HHO high voltage DC test with ss wall plates #1

[straker1999]

Please excuse my ignorance; what does HHO mean? Thank you.

[PeteDog444]

H20 is split into is separated parts during electrolysis. The remain gas is Hydrogen, Hydrogen, and Oxygen in a gas. H2O becomes HHO.

[straker1999]

@PeteDog444 Thank you for answering my question.

[GBH2o4u]

what happens if you add an electrolyte. I have found a few good, safe ones that the HHO team has shared, #1 baking soda that has reacted with vinagar then put in hot distilled water from the stove, it appeared to work very well, Ive tried it ( earth friendly & safe compaired with the potasium hydroxide...Hope this helps, in places were it frezzes I believe they add 90% isopro-alchol?

[teh770]

Good work. How many windings are in your step up transformer ( Primary and Secondary )?

You realy shoud do a Dry Cell. Thay are easy to work with and you can change the number of netual plates. With high voltage ( Larger than 12 vdc ) you can run more nutral plates and get better production. There are a lot of dry cell designs out there and they have made some great inprovments over my design posted under teh770. The best improvment is to mount the plates in side the mounting bolts.

[AnyThingButWindows]

throw a spoonful of baking soda in there. it will go crazy on you.

[FearTurtles]

Did you add anything to your water? I think if you add baking soda to the water you will get much better HHO production.

After that you might try expanding the spacing some with the higher voltage.

[bartley440]

There is no set frequency. It depends on the plate size, temp, water contaminates, and other things. Also the assumption is you are trying the Stan Meyer method! Then you will have to step charge the plates/tubes (cap) with a PWM with voltage stepping from 1kdc up to 20kvdc pulsed anywhere from 10khz to 45khz. But it will need to be gated (pulse train) cycled on and off so the Hydrogen and oxygen can be release from the sides of the plates due to the high DC potential acting like a magnet.

[bartley440]

Read Stan's patents and watch his video's

[RagingCaveman]

YOUR FREQUENCY IS WRONG.

[immafreemann]

I tried the same thing. I used a 400watt inverter to a brige rectifier and into a 7 plate cell. the cell makes very few bubbles with reverse osmosis water. However running this thru a meyers type cell with 3 tubes(3/4"&1/2"-5.5"tall) and running thru 2 chokes (the large windings of a microwave transformer + other chokes) it cranks bubbles in reverse osmosis. At 12v into the cell it only draws .33 amps.

[ippokratous29]

petdog444, lazzer408 is right!!! Also use 1.5-2 teaspoons of baking soda and then you see the works also the plates need to be in the

+ - + - + N + - + - + try it.

[vb6josh]

What frequency are you using?

I just ordered a PWM tuend to 42.58 KHZ.

[minde4000]

Bullzeye on freq let me know how it works out.

[dreamyear]

you need blocking diode...the current need to flow one way to cell only.

[buggar4466]

Wow, how long would it take to get 1 Gallon of liquid Hydrogen? (5000 L of Hyrdogen gas) and how long will it take for your cell to make the 32MJs of energy to create that 1 Gallon?

Since Hydrogen has 1/4 the energy of gas per Gallon, it would drive a 20mpg car 5 miles. Nice!

[gibsonrockin247]

I don't believe that your figures are correct. 3840L of hho to make one gallon of liquid hho. hydrogen is three times stronger than gasoline in liquid form. but when converted to the 3840L it is ten times strong than gas because all the hho is burnt, and you are only burning 12-18 % of carbon fuel and polluting the atmosphere. which will cost more than the gas to clean it up. If you look at the bob boyce unit it can put out around 100L a minute. 6000L per hour, am I even close?

[Vistal1]

Dont worry this buggar guy doesnt have a clue about Hydrogen .Hydrogen burns Much hotter and has more power per gallon vs gas and burns much cleaner .Combined with gas its much cleaner burn and faster.

[chileyork]

shit man you know a lot,Mjs are mega jouls lol sorry i don't know,but if I built a hydrogen cell that for the truk of the company,good for me,but i know that i have to learn a lot of things,formules conversions,in this video petedogg444 has good instrument...

[lazzer408]

Get that toroid out of there and just use the rectifier. Why step it down with the variac just to step it back up with the toriod transformer? Put the rectifier right on the variac output.

[airc123]

OK now you need to add a inductor in series with the water capactor you made! then you need to get a vaerable generator(to pluse the system you made) so you can find the resinenet frequecy of the water capactor and you will get lots of hho!

[BillTaylor39]

Interested in producing lots of hho.

Bill Taylor

[airc123]

TO Bill the plates acts like a capactor!

but they should be neg,pos,neg,pos,etc. all the way accross In the vidio the voltage will not be the same accros each plate!

[zolosanji69]

by the way, this isn't "zolosanji69" it's actually "eatarose", i'm at my father-in-laws, and his computer was logged in with "zolosanji69".....good luck, keep making hydrogen!!!

[zolosanji69]

distilled water doesn't work good, you will be amazed at how much you will make if you sprinkle a little salt in it !! although, you'll do better with a chemical called potassium hydoxide (koh) stainless steel is a good metal, easier to get then platinum. also try alittle baking soda, you need a conductive electrolite in your distilled water.

[alpha0mega1]

hydrogen comes out of the negetive termenal. try switching the terminals around and the plates need to be made of platinum

[InventorGadget]

ok nice setup,,, but please check out youtube-user "hdemartin" video on this. OK he has a modified Meyer setup, bifilar and all, and a reeally neat way of detecting the right freq so u get resonance. Remember RESONANCE is the key! keep it up!

[kuernodechivo]

I tend to think resonance plays a part as well. This summer I am going to try this with either a sound-card or 555 timer used as tone generator. With the proliferation of boom-boom amps for cars I should be able to get big current. I figure sending the voltage through a zener and a FB-rectifier I should be able double pulsed freqs up to nearly 40KHz. I have seen ultra-sonic amps on ebay that cover well beyond 40K. If I recall most experimenters state the critical freq for H2O around 42-43K.

[SmartScarecrow]

to be honest with you, I am really surprised you got any bubbles at all from 80v and distilled ... would have thought you might have to get 'er up around 5000v or more to get around the dielectric of distilled water ... so you showed me an effect I was expecting ...

[PeteDog444]

My goal is to get the best possible production possible from Distiled water only. I have come to the conclusion that my PWM will not drive my toroid affectively so I will be building a J K flip flop like crazzieg posted in his video and videos to come.

[SmartScarecrow]

Well, good luck with it. Dont want to spoil your fun but I have been here. Found had to go high voltage to do much with distilled. This is why I was a bit surprised to see much of any action at 80v. A touch of e-lyte and she would be frothing but suspect you know that. Seal up as much of the edges on your plates as possible and still get flow and she will be more efficient at low voltage but suspect you already know that too.

[OriginalUncleNemo]

Your right Scarecrow, 80v shouldn't get the water to split using Distilled only. Perhaps the plates were not cleaned completely before and after assembly, that would account for a minute amount of conductivity. PWM is good for reducing your current at lower voltages, but Meyers used it with thousands of volts.

[PeteDog444]

Thousands of volts DC isn't necessarily better. Watch Experimenting with High Voltage video from (m3sca1). Makes me reconsider how much voltage is to much and how much is just right?

[OriginalUncleNemo]

I've watched that video.  My point being this....The whole idea of using a PWM came from Meyer's design, which used very high voltage and no electrolyte, with a very specific design to his cell. To simply apply the method to any cell doesn't make sense. What are we trying to achieve? Maximum gas production at a given temperature with the lowest power consumption possible.....right? I only see practical uses for this, ie. auto milage booster, welding, etc.. Overunity is not going to happen.

[PeteDog444]

As for using the Lawton circuit to drive a toroidal transform to achieve high voltage just doesn't pan out. I know this from experience. I'm working on building a push pull diver for my toroid to get the efficiency of my transformer up because pulled DC DOESN'T WORK, at least I can't get it work. I may just end up using a AC to DC inverter in the end, not sure yet.

[YiuTeub]

You can get more from it if you space your plates with electrical tape or something with comparable thickness. I used some kind of 3m medical translucent tape and I get Bubbles coming off a 3"X1" cell .5 amp and 12 volts, Spacing is the key. Also I found the larger the plate the less it works. For me and my observations the bubbles mostly come off the first 3 inches from which the leads are located. anything past that the production decreases. Just try it and report your findings :).

[Fusion8r]

Hi Pete, nice video...great job!

Keep them coming.

Fusion8r