Army with many tanks, Artilerry etc.

    Need be a idiot to attack Georgian army first.

    1 Ossetian VS 11 Georgian. Who wins??? I think you know who wins.

    About Russian Massmedia "lie". In Russian chanells i see mass destruction, more and more killed people. In other massmedia i see cinema. As Hollywood cinema. Naturally Georgia have casualties, but it is War and Russia not begin this.

  • Have u see human rights watch document? Nobody believes your show anymore.Why did that man Sanikove who fled Tskhinvali to Russia with his dog praised Georgians saying: "good people, hard working much more hardworking than us" And many Ossetians say Georgian Soldiers told us we won't shoot if you do not attack". I am impressed of humane nature of Georgian Army where moral is so high.

  • Stalin was Georgian. And in the future in the leadership of the USSR were Georgians. Russia peace-loving country! Russian not rancorous people! Russian inherently tolerance! Russian want to be friends with all and all help!

    But unfortunately policy of the Soviet Union consider Russia policy. This is not right!

    Russia is not the Soviet Union! Our country is smart and adequate and most honest people!

    In Russia, people know that such bravery and honor of valour!

  • zedraider: I am sorry but Russia is still very much the same thing as Soviet Union. Soviet time KGB officiers rule the country. You can see old Soviet time criminal behaviour in Chechnya or Beslau. Or think about Russia's aggressive words about peaceful democracy Estonia. Russia is NOT peace-loving country. Unfortunately.

  • " I am sorry but Russia is still very much the same thing as Soviet Union."

    Considering Russia has a completely social system and government, you are really full of shit.

    "Russia is NOT peace-loving country."

    Thank you, now leave the politics to the profesionals.

  • YulieAna: Of course conditions are now much better in Russia than during Soviet time - thanks to Yeltsin. But still Russia is ruled by a criminal dictator - Putin. Nothing has changed in that respect. No free elections, no free media. KGB thugs control the country.

    Russia is NOT peace-loving country. Do you ever listen what dictator Putin and his puppet talk? Threats, threats, threats.

    You can be sure that I will not leave politics to such KGB criminals as Putin, Lavrov and so on.

  • Yeltsin was not able to rise the economy out of crisis. It was bankrupt.

    Putin had an 80% approval rating. He took the country out of its financial crisis and right now the economy is on the rise and the unemployment rate is at its lowest.

    I do listen to what they say, and i have not heard them threaten anyone, just the facist Georgian government that murdered civilians in Tshinvali. Ironically, the "democratic" Georgian government idolizes Stalin whose statue is in Gori.

  • I never supported Putin's politics, i think after 8 years in the office he needs to step down. But in regards to South Ossetia i think they did what they were supposed to.

  • YulieAna: Nice to hear your opinion about Putin but Russia's actions in Georgia are extremely suspicious. Russia didn't only protect Ossetians but it also invaded large areas of actual Georgia and destroyed infrastructure and killed people. Why?

    Why didn't Russia prevent Ossetians from firing Georgia with artillery BEFORE Georgia's attack? Clearly Russia is not innocent at all.

    If Russia supports independency to S. Ossetia and Abhazia, Russia should give independency to Chechnya. Right?

  • "Why didn't Russia prevent Ossetians from firing Georgia with artillery BEFORE Georgia's attack?"

    Because Saakashvili made a public statement to negotiate and give S. Ossetia autonomy in return for them to remain under the territorial integrity of Georgia. 2 hours later he broke that promise.

  • YulieAna: What? Is that a reason to start artillery fire against Georgia? That means that you admit that it is Russia that started the war. Because it is 100 % sure that Ossetians did nothing against instructions of Russian "peacekeepers".

  • "Is that a reason to start artillery fire against Georgia?"

    What is the reason to start artillery fire against georgia?

    "That means that you admit that it is Russia that started the war."

    No, that means that you on the side of a fascist who killed his own people.

    "Because it is 100 % sure that Ossetians did nothing against instructions of Russian "peacekeepers"."

    What didn't they do exactly?

  • YulieAna: Please note: Russia has murdered 200.000 own people in Chechnya and 1000 people in Beslau school alone.

    1. You admitted that Ossetians started firing Georgia without any reason.

    2. You proved that you are brainwashed Russian because you used word "fascist" in idiotic way.

    3. Ossetians did not started artillery fire againsta Georgia without permission from Russia's "peacekeepers".

  • "You admitted that Ossetians started firing Georgia without any reason."

    Bullshit, i never admitted that. You aren't a very good lier.

    "You proved that you are brainwashed Russian because you used word "fascist" in idiotic way."

    Right, because killed own makes one "democratic" president. Look up the world "fascist".

    "Ossetians did not started artillery fire againsta Georgia without permission from Russia's "peacekeepers". "

    Now, lets see you prove that.

  • In Besland it were the terrirists who took over the school, not Russians. Are you also gonna blame Russia on the global warming?

    I am not "brainwashed", i listen to news every day and hear what the people say. And i doubt that 30,000 of those people would all be mistaken.

    You're just a hater and a sheep of the western media who uses history to justify the present events that have NO connection to the past.

  • YulieAna: Russia's troops attacked Beslau school without any neotiations and killed the children. Chechens did not kill them. Putin killed. Do you disagree? Parents of Beslau children saw everything.

    Beslau is heavily connected with present events through KGB-Putin. Was this new information to you?

  • Unless you show me a shred of evidence of what you're saying, you're a fucking lier and very bad in that.

  • YulieAna: "Unless you show me a shred of evidence of what you're saying, you're a fucking lier and very bad in that. "

    Question: evidence about what?

  • Plus excusing Georgia for starting a "war" with Russia because Georgia invaded their own territory. There was a series of agreements between Georgia and Russia that were in power for over a decade. Russia was pressuring Georgia for years to sign a pack to not use military aggression against S. Ossetia. Saakashvili said why should he sign it if he is not going to attack his own people. Well he did. Again, you're making all kinds of excuses about a militant fascist and making Russia the bad guy.

  • YulieAna: "Saakashvili said why should he sign it if he is not going to attack his own people. Well he did."

    I have told 10 times that this attack happened after continuous fire from Ossetian side. Ossetians did not stop firing although Georgia kept silent. Many people were killed.

    In spite of this, it was a military error to attack. it happened against warnings from USA.

  • "I have told 10 times that this attack happened after continuous fire from Ossetian side."

    Proof?

  • It's not Beslau, it's Beslan. What is new to me, is dipshit propogandist like yourself, spreading bullshit because of your ignorance and hate.

    It's like saying that 9/11 was an inside job, although there are rumors that it is.

  • YulieAna: You can contact the chairperson of "parents of Beslan children". They have a organization that tries to get justice in Putin-Russia. It has been difficult. I have read a lot of Beslan. It is not possible in Russia where you go to jail if you mention Beslan.

    Beslan not Beslau :) Thanks.

  • And in regards of you accusing Russia of killing people in Georgia. This is WAR, during WAR people die. Russia did not purposely target civilians like the Georgians did, it bombed military bases to prevent the further aggression. If in the process somebody died, Georgia should've thought about it before they initiated this conflict.

    I am not going to discuss Chechnya as it is unrelated to this conflict and neither do i know enough about it to make any comments.

  • What i find suspecious is georgia starting this mess on the day of the olympics than claiming to be a victim. It seems to me they planed this whole thing to frame their neighbor.

  • YulieAna: If Russia only wanted to protect Ossetians, why did it invade Georgian side and bombed there civilians and destroyed infrastructure AFTER ceasefire. It is ridiculous to explain that Russia bombed military bases to prevent further aggression because Georgia had signed ceasefire aggreement long ago!!!! Georgia stopped fighting 10 days ago!

    Sorry, moral value of your support to Abhazia's and S. Ossetia's independency is ZERO if you don't support also Chechnya's independency.

  • I already explained to you why Russians bombed Georgian military bases - to insure than another aggeression will not take place. They did not bomb civilians indesciminately, people died because that's what people do during a war.

    It is rediculous to assume that a government can be trust whose broke its promises not to start military aggresions against their own people.

  • YulieAna: It is criminal to bomb for "safety's sake" after cease fire. But it is Russia, bloody third world dictatorship and not a civilized country.

    Russia killed civilians because it bombed a country that did not fight against it. IT WAS NOT A WAR.

    It is ridiculous to beliebve anything that a criminal KGB officier says. Officier that has murdered 200.000 own people.

    It happened AFTER CEASE FIRE!!!!

  • It is not criminal to disarm a militarist government who does not live up to their word. It is criminal, however, to use rocket launchers against civilians, what Saakashvili did.

    "Russia killed civilians because it bombed a country that did not fight against it. IT WAS NOT A WAR."

    When a country starts military actions against every agreement, it is war.

    American "peacekeeping" actions in Iraq killed hundreds of thousands of civilians. I don't see you speaking against that.

  • YulieAna: Please give me a break. It is Russia that is militaristic and ultra aggressive country. Of course Georgia needs weapons to protect it. Other world should disarm Russia. Do you agree?

    It was not war against Russia because Georgia was acting in its own territory. And as you remember: it was Russia through Ossetians that started hostilities.

    USA has killed hundreds of thousands of civilians only in your dreams.

  • "USA has killed hundreds of thousands of civilians only in your dreams."

    Get the fuck over yourself. Everyone knows how bloody that war is, 5000 American soldiers are dead and a lot more Iraqi civilians are dead, even American media reports that. Have fun living under a rock.

    Russia did not use rapid military mobilization, Georgia did. If a country starts building an army to such a rapid extent it means it is getting ready for something and it's been proven right a week ago.

  • YulieAna: 4000+ American soldiers are dead. But USA has not killed "hundeds of thousands people". It is just propaganda.

    Of course Russia did not use rapid military mobilization. The troops had been readu already for a long time. Ossetians had got a task to disturb Georgia and make it attack. Georgia had planned everything very badly and was not prepared properly.

  • This conversation is pointless to continue as you are refusing to be impartial and hear all sides of the story. Your mind was already made up and you have no desire to think outside the box.

  • "Sorry, moral value of your support to Abhazia's and S. Ossetia's independency is ZERO if you don't support also Chechnya's independency."

    My moral "value" has nothing to do with it. You're walking on a thin line trying to prove yourself right by refering to something that is completely unrelated to this topic. Why don't we talk about American bombinb of Kosovo and their force split of two regions there? And now they want for S. Ossetia to stay a part of Georgia. You argument makes no sense.

  • Your moral value is connected with this because we are measuring Russia's and Russians moral. That is why Chechnya is essential. It is connected with you. Russia's words about independency for Abhazia and S. Ossetia are EMPTY if Russia murders people in Chechnya and does not give independency to it.

    I have explained many many times why Kosovo is very much different thing. If you are ignorant, I can tell once more.

  • No, Chechnya is not essencial, it is just your bullshit way of trying to frame Russia in the most cynical way.

    What happened in Abhazia and S. Ossetia and Chechnya are 2 different events that have no connection. Your analogies are EMPTY since you're haging on words and don't even know wtf you're talking about.

    If Kosovo is "different" than Chechnya is different. I don't buy hypocricy and your elitist retardist attitude because you have misplaced ideologies about democracy.

  • YulieAna: Checnya is of course, essential. Georgia killed perhaps 20 people in Ossetia. Russia has murdered 200.000 people.

    Chechnya proves that Russia is not acting for "good" reasons.

    Kosovo is, of course, different case because Kosovo got indepency because serbs had really committed a genocide in Kosovo. And before that in Bosnia and Croatia. Georgia has done nothing like that. But Russia is guilty to HUGE genocide in Chechnya.

  • Georgia bombed an entire city, and you're saying out of thousands only 20 can die? Are you that dense? When did Russia kill 200, 000? Prove that.

    Kosovo did not get an official independence, there was a represendating in UN bringing up that issue.

  • YulieAna: As long as no one has given any evidence that Georgia "bombed entire city", this is fruithless. Words of Putin, Medveded and Lavrov are totally zero-valued.

    And even if some bombing happened, somebody must give evidenceabout the number of victims. In a city war, people go to basement and only armed men remain on the ground.

    It is enough to know that many people have been killed in Chechnya. The "official" number is 200.000. It does not make big difference if it's "only" 100.000.

  • "As long as no one has given any evidence that Georgia "bombed entire city", this is fruithless."

    The evidence has been given by the none Western media and the Ossetian witnesses. The entire city is destroyed. They are currently restoring electricity in the city.

  • YulieAna: I need objective witnesses. We must wait until Russia allows them to travel there. AND: It must be investigated what is Russia's share in destruction.

    And we must count the bodies.

    Now I must go to bed. Thanks for discussion. Good night!

  • And by "objective" you mean those who will reject any claims? Wtf do you mean "objective"? Watch the news from there and hear what the people are saying.

    "And we must count the bodies."

    Right......RIP objectivity, intelligence and integrity.