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  • Precise, honest and logical. Bravo.

  • Similarly, the same letters and words that ordinary people, speaking the language of the Qur’ān, use to articulate expressions and convey meanings and concepts, are used by God to produce the Qur’ ān as a definitive book stating the final and absolute distinction between truth and falsehood. A comparison between man’s work and the work of God is simply not possible; it is a comparison between the image and the reality, between the dead body and the living soul.

  • But using these same el ements, God has created life, the one outstanding secret that remains far beyond man’s intellectual and creative abilities.

    But using these same el ements, God has created life, the one

    outstanding secret that remains far beyond man’s intellectual and creative abilities.

  • Rivals are repeatedly challenged to compose a book similar to it, or only ten sūrahs, or even a single sūrah, of matching quality.No one has ever been able to take up the challenge.

    This is true for all God’s creation. Soil, for example, is made up of elements of

    known properties. The best man has been able to make out of so il is bricks, tiles,

    vessels and structures of various types and uses, which are in some cases very

    sophisticated.

  • The one I like is that these are meant to emphasize the fact that the Qur’ ān is a book composed of the letters of the Arabic langua ge, in the same way as they are used by the Arabs who were the first people a ddressed by this divine revelation. Nevertheless, it is such an unparalleled and transcendent work that no Arab writer, using the same letters and the same language, could ever match its majesty and power.

  • “ Alif, lā m, m ī m.” (Verse 1) This is immediately followed by the statement: “This is the Book, there is no doubt about it, a guidance for the God-fearing.’’ (Verse 2)

    Several surahs in the Qur’ ān begin with a combination of Arabic letters in this way, and interpretations of these abstract openings vary quite widely.

  • I just want from the guy who made this video to wait tell he dies, and then you will get your answer, but be aware bro, there is no time to return to this world.

  • God didn't speak to Muhammad (PBUH) fool. The Angel Gabriel did. Duh

  • Yep.Islam is about accepting the totally unsubstansiated claims of some obscure ME peasant who went on to rape and murder as a means of spreading his made up religion. Mohamed wanted wealth and power and used his invented religion as the means to do so.

  • Allahu Snackbar, infidel!

  • @tapesquare ogaboga, shnugabdudabuhukuldu

  • Islam is for people who can't think for themselves and need other people to tell them how to think. People ask me if Zombies exist. I say look at the religious zealots and you will get your answer.

  • The amount of ppl reacting the same way as a kid that hear for the first time Santa is not real is just amazing. I means, when you don't live in a society that is critical of itself, ppl have no other argument than circular reasoning or even one-way reasoning. The last, I would not even call it reasoning.

  • @MojowidanAK, it's because of rampant over-breeding amongst the poor and ignorant Muslims .... whose numbers are legion.

  • @Turandot29 where the most converted to religion on earth also, yh go make an excuse for that too.....

  • @MojowidanAK, need I repeat the word "ignorant?"

  • @Turandot29 cant handle the truth? also out of the blue you call muslims ignorant? why? isnt that ignorance in itself? so you reply with ignorance making your comment pure fail, whereas my comment had a pure fact? whos the loser here i ask? :)

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  • this Creed (if at all it's a religion some say ISLAM a lethal political ideology) is basically led by a fear.

    those who freely accept the cult..are Mostly Weak-hearted, moody fellows that jump into Islam at their whim but getting out of it requires real courage and chutzpah..

    I don't know how much experience you have had With this but it seems like Islamic allah is Juvenile, Insecure about his supremacy, Jealous, Misogynistic, Sadistic ..Alter Ego of Mohamed.Sincerely speaking it's sickening..

  • religion gives people something to holding onto in a world pulled apart by religion

  • *clap clap clap*

    I congratulate you, sir. Engage in debate against Muslims, disprove their beliefs, be a real humanist and Atheist. These pathetic orientalists "LOL SANDNIGGERZ R IMMIGRATIN INTO THE WEST LETZ TRY TO INSULT THEM HURRR" are the reason why there aren't more Muslims converting to Atheism.

    Thanks again.

  • If I weren't an atheist, I would totally be a deist. It's so much more intellectually honest than theism. I have utmost respect for deists like yourself. Awesome video.

  • @idreamtofflight My take on deism is that it's mostly atheism with poetic flourishes. Most atheists like Sagan, Dawkins and even Hitchens have the same awe of the natural universe. The distinction is seeing the universe as a grand machine vs. something that explains itself.

  • @DeistPaladin Both people of religious and anti/non-religious views are, and will always remain close minded.

  • it wasn't just some guy it was a child of Abraham from the bondwomens lineage.

    IMO,In general the spirit of god comes from oppression.

    when a person is oppressed to a point of despair they are forced to create a belief in something bigger than the oppressor.

    All religion is a form politics.

    This is no way negates the spiritual aspects of evolution the way I see it

  • people just don't get it - nobody's right. nobody's wrong. such dissention exists because everyone has an ego that is out to prove why THEY are right and everyone else is wrong. Until we can all put down our egoes there will never be peace in the world. The battle over whether religion is right or wrong will never end. That is a sad fact.

  • Where is this video series?

  • When the zombie apocalypse happens we will be able to ask all those jerks that wrote the "holy books" if god spoke to them. They won't be able to answer since they'll be zombies, unless of course they are animated by Anita Blake.

  • I keelllll you!!!!

    LOL

  • alleluia!!

    only jesus didn't have anything to do with a cave hahahahahaa!!

    as they always alone ne cave, n wood, i couldn't stop laughing this guy speaking!!! very funny. "SOME GUY CLAIMS GOD SPOKE TO HIM"

  • These prophets are always alone in a cave, woods or wherever because...um..well; that is exactly WHERE God speaks to you. Where else would he? This is the reason for meditation, contemplation, prayer, chants, yoga or what have you. Force the material world out, invite the spiritual in. This doesn't happen easily at a board-meeting, or while you are getting your hair cut or banging your head at a rock concert. I don't see why this is a problem; meditate & you'll understand why.

  • @matrix13thfloor The Tooth Fairy spoke to me privately in my bedroom one night. You don't believe me? Well, my bedroom is exactly where He'd speak to me...where else would He? Ergo Tooth Fairy is real.

  • @C0C0nutFace You have issues with logic, don't you?

    Or do you not understand Ergo?

    I am NOT implying God is real BECAUSE He speaks to people in isolation. I am arguing that that is PRECISELY where God has ALWAYS captured his devotee's attention. That is just the way it is usually. Sometimes there are people around, yet none hear "the voice" save the devotee; but the isolation is the most common atmosphere.

    Why? Because only there are you away from the carnal, secular long enough to listen.

  • @C0C0nutFace Regardless you obviously do not understand what you are reading; so maybe you want to re-read things a few times before you start bad-mouthing them: You'll look less the fool then.

  • @matrix13thfloor Baa baa baaaaa. Baa baa.

  • @matrix13thfloor u make me laugh. silly sheep.

  • @ThorTheOdinSon Explain.

  • @matrix13thfloor I meditated regularly for years and God never once spoken to me, if God does speak to people then why doesn't he speak to all of us in our quieter moments. If he's really all powerful why can't he speak to us regardless of how quiet and contemplative we are? If he does speak to people why does he give such contradictory and vague messages? Clearly YOUR experience is not sufficient evidence for ME to believe, so where does this leave us? On the whole he most likely don't exist!

  • @trifelgeputinage God speaks to you every day. Does he tell you to stop certain things or to initiate other things? Does he plague you with reminders about promises made or what needs change in your life?

    Do you ever experience those strange coincidences (synchronicities) but just shrug them off as chance? Do you follow the omens? Do you ignore them? God's talking is a very natural thing. If you are quiet & serene, confident & sincere, then notice the Introspection & connexion w/ God.

  • @trifelgeputinage If you really were ever meditating for "years" & were sincere about it; did you never once observe a series of odd coincidences about your contemplations? (you were contemplating right?). Did you notice how what you were contemplating was opened up in a song U heard & again on a sign at the supermarket, & perhaps U went to church where the preacher gave the basically the exact same message; only to open a book a few days later to see the same message yet again. That is 1 way.

  • hello my friend.....the only thing to be disliked is people who talk or dislike subjects which they have no knowledge off....it would be better an intelegent for you to rather just ask questions till your aquented with the subject then you may attack...:) becouse from your video i can see you know nothing about islam

  • @traveller889 There's not much more to know is there - old MO claimed God spoke to him. PROVE IT! Where's your evidence? Why do you believe it is true? What reasons can you give that would make me believe - GOOD reasons I mean, not circular arguments about it being written in some book, not your personal experience, but good solid evidence that would convince me to believe that God exists and even more that YOUR God happens to be the true one and that he spoke to someone hundreds of years ago?

  • hello my friend.....the only thing to be disliked is people who talk or dislike subjects which they have no knowledge off....it would be better an intelegent for you to rather just ask questions till your aquented with the subject then you may attack...:) becouse from your video i can see you know nothing about islam

  • @traveller889 most atheist know more about the persons religion than the person belonging to the religion. i can only speak from my experiences in my life tho. i agree tho. this man isn't educated enough on the subject.

  • hello my friend.....the only thing to be disliked is people who talk or dislike subjects which they have no knowledge off....it would be better an intelegent for you to rather just ask questions till your aquented with the subject then you may attack...:) becouse from your video i can see you know nothing about islam

  • true words of wisdom!!!!!

    THANK YOU!!!

  • Are you ever going to take on Mormonism?

  • @shorty962 Just copy what I've said so far about Islam.

    "Some guy claimed God spoke to him".

  • @DeistPaladin you saying " he claimed God spoke to him " prove God didn't speak to him , how you can prove that .

  • @DeistPaladin so f'ing what if he spoke to him , what's your point here , what you trying to get to , the people of his time said the same thing you saying right now , and asked for the same thing you asking , and the answer for them was that they will see what is promised to the believers and greif for letting their earthly life passing them by without believing in what God sent unto them , YOU WILL SEE = is the answer.

  • Sure, illiterate=unable to read and write,having or demonstrating very little or no education..... prophet Mohammad never wrote a word or letter in his life infact it would have been easier for him to convey the message if he could also the quresh who had the most to gain from attcking his message never charged or accused him of being well-read to "devise" the quran infact we even know the very few people during that could. (continued)

  • It doesn't seem to me that you have exhausted all available resources to find out why can anybody possibly believe in Islam. In fact it seems to me that you have not actually consulted any major texts to properly understand Islam. I'm not saying you should not invite Muslims to engage in dialogue and you must complete reading certain books before you do so. But before asking random internet users to prove Islam, it seems tht a more reasonable action wud b to study the religion seriously.

  • watch?v=J44q3fFVoRg you want some proof of Islam?

  • Brother about Your Question (Why God had inspire To Muhammad in The Far Land From Jewish To Solve The Problem of a stray of Jewish and Christian?)

    My Answer is That (I Thing The Jewish had sent to him Ma bey a Thousands of Prophet Yet They still a stray after the Prophet died also they reach to degree of Kill the Prophets even they try to kill Jesus Christ peace be upon him.

    Who You Want the last Prophet among them? the dont appreaciat the Prophets.

    Arab was Best Nation To advocate last prophet

  • Excellent video.

  • As for Jesus never existing.....Mat 27:8 Wherefore that field was called, The field of blood, unto this day....the field of blood was purchased by the Jews with the 30 pieces of silver judas iscariot returned once he realized that YAHUSHUAH (Jesus) was in fact the Son of God. He went and hung himself over it, and the Jews bought the field and called it the field of blood. It's still there today. The last thing the Jews intended to do was leave physical proof of Jesus Christ, But they did.

  • @shadapple, and some vacant lot without any documentation of its provenance is *physical* proof of Jesus?

    Dude, if that flimsy rationale is good enough for you, you really *ought* to revert to islam (or even Mormonism). They both have some risible whoppers for the gullible like you ....

  • Beautiful job. Yes, that's all they have....soooo many stupid people.

  • A few things. Mohammed was illiterate. He was not well educated but came up with some amazing work, the Quran in its rhythmic linguistic form sticking in context is unmatched in any other book. Secondly the Jews and Christians tested Mohammed, they tested him many times and he as far as it appears, got them to swallow their words. He knew things of their faith even they did not. Today who emulates Jesus's teaching in the Bible more than Christians? MUSLIMS because they held revelation sacred.

  • @ramio1983 "Mohammed was illiterate. He was not well educated" and how do you know this for sure yourself? Other than the fact that thats what youve been told. Many forgers also lie that the evidence they have been charged guilty of, are not theirs because it is not their hand writing.

    "but came up with some amazing work, the Quran in its rhythmic linguistic form sticking in context is unmatched in any other book" nonsense, the quran maybe poetic but there are far better literature out there

  • @ramio1983 " Secondly the Jews and Christians tested Mohammed, they tested him many times and he as far as it appears, got them to swallow their words" really? and what are they?

    "He knew things of their faith even they did not." and what are they?

  • Great summation. Thank you.

  • I think people join islam because of those websites, where they tell you what the "real" islam is. I spoke to several muslims and ex-muslims, who tell me that islam has nice scriptures (which they tell you about) and mean scriptures (such as all the anti-jew and anti-christian stuff) that was revealed later, and overrides all the nice stuff. I think this fits in with the theory that some guy (I forgot his name, maybe it was "ali") altered the quran after mohammud died, and burned the originals.

  • wow dude, ur going to hell

  • @mma1025x I am accompaniying him.But then which hell?If its hindu hell its great because according to hinduism hell is the earth.I will be reborn :) Alas its another fairy tale

  • @omariasyed

    Conversion proves nothing

    Christians become jews

    jews become christians

    Muslims turn jewish, jews turn muslim

    Humans easily get sucked into lies without reviewing 100% of the claim

  • umm ok so you're saying the thousands of people world wide converting to islam are stupid? all the white american priests who knew the bible in and out are stupid for converting? you don't think that there has to be some sort of truth or enlightenment in what the Quran has to say? I mean people focus on the most controversial topics and blow them out of proportion, but when the bible contradicts itself its alright..

  • @OmairASyed I'm not sure where you're getting your information on conversions to Islam. Let's just say what I said in the video, I don't get it. Some guy claimed God spoke to him? That's it? That's all you got?

  • @DeistPaladin I'm sorry to say, but I know many people who have converted to Islam and many of those people were Christian Priests. If I may ask where did you get your information? Go to any news channel or any website and you'll see that Islam is the fastest growing religion. How about watching videos for Islam on youtube instead of continuing adverse videos and comments. And if you didn't get anything out of Quran then maybe you need to consult with someone and discuss it to better understand.

  • @OmairASyed So what was their reason for converting? Again, I don't see anything other than "some guy claimed God spoke to him".

    As for the Quran, I am reading it. The tiresome ravings of a madman.

  • @DeistPaladin well you see I personally cannot say because everyone has different reasons and I myself was born a muslim so I unfortunately was not able to see first hand how it felt finding a religion where one could see truth and clarity. I also understand that you are not understanding it so I really feel that you should maybe talk to some scholars or visit WhyIslam.org and clarify your misconceptions. Im not saying that you should convert just learn more about the religion.

  • @OmairASyed Since it's true and clear, perhaps you can clear it up for me. Because I sincerely don't get it.

    Did I mention that all I see is "some guy claimed God spoke to him"?

  • @DeistPaladin ok i understand what you are saying but by repeating your statement of a guy claiming to have spoken to God is not going to help in understanding. There is proof and unfortunately I am not the right person to explain it all to you so that is why i referred the website to you. You will have most if not all questions answered through there. You would need to be sincere in wanting to learn more or else nothing will help

  • @DeistPaladin, geesh, don't you get it that OmairASyed "understand[s] that you are not understanding [the Qur'an]" ?? You don't understand it the way he understands it; therefore, you don't understand it. How you can argue with a tautology like that? ;)

  • @OmairASyed

    Does your God make mistakes?

  • @OmairASyed Does your God make mistakes?

  • @OmairASyed Maybe it's you who has got it wrong? How do you know you have got it right? You don't. You simply believe, which is simple mindedness. Every religious person thinks they have got it right. You can't all be right. But you CAN all be wrong and you are. Like the man says: "prove it"

  • @OmairASyed You were not born a Muslim... You have a brain... Use it and you will free it...

  • @OmairASyed

    I'd like to find out about these white american priests converting to islam.

    I have seen the youtube videos of African islamic clerics converting to christianity.

    

  • @mad8london247, yes, I, too, would like to hear about all those "many Christian priests" who have reverted to Islam whom Omair knows.

    I bet he could count them using all the fingers on the right hand of a convicted thief in Saudi Arabia .....

  • @DeistPaladin

    If you were actually "reading" the Quran you would have realized that the book is written entirely in the 3rd person perspective. But then again you read the book.

  • @OmairASyed I get tired of hearing Islam is the fastest growing religion. It isn't. What you people do not admit is that thousands of Muslims intellectually leave Islam everyday because they see and understand how ridiculous it is, since it does not reflect reality. They leave it intellectually and pay lip service to it and say nothing because of the penalties of apostasy in the most ridiculous religious cult on the face of the planet. Islam is an insult to the universe.

  • @OmairASyed

    I don't think "understanding the qur'an" has anything to do with the subject. Understanding that book is besides the point. The point is why should we even open that book?

  • @OmairASyed

    Most people in the Muslim Culture are afraid to even challenge the Quran b/c of the wacked out ppl you have in your religious groups. They will disown you and treat you like an outcast to believe in anything else.

    Quran brings fear to your family. "Remember some guy that claims god spoke to him"

    Jesus never killed ppl, hurt woman, or destroyed lived. Muhammad was violent and evil.

  • @DeistPaladin prophet Mohammad was unlettered how could he have wriiten the quran ?

  • @0ptimusbibIe You can prove that he was illiterate, right? 

  • @DeistPaladin As for education he obtained his masters in linguistics and history from desert university, lol joke ... prophet Mohammad (pbuh) was a Bedouin neither did he ever write a word nor was he was taught to read he didnt even travel outside the Arabian peninsula and get acquainted with any other civilization ...You can prove that he was literate, right?

  • @0ptimusbibIe The burden of proof isn't on me.

    Christians will use similar reasoning with their stories about the early Christians as proof of their claims. They're using folklore to prove mythology. It's unconvincing to anyone outside the Christian faith. Same thing with your use of folklore regarding Muhammad.

  • @0ptimusbibIe, wait a tick!! You say Mohammed never traveled outside the Arabian Peninsula? I thought he flew to the mosque in Jerusalem on the back on a winged steed!

    *snort*

  • @DeistPaladin Find me one single document, or let alone word written by the Prophet. The burden of proof IS on you, because it's generally accepted by the masses that he was illiterate, just as the burden of proof had been on all great scientists who challenged the majority's accustomed beliefs. Now, with that said, you'll probably just back out, and say "NOPE DONT GOTTA PROVE NOTHIN," to me, that shows you're just spewing shit, or you are lazy. Peace unto you.

  • @OmairASyed Who cares how many people convert, even if your figures are true (and I doubt they are) - truth is not a popularity contest.

    How many are converted by the sword, or under duress? How many are converted because of their stupidity and gullibility?

    Christianity is nonsense. So is Islam.

    Do you believe that Krishna is God? Zoroaster? Zeus?

    Why not? When you answer that question, you will know why people don't believe Mohammed was anything other than a madman.

  • @OmairASyed People may be converting to Islam, but the fact remains, as in the video, that Muslims simply cannot prove, like most religious people, that their supposedly divinely revealed book is actually true.

  • What I dont get is how christianity makes sense. How is there proof for Christianity? Why dont you have a video called christianity in a nutshell? You sir are just biased.. you ask questions that have no answers. Muslims, Jews, Christians, and all other religions have something called "faith." Im sure you're aware of the concept. That is how and why people convert to Islam.. grow up and deal with it. Its their right to chose their path.

  • @balochl Actually, I have done such a video. Christianity in a nutshell is the belief that God sent himself down to earth to sacrifice himself to himself because bleeding on a cross was the only way he could convince himself to forgive us all for being such sinful beings which we are because an ancestor of ours who was made from a rib ate a magic fruit after speaking to a talking snake.

  • You debunking ISLAM amid a GLOBAL FINANCIAL AND MONETARY MELTING triggered and stirred by some elite who you re not seeming to debunk

    You denounced PEDOPHILIA ,. I give you a book written by a US senator JOHN DECAMP where he reveals that THE US PEDOPHILIA RING IS OPERATED ON HIGH LEVEL and he ACCUSES Reagan, the Bushed, Warren Buffet, among a lot (THE FRANKLIN COVER UP)

  • Well, try to read, if you got a chance the Maurice Bucaille book : The Bible, the science and the Coran. (La Bible la Science et le Coran)-

  • The Quran describes the above mentioned gravitational force as ‘invisible pillars’: “God it is Who raised up the heavenly bodies to invisible pillars .....” (13:2).

  • In conveying this scientific truth, the Quran has used an expression that is comprehensible for the men of all ages. Are these ‘unseen pillars’, which prevent the planets from colliding with each other or falling, anything other than the mysterious and invisible force of universal gravity, a law to which the Creator of the universe has subjected all of the heavenly bodies?

  • Dont think that you re an ''inovator''. Rebelion against ''spirituality'' was expressed first by the Babylonian, they were the 1st fonder of what is commonly called ''Humanism''. Where all the definition of existence have to put Human parameter first and using it as unit measurment and almost to deity-

  • سَنَفۡرُغُ لَكُمۡ أَيُّهَ ٱلثَّقَلَانِ

    We shall dispose of you, O ye two dependents (weightable )(man and jinn).

    the arabic Word ٱلثقلان THAQALAN means weightable, something who is submitted to attraction, sepaking about the human and the Djins (Spirit made of LIGHT). Studies on the black hole found that Photons are submited and and bend over ATTRACTION.

  • @alfredomafioso

    Tafsir al-Jalalayn

    We will attend to you, We shall turn to reckon with you, O you two heavy ones!, mankind and jinn.

  • Anyway, being zealot is not my cup of tea.And if you dont believe in anything , good for you. Now why and how can you ''believe'' that you are detaining the ultimate TRUTH

    You re asking Muslims to drop their belief,. What do you offer them then?

    The collapsing materialistic world made of fiat paper issued created out of thin air by Zionist Banks?

  • U make absolutely no point !

    What didnt attract you shouldnt attract others?

    People during ages where looking at apples falling on the ground, so according to you when Newton see in that, gravity, it means that he was wrong.

    Do you wake up every morning to go to work?

  • @alfredomafioso We can prove gravity through repeatable tests. How about Muhammad's claims?

    I repeat, all you've got is "some guy claimed God spoke to him."

    Have you got anything else?

  • @DeistPaladin proof ! if you ask proof what do you need faith for ?

    You talk about gravity , well it is indeed in the Qoran....

  • @DeistPaladin your problem is you re not seeking or having any hunger for anything. You come in a subject where you see yourself higher than others. Only because you put on a high level your materialistic definition of your existence and you have no bound to any spiritual level.

  • @DeistPaladin there! I got something else! Mohamed SAS was illiterate and little had you know about Qoran, you would know that the level of this text has never been match or challenged---

  • @DeistPaladin you still repeat the same comical, just show me how you gonna debunk and disprove the quran lol

  • So the world has to follow your ''unbelief''-

    Let the people believe in what they want!

    You are attacking and blaming what yourself are doing! pushing people to believe in your version of truth!

  • I love it.

  • The Bible is one of the most shocking, inhumane and depraved books you can find on the shelves of a bookshop. It should come as no surprse, then, that the Koran (which plagiarises left right and centre from the Bible) is equally as absurd.

  • @psandbergnz (laughs) Oh, this is just precious. You obviously know nothing about either book but continue to analyze them in your unabashed ignorance anyway. I am sure people are just run amuck with the epiphany you have unleashed within them based solely upon your ignorant uneducated opinion....running to denounce their own ideologies only to replace them with yours.

  • Well your vid has been up for a month now and no responses beyond one eyed assertions or attacks on OTHER religions.

    mrahman1992 is not game to putforward anything but some websites. Islam has no case and no God and I wont submitt to Islam either.

    There is some hope for Benghazison, sceptical about Hadith, why is he not sceptical about the Quaran and why is mdr22315 not skeptical of the Bible? They are skeptical about each others texts, but not their own.

  • @kommissarw your quote "skeptical about Hadith" i am not skeptical about too many Hadeeths, i don't recognize those Hadeths at all because those Hadeeths are based on the garbage of the so-called Bible. your Quote " why he is not skeptical about the Quran" because i know for sure that Quran is the true word of God.i can see logic and reason that the Quran came from God, not like the garbage of the so-called BibleS. that's it, sallam

  • @Benghazison Quaran got logic and reason in it? Does everything that has logic and reason come from God?

    How about Star Trek? back in the 60s they showed communicators before moble phones were even thought of! The prediciton was fueled by either R&L or Prophecy.

    Rejecting some hadeeth based on Bible? Ah I get where u comming from now. I'd put it as you reject the Christian New Testament. I agree with you there. According to NT- Jesus="Son of Man" or "Son of God"

  • @Benghazison (laughed out loud) Hadiths based upon the Bible... Oh, man (still laughing) The sheer stupidity of it all. You don't even know what the Hadiths are..(still laughing) I would like you to tell any Mullah, Imam, or your run of the mill *real* Muslim the Hadiths are based upon the Bible.

    Nope...you just can't make this shit up~! (This laugh should last me for quite some time).

  • @mdr22315 well you don't know those Hadeeths do you?LOL all those lie from the Hadeeths are based on the garbage of the so-called Bibles LOL do you really wanna know what Hadeeths i am talking about? i can post them here to you and you go compare those hadeeths to the garbage of the so-called bibles LOL then tell me what do you think LOL

  • @Benghazison said:"well you don't know those Hadeeths do you?"

    OMG...and I don't mean this in a negative way. Yes, I have had to study these pieces of garbage as to understand the Quran and what it was saying. You, not reading the Quran just thinking it allows you to have sex with whomever without impunity wouldn't understand. (laughs) Listen up you moron...the Hadiths are to explain the QURAN...they have absolutely nothing to do with the Bible you dumb ass. I am so disgusted with stupidity~!

  • @mdr22315 Quran never (allows you to have sex with whomever without impunity ) that's how the damn hadeeths try to say LOL now let me tell you this, there's a hadeeth stating that "married man or woman who commit adultery should be stoned to death" go read your third-grade bible and tell me about stoning there LOL and there's hadeeth says women were created from twisted rib LOL too many hadeeths are based on your so-called Bibles

  • @Benghazison Dumb ass..Quran 4:24>forbidden to you are, wedded women, except what your right hands own, of captured [slave] girls, whom you may have sexual intercourse with, even if they should have spouses, Lawful for you is that you seek, women, using your wealth, by way of a dowry or a price, and have had sexual intercourse with, give them their wages, you are not at fault in agreeing together, you and they, after the obligation, is waived,..

    Legal prostitution called Mut'a (temporary) wife

  • @mdr22315 it says ( Right Hand Possess) you marry them..did it say captured [slave] girls? the word slaves mentioned in the Quran to be freed not to have sex with LOL you such liar LOL where did it say in the Quran that you can marry captured [slave] girls? 4:42 it says Right Hand Possess not slave girls! you dig it. you dig it? lol

  • @mdr22315 (captured [slave] girls) loooooooooool where did you find these phrase in the Quran? i have never seen it before in the Quran LOL even though i memorize almost the whole Quran LOL when you find me the verses stating that (you can captured [slave] girls, whom you may have sexual intercourse with, even if they should have spouses) LOL LOL LOL you know what ,it must be your goat have ate those verses too LOOOOL your are great joke lol

  • @mdr22315 the punishment for those who commit adultery according to the Quran is 100 lashes by a whip in public after it's been proved by 4 witness. there's no stoning in the Quran at all, where did Hadeeth found that stoning punishment? easy it's from the garbage of the so-called Bible yahoooo. as long as you believe in the so-called bible that mean your brain is too slow and limited LOL any one accept the so-called Bible means he is a big time (stupid) lol

  • @Benghazison A goat ate 215 verses of the Quran while they were under Aishas pillow after Mohammad died. These were the stoning verses. Muslims still stone men and women for adultery even though those verses are missing because they once existed. Your ignorance is only surpassed by your stupidity.

  • @mdr22315 liar liar liar LOL you see how stupid you are? where in the Quran it says stoning those who committed adultery to death? LOL  you are nothing but a lair THE GOAT ATE 215 VERSES OF THE (QURAN0 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO­OOOL yo are a great comedian lol please go enjoy your damn,ruthless, sex maniac and the holy cake shit book the so-called bible. looooool

  • @mdr22315 A GOAT ATE 215 VERSES LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL WAS IT A MALE OR FEMALE GOAT WHAT COLOR WAS IT ? LOL LOL LOL MAN YOU MADE LAUGH LIKE HELL LOL LOL MR GOAT DON'T LET YOUR GOAT EAT YOUR GARBAGE OF THE S0-CALLED BIBLE AND ITS BARLEY CAKE WITH HUMAN SHIT. SMILE YOU FUNNY BOY LOL

  • cont... check out muhaddithdotorg's channel, or islam-guide (google)

  • @mrahman1992 Check out the Quran in English by googling:

    Tafsir al-Jalalayn

    Check out the Hadiths and Quran for yourself by googling:

    USC Center for Muslim-Jewish Engagement

    I suggest everyone READ the texts for themselves as Muslims are allowed and told to lie: [Quran3:28]

    On Tafsir al-Jalalayn go to the left and you will see Tafsir al-Jalalayn with a yellow star. Click that to enter. The sura will be the first number. The verse will be the second. At the USC site click on religious texts.

  • Muhammad had scribes write his revelations down for him. One scribe was `Abdullah Ibn Sa'd Ibn Abi Sarh. As Sarh wrote these revelations down, he frequently made suggestions on improving their wording. Muhammad often agreed and allowed the changes to be made. Eventually, Sarh left Islam, knowing IT COULD NOT BE FROM GOD IF A MERE SCRIBE WERE ALLOWED TO CHANGE GOD"S WORD. Later, after the conquest of Mecca, Muhammad ordered Sarh's death.

    google:

    Sources of the Qur'an

  • Mo attacked several groups of people around him. Mo attacked Khaibar. After Khaibar was conquered, the Jews were either enslaved, executed, or allowed to live there provided they gave the Muslims one half of all they produced. One of Mo's most brutal acts involved a prisoner named Kinana. Kinana was one of the leaders of Khaibar. Mo wanted him to reveal where some buried treasure was hidden. Kinana refused. Mo had him tortured to the point of death, then had him beheaded.

  • @Benghazison Who is 'we', you are the only one saying it. Do you say it for every mythical figure or just these two? e.g. Zeus, Poseiden, Horus....

  • @versanil What are you talking about? explain plz

  • @Benghazison you use the expression PBUH when referring to Jesus and Mohammed and I was wondering if this was exclusive to these two mythical figures, or do you extend it to other mythical figures e.g. Zeus, Poseiden, Horus.... maybe even real people. Is there also a peace be upon HER? I am just curious about the PBUH protocol because I never use it.

  • @versanil  (Mythical) LOL to you they are mythical but to me no they are not, there's PBUH Mary mother of Jesus' pbuh ,pbu Her for Mary. you don't need to use it, you are an atheist who doesn't need to use it.

  • @Benghazison OK, but what about Joseph Smith, does he warrant a PBUH? Also, do any of your relatives get the PBUH treatment? A what point does the person go from being an ordinary Joe to being somebody you have to PBUH?

    There is nothing stopping the atheist using PBUH but I must admit it does seem like a completely redundant statement and it would get quite tiring if you were going to spend a lot of time referring to these mythical figures in conversation.

  • @versanil well the so-called Joesph Smith is not existed at all, he is absolutely nothing to me. you're such comedian why would a relative have PBUH? LOL it ain't tiring at all but it must be very tiring to someone like yourself due to some personal reasons other wise you wouldn't mention it was tiring.finally try to help your fellow atheists to answer my questions, the lads are struggling and it's really tiring to be cornered thinking about an answer lol

  • @Benghazison But Smith was the prophet of the Mormon religion! Surely he deserves a PBUH? I think in this case I will use the PBUH honorific.

    It has been interesting to unwind the PBUH protocol. I surmise we only apply the PBUH in the case of the Abrhamic religions and generally to the prophets of these religions, but not to the Abrahamic spin off's, such as Mormon or for relatives (which does seem a bit stingy, since they actually existed and probably helped you in your life much more than JC)

  • @versanil  good point ! what's the Abrahamic religion? you have no clue what's that is?please don't you ever dare to mention that the so-called Judaism and Christianity are Abrahamic religions? because they are not, so forget about Abraham PBUH this one for you in lol and the Abarahamic. the so-called Joesph Smith is nothing to me but you can ask Mitt Romney about him, as Romney is big time the so-called Mormon LOL

  • @versanil, I think it's a great idea to use the "PBUH" honorific for Joseph Smith. Mormons will be as pleased as punch except they will think it stands for one of their primary food groups: "Peanut Butter Upon Him!"

  • @DoubtingDogma No one would answer my question,John and all his atheistic disciples are on the run now.

  • Firstly Muhammad was illiterate and uneducated which makes it virtually impossible that he spontaneously proclaimed the greatest piece of arabic literature history has ever seen.2ndly the Quran mentions several scientific facts recently discovered through modern technology which Muhammad could not have known.(Islam-guide google, or MuhaddithDotOrg's youtube channel). 3rdly, Muhammad (pbuh) an orphan from an arabian tribe also happened to become the no1 most influential person in history

  • @mrahman1992 Islam is a caustic blend of regurgitated paganism and twisted Bible stories. Muhammad, its lone prophet, conceived his religion solely to satiate his lust for power, sex, and money. He was a terrorist. The Islamic deity migrates from a nameless Lord to Ar-Rahman and then to Allah. The spirit starts off demonic, personally involving itself in hellish torments. Then he journeys from foolish to fierce, moving from uninspired tongue-lashings to all-out brutality.

  • @mdr Firstly Muhammad pbuh eliminated all ignorant pagan beleifs from arabia and strongly opposed their ridiculous practices. Secondly, pagan laws at the time permitted sexual atrocities and abuse of women, so Muhammad would have no reason to create a new system for lust. Thirdly, Ar Rahman is a CHARACTERSTIC of Allah, it means the most gracioius. You have only demonstrated your own ignorance about Islam. (ps Your attempt to use sophisticated vocab doesnt make you sound intelligent either)

  • @mrahman1992 Said:"Firstly Muhammad pbuh eliminated all ignorant pagan beleifs from arabia and strongly opposed their ridiculous practices."

    Muslims will claim rituals such as the Hajj were practiced by Abraham..etc.. as Muslims perform them today, this is nothing but pure myth, totally unsupported by history. In fact, the Hajj is documented in history as being solely of Arab pagan origin. The history of the Hajj has ONLY a pagan history before Muhammad, this has been proven through Archeology.

  • @mrahman1992 Said:"Secondly, pagan laws at the time permitted sexual atrocities and abuse of women, so Muhammad would have no reason to create a new system for lust."

    Before Islam, pagan Arab women generally enjoyed a respectable status in society, Khadija the first wife of the prophet of Islam, had the right to engage in business and choose or dismiss husbands & participated in public worship. Pre-Islamic Arab society did not have more than one wife & women were equal in treatment & status.

  • @mrahman1992 Said:"Thirdly, Ar Rahman is a CHARACTERSTIC of Allah, it means the most gracioius."

    In pagan Mecca, magicians, soothsayers, sorcerers, & the Satan worshipers used to vow by Allah. Muhammad, at first rejected making Allah his gods (ilah) name. The people of Yemen used to worship another deity whose name was Ar-Rahman. Muhammad, for a while, adopted the name Ar-Rahman for God (ilah) in place of Allah. The Meccans did not recognize this name so he changed it back ti Allah(documented)

  • @mrahman1992 Said:"You have only demonstrated your own ignorance about Islam. "

    (laughs) I have demonstrated with EVIDENCE your ignorance of Islam as all this has been recorded in history and the SCIENCE of Archeology... Science does not lie as it hasn't any bias like people do. The facts have been proven and shown that Allah was a pagan moon god of the pagan Arabs. Ramadan & the Hajj are also rituals of pagans.

    P.S. I think it you that looks utterly stupid in the face of these facts!

  • @mdr22315 ...and Christianity is the amalgamation of pagan and Jewish beliefs.

  • @DeistPaladin There is nothing called Christianity and there's no Jewish beliefs, the so-called Judaism and Christianity are myths. and paganism is a myth too. try to prove to me what was the Christianity prior to Jesus's (death) on the cross, what was his religion during his life time? and what was the (Judaism) prior to Judah the 4th son of Jacob? if the so-called BibleS give you an answer, promise i will convert to your methodological deism.

  • @Benghazison Genesis 17:7 I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you. 8 The whole land of Canaan, where you are now an alien, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God." Genesis 32:28 "Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,...

    Dumb Muslim

  • @mdr22315 that's the garbage of the so-called Bible LOL enjoy it and enjoy the rest of the pornographic stories in the so-called Bible, you should know that i don't recognize even one single word form the Bible garbage LOL so please don't tell me about the cake made of human poop and drinking urine LOL or what did (Lot) did with daughters LOL or what (Noah) did with his sons. please don't tell me about the so-called Bible i know that book well, lol

  • @Benghazison (laughs) The Bible is the Word of God and there is nothing you can do about it Muslim. What is funny is that you couldn't even be a Muslim without it idiot.

    Many critics tried to find errors and contradictions in the Holy Bible but failed. The following works respond to their allegations:

    1. N. Geisler and T. Howe, When Critics Ask (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books, 1992).

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  • @mdr22315 continued...

    2. W. Kaiser Jr., P. Davids, F. Bruce and M. Brauch, Hard Sayings of the Bible (Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press, 1996).

    3. G. Archer, Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 1982).

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  • @mdr22315 continued...

    In fact, some of the best legal minds in history have scrutinized the Holy Bible. The New Testament was carefully examined by legal experts such as Simon Greenleaf of Harvard who came to the conclusion that: “copies which had been as universally received and acted upon as the four Gospels, would have been received in evidence in any court of justice, without the slightest hesitation” (N. Geisler and A. Saleeb, Answering Islam [Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books, 2002], p. 231).

  • @mdr22315 The Gospels would be evidence that would be accepted in a court of law?